Unified Champ Ricardo “El Nino” Sandoval On Canceled Fights And Staying Ready

We sit down with unified flyweight world champion Ricardo “El Nino” Sandoval to talk about how a major fight can get canceled overnight and what it takes to stay ready when the date keeps moving. We get into elite sparring, flyweight respect, and the mindset shift Ricardo makes when a knockdown forces him to fight smarter.

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Meeting A Champion Ringside

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It's time for the main event. It's the Sparing Podcast. Yo, what up, what up, what up? Welcome to Spar Unboxing Podcast. You guys wanted more interviews, so we're giving you more interviews. World champion interviews. Ricardo El Nino Sandoval. What up, man? Hey, what's up? What's up? How you guys doing? Good, good. And he's in the Spar in a shirt. He he really like he got me going. Yo, you guys. So we we met we met Ricardo at the Shakur Tio fight. Um, and I I I never got to apologize to you because uh we were pretty blitzed. So I hope we didn't ruin it for you, but uh nah nah. You guys made it you guys made the event a little bit more fun, or you know, you guys are out here, you know, cheering on, you know, talking your smack, so you know it was cool. Thanks that shit was crazy because like we sitting next to our uh unified world champion, never even knew it. Like your fucking babyface ass is sitting here chilling, man. Calm, like you was too cool. You coach, everybody. I remember looking over, like, man, I know this guy from somewhere, but I was seeing like three of you. So I'm like drunk as hell, yeah, yeah. But all right, enough, enough about that. Uh that that was a good time, though. Was that that wasn't your first time in New York, right? You've been there before? No, that was actually my first time. First time in New York. Yeah, I was there for the for the um the ringside, the ringside awards. I was a nominator for up to the year, so we were out there, and then we uh there was tickets to go to the fight, so invited us, and then we're like, well, like, why not? You know, one of the best fights of the year, you know. So we were we were there. They gave you the floor seats too. Yeah, yeah. Um so listen, I know you're going through some stuff right now. You had a big fight coming up, you were in training camp for the fight. Yeah. Uh how you dealing with that? And more more importantly, what what was his injury? I I didn't read it, I didn't hear about it. Uh crazy. I I I don't even know what's well, he was his injured.

The UK Title Fight Gets Canceled

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I don't know if they sent the medicals. Last time I last time I talked to Golden Boy, um, they didn't receive the medicals. So we were just waiting on that, but then uh haven't gotten any news over his situation. You know, I was supposed to fight, I believe um, the day was June 20th. They had rescheduled for a fight here in Oceanside, and um we got postponed as well. I think uh they gave it to I think main events gonna be, they just announced it, uh, Koyazo. So I think so. I think we'll be we're we'll be fighting sometime. You know, that's what we're working on right now on a date. Okay, so you still have a fight coming up. Yes. Yeah, I'll be fighting either July or August. That's what we're that's what we're looking in. I well, I don't understand how this guy gets uh uh a belt chance after losing, right? Or he his last fight was a loss, or he fought and won again. Yeah, he actually he so he uh he fought um Chiwas Rodriguez, but he he lost, but he then he came uh Chiwas came out positive with with um some stuff. Yeah, so they remember that. So they uh they took away the loss, and then he's so he's he was still our interim champion. Oh wow. So we're talking about Galal Yaf Yafel. I never know how to say his name, I think I'm saying it right, but uh so you were getting ready to go to England for that fight for those that don't know, and then it it got canned pretty abruptly. I mean the promotion started, everyone we started getting the you know, the the Instagram feeds were blowing up with the promo, and then boom, it got cancelled. How do you how do you deal with that? Has that happened to you before? Was this the first time that happened? Or yeah, I I've it's happened before where fights have been cancelled, literally day

Medicals, Hep C, And Boxing Chaos

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of fight. Oh uh, yeah, there's there's been uh I think I've had two fights like that where day of wins or day of fight, i.e. they're like, oh, fights off. And I'll be really surprised. I'll be like, well, like what happened? Oh medicals can uh opponent came out with medicals and something with his head. Um my last fight, no, not my last fight. Um, my last time someone uh my fight got canceled. Some uh the my opponent came out positive with hepatitis C. So yeah, so it had they right away, it was like all fights are like uh immediately. So you know, there's been situations like that, and and it's and it sucks, but you know, it's part of the sport. Hepatitis C. I think that's yeah, it's done crazy. Yeah, it's on crazy, it's on crazy stuff. Boxing really is like the wild west though, man. I definitely would never took that fight. I ain't gonna lie to you. Yeah, it's not like other sports. Only babies get there. Are you are you are you after your you said you have a fight coming up still, but are you are you looking to get back into England and fight Yify? Or I'm not sure what's what I don't know what's the situation there. I don't know because I guess we don't know his injury, I don't know how long he's gonna be out. Uh I'll be fighting sometime. I need to get a fight real soon because I was already I'm supposed to be in the UK right now. Uh I was gonna say that was my next thing. Like go to the UK. Yeah, I was supposed to leave to the UK either Tuesday or or Wednesday. And uh why are you always traveling? You really are like the traveling. Yeah, like you are a uh role war here. Yeah, I don't know for this fight. We wanted to make it out here, you know. My first title defense making it out here in front of my people, but then uh match was making everything really complicated uh with the negotiations, so then we Goldumbo and Match room went up Persbid, and then uh Match won Persbid, so they get to dictate where the whole vent or the whole fight, and so they wanted to make it out there, so we wouldn't have to go out there and fight again. But you know, I know why I know why he got hurt, though. I know why he got hurt, and uh, commented on it on your post, but uh match room in in England, they don't do well with the Latinos, man. I said that I said something like oh, they thought he was a white guy and then realized I did see that I saw that comment, yeah. But it is there is some truth there, you know. I'm I'm just kidding, but there is some truth there that oh that the Latinos go over there, man, and they always they always mess up match room's plans. Came out with the top, yeah. Yeah, I thought there I find the UK ones in 2021. It was for the IBF title eliminator, and then we did we did come out with the win, we won with the eighth round knockout. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So speak on that real quick. Uh you are like, I don't want to say you're a knockout artist, but you do you have you are accumulating big knockouts and big moments, you know what I mean? Like and and in your weight class, obviously it's it's a it's a much lighter weight class. Yes. Who who was who are some other guys in in your weight class with real power like like you? Uh I uh Finito Lopez, Ricardo, Ricardo Fanito Lopez, he he was a knockout artist at the where late at the uh lower weight divisions. You know, you could say Chocolatito was also he was more of a volume puncher.

Sparring With Chocolatito And Bam

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Yeah, he just breaks breaks down his opponents. Uh I would say those two. Chocolatito too is good at like setting up his knockouts, yeah. Yeah, really, really good. Yeah, yeah, he's more he's more of a touch, touch, touch, boom, boom, boom. And then he have have you ever sparred with him? Yes, I've I sparred Chocolotito twice, three or three times, somewhere around there. Wow. And it was it was really good work. You know, I've I could say that I've got a lot of experience off of off of him, just the way he fought. That was the time when he was on rank one number one pound for pound. So, you know, getting getting those type of sparring and those rounds with the with those with that type of a fighter, you know, it I got a lot of experience out. That's awesome. Speaking of sparring, you sparring with Bam? Yeah, I was sparring Bam for this uh for this fight fight. You know, they're both lefties. So what best work I could get, you know, sparring bam, you know, number three or four pound for pound at the moment. So, you know, yeah. What best work I could get. It was amazing. You know, it's great work. You know, me and Bam had sparred. It wasn't the first time we sparred, we sparred a lot of times. I actually sparred him when the first time I was sparring, we're like 13 or 14. And then I sparred him like in 2018, 2019, and sparred him again this uh for this last camp. You know, it was really good work. You know, we did six rounds and then we did eight rounds on on uh on Wednesday. So we we sparred two two times for this camp. Oh wow, that's awesome. Where do you have spar at though? Because like uh A Bam, like Texas is he training in he's he trains with um Barbara Garcia, so he trains here in Riverside. Yeah, well Marnobody now, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it's close by. Oh, that's good. Oh, that's great for you. Oh man, I would I would love to just watch that being just watching that shit. I always wondered this too, and I I know why, but like I feel like there's such good sparring that goes on in boxing. Yeah, I wish there was like a thing where people could pay. You know, you sign a waiver, you're not gonna pay anything, you just pay. It'd be a way for you guys to make money too, you know. Yeah, yeah. And I just say sometimes the fight, the sparring are harder than the fights, you know. That's 100%. So you're sparring three times a week, and we're still doing 10, 12, 13, 14 rounds, whatever uh your schedule to fight. So imagine sparring 12 rounds every three times a week. And sp and sparring with guys like Bam and Chocolate Tito, man. Now I I was gonna I had a bunch of other questions with regards to your training and how you got where you got, but now we know. Yeah, we know top sparring. Top sparring. Do you do you spar when when you're in camp? Do you spar like you have a rotation like three times a week or twice a week, or is it just every day? Some guys spar every day. No, I I sparred Monday, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Those are my that's my routine right there. Yeah, three times a week. Oh gosh. WBA WBC Champ spars three times a week, man. That's that's that's awesome. Is

Chasing Undisputed And Respect For Flyweights

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is your goal as as a unified champ, is your goal undisputed, or are you gonna move up? Yeah, my plans right now is to become undisputed at the flatweight division. And um hopefully getting that. Uh, that'll be I would like to go up to 115 and test the waters out up there. So now now you have two belts, and you're the only one in your weight class with two belts. Yes, no more going to Japan, man. Bring them here. It's time they come here. I understand they got a lot of guys in the lightweight division, but yeah, we gotta bring them over here, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree. I agree with that. We're always going over there. Yeah, I don't know what. Uh, they had they do they actually do have a fighter that has that is a champion. He has a IBF. His name is Yabuki, you know, he's a he's a great fighter as well. You know, and Masamichi, Masamichi, Yabuki. Yabuki, yeah. And I would like to get you know get that fight going too. You probably would go to Japan again. I know you like Japan. You into Japan, probably. What makes you say that? I don't know. Like even Bam, Bam likes Japan. Like, yeah, like it's just like um anime. You like anime? Nah, I've never watched anime. Ah, but they asked him that. He was like, I'm not really into it. Like, but he liked Japan. I don't know why. Didn't he say he liked Japan though, too? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I'm not hating on Japan. I'm just sick of waking up at 7 a.m. to watch guys. And and it's always like it's and you're the lower weight classes when you're like a real boxing fan, although you guys don't get the credit you deserve on like the mainstream, but the real boxing heads love watching the lower weight classes because of the action, because of the the the knockouts, and you guys usually get back up from the knockdowns, yeah, as we're talking to the man himself right here. And y'all be fighting, I ain't gonna lie, y'all be fighting a lot of fast hands, a lot of punches. Oh man, it's just straight action. You know, you know, they say um what weight is it like 140, 147, maybe 154. They don't really throw much punches because they're really cautious with the with the power, you know, especially upgrades, yeah. Yeah, we throw we throw over 100 punches per round sometimes. Yeah, so it's like it's the credit that we don't sometimes the credit that we that we don't be taking in, you know, because we we put out a show, you know. We always come in and fight, throwing a lot of punches. That's what people pay for, you know. So it's entertaining you guys, and and I feel like the lower weight leave should get more more attention and and be appraised

The Mindset After A Knockdown

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more. Do you do you feel like speaking of speaking of the entertainment? You you're a guy that that's taken losses early, right, in your career. You bounce back, you've been knocked down in close fights, you bounce you bounce back. Does does something turn? Does does that Latino energy turn on when you take it? And then you come out? Like, what goes on? Put us in your head for a second. Like, what goes on in your mind when this happens? Yeah, so when when so my last fight when I got dropped, he clipped me and I was on the floor and I was like, fuck. I was like, damn, you know, I was like, it's like this is the moment where I gotta, you know, I gotta turn it off. I gotta get my get back. And um, but at the same time, I gotta keep calm because you know he he is a dangerous fighter. And uh so I got up and I knew he was gonna come at me straight away. And then as soon as he did, you know, I landed, I I threw, I think I threw it like over him, right? Like real quick. And then I just just to know, just to like, just to make him feel that, you know, I'm still uh I'm locked in, you know, that I'm good. And I stay, I stayed there. I didn't move, I stayed there and fought with him, and just just for me to get just for him to know that I was that I was fine. And then hopefully, I know I wanted to land that one punch to drop him as well. But you know, it didn't happen, but I did, I did make him know then that I was fine. It was great to see, man. We we loved it, and like it it kind of goes with like your your nickname, El Nino, right? Like that that means like uh like like the almost I

The Real Story Behind El Nino

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don't want to say the calm before the storm, but like the the heat wave, right? Like it's warm and so and then the storm comes. Yeah, like it's perfect. Is that how you got that nickname, or is it fit? My my nickname came from so right here back then at the house when we used to live, there used to be three families, which were my where was that in Rialto here in the same place right now at the house. Okay, uh there was three families, which was my my uncle, my uncle's family. We had two uncles, it was just three families in one. It was uncles and then my parents, and then I was the only boy. There were uh two girls. So in Spanish, a niño means the like kid, like boy, like boy. Okay, okay. So I'm thinking that I'm thinking of the storm. I'm thinking of the big story. Yeah, yeah, that's that's my thing. Because it works. That's what it works. That's the baby boy, that's the baby faces around me. Yeah, so they to get my attention, they'll call me Nino. So I just like turn around, and then that's what it was. And then with time, you know, it just it just fit perfectly, you know, that that people think that I'm that I that I look younger than what I usually am. Yeah, and it just like everything just like fitting perfectly. Yeah, actually, like yesterday, no, what was it yesterday? On Saturday, I went to some fights on Saturday. And um, I was talking to some guy, and he was like, he's like, How old are you? Like you're like 22, 23. I was like, nah, nah. I was like, I'm 27. He's like, oh, he's like, oh shit, you're 27. And I was like, yeah, yeah. He's like, damn, you look really young for your age. I was like, nah, I was like, I appreciate it. I was like, thank you. Yeah, but yes, Google me, man. It just happens, yo. Nah, but like, like I that's what I mean. Like you're you're your your name fit, like Nino Fit. And then the store, like the whole name, yeah. Like what it was like meant to be. Yeah, it's crazy, right? I don't I don't know if you guys seen um I'm I'm I I did uh I'm working with the saucer card company, and they they um they made a commercial with the whole hurricane El Nino. And did you post that? Yeah, yeah, we posted, yeah, yeah. I saw that. I saw that. Yeah, it's a whole commercial thing with the with the whole with the whole hurricane calling it El Nino. So you know it's just it just fits out perfectly, yeah. You you working with a lot of brands, yeah. He's got all the sponsors over there. Smart, smart.

Degree, Sponsors, And Life After Boxing

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Uh so speaking of smart though, you you have a college degree too, right? You have a bachelor's. Yes, yes. I I graduated from Casey San Mardino. Uh graduated as a business administration, concentrated in in real estate. And uh yeah, yeah, just for you know, maybe in the future, you know, I got me you know selling properties or or even renting them, you know, just just for a business on the side. Smart, can't get punched forever. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Boxing is really short, a short career. Yeah, I try and do it forever. Do you do you box full time though in the all like when you're off out of camp? Like when you're strictly boxing, no work though, no side work or no, no side. Yeah, I I do straight boxing. Boxing is my number one thing. You know, I when I'm not, let's say I I fight, I take maybe two weeks off and then back to the gym. You know, it's if it's either if it's either lifting weights or boxing or a combination of both, running mountains, you know, just to keep it, just to keep the the conditioning going and staying ready. A lot of the champions we talk to, uh, I'm learning anyway, you know, that that the champions, the the real champions, not the weird belts, the real champions, uh they they don't have side gigs. This is the gig, you know. So that's that's what I'm I'm learning here. So you say you still stay at um your regular uh regular like El Nino house, right? Yeah. Yeah, we've been living here for about 24 years now. That's good. Yeah, same. See, that's how you stay. He stayed, and would you just uh use your money to rebuild it, probably? Yeah, yeah. Uh we we did restorations, we done a bunch of stuff instead of moving out. So that's the same out. If I'm hearing this, right? That's the same house you were talking about with the uncles. Yeah, with the uncles, yeah, yeah. Everybody moved out, and it's just me and my family. Yeah, wow, that's sick. That's why that's why he didn't, he don't got no other job. He didn't move out yet. Yeah, but he's the provider, man. He's the provider, yeah. I mean I'm helping out, I'm helping out. Yeah, it's you know, in today's, especially in today's economy, you know, it's really expensive. So it's just especially Cali. Is it still mad? It's still three families in there, though. No, no, no. It's just it's just uh it's just my parents and my family. Yeah, uncle out, man. Oh Theo, uh Dio gotta go. Oh that's about that's about to be Willie, though, with the way Willie's popping out kids over here. Um, that's awesome though. That's awesome. Because you know, every everyone thinks it's like the house they grew up in, wherever they grew up, like being a kid. I wish I had. It's hard, it's hard to get rid of,

How A 10-Year-Old Found Boxing

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you know. It's like sentimental. Um, that's that's sick. Now, does anyone else in your family box? No, my I'm the first the first person to ever find the family. How'd you get into it? And the baby boy, that's crazy. So my dad, he owns a tire shop in Bloomington. Um got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're back. We're back. I lost you. Sorry. Something something's going on with this. Uh but you were saying you we lost you at your um your dad owned a tire shop in here. Yeah, so my dad owns a tire shop. He um we were just just chilling one night, they were playing poker. We were I was just out there watching. I was 10 years old at that time, and uh my dad's friend pulls up, and his kid has um he had like his hand wraps on. And my dad asks him, he's like, hey, like, what's wrong with your kid? What happened to him? And my dad and my dad's friend was like, no, no, no, he he we just came from the boxing gym. And uh he had those are his hand wraps. And then my dad looks and we're about the same, same size me and his and my dad's friend, his kid. And he's like, hey, you we are you down to get down? Yeah, are you down to fight him? And I was like, Yeah. And then my dad's friend was like, no, no, no, he can't fight outside the ring, you know. Uh go sign him up at the boxing gym. And they could um they could do this thing called sparring, you know, headgear, protect the mouth guard, gloves, and and everything I'll protect and you know, make everything official. And my dad's like, you're done? I was like, Yeah. And uh my dad was my dad's a fan of boxing, he's always watched it. And my family, like my whole family, but he they never got into it. You know, signed me up two weeks later, two weeks of training, I I get in the ring and I sparred the kid, and and ever since then I just I liked it. And then yeah, I stuck with it, and then uh started winning tournaments. You know, I started getting everything started getting more serious and and uh and just you know one time I became professional and then two time world champion now. Two time world champion, man. Two time two away, two away. So you you got the fight coming up. That's awesome, bro. You and that was real quick, I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, they that they got postponed back. Yeah, I'm I'm not sure. I'm either from July or or August, I think. Okay. Okay. Uh so that and that was still like in the same area where you live now when that kid with the hand wraps came up. Yeah. My dad still has the same tire shop in Bloomington, yes. That is crazy. No wonder he's got all these sponsors, bro. He's the goat out there. He's the goat. Uh that's that's sick, man. Good for you. And and I I like to hear that the family is still important. The family's tight knit and still together. Because sometimes with with champions and money and fame, and you're on TV or you're going overseas, winning fights, and it it kind of you know causes a ruckus in the family. There's envy, drama, but you you seem to still have it all together, man. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, everything's all good. You know, family, family comes first, and then uh everything's comes later, you know, first health and everything, but we are we all having a good time and just living the moment what it is. Sick, man. And and you're you're always on weight, like because you said you train all the time, so you're always on weight weight. Yeah, I'm always close to weight. Yeah, always close to weight. You know, just not when I'm in training, I try to focus more on the fight, more on the tact, the plan that my trainer has going on. And then the weight just you know, it falls with the whole training, not not even not really on a diet, just you know, just focusing on the plan. Yeah, that's sick, man. That that's a plus for you because you know the weight cut as we see in boxing, and obviously you see it's crazy. That takes a lot out of people, and that makes sense because he he's always you know, he's like a second half fighter, and he in those second halves is when you really come on. So no, no weight cut for him. But that's awesome, man. Uh we won't take up any more of your time. You probably got it. What time is it over there? Uh it's early. Do you work?

Training Rhythm, Coaching, And Commentary

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6'10 right now. You you work out what three times a day? I work out twice a day. Yeah, twice a day. Twice a day. So did you you had your second workout or uh no? I'm about to go go go out for a run in a bit. But how many miles? Uh uh today, because today was Monday. Today was more yeah, today was a light sparring because I don't really have a fight. So we're just trying to recuperate. Today I'll probably remember like four or five miles. Okay. So light light sparring, is that like like is it supposed to be light? And then you know, maybe if they're tagging you a little bit. Yeah, uh more uh like today I didn't because today I just uh went to the gym, did some mitts, and then just worked out with um some kids right there with uh with um some amateur kids just to work out, you know, them throwing at me. I'm just working on my defense, and uh it's awesome. No, just get just get the feel going and staying active. I used to love that in the gym when like a pro would come. I never had like a world champion come, so these kids are luckier than me. But when a pro would come and then you you'd go with him, he'd be working on defense, build your confidence up, like, yeah, I have a bit alright. You definitely be in the gym with those kids too. That's definitely a uh good look. How they feel that you're a champion in the gym. Do they be like, yo, you know, are they stand out? They prayed. In the beginning, when I had one the titles, yeah, because I I took them, you know, just to show the work that I put in, and we got you know, we got it done. And they were like, oh Carlo, we need a picture, we need a picture. And I was like, Yeah, let's take it. And then we all here with the belts and everything. But now it's you know, back to reality, everything just chill, and and I pull up and just train regular. You know, nothing, nothing major now. You think about coaching afterwards, like uh you just I don't know. Just go on. I don't I I like they had told me I don't know, I don't know about doing mitts, but I do like giving instructions like uh like oh hey, inspire like RCS, like try this, you try to do that, but not really, not really with the whole meds thing, and yeah, yeah. But I don't know, I don't know with time, maybe, maybe it'll change. I'm not sure. What about what about ringside on the mic? I saw you did that recently too. Yeah, I did um my first comment, I did it commentating for the first time, and and I was really I was really nervous. I'm not gonna lie. I was really nervous. You did good though, you didn't know. But you know, with time, maybe after like the first fight, you know, everything was like I calmed down and then uh got the got the like the gist of it and uh it was pretty cool at the end. Really tiring though. I didn't thought it was that tiring, it was really tiring. Yeah, after like yeah, after like I think I did like five hours after like the fourth hour, I was I was done already. I was like, nah. That's a lot of fighting, too. Yeah, especially if the fight born like this type of style of fight, and you gotta get it. Exactly. It's like, oh, look at I feel like it was too repetitive. I was like, oh, there goes a good jab. It's like, oh, the right jab. Oh, look at having control the fight. Yeah, it was a little job. Did you listen back? Never listen back when we do a podcast. I never listen back because I'm like, ah, it's so stupid. Why'd I yeah, I don't, I don't, yeah, I don't I don't like watching myself talk. So each time I there's like a theme, I was like, right away I take it away. And my mom was like, Oh, did you watch? He was like, my mom's like, Did you watch what you said? This and I was like, Nah, don't even show me. I was like, nah. All right, well, when I chop this stuff up and post it, just like it. Yeah, I just yeah, I give it, I give it a quick like a little uh some comment, and then a little sharing. That's it. That's all we ask, man. That's all we are. Nah, but with that being said, man, thanks for coming on the show. You gotta go run. Um, yo, thanks for wearing the shirt. We were so drunk that night. I don't even know if we can get you, but I'm glad we did, man. No, because we like left them so we had them to us. He was like, yo, this is your stuff. Yo, damn, we just left the shirts everywhere. We were just fucking joked. Yo, we had a good time. Um, if we can, and and I tell everyone we interview, man, because you've seen us as fans, so you know we get a little crazy. Uh, and I I've been to Cali for fights. Unfortunately, they got canceled last minute when I landed. But uh, I'm I'm willing to go to Cali. So so when you do get a fight announcement, especially you know, the bigger the better. Um, one of us, hopefully both of us, but one of us will be there for sure now, guaranteed. For sure. Uh that's how that's our way of giving back. Not much, but you know, we'll probably get kicked out and beat up in Cali, but it's all right. Hey, people people enjoy inside inside the ring fights and outside the ring fights. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you see did you see Texas uh in Oshaki versus um I did not watch it. I was at the I went I was at the fights uh they had here in LA. So I wasn't able to watch it, but then I I did see there he got thrown out the ring or something, huh? Yeah, yeah, it was a little weird. I don't know if it was thrown, but he's gonna be like, yeah, he got loaded. Like yeah, he probably threw himself out there and just make it a little more exaggerating. Yeah. The more I watch it, I'm like, he didn't throw him, but the fights outside the ring, they were a bunch. There's a lot of emotions in that one. I didn't see that fights outside the ring, yeah. A lot. Texas. Again, though, we won't take up any more time with our with our BS. Thank you for coming on the show, man. Always grateful. Uh fans for life now. And I mean that, man. I'm gonna come down here. Yeah, appreciate you. He's got the curve. All right, man. Thank you so much again.