Zuffa Boxing Shockwaves: Shakur Stevenson’s Zuffa Deal Raises Red Flags

We get back on the mic with gym stories, a blown interview, and a boxing news week that turns into a full-on debate about money, matchmaking, and what fans are being sold. We argue through Shakur Stevenson signing with Zuffa, the messy logic behind Rolly Romero vs Teofimo Lopez, and why streaming deals still make boxing harder to watch than it should be. 

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Transcript

Back In The Gym And Chaos

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Yo, what up, what up, what up? It is the Spar Inboxing Podcast. Willie and Puma coming at you. And our second show in July. We are we are doing our thing to stay more consistent, and here we are.

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We back, man.

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Willie is like he's like my Adrian Broner right now, man. He's back in the gym. We worked out today, right? A B W A B W A B W.

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Uh, yeah, we're back in there, man. Yeah. Back in there.

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Willie was a little shocked. It gets a lot harder when you stop as you get older. Welcome to my world.

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We almost died the other day.

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Yeah, I thought Willie was about to have a heart attack.

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It was heavy, man. Yeah. I was smoking hookah for like a week before that.

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Oh, I hate hookah. So overrated. What up, though? What's up, Willie? What's going on?

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Yeah, nothing much, man. We here, man. We made it back. We back again, y'all. We're trying to be consistent out here.

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Uh we had an interview lined up. We fucked that up.

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Oh, yeah.

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Uh that was we won't name names, but uh he now ghosted us. Uh left me on red. Felt like I was in sixth grade again, trying to get my first kiss. Damn, that sucks. Oh well. That's what we get.

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Ruin your channel.

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Till the next time. Till the next time.

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And your boy might have another fight. That uh his trainer.

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I mean, he's yeah, I was supposed to get our shocky foster's trainer, but um, we had to reschedule like two, three times because life, we are working men. Well, he has kids and shit.

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Um boy, don't blame me. You was at the beach. I just woke up late. I took a nap.

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I texted really, oh, we good for tonight. And then that's when you was like, uh can't do a cricket sound, cricket sound.

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Yeah, okay. We need a soundboard.

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Uh yeah. Anyway, um a little bit of a slower show, nothing really fight-wise, maybe one fight to preview. But uh, there was some drama in

Shakur Signs With Zuffa Debate

SPEAKER_04 2:00

boxing, man. It was another I like the drama episodes, though. We got a little Shakur signing signed with Zufa. We're gonna talk about that. Uh, we had Rolly Romero vs. Tio was announced. I don't know if we talked about that last time, but we'll talk about it again. So the one fight that we are gonna preview is Diego Pacheco versus Emmanuel Well, spelled with a W. Emanu W-E-L Alim. Nothing really to touch on there. It's just kind of like a I don't know, fill-in, fill-in fight. Um, our boy Price Taylor won, but on July 18th, Ginny Fuchsius, not Fuchs, that's what I call it, is coming back for the real belt. Just want to give a shout out to her. That's our homie. Um, she's fighting for the WBC title. Unfortunately, I can't go because, like I said, we work.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

You tried about like five times to go see her.

SPEAKER_04 2:47

Yeah, I went once and got canceled. Yo, never plan your your fight, flight trips until uh a day before.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

Don't plan your next fight without your next fight.

SPEAKER_04 2:57

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever I say. But um, yeah. Don't plan your next fight before your next fight.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

Flight, right? Flight without fighting. Well, now it'd be flight. Don't plan your next flight as a fan.

SPEAKER_04 3:12

Don't plan your next fight, flight before the fight. I don't know what the flock said. Uh but yeah, that that's it. Um did we have any boxing this weekend? Oh, yeah, Price Taylor. Price Taylor did his thing. Uh Connor McChicken Nugget. This is not boxing, but that was that was like yo, UFC fans were like shocked about that. Connor McGregor got all this hype. Yeah, and he did he does promote very well. There was a lot of I I watched it, I tuned in.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

You watched it?

SPEAKER_04 3:40

Well, I watched the minute and then he blew his knee out. But like, like UFC fans were shocked, and I'm like, yo, welcome to boxing, dude. This happens all the time. A lot of hype, a lot of uh hoopla for what either a cancelled fight or something weird happens, and oh yeah, especially the people not making waves, yeah. Like like last minute. Oh man, he's not fighting. Yo, but Connor Connor McGregor could he could sell, man. Uh like he's shit talking. Yeah, he's a shit talk extraordinaire.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

That one traveled that uh his fight traveled to the masses, like yeah, to everybody sold out right away. He's uh yeah, he's a marketing genius, uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 4:21

Definitely. But um, with that, I you saw the other Irish guy.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

It was another Irish guy.

SPEAKER_04 4:26

Oh, he's not Irish. I know you're talking about Irish Patty Pimblet.

SPEAKER_01 4:29

Yeah, he like redheaded, yeah, like long blonde. Yeah, I can take over. I'm the face of boxing. I mean, uh not boxing. That shit was crazy.

SPEAKER_04 4:38

Kind of is now that guy is, but that kind of shows you like nice, yeah. Yeah, I guess he's decent at UFC. I don't really watch it like that, but it shows you the state of UFC, where like your your main guy, right? Um, what's his name? Dana White is promoting the fight and he's showing all boxers, like yeah, in the week. And then he's wearing the zoo for boxing shirt.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

So that kind of lets you they they fucked up Shakur.

SPEAKER_04 4:59

And then and then, like, think though, think they call Shakur Jalen Williams. Yeah, on the fight, they called him the rope.

SPEAKER_01 5:04

Oh, Jalen Williams out of everybody, but think about that.

SPEAKER_04 5:08

So they're scoring so now he's doing zoo for boxing. Shakur signs with zoo for boxing, he's promoting that almost more like kind of McGregor promote himself. You don't really need to do much, but he's kind of like it kind of looked like a money grab. Like, oh, let's just let's just pad our retirement and get out of here.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Yo, because that's what it felt like. What if the whole master plan for Dana was to get McGregor to do this fight, right?

SPEAKER_04 5:32

Get the hype and then sound short at the same time to put Shakur in the seat so everybody can see that or or open the door for McGregor to get into Zufa boxing because everybody wants to fight him, every boxer wants to fight him.

SPEAKER_01 5:45

Oh, that's money, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:46

So who knows? But it's just funny to see he's he's kind of one it appears that he's got one foot out the door. Um, that is Dana White with the UFC stuff, as it's been stagnant now for a few years. McGregor is the draw, he's the money, clearly.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

Yeah, but and uh everybody loved UFC, man. That's yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:04

But but what new fans did they gain?

SPEAKER_01 6:07

My dad, yo, bro, he was in there talking about it. Yo, they was fighting, man. They was fighting.

SPEAKER_04 6:14

I go, yeah, McGregor and them. Oh, like the fights, yeah, yeah. No, no, and I and I love the sport. I'm not like I'm not one of those guys that like, oh no, you can't like boxing and UFC. No, it's awesome to like both. I just hate when they compare like it's comparing apples to what's the slogan? Oranges, yeah, oranges, but they're both fruit. So I don't know. Yeah, I guess it's both combat sports, so that makes sense. Yeah, apples to oranges. That's the saying, right?

SPEAKER_01 6:41

I guess so.

SPEAKER_04 6:42

But yeah, so so Shakur Stevenson signed with Zufa boxing. Um, well, uh how much you get paid?

SPEAKER_01 6:50

How much?

SPEAKER_04 6:51

I didn't say I didn't see the numbers, I didn't see the numbers, but I mean Shakur gets the most significant win of his career versus Tiafimo. And then well, here we have it. He gets an immediate signing. But I have an I have a bit of an issue. Um he keeps saying, Shakur, that he he signed with them to make the biggest and best fights. The biggest and best fights, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:16

Who on Zufa Zufa's kind of bottlenecked to their own own little promotion, and the best fights are not gonna be made there.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

Um what I think is I think he believes that it's under uh Turkey, so it's like everything is really under Turkey, you know what he believes and that the money is still gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 7:37

You know what he believes in paychecks, and I'm not mad at him for it. No, he's got paid, he got paid, but that's my gripe. Like, stop saying that. Like looking at us like we're stupid. Stop saying that you're there for the best fights to for the best fights. You just got paid a banging paycheck. We don't know what it is, but Dana White said it, said it in the press conferen in the post-press conference from the McGregor fight. I just paid this guy a boatload of money, and and they messed up his name. So, like, don't come at us like we're stupid.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

I feel like that's all marketing though. Nah, I don't know. No, but I know he got he really got a bag, but all that.

SPEAKER_04 8:11

If you want to fight the best, you don't sign with Zufa right now.

SPEAKER_01 8:13

Messed up the name on purpose, probably. Yo, this I think yo, they be slick. I don't know. I don't know, man. They always mess with somebody in the uh though. But like all the black guys they messed up Crawford once.

SPEAKER_04 8:25

Crawford, but but listen, you don't like so I put I compiled a list. I had a little list compiled here. Look, look, I'll show you it. So I compiled a list of everyone signed with Zufa, uh, from lightweight to 147, all their fighters that they have, right? So if you signed with Zufa to fight the best, yeah, it's no best. I'm gonna there's a lot of 135 pounders that are really good. The the the name that sticks out is Jose Valenzuela Reyes. Yeah, um, he's he's decent, but Shakur is Shakur even fighting at 135?

SPEAKER_01 8:56

No, he's 140.

SPEAKER_04 8:58

And then no, no, he he might he's still he's saying well, maybe uh he said that maybe Mark uh Maxo Maxo, he's a tough guy, but Shakur waxes him. Um Edwin de los Santos, we know what happened already with that. Shakur waxed him. So if you're fighting the best, and then and then it gets him, it gets even better.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Ramro, it gets even better.

SPEAKER_04 9:18

Let's go to 140 pounders, right? You know how many 140 pounders they have?

SPEAKER_01 9:25

You know how many 140 pounders do they did they sound Russell?

SPEAKER_04 9:29

I don't think so. Oh, they have three to my what I could look up. Okay, who Brandon Lee is the only name. Oh, three, including Shakur. So Brandon Lee, and I don't know if you remember, he was on PBC back in the day, he was decent, there's a lot of come up, but then he just vanished off the face of the earth. So there's three Brandon Lee, Brian Gorham, and Shakur. Those are the three at 140. So if you're at 140 and you signed with Zufa to fight the best, uh to make the best fights possible, uh, stop lying to us, bro. We know you signed for the money. Just say that, and that's okay. Just say that. You signed for the money, you got a big paycheck. I'm happy for you, bro.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

They gotta be fighting something. He gotta be fighting something.

SPEAKER_04 10:08

Maybe they're gonna attract people, but then you go to 147 and it's almost the same.

SPEAKER_01 10:12

Richardson Hitchens. That's it.

SPEAKER_04 10:14

That's it. That's the only one. He's at 147. They won't fight each other. And I don't think Shakur's fighting at 147.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

So Richard, Richard went up because he can't make weight.

SPEAKER_04 10:25

You signed for the money. That's all that's all I'm saying. Like, I that's that was my only gripe. I don't care. Like, good for you, get your money. But don't he kept saying it that he signed to make the best fights possible. I signed to make the best fights possible. The best fight possible is him and Haney at a catch weight, him and Tank Davis is the best fight possible. Him and um, who else? Any any of that, any of the people calling us? Oh, Garcia, Ryan Garcia, he's not signed, he's not signed with them. He's that's another weird thing. Yeah, but he's not signed with them. Oscar Delahoy's not gonna let that happen.

SPEAKER_01 10:58

Connor Ben is there. That's the only one. That's the only one that's possible. The one that's gonna happen. They they have to fight together.

SPEAKER_04 11:05

And he's what, 147?

SPEAKER_01 11:08

Yeah, yeah. Is he?

SPEAKER_04 11:10

Yeah, I think he's not 140. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 11:13

He was at 150 something.

SPEAKER_04 11:14

He waxes he waxes Connor Ben too. And that's another thing. Connor Ben is like now this cash cow for Zufa. They keep showing Connor Ben.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

Yeah, Connor Ben, right?

SPEAKER_04 11:23

Like he has a good English following for sure, but like over here, a lot of these American fighters beat the shit out of Connor Ben.

Shane Punchlines Joins The Rant

SPEAKER_04 11:30

So it's like Shakur definitely beats the shit out of Connor Ben. Um, oh wait, we have a guest, and I know he wants to chime in on this. Yo, what up, what up? We are here with Shane Punchlines, uh, the man, the myth, the legend. What's going on? What's up, dude? Oh, he's over there smoking some hashish. Yo, so so oh god.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

Listen, I'm listening, sorry.

SPEAKER_04 11:52

Jesus. Uh so yo, we're actually on the topic you wanted to talk about, and I know you're a big fan of his. Um, again, this is Shane Punchlines, the the CEO of Punchlines Boxing, the funniest man on Instagram who had a comeback, big comeback these past few weeks.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

Uh, everything's going right, dude.

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Are you settled? You good? Yeah, sorry. It's all right. Much better on the Wi-Fi. You guys hear me? Yeah, yeah, we hear you. Just just talk. You can hear us, right? Oh boy, he's smoking.

SPEAKER_00 12:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

Put down the weed.

SPEAKER_03 12:33

No, for oh God.

SPEAKER_01 12:37

Oh, that's great.

SPEAKER_03 12:38

It's great for our radio. This is why you don't smoke weed, people.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

Put down the weed. Um, what's up with your core, man? Answer the question right now, Shane. What's what's your thoughts on the core signal with the core?

SPEAKER_02 12:56

Dude, it it pisses me off. So bad. So bad. Like, especially you guys not hear me? We can't we hear you, we can't see you.

SPEAKER_04 13:09

It sounds like you got ran over by a lawmore.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

Bro, what the hell is going on? The screen is black, but we hear you. That's so weird. Like, I'm on the bottom.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

I know black lives matter, but damn.

SPEAKER_04 13:23

Um, hello. God damn it. Hold on. All right. Oh my god. You guys can hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Can you hear us? Yeah, god damn it. All right, just talk though. We're talking about Shakur with Zufa. What's your take on it? And I'll give you mine in a minute.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

It's it's I don't know. It makes me so mad as a Shakur fan, it makes me mad. Like, I have no excuses for it, and I'm not gonna pretend to make some. Like, if it's if he's doing it for money, cool. Like, I don't support it, but I'm also not the one in his position. But you can't tell me it's to make the bigger fights. Literally, the day all the other platforms go to the zone.

SPEAKER_03 14:10

I I literally just said this.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

Did y'all mothers connect and have Irish twins or something? What the fuck is going on? Yeah, both said the same shit out your mouth.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

But it's true, like if every promotion is under the zone, and then you decide to go to the one promotion that's not under the zone, and there's also none of the top guys over there, like who's he gonna fight? Rayo and fucking Richardson Hitchens if they decide to stop being cool all of a sudden, bro.

SPEAKER_01 14:41

It's like you literally did you listen to you listening to us? Yeah, like damn, you were toothed into the show, huh?

SPEAKER_04 14:48

So I I just said the same shit, and uh, and then you know, maybe I guess Connor Ben, since he's like the draw now, and this was my problem. Like, I don't care that Shakur signed with them. Like, great, get your money, just stop saying to our faces that it's for the best fights possible.

SPEAKER_02 15:03

Yeah, it also doesn't help that it was literally like an hour after they made it official that PBC went to fucking the zone.

SPEAKER_04 15:10

Yep, and then Dana White comes out and says, I just paid him a shitload of money on the McGregor press conference. Like, so so stop saying that because like I'll get I gotta give boxing. I I'm always hard on boxing in the fans, like like I give them a hard time. But one thing we are smart is with our boxing, and like we're not stupid, we know why you signed with Zufa because you got a boatload of money, and that's okay. Just stop putting it in our phases that you signed for the best fights when Rayo is is the top name at at 135, and then yo, you know who's a top name at 140? Richardson Hitchens and Brandon Lee. Richardson Hitchens at 147 now.

SPEAKER_02 15:45

Nah, Brandon Lee's stock fell, dog. He just took an L. That's what I'm saying. Like, fucking we're gonna get Shakur versus Sugar Cane, dude.

SPEAKER_04 15:54

That shit's gonna get eight and a half, and that's like if Shakur, I don't know what weight he's at either. He said he's not gonna fight at 147. So I'm assuming he's gonna fight at 140 versus Brian Gorham. Like, come on, no Shakur's not losing to anybody named Brian.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

He's about to fight A B. He's about to fight Adrian Brona.

SPEAKER_02 16:17

He's gonna fight Blair Cobbs, huh? Yeah, or or Mark Maxo.

SPEAKER_04 16:23

Um, it's just very, very weird that he's saying that. I mean, uh, I want to make the best fights possible. Maybe he's trying to trying to lure people in, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

Brian Garcia, but he's not here's here's my question because with the UFC, Dana has been known for two decades now that UFC guys only fight UFC guys, they don't do that cross-platform shit. But then isn't he doing Ben versus Garcia?

SPEAKER_04 16:51

I I'd say I don't think so. There's nothing official. Oscar De La Hoya is not gonna let Ryan Garcia fight.

SPEAKER_02 16:59

And if he is gonna confused because I thought that fight was like like, why were they all together at the fights this weekend?

SPEAKER_01 17:07

Ask the same question. Nobody knows. I mean all of them, all of them, bro. All of them together.

SPEAKER_02 17:12

Uh yeah, it was Ryan Connor and fucking Jalen Williams, dude.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

Yeah, Jalen Williams.

SPEAKER_04 17:18

Crazy. So, like, I don't I don't really know, nobody really knows. Um, I I I heard though, uh, what's his name? Who's the guy that that does the milk carton Mondays? Shit.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

Oh, yeah, four corner boxes.

SPEAKER_04 17:30

Yeah, four corners. Uh, which I was talking to him, and he said he thinks the ring is gonna get involved and dump money on it, but the ring's with the zone now, so I don't know what the fuck's going on.

SPEAKER_02 17:39

Yeah, but turkey owns 60 of Zoo for boxing.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Yeah, that's why didn't I say that too? Oscar, there's no way everything that's why I'm saying Shakur probably believed that everything is under Turkey. He said it actually, he said it to uh whatchamacallit, um Shannon Sharp. He said it's like yo, everybody's under Turkey, so all the fights is gonna be made regardless of facts.

SPEAKER_04 18:01

I don't know, man. I I mean I hope it happens, I I guess, but even that, like there's just so much that could go wrong as we know in boxing to plan a fight when you're under different platforms and promotion.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

Who the hell who's mad though? Who Eddie Hearn that nigga didn't lose a fight this left? He just lost another one.

SPEAKER_02 18:19

Who?

SPEAKER_01 18:20

Uh Johnny Fisher.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

Oh, yeah, yeah, but I don't think he's too mad about that one.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

Probably not.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

He's like a popular local following.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

He just he's losing, but he lost him to Zufa. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:34

Yeah, but I think that whole Zufa thing is it like I don't think it's gonna like last long because it's almost like the WCW, they're gonna try to they're gonna try to swoop all these big names, and then unless they're putting big like they're gonna try to do just big names on a card versus like subpar opponents, kind of like the PVC started doing towards their end. And like nobody's gonna give a shit. It's eventually gonna bull whip. All the bigger fights are gonna be happening on the zone, and shit's gonna start going back to normal. Like, they're not gonna be able to make that big of a profit unless you have getting having like UFC fighters box on their shit. Because I can see Dana doing that too, because he saw a bunch of UFC fighters making money by getting out and going to boxing. So he's gonna start giving his old UFC guys like boxing fights now.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

Oh, we would just say before you got on that McGregor going to box.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

Yeah, him and Poirier are gonna fight each other in boxing. That's gonna be a fucking disamane event in 24 months.

SPEAKER_04 19:35

Yeah, I I can see that. Um, but like with regards to to actual boxing, I just don't, it's not gonna like you put it.

SPEAKER_01 19:47

Oh my god. He was talking about shit. I don't see that. I want I pay to see that one because you ain't gonna wild shit.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

You know what though? I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna give I'm gonna give props to a guy I normally make fun of, but it's like you got Shakur doing this bullshit with Zufa, you got Tank. I don't know what the fuck Tank's doing, but you know who's always trying to get a big fight made? Regardless, Devin Haney.

SPEAKER_04 20:17

He is, yeah, he is, he is. You gotta give him that, gotta give him that. And I thought you were gonna say Rolly.

SPEAKER_00 20:24

No, Roley's not that active.

SPEAKER_02 20:27

Yeah, Roley's problem is inactivity, but like other than that fight before Ryan, I don't remember, you know, the guy didn't like the guy always takes like tough fights, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:40

Nah, no, you know who else we're gonna give him credit on here. Tia Fiba Lopez. Yeah, he bouncing back after a loss.

SPEAKER_04 20:48

This is crazy, but yeah, he is but um I think they parred before, so I I think he's it doesn't even matter.

SPEAKER_02 20:55

He's crazy how a lot of people a lot of people are picking Roley, dude.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

They're silly. I think I ain't gonna lie, with these uh eight ounce gloves, I think probably could crack him. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 21:05

I mean, he definitely could get hit, but I mean I think he's gonna piece Roley up a little bit, man.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

I don't know. This one's kind of iffy.

SPEAKER_04 21:11

They're not like Roley's not that much bigger than him. They're kind of like the same size. That's he's also much more called that might have the power. Yeah, he's no Rolly. And I'm not I'm not I'm obviously biased towards Teo. I just I know they've sparred a bunch. So Teo's problem is confidence he's coming in overly confidence.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

Roley, go to UFC after this. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_04 21:34

Did you see that sparring?

SPEAKER_01 21:35

Yeah, but he yo, you saw that sweeper right there, he's weapon, took him down.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

Oh, dude, yeah, that was clean, clean as shit.

SPEAKER_04 21:44

Yeah, and deservingly so. That was yeah. So, what they're talking about is uh I don't know who he was, but Roley was sparring somebody preparing for Teo. I I think it was recent, and the dude hit him with like a shoulder bump, like aggressive, jumped his shoulder into his chin. While sparring and Roley without hesitation just followed hip tossed him on the ground and hit him with a clean body shot, like a UFC move.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

I would have been like, I was just trying to act like I'm Teo. You know, Tio would do something like that.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

Hell no. People be forgetting Roley has like a legitimate judo background. I think it's a brown belt. Yeah, he he's like a legit judoka.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

Well, he fucked around and found out. I tell you that.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

Yeah, he did.

SPEAKER_04 22:28

So let's talk

Rolly Vs Teo And Title Logic

SPEAKER_04 22:30

about that fight. Um, not so much the fight itself, but I gotta be honest, like Punch is a big Shakur fan, and he was honest, and it was good to hear about Shakur going to Zufa, and the boxing world is a little upset about it. But To now coming off a loss that I don't think he won one round in that fight, uh gets a belt shot right away. I am so against that. I I'm glad the fight's happening. I'm I'm obviously a TO guy. Oh my god, but now he's gonna he's getting a shot at a title after coming off a loss uh when there's other guys at that weight 147 who have been wanting a title shot for so long.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

Yeah, but can you name them for me? Like I get what you're saying, but can you name the guys at 47 that with nah without looking them up?

SPEAKER_04 23:15

No, because everyone's like bouncing around, but but still and the title the title he's fighting for was gifted to Rolly. He didn't fight for that belt. No, so it's almost like a gift of a gift of a gift.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Like I think a lot of that too was Al Heyman getting a favor because this was pre-dizon PVC still, and it's like Al Heyman was like, dude, we fucking need champions over here. We've got none.

SPEAKER_04 23:43

Yeah. What's what's but who's who's the guy under him that just fought? Fuck. Hitchens who's supposed to fight him? Duarte? Yeah, I think Duarte deserves a shot.

SPEAKER_01 23:56

Oh, that's a good that would have been a good fight for Rolly. I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_04 24:00

I think he deserves a shot at this weight over Teo right now.

SPEAKER_02 24:04

Yeah, I think he he's beating some good guys, too. Um, they might have him fight Barbosa.

SPEAKER_04 24:11

Yeah, he he beats Barbosa. I'm pretty sure so too.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

I ain't gonna lie. Yeah, but Duarte, Duarte was at 140. Was he not? Did he move up?

SPEAKER_04 24:22

I know he right now he's the regular whatever for the the belt, the WBA regular for Romero. I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_01 24:28

Yeah, no, he's definitely at 140.

SPEAKER_04 24:30

147, though. I think he's the regular interim champ or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

When the hell did he fight him fight at 10?

SPEAKER_04 24:36

Wait, maybe am I wrong? Hold on, I might be wrong. Hold on.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

Oh no, he was about to fight at 140.

SPEAKER_04 24:42

He was 140, right? Uh no, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:46

I think Catarall might be the WBA regular.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

Oh, yeah, Mustard Jack got a title. No, he got a title.

SPEAKER_04 24:54

Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry, I was thinking of the wrong white guy. I'm thinking of Jack Catarell.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

No, he got a title, right?

SPEAKER_04 24:59

The regular, he's the one. Not not Duarte. My bad. That's right. I was I was thinking of Jack, Jack, uh fucking Caterell. My bad.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Yeah, and guess what? Yeah, Jack might be a deserving fighter, but I'm just like, like, if you look look at the state of the wealthweight division right now, and then like they need some star power up there, at least for a matchup. Especially if this is gonna be one of your first like CBC on the zone cards. Like, it's better to have Rolly versus Teal than Rolly versus fucking Catarall.

SPEAKER_04 25:33

No, no, and and I I totally understand that. But if I'm Catarole, I'm like, come on, dude, are you serious? This guy's coming off a loss, and then he jumped up. I just think of like in the fighters. And again, as a fan, I'm I'm glad it's happening. But I gotta get true.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

I totally get what you're saying, and you're not wrong, but I'm just I I I get where they're coming from, I guess is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 25:54

But this is like why people get so confused, like the regular fans when when you talk, like you know, the casual fans or whatever, I hate that word, but and you're like, oh, because the belt shit is so hard to explain, and there's no rhyme or reason for it. It's like, oh no, this is just more money.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

So we're like our free fall shit. Roley. Well, we need these fights now, anyway. Are we mad that Roley's fighting? No, nobody's mad.

SPEAKER_02 26:17

He got the belt at 140 the same exact way because he lost the tank, and then they're like, Oh, we'll just have you fight Poeo at 140, and then Puyo fails that drug test, and that's when Roley fought fucking Barroso, that old ass dude for the vacant.

SPEAKER_04 26:32

And like that, that dude was nice. That dude was nasty.

SPEAKER_01 26:35

Yeah, he hit hard on you. He lost that fight, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:39

But I again, no, you're right. Like, I'm glad the fight's happening, Willie. But like, there needs to be some structure. That's the problem. That's why Zoof is coming in now and trying to give structure.

SPEAKER_01 26:48

Like, yeah, I think it's no ranking system, really. It's just people fighting who the hell they want. It's all about the money, man.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

I I think they're just trying to make marketable fights to at least so at least no matter who wins, you at least remember them a little bit more before they start fighting these mandatories. And with everybody under the zone now, it's gonna be so much easier for them to make unification. So I think they're just trying to uh build off the white class a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Yeah, I mean it should be an entertaining fight, though. Like it should be, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:22

And the build-up will be entertaining.

SPEAKER_01 27:24

Build up, yeah. I don't know. Rolly is kind of calm, that's the battle of like battle of the CTE.

SPEAKER_04 27:30

Who's got the most CTE?

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Yeah, you're the man's already starring antics already.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

Is he already starting shit about uh about Teo or is he just being goofy?

SPEAKER_01 27:40

Yeah, he brought uh uh monkey face. Oh, True's face. Yeah, Teo did that. Yeah, Teo, yeah, Teo. What did I say? Um he brought feet, brought feet and all that.

SPEAKER_04 27:52

Like, that was but like, but yo, him and Roley are actually friends, like they're friends.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

Yeah, that's why I feel like Roley's more likely to talk shit about other fighters in the build-up to this fight than he is Tio.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Yeah, like they're they're actually literally Tio's a champion. I'm like, yo, damn, you're being mad nice.

SPEAKER_04 28:09

Also, too, though, I heard I heard Roley, I kind of feel like this is a gift to Tio because I already heard Roley before this was announced that he wants to go to 154. So I I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

He only wants to go to 54 for that spin spite. He's wanted that spince fight for fucking ever.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Why do I want to fight spin?

SPEAKER_02 28:28

I don't know. It's fucking roly, dude. Why did he do 99% of the same day?

SPEAKER_04 28:34

Yeah, true. Um, but yeah, I mean, listen, I again I just want to reiterate I am happy the fight's happening, and I hope Teo gets another belt.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

Etched in fucking the books as it's the thing either one of them would fight another champion if they get if they win that fight.

SPEAKER_04 28:49

Yeah, to look to unify, and so would Roli.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

So uh through division who To.

SPEAKER_04 28:56

This would be his third, yeah. This would be his third.

SPEAKER_02 29:00

Teo versus Ryan and and Ryan versus Roli too are both fun fights to make. I'm sure. Oh, of course, of course. T versus Haney in a unification fight. Oh, yeah, and there's bad blood there.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

Oh, yeah, like almost a decade old, dude. I want to see Ryan, Ryan versus Haney for undisputed. I think though that'd be the fucking biggest fight.

SPEAKER_04 29:22

I I think for like as a fan, I think Ryan Garcia versus Tiafimo. That's a good fight, too. I believe. Yeah, unifying. That's a super fight. That's a good fight. Um, but yeah, I mean, I okay, so I am happy that it's happening again, but I I just you know, I I do like I get what you're saying, and like like 99% of the time I probably agree with you for this particular instance.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

I'm like, ah, I get it, I get it. Because it's like I already don't take it that seriously just because Rolly's the shit.

SPEAKER_04 29:53

Yeah, and like, like, but that's what I mean. Like, when you dissect it, though, like, how do you get that belt?

SPEAKER_02 29:57

Like, do you see what I'm saying? I'd rather see an already popular fighter get a good win against Rolly than like Jack Catterall. Like, if Jack Catterall wins that fight, like nobody's gonna give a shit about Jack Catterall, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:11

Over here in England, they would, I feel like. Oh, I don't give a fuck about England, that's the thing. I don't like it. That's well, I like it. Well, yo, yo, yo,

DAZN Merger And Where Fans Watch

SPEAKER_04 30:20

okay, so let's talk about that. Speaking about you not giving a fuck about England, let's talk about the merger. The the Zone now gobbled up everybody, right? Yeah, and and I feel like only in England do they show the zone at the bars, so I'm not like really particularly happy that they bobbled up everything. As a boxing fan, as a boxing hardcore, of course.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

But we are back on TV over here. TNT TNT is lit right now.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

Yeah, they were smart, they would partner, like they would do monthly fights for each promotion, right?

SPEAKER_04 30:54

And then do like quarterly, like every three months, or like trimestrally every four months, one of the big ring cards where it's just a staff card with fighters from every promotion, and like have a deal to have like with a nationwide bar to have the fights on there, like, like, dude, like the I I'm always all about bringing more eyes to the sport, like not us, not the fucking people that talk about it religiously and shit, like outside people, like a bunch of Shannon Sharps, yeah. Like Shannon Sharps, our parents, you know, like fucking the the old guys at the bar, like the randos that like yo, you watched, can you put that fight on? Like, nobody's ever like, yo, can you put the zone on? That's what I'm saying. Like, it's just it's not really extending the sport, it's just making us happy.

SPEAKER_02 31:39

Like, my mom will try she tries to keep up with boxing, so she has something to talk to me about. And she'll she'll be like, What are you doing this weekend? I'm like, Oh, just watching the fight. Like, what are the fights on? Like, the zone. She's like, What channels that? I'm like, I don't have time to explain all this shit.

SPEAKER_01 31:54

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. What they doing with TNT, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:58

But who that's with the zone? The zone, yeah. That's with the zone.

SPEAKER_01 32:01

Oh, so it'll be on T is on TNT in the zone.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

Okay, so if you look at it, so this is what I found out with that Abdullah Mason fight because that was like the zone. I'm gonna have to get the zone, I don't have it. But they had the um, they said it was gonna be on TNT Sports. TNT Sports is normal live on HBO Max, but then they didn't put the fights on there.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

I was pissed. I don't my dad was watching it on TNT. Um I don't know. I don't know what TNT. I think I think if but he might does your dad have like regular T he got a legal cable, he got an illegal box.

SPEAKER_04 32:39

But no, I did see, I did see that them promoting it on the TNT, but I feel like they need to get that out more because it still nobody's like, Oh, I could be like, Oh, it's on TNT, just put TNT on. It's like, no, it's like I'm like the zone. Like, what's that? They don't even know how to say it.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

Dazzling, but I like what they doing already. I like that they try and so they have to, yeah, they have to. But it's getting it's guaranteed to have Sean Porter and and and Blood Crawford and all of them back, and Sergio Moore, and all of them back on these fights. So I hope it's regular, like on every fight, pretty much.

SPEAKER_04 33:14

It's just I think maybe, but again, I think they just need to market it better. I don't know, because it's not in England, it's probably massive, right? In England, it's massive news, crazy. Bars in England show D zone anyway.

SPEAKER_02 33:26

Yeah, because they have soccer and fucking European racing and all in America.

SPEAKER_04 33:31

There's never ever been a time where I just flip through the channels and D zone comes on. You know what I'm saying? And maybe that'll change, but it it needs to. That's my only issue with it because it's now not a monopoly, but kind of like a marketing monopoly. If that TNT shit isn't advertised right, no one will ever know.

SPEAKER_02 33:48

It just doesn't help that they're fucking behind a paywall, too, like a pretty big one.

SPEAKER_04 33:54

What is it? Oh, like with the with the other um TV channels and shit?

SPEAKER_02 33:58

Like, no, just the zone in general, because not every fight's gonna be on TNT. There's that's only a limited time thing, actually.

SPEAKER_04 34:05

Yeah, I don't I don't think so either. I think that's like a they gotta I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

We don't know yet. Yeah, that's like the unknown right now.

SPEAKER_04 34:11

Like this Ohio fight with the unlimited thing.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

I mean, everybody's under the zone, and the TNT the zone is all the same. Maybe all the state fights is gonna be here, not the is anything with ESPN now?

SPEAKER_04 34:26

Isn't there one with ESPN? No, I don't think anything's with ESPN.

SPEAKER_01 34:30

No, no, uh Netflix trying to get fights. That's about it.

SPEAKER_04 34:35

There is like there is like too many. It's like look look at us fucking talking. They should all be under one.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

And then Zupas on Paramount. Oh, this is not exactly this one. I was just about to say, as long as I don't have to download Paramount, I might not never see a Zuba fight. I ain't gonna lie to you. Nah, it's too many fucking apps for me. I'll give you my password. I gotta keep on saying that, and I always deny it. I'm good. All right.

SPEAKER_04 34:59

Um, but yeah, I don't know. Again, it it is good for us as boxing fans, though, either way. We're gonna watch no matter what, but I just want to see it get extended out there, like people talking about boxing. Because I'll I'll like an example is I'll explain like if I'm at a bar or whatever, I'm explaining they're like, Oh, who's the top boxer right now? And even Shakur, I'll be explaining Shakur to to fucking white guys because all the black guys know him, but I'll be explaining Shakur to white guys, and they're like, Oh, I never heard of him. I'm like, Yeah, he's really good. I don't know what he's on, but he's really good, you know? Or like any any the the heavy the zone has all the heavyweights. I'd be like, Oh, you want to see a good heavyweight fight? Put on the zone. Like, what's the zone? Oh, it's the app. Oh, I gotta download, yeah. Oh, I'm not doing all that. Okay, Dazon, Daz on, yeah, you don't even know how to spell it. Yeah, it's so annoying. Well, yeah, it's just again, it's a it's a positive, and we're we're very negative people, but it's it's still I'm seeing this as a positive, man.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

We I see it T T. I see some maybe I don't we don't know yet, so we don't know how how often it's gonna be there. Hopefully it's often, bro. I like free shit, you know what I'm saying? Just free.

SPEAKER_04 36:10

I do like like when you when you Jesus Christ. Sorry, dude. I'm gonna have to edit the fuck out of this. This guy's over there smoking weed, man. Yo, when school starts, no more weed.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

I I hey bitch, I graduated in May.

SPEAKER_04 36:25

Oh no, I meant like because of your job.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:30

This guy graduated just a pothead now. Okay, what'd you what'd you major in?

SPEAKER_02 36:37

Just business admin.

SPEAKER_04 36:39

Nice.

Pacheco Vs Aleem Plus Betting Talk

SPEAKER_04 36:41

All right, though, but while we're on the topic of DZone, let's uh Diego Pacheco versus Emmanuel with a W. Emanuel.

SPEAKER_02 36:53

Uh like just to illustrate this, not to cut you off, but go ahead. Have you seen the video of them talking shit to each other in the ring when they announced the fight? No, no. Oh, dude, watch it. Even they don't give a fuck about the fight.

SPEAKER_04 37:08

Well, I mean I I got it like the Diego, he he's definitely like not what we thought. Like, I bet the knockout a bunch of times and didn't get it.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

Super middleweight Alexis Rocha, dude.

SPEAKER_04 37:20

Yeah, exactly. That's that's a good part. But like his the only thing I'm I'm still giving him hope is his age. Like, he's still what is he like 22, 23?

SPEAKER_02 37:31

Yeah, he's young and he's good to a level, but uh it's like I look at him and Xander the same way, like they have these tools, yeah, but their fucking ceiling is also very clear to me. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:46

Yeah, I'm gonna tell you one random thing I'm about to do is bet the draw because this guy done got three, he got three already, so bottle jack got four, but yeah, he got three already. He goes the fourth one.

SPEAKER_04 38:02

And yo, go in the distance, go in the distance with Larry Martinez. Like, I I didn't expect that. Yeah, he did it. So I guess and some people said that could have been a draw, but I don't I didn't agree with it.

SPEAKER_01 38:13

But um, I'm betting the drawing. And yo, you know what?

SPEAKER_04 38:16

You know what? He was born in Long Island. He was born on Long Island, Aline. East Meadow.

SPEAKER_01 38:20

Yeah, yeah, so yo, you look like somebody I know.

SPEAKER_04 38:24

Um sorry, Pacheco. Going for Aleem too. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_02 38:29

Yeah, I'll go for Aleen too, bro. I do not, I'm I don't care. Call me a hater. I don't like Pacheco.

SPEAKER_04 38:37

It was just a lot of hype, a lot of hype with him, and and Eddie Hearn is a very good promoter in that regard. He he makes us believe that these fighters are God's gift, and this we're not thinking Diego Pacheco was like 18 when they signed him.

SPEAKER_02 38:49

Oh did you also see Shiraz got a fight announced today? Yeah, very much. Yeah, he's on that card. Yeah, who the fuck is that?

SPEAKER_04 38:57

You know what's funny? Uh the the Bronco, what's his face? What's his name? Yeah, he just posted him like tagging up, like he posted highlights of himself from that from that fight, and I reposted it and he looked at it. So that that made me horny.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

But uh, yeah, beautiful as fuck. You could probably get him as an interview.

SPEAKER_04 39:19

I know, I just I don't think he speaks good English, so no, you need a translator.

SPEAKER_02 39:22

Yeah, I uh I actually I use the guy, you know, the page Mo Boxing, Mo Problem. Yeah, that guy translated for me when I interviewed him back when I did a podcast.

SPEAKER_04 39:32

Oh shit. Yeah, that's why I gotta do something.

SPEAKER_01 39:36

Reach out to what's the what's the draw, Will? Plus 2500.

SPEAKER_04 39:41

Plus 2500 is this draw. So you bet a hundred you win 2500. Yeah, long shot. Yeah, fuck it.

SPEAKER_02 39:48

Um guys, I gotta get off get off and go to the shower to meet these guys down at the bar.

SPEAKER_04 39:54

All right, bro. All right, we'll do this again.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

Make sure you take a haul or something.

SPEAKER_04 39:58

Yeah, take some cough drops, some visine,

Spence Vs Tszyu And An Era Ending

SPEAKER_04 40:00

all that.

SPEAKER_02 40:01

Willy, who are you going for next weekend? Just next week.

SPEAKER_01 40:06

Next weekend, yeah. Who's next weekend? Spence and Tim. I'm gonna go with Spence, man. What the fuck? You can't do that.

SPEAKER_02 40:14

Bro, I'm bought one of his shirts.

SPEAKER_01 40:17

I can't, I can't fucking do this. I'm rooting for Spence, right?

SPEAKER_04 40:21

I still got that's the only autograph I didn't give away for free. I still got the Spence auto.

SPEAKER_02 40:25

I don't think he's gonna win. I'm really rooting for him, though.

SPEAKER_01 40:29

I know what's cousin.

SPEAKER_02 40:30

I b I bought I bought one of his shirts. I bought one of wait, you say you know his cousin?

SPEAKER_01 40:34

I know his cousin, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:36

Isn't he isn't he was born in Long Island too, wasn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Something like that.

SPEAKER_04 40:40

Yeah, he was.

SPEAKER_01 40:41

Yeah, Darrell Darrell Hunter is his cousin. Um the Spence twins to play basketball.

SPEAKER_04 40:46

They're known as the Spence twins out here. They're good amateurs.

SPEAKER_01 40:48

I met them. They uh they came down to the gym.

SPEAKER_04 40:51

They moved to Florida though. Oh, I think one's gonna go pro soon, actually.

SPEAKER_02 40:56

I bought one of his 75. I went to the army for fight. Army's get.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

Um, yeah, you are navy, but same shit.

SPEAKER_02 41:10

Um I bought one of his shirts for the fight, just in case it's his last fight.

SPEAKER_03 41:14

Willie, did you see the shirt he bought though?

SPEAKER_02 41:16

No.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

It's like funny. The 750s. Oh, the big the big shark. It's a giant like shark.

SPEAKER_04 41:25

But it looks like a vagina.

SPEAKER_01 41:27

Big fish.

SPEAKER_02 41:28

Yeah, it doesn't look like that on the shirt. The shirt looks different. I also bought uh I bought one of Demetrius Andrade's hats, too.

SPEAKER_04 41:35

Oh, he's fighting the 24th.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but here's you the the just the point I was getting on, just in case I don't come on before the fight next week. Like, the reason I want Spence to win is I'm not ready to like say goodbye to that era yet. Because if you think about it, they're all like Porter, Danny Garcia, Amir Calvin, Algiri, Roner, Crawford, Thurman should be retired. Crawford, yeah, they're all retired.

SPEAKER_01 42:02

Uh now that you say that, he might lose.

SPEAKER_02 42:06

I just know I'm I'm a big Spence fan.

SPEAKER_01 42:08

Error is over.

SPEAKER_02 42:10

I already feel like he's gonna lose regardless, but like so.

SPEAKER_04 42:13

I'm a huge Spence fan. I I've been a huge Spence fan. Bro, bro, uh Triple G and Spence. Like when Spence came into the picture coming up and triple G was doing his thing. I was like, damn, I really like this Spence guy. But I gotta say, I know Zoo is gonna hit him with something at least twice. Yeah, and can he withstand that something?

SPEAKER_01 42:30

Because Zoo could crack on that's one of the first boxing fights I went to was Aerospence. It was him and well, A B went. I don't know. I went to Spence versus I think Spence versus Brooke and Brooke. But he's never we gotta be all right.

SPEAKER_02 42:43

No, that was no, no, no. You went to Spence versus Lundu.

SPEAKER_01 42:46

That was the one in New York, so that was the one in the Barclays. I went to I don't know which one.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

Oh, Algeri or Porter, maybe because he fought Brooke in no.

SPEAKER_04 42:56

I I I went I went there, he had a fight on Long Island too. He had a fight on Long Island too versus Lamont Peterson. He went to the first time. I went to that one.

SPEAKER_02 43:04

Did you go to his one on Coney Island? That venue looks sick.

SPEAKER_04 43:07

Oh no, no, I that did yeah. Um, but again, I I don't think I I I do think Spence can beat him. Like, you know, Spence is probably at one point a level above zoo, but uh we've seen Spence get hit. I don't think he's really with it. I don't think he really wants this. I think he's short on money and needs to do this. Because like if you look at there was an interview and he was like, Oh, why'd you pick zoo? And he's saying why he picked Zoo. He's fighting him in Australia. He picked him because that's the most money he's gonna make. Because no matter what, zoo sells out Australia. So yeah, I I think it was a m it's a money grab, win, lose, or draw. He don't really care. He's got a weird rat tail.

SPEAKER_01 43:47

Yeah, nah, that shit is ugly. That's what I meant to bring up. Why the fuck he got that? He had lots of gross though, dude.

SPEAKER_02 43:54

Crazy, like, bro. It looks like John Cheadle from Rush Hour, dude.

SPEAKER_01 43:58

Yeah, he's gonna look stupid. In the ring too. If he gets knocked out, I'm just saying, if he gets knocked out and that rat tail whips, I fucking I fucking um pull that shit while boxing somehow in the fucking clinch.

SPEAKER_02 44:10

Um yo, I heard even even if he does win, like let's say hypothetically he does win, what's he do next? Fight Fandora? How the fuck does he beat Fundora, dude? He doesn't. No, there's there's literally he's food for Fandora stylistically in every way.

SPEAKER_01 44:29

But I you know what? I um maybe he lets Boots retire. He sound he's he sounds kind of regular though. He don't sound as slow and shit how he sounded against. He's still I said ass slow. I said ass slow. He's still slow, but as slow. He's still sounding slow though.

SPEAKER_04 44:49

Uh yo, his teeth are okay. He gotta he's gotta like put some yellow shit on his teeth to make him look a little more natural. Those teeth are too fake looking.

SPEAKER_02 44:59

But again, I'm not trying to hate on my guy. I had no idea his car accident was so closely related to like this fucking rap murder that happened in Dallas. Was it really yeah, was like that you know that rapper Yellow Beeasy that he used to walk out with all the time? Yeah, I love that guy. Well, that dude's going on trial for like hiring somebody to murder this Dallas rapper, and a lot of people think that Dallas rapper was chasing Spence that night, right?

SPEAKER_04 45:30

Yeah, oh shit, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 45:32

It was Peterson, that's why I said yeah, Lamont Peterson.

SPEAKER_04 45:34

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 45:37

Oh, that was on Long Island, that was at Barclays, uh it was. Uh uh Barclays had twice.

SPEAKER_04 45:43

Oh shit, I was at Barclays. I'm an idiot.

SPEAKER_01 45:44

That's the one I was.

SPEAKER_02 45:45

It was supposed to be in Long Island, though.

SPEAKER_01 45:47

Yeah, I think it was.

SPEAKER_02 45:49

But he had he did have an early fight in Long Island, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_01 45:52

Who was on that card though?

SPEAKER_04 45:54

I'm gonna see um Jarrell Miller was. I know. I remember I saw Gerrell Miller. I was there too. Damn, Willie, our stars could have aligned before we even knew each other. Imagine that. You're probably like, who's this drunk white guy talking shit? But uh yeah, I mean no, that I I actually I became a fan of Yellow BZ because he's friends with Spence, but that makes sense if that really happened.

SPEAKER_02 46:15

Yeah, dude, there's like there's a video of fucking Charleston White talking about it, of all people.

SPEAKER_04 46:20

Jesus. He was never he was never the same after that accident.

SPEAKER_01 46:26

Never the same.

SPEAKER_04 46:28

Oh my god. Um, but yeah, all right. So punch, maybe we'll do this again.

SPEAKER_02 46:33

Um, yeah, I want to do it next week. I mean, we're still on vacation.

SPEAKER_04 46:38

My schedule was my schedule's a little wacky, so it might be random, but I'll let you know. Just wear some fucking headphones next time and stop moving around so much. Bro, I was just sitting there. Your phone, what what do you have? Like an iPhone 2?

SPEAKER_02 46:52

I got uh whatever the last one with the fucking home button is. I still need my thumb to open this bitch.

SPEAKER_04 46:58

Yeah, you got an old phone, bro. That's why it's all fucked up. Like we have no video, it's just a black screen.

SPEAKER_02 47:03

Yeah, dude. It's yeah, I know it's old because this thing's fucking hot all the time, dude.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

That's my that's my phones be getting fried in the garbage truck, it'd be so hot in there.

SPEAKER_04 47:16

I think we covered everything anyway, though. We could just go too, really. I think we're

Missed Interview And Upcoming Schedule

SPEAKER_04 47:20

done.

SPEAKER_01 47:20

Um that's early.

SPEAKER_04 47:22

Yeah, we don't really have much. We're supposed to, you know, we so we are. I'll just say it now. If you made it this far, we were supposed to interview Oshaki Foster's coach, but we dropped the ball yesterday. Yeah, he left me on red now. But yo, actually, my my wife had like a good question. She's like, yo, ask him if they talk about his hair and his weight, like if his hair affects him making weight.

SPEAKER_02 47:44

Oh dude, I've thought about that. That is a good question.

SPEAKER_04 47:46

And I was like, Oh shit, yo, you're you're right. Like, too bad we couldn't ask him it because now he just leaves me out.

SPEAKER_01 47:51

They gotta account for that and yeah, like try it.

SPEAKER_04 47:54

Yo, I think Angeletti's getting a title shot. Oh, yeah, yeah. I saw that. Oh no, no, that that's not a title shot, though. I don't think it's a title shot.

SPEAKER_02 48:01

It's a title eliminator, though, right?

SPEAKER_04 48:03

Yeah, yeah. But it was just weird. Yeah, but this is weird because he already was a mandatory from his last fight. That's why I don't understand. Wait, he's fighting another top dude.

SPEAKER_02 48:15

Who's the champion there? Um hold on, what uh it's 118. Right? Is it 118 or is he at 122?

SPEAKER_04 48:26

I think it's 118.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

Is that Junika's weight call?

SPEAKER_04 48:33

Uh no, I think I don't know, the the with the weights when they get lesser, I I get all fucked up. I think it's it's Bam Rodriguez's. No, Bam's not IBF. No, he's I think he's 118, yeah. Yeah. Well, he's WBA. IBF would be Jose Salas Reyes.

SPEAKER_02 48:56

Is that the guy that fucking was on that PVC panel yesterday? Was he? I didn't even see it. Yeah, so when they did the the Rolly Teal press conference yesterday, before that, they had like a panel with like Fondora, um uh Jesus Ramos with his fake 160 belt, some other Mexican guy. I'm pretty sure it was the guy you just said, and then Brandon Figaro is up there because he's a champion.

SPEAKER_04 49:23

Oh, shit, shit, shit. I don't mean to interrupt you, but you're right. It is it's for the it's versus that guy.

SPEAKER_02 49:29

So it is a title shot.

SPEAKER_04 49:31

Yeah, I guess it is. Damn, go for him. Damn, Angeletti's probably gonna smoke him too.

SPEAKER_02 49:40

I wonder if that I wonder if that's that's the guy that they're gonna let that fucking. Oh fuck, I gotta go.

SPEAKER_01 49:54

Uh all right, man. He's stressing me out. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_04 49:59

That was a lot of noise. I got a lot of editing to do, but yeah, our boy Michelangeletti is fighting for a title, IBF title, Jose Reyes. He's actually gonna come back on the show, Willie. Oh, sorry, punch had to had to throw you to the sideline there. You had a lot of shit going on. It's like some ADD fucking getting me crazy. Um, I don't know if this is gonna be sound good either, but whatever. Uh, I think we covered everything, Willie, though.

SPEAKER_01 50:23

I think we're we're done we're here, we did it. Uh, we're back again, and we, you know, you got any throw some more content.

SPEAKER_04 50:30

Only bet is the draw.

SPEAKER_01 50:31

I'm betting in George's cuz, bro.

SPEAKER_04 50:33

Yeah, I'm definitely betting the over.

SPEAKER_01 50:35

This guy, yeah. No, that's definitely gonna hit he's gonna last the whole fight.

SPEAKER_04 50:39

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, um, what else? What is that?

SPEAKER_01 50:42

What kind of what kind of odds? It's probably they already know he's lasting the whole fight.

SPEAKER_04 50:45

Yeah, they know. Let's see the boxing schedule coming up, and then uh boogie out of here.

SPEAKER_01 50:51

Tyson Ferry supposed to be fighting.

SPEAKER_04 50:53

Yeah, I think he's on that fight. Um I think that's well, uh is fighting too a nobody, and they don't even know the rounds.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

Or maybe Hamez is gonna be on that fight on that card.

SPEAKER_04 51:06

Oh, Shiraz.

SPEAKER_01 51:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:09

Katie Taylor's fighting in September. She's fighting, she still fighting. Yo, Play was fighting July 18th, but Adelaide Ruiz versus Ginny Fuchs. 10 rounds for Ruiz's woman's bantamweight title. This kind of goes back to what we were talking about earlier with the the whole titles and nobody knows what's going on. Ginny already beat her with one thumb. Her thumb fucking broke out of the bone. And now then, right after that, they gave Ruiz a title shot, which made no sense because Ginny beat her for her lesser title. So she finally gets her opportunity. Ruiz said she had an injury, so the fight got canceled last time when I was in Cali. But I'm just happy for our girl man. And she's she's getting her shot. I hope she wins. I'm definitely gonna be tuning into that. At work, don't fire me. Um, but yeah, that's that's the homie.

SPEAKER_01 52:02

At work is crazy.

SPEAKER_04 52:03

Yeah, what am I what else am I gonna do? I don't know. That's the only real fight I'm looking forward to on that card, anyway. Uh, it's a pro box card, they usually have good fights. You got Brian Flores versus Jonathan Navarro. Where is it at? It is in Cali, another one in Cali. Can't make that trip again. Sorry. Um, yeah, that's really that's really it. Uh Anthony Joshua is fighting July 25th. Tyson Fury's fighting July 24th in Thailand versus Maurice Wash. I've seen him fight. He's like a journeyman. Um not that good. And I think they're friends too. And then July 26th, you have Edgar Berlanga and Richardson Hitchens on the same card. Jaleal Hackett's also on the card versus Devronchenko. Uh Devronchenko's always in good fights. Otto Wallins on the card. This is a this is actually uh a Zufa card. Um, I kind of wanted to go, but they want really high prices for for the floor.

SPEAKER_01 52:59

What?

SPEAKER_04 53:00

Yeah, so I don't think we're going. I mean, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 53:03

Zufa'd be bugging, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:05

They starting already with the bullshit. Yeah, and we're still paying for the last fight. So I don't think we're going to that one. Wow, Lamont Roach is fighting too. Okay. William Zapeta. That's that's actually the next big fight, honestly. Next fight with any kind of buzz for the boxing heads.

SPEAKER_01 53:22

William Zapeta versus Lamont Roach.

SPEAKER_04 53:24

Yeah, Lamont Roach versus William Zapeta for the vacant WBC lightweight title. August 1st, day after my birthday. And then August 8th.

SPEAKER_01 53:32

Yeah, what are you doing for your birthday?

SPEAKER_04 53:34

Nothing. Sitting right here. Nothing. Actually, no, I'm working. I work. But yeah, that's it for the sparring boxing podcast. Uh, I got a lot of editing to do. Sorry about that. Punchlines. Great guy. Service sucks. Great guy. Service sucks. Uh, we're out though. We'll be back again. We're gonna try and push more content out there. Willie's all about the content. We're back in the gym. Maybe we'll show you our skills or lack thereof. Please like, subscribe, and all that bullshit. Um, yeah. You got anything, Willie?

SPEAKER_01 54:05

No, just playing solitaire. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_04 54:08

This is a shitty episode.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

Willie playing solitaire. I thought we must have been out of here. Peace. Later.