Boxing’s Wild Weekend: Foster’s Clinic, Pitbull’s Draw, And Pacheco’s Risk

Two friends break down a wild PBC night: Foster’s technical schooling of Fulton, a muddled WBC belt situation, Pitbull vs Roach ending in a heavily disputed draw, and a risky test ahead for Diego Pacheco. We also preview a women’s bout with real knockout power and plan for Teo vs Shakur at MSG in NYC.

• Foster’s jab-first clinic against Fulton and why it worked
• Fulton missing weight and what that did to the stakes
• WBC interim confusion and fan frustration
• Ramos’ steady pressure and Mosley Jr.’s durability
• Lara’s late surge versus early coasting at 42
• Pitbull Cruz pressure, Roach’s pocket choices, and the draw
• Tank’s comeback talk and potential opponents
• Teofimo vs Shakur at MSG and travel plans
• Pacheco’s dangerous opponent profile and betting angles
• Women’s power hitters: Jasmine Artiga’s KO intent

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Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Open, Banter, And Sponsor
• 4:40 Card Overview And Guest Drop-In
• 17:40 Foster Versus Fulton: The Jab Clinic
• 29:30 WBC Confusion And Belt Politics
• 36:40 Ramos Vs Mosley Jr. And Lara’s Night
• 46:00 Pitbull Cruz Vs Lamont Roach: The Draw
• 58:20 Tank’s Return Talk And Rematch Noise
• 1:04:30 Teofimo Vs Shakur At MSG Plans

Transcript

SPEAKER_02: 0:01

It's time for the main event. It's the sparing podcast.

SPEAKER_03: 0:13

What up, y'all? Welcome to the Spar Inboxing Podcast. We are live on TikTok, live on Instagram, and live on YouTube. We are back. Wow. Willie and I were just ripping some shods. That was pretty good. What up, Willie? What up, what up? Puma, what's good, baby? What's good?

SPEAKER_01: 0:31

How was the the weekend?

SPEAKER_03: 0:32

Oh, the weekend, the band, they're alright. Um, you know, I'm not too much of a big fan of them, but what's their hit? Wait, what? The weekend. What's their hit song? Roses really smell like poo. Nah, is that them? Nah.

SPEAKER_01: 0:46

Whoa. Did you just say outcast?

SPEAKER_03: 0:51

Oh, outcast, fuck.

SPEAKER_01: 0:52

What? The weekend is a is an artist. One of the artists.

SPEAKER_03: 0:57

His name is The Weeknd?

SPEAKER_01: 0:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 0:59

Oh, he is. He did the Super Bowl, right? On a weekend. How ironic.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04

Yo, alright.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06

Spar in Boxing Podcast. We are here. We are here. We are not here to talk about music. Uh, we're gonna talk about all things boxing. But before we get started, this podcast is powered by Empire Nutrition on Long Island. Get your meals, get your supplements. I love their juices, keeps my liver going. As I said, we took some shots. I'm drinking as usual on the weekend.

SPEAKER_01: 1:25

You had to go get some drinks tomorrow, huh?

SPEAKER_03: 1:27

Yeah, I get them juices, man. Cleanse. Cleanse that juice, huh? My doo doo was red. I thought my butt was bleeding, but it was them beets. It was the beet juice.

SPEAKER_01: 1:36

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:38

And I'm picking up your meals tomorrow, Willie. Oh, word. Five free meals uh on them. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01: 1:45

Appreciate you, man. I'm about to try that out. I'm gonna get on my uh good behavior this week.

SPEAKER_03: 1:49

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SPEAKER_01: 2:14

Yeah, we got something to eat now. Now we just gotta work out.

SPEAKER_03: 2:17

Yeah, we we gotta do that other part.

SPEAKER_00: 2:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 2:19

All good though. Um, you know that these boxers this weekend, they worked out. Everyone came in shape except for one man. One man, yeah, one man did not come in shape. Um, anyway, this is the Spar Inboxing Podcast, all things boxing. We are here to talk about with you today the PBC card from this weekend. We had Lamont Roach versus Isaac Pitbull Cruz as the main event. We are gonna touch on Eris Landry Laura versus that dude. And we are doing this on Oshaki Foster versus Steven Fulton. Man, I'm I'm excited about that one. I can't wait to yap about that one. About the yap and go off. We are gonna touch on Jesus Ramos Jr., Shane Mosley Jr. No, yeah, Shane Mosley Jr. versus Jesus Ramos. Um and Frank Martin, man, versus Rancus Barthelemy. Where do you want to begin? Oh, we also are gonna preview a little bit of Diego Pacheco and our friend of the show, thanks to Willie. Met her on a cruise.

SPEAKER_01: 3:18

Yeah, oh shit, but I didn't I didn't even look up who she fighting.

SPEAKER_03: 3:22

Um it's okay. We'll we'll still preview her.

SPEAKER_01: 3:25

I think I think this is kind of like she's gonna come on after the uh her fight. Yeah, Jasmine Artiga, the animal. That's a cool nickname. That's fire. Uh she's a beast, bro. Like ripped. She stay ripped, always in shape.

SPEAKER_03: 3:37

Stay ripped, like rippied, like me. She's like rippied all the time, but like but like physically, not drunk.

SPEAKER_01: 3:44

Like when we was on a cruise, she was in a dress, ripped as hell.

SPEAKER_03: 3:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 3:49

On a cruise, her first cruise ever. Her first vacation.

SPEAKER_03: 3:52

Yeah, we gotta get her on the show. But before that, uh stay tuned next week. Another female boxing friend of ours is coming on the show Sunday, Sunday night. Uh that's gonna be a good one. She was supposed to come this weekend, but we we couldn't record Sunday.

SPEAKER_01: 4:06

Oh, it's fun.

SPEAKER_03: 4:06

Yeah, um, I'm gonna put a little promo together for that too. Uh yeah, but let's just get right into it, I guess, man. Um actually, before that, where why couldn't you why couldn't we interview her this weekend? Where were you?

SPEAKER_01: 4:18

Huh? Oh, me? Oh, oh yeah. Oh yeah. I was in Kentucky, man. I was in Kentucky. Oh, did you go?

SPEAKER_03: 4:24

There's like an Ali museum there.

SPEAKER_01: 4:26

No, oh my god, I didn't go. No. I see Ali all over the airport. Yeah, yeah. His airport is named after him. Yeah. He's all over there. I didn't go see it, man. That's crazy. I wasn't even thinking. Yeah, you should have said something because I was over there busy trying to find barbecue. Did you? Yes, yo, that shit was so good. That's good. I had some brisket. Oh my god, barbecue brisket, barbecue um short ribs. Damn. Oh man, that's the last day. But shout out to um no CJA, man. Cheer, man. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03: 5:02

Let me hear a chair.

SPEAKER_01: 5:04

Um CJA. We don't play. I got it. Yeah, boom. There's nothing more. Well, that's all I know. I just whip out the phone, bro. Yo, they what they won. They won first place. Cali and them won first place. Bomb squad. Um, like the damn, the whole um, the whole gym damn near won first place. Almost. Okay. Yeah, and it got grand champs, Cali team, so that means another uh competition I'm gonna have to pay for to go to.

SPEAKER_03: 5:38

So I don't know if we're live on Instagram. It says we are, but I don't think it's working. Whatever. We're live on TikTok, live on YouTube.

SPEAKER_01: 5:46

Uh yeah, that shit was crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_03: 5:49

Fuck. I'm sorry, y'all.

SPEAKER_01: 5:51

Trying to trying to figure this out. Yeah, damn, that's crazy. Instagram is fucked up again. Mm-hmm. Every day in time. Yeah, but uh if y'all have daughters, don't put them in chair because this shit is too much. Expensive? No, but this jersey, yo, they do not play. Central Jersey chair do not play, bro. They didn't like we have to support every team. Every team we had to support. Every team. So we didn't, it's no fun. It had to be so it's gonna be instead of saying we oh you gotta like it's like yo, Fred. That's why I told I told uh my baby mother said instead of we don't play, it mean we don't enjoy anything because we're not enjoying the times we go to these places, Tennessee, bro. We is not gonna be able to enjoy nothing because we had to stay there and and support every team, which is cool.

SPEAKER_03: 6:41

Oh, so you gotta like when you're if your team moves.

SPEAKER_01: 6:44

We was there, Calig didn't have to perform until 6 30 at night. We was there since nine in the morning.

unknown: 6:51

Ah, damn.

SPEAKER_01: 6:52

Where'd you watch the fights? Uh uh I fell asleep. I paid for it, fell asleep during uh Shocky and uh What? Yes, that shit was so boring.

SPEAKER_03: 7:06

Yo, I fell asleep during the Lara fight too. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_01: 7:08

So I went out to dinner, I missed the Laura fight was before Shock fight before I I watched I watched that fight. I couldn't stay up, bro, because we was up there, we was up until you know. I wake up early. Was it before?

SPEAKER_03: 7:21

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 7:21

Yeah, it was. I wake up early, birds. So I'm like um 6 a.m. And then Callie had to wake up at 7. And then they doing their whole makeup thing, and I went to breakfast, and then bro, we're real, you're a real like girl dad.

SPEAKER_03: 7:38

I'm so happy for you, bro.

SPEAKER_01: 7:39

I'm about to have another one. She do not like chair, bro.

SPEAKER_03: 7:43

Nah, she's gonna like boxing.

SPEAKER_01: 7:45

Right? That'd be we have a girl boxer.

SPEAKER_03: 7:48

I need it, man.

SPEAKER_01: 7:49

I don't got kids, so try again. Callie Kelly got them long arms, yeah. And she's left-handed. So fuck you, chicks up. She's strong as hell, too. Yeah. Because she got that chair strength lifting them girls up, but she don't want to fight. She's a girl girl. She's normal. She's a girl girl. She likes everything. She thinks girls run the world. Nah, you don't want her to fight. No, she's too fight. She's too gorgeous, bro.

SPEAKER_03: 8:12

Where do you want to start though, with this uh PBC card? What do you want to talk about first? We got Lamont Roads.

SPEAKER_01: 8:17

We have to start with Frank Martin just popping out of nowhere. Okay.

unknown: 8:21

Who?

SPEAKER_03: 8:21

Oh my goodness. What the hell is that? Oh my, oh my. Hold on. We have a guest. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 8:28

Who's that? Punch?

SPEAKER_03: 8:29

Yeah. What's up?

SPEAKER_01: 8:31

I can't even see. I know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03: 8:33

We have a new like format here. Where are you? Are you in? Hold on.

SPEAKER_01: 8:37

He is free. Free at last. Hold on.

SPEAKER_03: 8:40

Nah, nah. I'm still here. I'm in the building right now. Look at this.

SPEAKER_01: 8:43

I can't see. I can't wait.

SPEAKER_03: 8:46

We have like a new format because they they messed it up with the Instagram, but but they could hear you. This is punchlines. I don't know if they can see him though. I know. I don't think they could see you. Hold on. Hold on. Can you guys see me? Yeah, yeah. I see you guys.

SPEAKER_01: 8:59

I see a little box of you though. I can't see like that. Like before, like we used to.

SPEAKER_03: 9:04

Edit. Oh, what? I don't know how to do it. Hold on. Oh, yeah, he's not on here on TikTok. Uh, yeah, but yo, speak. Speak. We hear you. Okay. What's up? What's up? What's up? Yeah, so like the this the system I use changed the format and stuff to make it better for Instagram. So uh like to make it flat screen so it's all or like vertical. So it's all banged up. It's not you, it's it's us. I just don't know how to I don't know how to edit on the fly yet. But what up, man? Yo, look at you all hairy and shit. Bro, just chilling, dude.

SPEAKER_05: 9:38

Look, I fucked my hand up. How'd you do that?

SPEAKER_01: 9:41

You was punching somebody?

SPEAKER_05: 9:42

No, dude. Friday night we had the uh Mountain West Championship against UNLV, and we didn't have to work, we just got to be fans.

SPEAKER_03: 9:50

Oh nice.

SPEAKER_05: 9:51

Got blacked out.

SPEAKER_03: 9:52

I was gonna say you got drunk, didn't you?

SPEAKER_05: 9:54

We won when we won the game. I jumped, uh I jumped the fence and I got caught on the fence and like cut up my hand pretty bad. Damn. Yeah, dude, the team trainers had to sew my hand up.

SPEAKER_00: 10:04

Alright.

SPEAKER_05: 10:05

At least you had them to do that. I know it was pretty fun though. Hold on, I think this is.

SPEAKER_01: 10:10

It was pretty fun though. Alright.

SPEAKER_05: 10:13

They were stupid. Only talk for a little bit.

SPEAKER_03: 10:17

Yo, you're there. There you are. You see you? There he is.

SPEAKER_01: 10:22

I don't see him on TikTok.

SPEAKER_03: 10:24

I see him. He's coming, it's loading. Damn, dude. Wait, what'd you punch?

SPEAKER_05: 10:30

No, I didn't punch anything. I got caught on the fence when I jumped it when we stormed the door.

SPEAKER_03: 10:34

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_05: 10:36

Yeah, shit was deep. Are you like full time there yet? No, I'm still just a uh personality intern. Okay. Okay, but I mean I'm putting in like 50 hours a week. That's sick, dude. Keep doing it, bro.

SPEAKER_03: 10:48

That's that's like an awesome gig. Yeah, it's funny shit. Is there like um uh never mind, we're on the air. We're live. Ladies and gentlemen, this is friend of the show. Pretty much a co-host punchlines.

SPEAKER_01: 10:59

Move them to the middle or something.

SPEAKER_05: 11:01

I just wanted to hop in real quick because I gotta go. We're like we gotta we gotta staff meeting like 10 minutes, but I ain't been on in a little bit.

SPEAKER_03: 11:06

What what was your favorite fight of the PBC card? We're about to get into it. He's on the Instagram though.

SPEAKER_05: 11:11

Kind of hard not to say Ramos Mosley, yeah, yeah, definitely action-wise. And yeah, I I loved Frank Martin's knockout because you guys know I'm a big Frank Martin fan. Yep, Frank Fartin.

SPEAKER_01: 11:21

Frank Fartin.

SPEAKER_04: 11:22

Uh I liked Fart. I liked the tank roach fight. Don't like the result. Tank Roach or fucking roach.

SPEAKER_03: 11:35

Roach fight. It was Roach Pitbull, Roach Pitbull. I didn't like the result either, I agree. But for me, man, and we're about to talk about it. Once you pop off, we'll I'll just go off on my rant. But as you know, I'm a big Oshaki Foster fan, so I know it wasn't the most exciting fight because Oshaki made it that way. But that was my favorite fight of the night because he he shut a lot of people up, man.

SPEAKER_05: 11:54

But yeah, including the fucking guy doing the interviews after the fight, because he's how how you saw that too, right?

SPEAKER_03: 12:02

We were talking about that. Bro, oh yeah, that's that's true. We were talking about it. Dude, that's my gripe with like the PBC. Did you see after the fight? No. Oshaki. I'm waiting for what Oshaki's like a big that's a crazy weight division. It's WBC, like Oshaki is is now uh solidified himself as a problem, even though I thought he was anyway, but now it's official, he's a problem, and then it just went straight to like the next fight, which is you never see. They just rushed him off the stage.

SPEAKER_05: 12:29

No interviews, nothing, nothing.

SPEAKER_01: 12:31

It was after that beautiful work he did. Yeah, like he really just really just boxed beautiful, just boxed the shit out of the motherfucker. Like, that was crazy. Bolton had nothing, had nothing, couldn't even do nothing. He called he was cool, boy. He's he was frustration. It wasn't cool in there. He was not cool in that motherfucker.

SPEAKER_05: 12:52

Yeah, his face was busted to shit.

SPEAKER_01: 12:54

Only thing he was cool was his his his fit because he always had some fire fit.

SPEAKER_03: 12:59

He had the he had the beef and broccoli, the tin fire he had the he had the new, yeah, is that what they call it? Beef and broccoli. I like that. Yeah, you know that I want I want a pair of those. I got you, I got you. Uh, but yeah, I mean, I I just I like to see it. And you know what? Shame on Fulton, man. He like we'll just get into it. Fuck it. Shame on Fulton because he first he misses weight, right? He talks all this this jazz about I'm gonna be a three-weight champ, I can't wait, three-weight champ, three-weight champ.

SPEAKER_01: 13:26

Gilly the kid following, yeah, Gilly the kid backing him, fucking Cameron, all the yeah, misses weight, and then his whole tune changes.

SPEAKER_03: 13:34

Oh nah, you know, it's whatever. I'm here to fight, I'm probably gonna move up anyway. Like, what? Now you're flip-flopping, and then in in typical boxing fashion, they still just make up a belt and they're like, Yeah, this is for an intern belt now, even if he wins.

SPEAKER_01: 13:49

Like, what? Yeah, they know that they it's crazy. They did some like weird shit that make it an intern bite for um 135. Yeah, so now I guess Oshaki is a so Oshaki can fight 135 or or 175.

SPEAKER_03: 14:06

WBC is wild, wild, bro. Wild, crazy, but I think the PBC in this case had a lot to do with it, you know, they take care of their own. But like the only person he'd fight with that belt is Shakur, and he's not getting that fight. Yeah, yeah. Like it it it doesn't make any sense. Who who Oshaki? Yeah, yeah, but I don't know. We don't, and that's another thing, like there's confusion now because what is Oshaki or what is Shakur doing? Is Shakur 140? Yeah, the the TO fights at 140. So win or lose.

SPEAKER_05: 14:35

If he wins at 140, he's staying at 140.

SPEAKER_03: 14:37

Yeah, 100%. But like usually when you go up, it's a lot harder to go back down, even if he he loses. That's yeah, fucks people up.

SPEAKER_05: 14:43

Honestly, not related, but I haven't been on here for a while. I would have brought it up after the Canelo fight, which by the way, shout out to Willie. The only I didn't forget, the only person that called Bud winning that.

SPEAKER_01: 14:55

Thank you, Punch. I appreciate that, man. Boost my ego out, this motherfucker.

SPEAKER_05: 15:03

But uh I would I would have said like because I don't like when fighters go up and come back down, especially when they start to get around 30 or over. And I honestly think that has part like when Canelo went up to the fight Beav, he looked he really ain't looked the same since.

SPEAKER_03: 15:19

But not at all. I don't think I don't think he's looked the same for quite some time. Like I like it, it's well that was the fight right after Plant. Plant was the last time we saw Canelo. Exactly. I I agree, and then he was like, it was just that one plotting weird. Yeah. You think there's gonna be a rematch with that? I know that they're saying I hope not.

SPEAKER_05: 15:40

I mean from a fan's perspective, I hope not.

SPEAKER_03: 15:45

I think I think it might happen only because of the the money and like the money that generates.

SPEAKER_01: 15:52

Like, but it's like it's not even undisputed no more. I think Bud beats him worse in the second fight.

SPEAKER_03: 15:57

Yeah, I I I think so too. I could I could agree with that. But if if Canelo does it, like I don't Canelo never had like a reason to fight, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05: 16:05

Yeah, but in a long time, not much different he can do.

SPEAKER_03: 16:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 16:09

He's so limited at this point. But I got I do gotta head out to this meeting. I just want to say what's up to y'all.

SPEAKER_03: 16:16

All right, college boy. You're going to a little frat party, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 16:19

Oh, it's a personnel meeting.

SPEAKER_03: 16:21

Oh, damn. All right, yo, stay in touch, man. Welcome anytime. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, stop, stop hopping fences, bro.

SPEAKER_05: 16:27

Yeah, I'm done, bro. That was bad. That's all right. Ruined my goddamn hoodie, too. I pour my hoodie to shit. And my nice sweatpants, my favorite sweatpants. Damn, you really didn't clear it. Alcohol. No, it just got much on my body, dude, too. Alcohol. I mean, I cleared it. It just bro, I had I had to go through 12 rounds of hell to get over that fucking thing.

SPEAKER_03: 16:47

It's all right, dude. I'm I'm 35 now, and uh I found out recently I slept at a friend's house, went back to my hometown. This place is my pants.

SPEAKER_01: 16:55

This might be the first time I'll ever say, stop doing black people shit. Because that's he did that on purpose?

SPEAKER_02: 17:05

That was that was that was very wait to hell on.

SPEAKER_03: 17:12

I don't know what's going on, but you're just blacked out on purpose. All right, bro. Keep in touch. I'll see you.

SPEAKER_05: 17:18

Later, guys.

SPEAKER_03: 17:20

Well, that was a pleasant surprise. I haven't heard from our guy in a while. Crazy, bro. Um, let me see if I can get this screen back. I sort of fixed it. All right, boom. All right, but yeah, you know, let's just keep it rolling. Um, back on that Oshaki, Oshaki uh what's it called? Um Fulton. Yeah, because I because I have some stuff.

SPEAKER_01: 17:40

You have some lot of stuff to say. That's your boy, man. Go ahead, chop it up, bro. Chop it up.

SPEAKER_03: 17:45

And again, I like I said to punch, shame on shame on on Fulton, man. He he had a really good opportunity here. A lot of people had a 50-50 fight. Oshaki Foster came in as an underdog, as usual. And and this is what's annoying with me. It's time to put some respect on Oshaki Foster's name. Yeah, he's the underdog in every single fight, even the ones he lost, it's close, and it could go either way. Yeah, and the the last one that he lost, he didn't lose. Everyone thinks he didn't lose. So, so enough is enough. I don't know what this man did, I don't know what he did to the media. He just can't catch a break, it seems, with the media. And Texas is a big ass state, Texas is uh has real boxing fans. Like, what is going on with that? And I have no idea, man, but it's just it's just disheartening.

SPEAKER_01: 18:31

I mean, and he he don't even he always take the high road, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 18:36

Yo, that's why I love password, you too. Salute.

SPEAKER_01: 18:38

I love about um foster, he takes the high road on everything, like he don't have uh stoop down to the level, like you know what I'm saying? And dude, he boxed beautifully, like it was so technical, and it's like yo, you can see the frustrated cool boy was not cool no more.

SPEAKER_03: 18:56

No, put put some respect on his name, man. Oshaki Foster, dude.

SPEAKER_01: 19:00

He well, he put he put Cool Boy in a sauna, dude. Cause he was sweating bullets.

SPEAKER_03: 19:06

There's there's an old trainer, George Benton, right? And he's he's famous, and Anthony Joshua said it too, and kind of reinitiated the the fame of it. But it said he said, uh a right hand can take you around the block, but a jab will take you around the world. Yeah, where's George Benton from? Philly. What did Oshaki do to the Philly fighter? Showed the Philly shell. Some say George Benton created the Philly shell. Yeah, what did he do? Exactly that, dude. That jab was on the shakes from Philly, no, no, Fulton. I'm saying versus the Phil and uh versus the Philly fighter. Benton trained guys like Holyfield, Purnell Whitaker. So Benton's the real deal, and Oshaki Oshaki would have made him proud versus the Philly fighter. That's the irony of it.

SPEAKER_01: 19:47

Um that jab was fucking crazy, dude. Sharp, bro, sharp. He he did everything behind the jab, everything behind the jab. He did not lead a jab out.

SPEAKER_03: 19:57

Yo, he never was on the ropes, he wasn't on the The ropes once, and whenever he felt the ropes, he felt it coming.

SPEAKER_01: 20:03

Flip out right in the middle.

SPEAKER_03: 20:05

Jab jab. Boom. Philly shell. Uh-uh. I saw him get hit clean twice. He pitched a fucking shutout, dude.

SPEAKER_01: 20:10

Damn man.

SPEAKER_03: 20:11

Nine innings in baseball shutout. He did he went 12 innings, not one hit. I'll give him the first round I gave to Fulton.

SPEAKER_01: 20:21

It was a feel out round. He smoked him bad. He smoked him. It's like it felt like he was way bigger than him. Uh just he just couldn't reach him. Like, and then he would he would never overreach. Yo, Shock was so sharp. He would never overreach. It's crazy. So that he he would throw defensively sound. Yes, he would never overreach. His his back foot was always in front. And then you can see that um Fulton was reaching. Like he couldn't even make it.

SPEAKER_03: 20:47

He didn't know what to do. He was confused. He was like, What the fuck? And then the 12th round, right? Shock says, okay. Tries to go for the stoppage in the 12th. Let's his hands fly more. And he was still piecing him up. It was beautiful, beautiful boxing. Yes, for the common eye and sleepy heads. It was boring, but Oshaki just beat a real top 10, top five guy and made him look top 30, top 40. So it was crazy. And I'm just so happy for him. Put some respect on my guy's name.

SPEAKER_01: 21:16

Put some respect on Shockman. He shocked the world.

SPEAKER_03: 21:19

He listened. He listened.

SPEAKER_01: 21:20

Yeah. Yeah. He definitely listened to the podcast. Yeah, that hair, bro, was bundled up. It wouldn't even move. Like it went. I think it went. I seen once in the fight that ended up in the front. Like once his hair like flew over. Like you said, oh, he did something to his hair, but you didn't know that. He really just bundled it up. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't know. He wrapped it up.

SPEAKER_03: 21:43

It was like a thick, thick, a thick, short nub. Yeah. Stubby.

unknown: 21:47

Poor.

SPEAKER_03: 21:48

Gurcy. Alright, yeah. It was though, bro. I'm looking like, oh, he cut it. At least he, but it worked. It worked. He didn't cut it. It wasn't cut. It wasn't flat.

SPEAKER_01: 21:56

Yeah, he just wrapped it up and used that um tape that you use on those hand wraps.

SPEAKER_03: 22:00

Oh, again, I I can't say it enough, dude. He he would have I love that it was versus a Philly fighter. He would have made George Benton proud. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 22:08

He really boxed the shit out.

SPEAKER_03: 22:10

It was that was a that was a Philadelphia style boxing clinic versus the Philadelphia Fighters.

SPEAKER_01: 22:16

He out threw him. He out deep like his defense was on point. Sharp. He was not playing. Like he was like toying with him. It was like a sparring match to him.

SPEAKER_03: 22:26

That's the first thing that came to my mind. I'm gonna say it again. A right hand can take you around the block, but a jab will take you around the world. A la George Benton, man. That was he literally, it was like he it was like he watched his video training videos and was like, okay, this is how I'm gonna box versus the Philly fighter.

SPEAKER_01: 22:41

Jab to share it on 24-7. Everything was behind the jab, like I said. Oh beautiful. Putting everything together. Now this is where things get tricky. He was switching stances on them.

SPEAKER_03: 22:53

This is where things get tricky. I know they they messed it all up with that interim WBC belt to get him the 135. I I don't know what's going on.

SPEAKER_01: 22:59

I don't understand, I didn't understand that at all. How how the WBC be doing these things or I I truly miss Fulton missed weight, and then now is the fight still on. Like, so when I was watching the the uh the weigh-in, Fulton missed weight, and they was like, and and still for the W what BC interim. And imagine you're tuning in. I'm always confused. I'm like, you miss weight, and we're nerd fans.

SPEAKER_03: 23:25

So imagine you tune in, right? You're just tuning in. Oh, I heard this is a good card, this is a big fight. They promoted it fairly well. Yeah, boom. You're you're a UFC fan or whatever, different sport fan. Oh, I heard this was good. You're tuned in, and then like, oh, he missed weight. Shit, he's not gonna he can't fight, he can't win the belt if he wins, but he can win the intern belt. What? Like what? Yeah, like I was so confused. They they shame on the WBC, man. They just continue. Oh, we gotta talk about that too. They just continue to take L's, bro. It's a it's a great belt. The WBC has great history in Bosnia.

SPEAKER_01: 23:59

It's probably the best looking belt.

SPEAKER_03: 24:00

Yeah, for sure. But then we got Terrence Crawford and all the drama with that. Yeah, we can we can get into that too.

SPEAKER_01: 24:05

I'm on Terrence's side too.

SPEAKER_03: 24:07

Me too, man. Me too. And I got a lot of crap in my DMs from from people going off, Canelo sexuals, actually, uh going off about how, like, oh well, now he just can't pay. He doesn't want to pay. I never heard of a championship. Not when it's the principle, bro.

SPEAKER_01: 24:22

It's not even about paying because he paid everybody.

SPEAKER_03: 24:25

Yeah, he they they just they just want more. And then and then um Mauricio Mauricio Solomon goes out and just disrespects him, like like shits on Crawford's name. Yeah. And with the smirk, he was right. He had this like cheesy smirk. So props to Crawford, man. Took a stand. He's like, I got the belt.

SPEAKER_01: 24:44

I paid everybody. You just don't, you want more thinking your belt special.

SPEAKER_03: 24:48

Yeah, just greedy.

SPEAKER_01: 24:49

And then and then, you know, and then Errol Spence. I saw my boy Errol Spencer's like, damn, he was, he should have, he should have said something when I said something. No, it's true. Errol Spencer said some shit too a lot of it. Like, yo, where's his money going? Like, yo, like, where's his money going? Y'all just having big dinners, like, but I um whatever it's so many.

SPEAKER_03: 25:11

He's real, man. Terrence Crawford is hard to hate. You can't hate him.

SPEAKER_01: 25:14

Nah, nah.

SPEAKER_03: 25:15

He's a real dude. He just is who he is, and he's like, Yeah, I'm gonna go get some. What did he say? He was gonna go eat. He said he was going to eat oh, a turkey burger. That was the only thing. Go get a regular burger, dude. You've heard it. Damn turkey burger.

SPEAKER_01: 25:27

He'll eat beef, right? Really? No, he don't eat beef. None of that. I don't think he's a turkey burger. He said he stopped eating beef. I was rooting for it because of his stomach or something. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right.

SPEAKER_03: 25:37

He said he went like on a semi-vegan type diet. Something like that.

SPEAKER_01: 25:41

He said, yo, beef was like Turkey burger. Bait beef was make him constipate it. Ugh, turkey burger? Oh, that's probably why I'll be constipating. I like steak. Ugh. I might eat some steak when my shortly made some steak.

SPEAKER_03: 25:51

Take some metamusle, bro. What the fuck is that? But again, it's like, I don't know, some shit you take in the morning and makes you poop.

SPEAKER_01: 25:58

But I didn't want to poop in the morning. I gotta drive a truck all day.

SPEAKER_03: 26:02

Alright, anyway.

SPEAKER_01: 26:03

Oh, shocking. You know who did poop the bed? Stephen Fulton, man. Yeah, he really does he really did not show up.

SPEAKER_03: 26:10

And like, yo, his uh the trainers, boo boozy Ennis, I believe, was training.

SPEAKER_01: 26:17

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was in there, boots came out.

SPEAKER_03: 26:20

Yeah, a little suspect on he ain't that didn't help. He's good at training his son, but I don't know if he's really he's good at getting guys in shape. And he's motivating, but that didn't he was saying something.

SPEAKER_01: 26:33

I mean, they got they I don't know. Who else he got in his own?

SPEAKER_03: 26:37

I mean, if I was in his corner, right, in like the sixth, seventh round and it looked the way it did, total shutout, domination. You better you better fight like Pitbull Cruz, chin down and just muck it up. Yeah, you got you can't clearly you can't that's how you beat a a skilled fighter like that. You muck it up, yeah. Muck that shit up in the mud. And and he didn't do that, so again, whatever.

SPEAKER_01: 26:59

Um Popster forced it though, man. He handicapped him. I don't know what was the game plan. I want to know exactly what the game plan was.

SPEAKER_03: 27:06

That must have been it, because it and his corner was great. His corner was was perfect, dude. I love I love Oshaki forced, man. He's one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_01: 27:14

Who's in this corner?

SPEAKER_03: 27:15

Like, who's I forget who's what his trainer's name is. I I really do. It's this little white guy, but was saying all the right things. Um it like literally, uh, because you know they showed that in the corner, and he was just saying all he's like, all right, keep controlling, stay in the center, like everything perfect, stay calm, blah, blah, blah. O'Shaki was communicating with him, they were going back and forth.

SPEAKER_01: 27:35

Every round, shock came out the same way. Jab first, boom, boom, and just keeping him at a distance. Jab was keeping him at a distance, deep was all point. Yo, it was crazy. Boy, couldn't have been doing no.

SPEAKER_03: 27:46

Some respect on Oshaki's name, man. They cut out right after. No interview. Come on, dude. This dude's been through every been through hell and back, unbothered. Got robbed of one of the worst robberies I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_01: 27:58

Versus, yeah, shed a tear.

SPEAKER_03: 28:01

Of course he did, bro. He put his heart and soul into it, came back. I think it was the same year or close to, fought him again, got his belt back. Now, Fulton Jr. is is is not a nobody.

SPEAKER_00: 28:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 28:12

Takes that fight. Yo, put some respect on this guy's name, bro.

SPEAKER_01: 28:15

Yeah, he was he was showing up on podcasts and all types of shit. He didn't pull up on his podcast, but he bro, he pulled up on podcasts, yeah. And they was going against him and all that shit. He just he just kept the high role.

SPEAKER_03: 28:29

And you saw he was healthy.

SPEAKER_01: 28:30

Like, and he knows he don't but talk shit. He just like watch. You gonna see? Yeah, and then he he just real too.

SPEAKER_03: 28:37

Like he's real too. He he did some time for some things, and and what he said about Shakur, he's like, I can't fuck with Shakur. He he's hanging out with my enemies. Yeah, and like I like like I like that.

SPEAKER_01: 28:48

So what's next? Do do we want to see that Shakur or we want to see that uh I want him to I want him not Fulton?

SPEAKER_03: 28:54

Well, it it gets weird now because Fulton is it. Nah, because Fult Fulton's done. Like, I don't know what I mean uh not for um There's somebody at 130.

SPEAKER_01: 29:06

Yeah, um whatchamacallit? Damn, that's what's his name. Who um there's Lamont Roach kind of no, no, no, no, like sort of who we we just we seen Raymond Raymond?

SPEAKER_03: 29:19

Yeah who are you talking about? And one 130?

SPEAKER_01: 29:22

Raymond Fulton, right?

SPEAKER_03: 29:24

That's his last name? Fulton Fulton just fought. Raymond Fulton is in the Knicks.

SPEAKER_01: 29:27

Raymond he's fat too, though. Raymond Raymond Fulton's last name, the point guard. Is that his last name? He's fat too. No, we you just we just saw him at the fight. He was and you didn't know what he was gonna say to you.

SPEAKER_03: 29:43

Oh, oh, oh, oh Ray Ford. Ray Ford I'm bugging. Yeah, Ray Ford.

SPEAKER_01: 29:47

Ray Ford, yeah, Ray Ford.

SPEAKER_03: 29:49

I knew what he was gonna say, but he was a very nice guy.

SPEAKER_01: 29:52

Ray Ford, yes, Ray Ford. That is the fight to make because they was beefing Loki.

SPEAKER_03: 29:57

Yeah, but I I want to see him go after I want to see him go after belts. He just took a tough challenge. I want to see him unify now, and there's one guy on there that I think if he makes weight, has a belt, gives him a lot of problems.

SPEAKER_01: 30:07

At 130?

SPEAKER_03: 30:08

Yeah, Emmanuel Navarrete. Oh that style, that that that weird length.

SPEAKER_01: 30:16

Well, he can he can clearly beat him is just going to be he's gotta be perfect, yeah. Cause he if he get hit, is that's the how do you beat someone so slick like that?

SPEAKER_03: 30:25

You'll be awkward as fuck.

SPEAKER_01: 30:27

He's gonna be awkward. So if he makes weight, that's a weird fight for him.

SPEAKER_03: 30:31

Yeah, it's a weird weight division, too, because uh everything's like scattered now. Um, but but Navarete with the WBO belt, he's the only one I really see. And then there's uh another Eastern European, Albert Batrakazeev, who who's the interim champion because Lamont Roach is at 140 now, I guess. But is he gonna move down? I don't know. It's a very confusing weight class, 130. 130 is all fucked up.

SPEAKER_01: 30:53

Very Ray Ford is the name of the Will Will says Ray Ford, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 30:56

Not Ray Felton.

SPEAKER_01: 30:57

I said Ray Felton. Yo, but but but you know what's funny?

SPEAKER_03: 31:00

It's funny you say that because uh when I heard when I kept saying Stephen Fulton Jr. is fat, I kept thinking Ray Felton.

SPEAKER_02: 31:07

So Ray Felton was fat too. Yeah, he was a fat guard. Yeah, he's real fat now, bro. He looks like just a regular dad. Ray Ford, yeah. That's what I mean. Ray Ford.

SPEAKER_01: 31:18

That would be that I think you know what? That's the fight to make.

SPEAKER_03: 31:22

I think Oshaki picks him apart.

SPEAKER_01: 31:23

That's the fight to make.

SPEAKER_03: 31:25

I think Oshaki picks him apart. And I usually try to root East Coast. I'm gonna feel effed up, like go going for my guy Oshaki. I think I gotta stay low.

SPEAKER_01: 31:32

They got a little beef going, like this shit with Shakur and all that. Yeah, Ray Ford is that that's what it is. That's the fight. That's the fight we need. Shock and Ray Ford. That's the one I need to see next. All right. Well, Ray Ford even got anything at that. He got a belt.

SPEAKER_03: 31:49

Nah, he don't got a belt. He don't got like a real belt. He might have something. Poom, are you the one who told me his name the day I got his autograph? Oh, yeah, yo, yo, yo, Will, it's it's hard to remember boxers. There's so many, dude. So many fighters, so many weight classes, so many belts.

SPEAKER_01: 32:08

And and we just fam, we're not even analysts.

SPEAKER_03: 32:10

So it's like how don't don't don't sweat it. Like the analysts, they get whole write-ups and producers, then this is what you say. They definitely do.

SPEAKER_01: 32:17

They definitely be having like, yeah. Um I'm like, yo, but some people be. I like certain people, they be knowing box and brain. They box and brain.

SPEAKER_03: 32:27

Rip Wolfey says, Willie, what up?

SPEAKER_01: 32:29

Oh, that's that. Um, who's that? Yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_03: 32:34

Yo, say what up to Puma. I know who you are. What up, man?

SPEAKER_01: 32:38

What's wrong with it? Oh, that's about yo. Uh, KB, what up, man? He's gonna come to the fight. He wanna come to the fight too with John.

SPEAKER_03: 32:45

All right, yo, so so okay, let's talk about that real quick. We'll keep preview. We're all over the place on this show. We're amped up. We took some shots, so we're a little rippied.

SPEAKER_01: 32:54

So, KB, get your you know, credit card already. I know you're about to ask me. You got like mad kids to pay for right now.

SPEAKER_03: 32:59

So, whoever you are, whoever you are, um, I already texted my ticket guy. Uh, what we're talking about is Tiafimo Lopez versus Shakur Stevenson. Was announced it's gonna be at MSG, uh Madison Square Garden main room. Tickets are not gonna be cheap. So if you want to roll with us, just just just get ready. Because I can't even front the money that this is gonna cost per ticket. Yo, bro. Um and if he can't come through, because he said he might have some difficulties due to the fact it's the Saudis, but if he can't come through, then we're gonna have to just go to Ticketmaster and do it. Um, or I'll have to find someone else. But just just be ready. And that's gonna be a whole day event. Also, I'm I'm going, I'm taking off work Friday before. Yeah, I'm actually let's just talk about that. So again, that was announced. Um, it's it's really gonna happen. January 31st, Tiafima Lopez versus Shakor Stevenson at MSG, the main room.

SPEAKER_01: 33:50

All right, okay.

SPEAKER_03: 33:51

Yes, we'll we'll go back to the fights, but uh I'm gonna be amped up. I think I'm wearing a suit.

SPEAKER_01: 33:56

Why?

SPEAKER_03: 33:56

Will I think I respect I respect this fight, both of them so much. I'm suiting up, man. You uh Will says you doing front row? I'm definitely doing floor. I'll let you know, Will, though. I'll let you know the the prices uh from from my guy. But um, yeah, I'm definitely sitting on the floor. I don't know about front front row, that'll probably be hard, but I'm definitely on the floor. We we're not we know we're always on the floor, so I'll I'll let you know, Will.

SPEAKER_01: 34:18

I'll I'll link you. Yeah, so yeah, KB John so far. So damn. So yeah. Just again, just again, everybody like they're the money man's anyway. They need to get they gonna buy there. Good, good, good. So hopefully we all get in there. I already, I already tried to. I gotta get my money up trying to fuck with you.

SPEAKER_03: 34:34

Yo, yo, my wife is getting nervous. She's like, oh, Tio's fighting? Like, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01: 34:40

This is gonna have to be crazy.

SPEAKER_03: 34:43

No wife's allowed. Uh, I mean, no. She if she wanted to come, she can. I'm still gonna be the same, but that's not like it's you know what's great about boxing events though? Like, I'm it's not like a girl event. It's like a fucking, we just we just wall it out like fan fanboying.

SPEAKER_01: 34:59

Um I might get a press conference thing. You want a press pass? Nah, just nah. I'll try to get you a press pass. Hell no, if you want, get one, man. It'd be whack, bro. I guess we doing shit in New York.

SPEAKER_03: 35:10

In New York, it's not it's not fun when you get a press pass. Hell no. Did they cut they come up to us?

SPEAKER_01: 35:15

Only Johnny Boy is the only one that he's really working, like yeah, he be working, he's working non-stop.

SPEAKER_03: 35:21

People, I'll put it like this when we go to fights, man, people with press passes are like, yo, how do I sit by this guy? So we have a good time, but you guys will have fun. We're gonna have a whole team going, bro. Um, that's cool. Uh, bring your drinking pants though, guys. Tell your tell your I know your cousin. He's he's you know they begin, bro. That's gonna be a good time, man. Um, but yeah, I'm just glad it's gonna happen again, and I'm probably gonna wear a suit, don't judge me. Um all right.

SPEAKER_01: 35:47

Why the fuck are you wearing a suit?

SPEAKER_03: 35:49

A pinstripe suit, bro. New York City, man. We got fucking the the this is the biggest fight. This is the biggest fight in in I think in maybe the last 10 years, maybe at MSG main room, two new two East Coast guys.

SPEAKER_01: 36:02

Yeah, you're gonna look like the dude from Hitman. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Just not a good thing.

SPEAKER_03: 36:07

And then when Shakur wins, white guy with a suit. When Shakur wins, when Shakur wins, they're gonna jump me and I'm not gonna look like the guy from Hitman. I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna have something. I don't know what I'm doing yet. I'm gonna have something on this guy. I'll probably be in the suit and a sparring hat. But because I respect uh listen, I'm rooting for TO, I'm back in TO, but I respect this them two fighting each other. Like, think about this. This is the two's huge in their prime, under 30. This is rare, unfortunately, in boxing. And it's at MSG.

SPEAKER_01: 36:39

This is huge.

SPEAKER_03: 36:40

Our our home away from home. Bro, this is massive. The undercard's looking like I heard Bruce Carrington might be on there. I heard um Bruce. I heard I saw you in a post, his dad posted. Oh, he's gonna be Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico. Oh shit. But I heard Keyshawn's gonna be on the undercard on the same day. Yeah, that sucks.

SPEAKER_01: 37:00

That sucks. Damn, I want to. Those are my guys. I'll just get to be on that New York card, man. I love seeing Bruce and his dad.

SPEAKER_03: 37:05

He's the ring ambassador, bro. Have that fight in New York. Why is he in Puerto Rico? He's Puerto Rican too, though. He's probably got like conflict. Why the why is he in Porto Right? Because uh Xander's he's going for another. Yeah, and and same day, I hope it's wrong, they're saying plant Charlo, but I feel like we would have heard something more about that.

SPEAKER_01: 37:25

So that had to be on the same card.

SPEAKER_03: 37:27

I I uh nah PBC. I don't think they were running around with ring and top nah. But that gotta be in the same card. I don't know, who knows?

SPEAKER_01: 37:35

Um what what's so special about the 31st?

SPEAKER_03: 37:39

I'm taking off the 30th and the 31st because I'm I'm trying to oh, that's another thing. Huh? I'm gonna try and go to the we'll try to go to the way into. We'll talk about that off air though. Let's keep it rolling. Um, again, guys, save your pennies though. MSG main room is not like the Hulu Theater. That is expensive. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 37:53

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03: 37:54

Press passes are boring. But link up with us if you're there. Hit us up, DME, uh January 31st.

SPEAKER_01: 37:59

Obviously, as it gets closer, you know we're gonna hit Jimmy Corner first. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 38:02

Oh, and again, uh congratulations to Jimmy Corner, Jimmy's Corner and the family. The best bar, cheapest bar. I don't know how they stay open, greatest bar um in New York City.

SPEAKER_01: 38:12

Matter of fact, I kind of heard that they might be closing.

SPEAKER_03: 38:15

From who?

SPEAKER_01: 38:16

From somebody that's real close with them.

unknown: 38:20

Huh?

SPEAKER_01: 38:21

Well, I'm buying it.

SPEAKER_03: 38:23

You know, I'm I'm all about losing money.

SPEAKER_01: 38:25

Yeah, because no, for real. You know, the winters, they close. They they got pitches in here. Yeah, yeah. He the one that told me, so I heard that though too.

SPEAKER_03: 38:33

When he passed away, they said that they were and they they didn't, so who knows? Their grandfather didn't though. Like, you can't move.

SPEAKER_01: 38:39

You can't move. Like, you can't. It's something with the landlord. Yeah, I'm sure. That's what he said. So because it land oh that'll be that'll be that means we gotta open a spar in. Jimmy Corner would be gone.

SPEAKER_03: 38:51

Oh, that'd be that'd be heartbreaking to me. I just posted that little like shit thing, whatever.

SPEAKER_01: 38:56

Oh I just yeah, that's crazy. Just talking to the winters, and they was close with Willie's job is connected with boxing.

SPEAKER_03: 39:02

Yo, boxing, some for some reason it like it's just all connected.

SPEAKER_01: 39:06

I don't think I really don't know how this boxing thing even I'm driving home one day, I see a gym, I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, that's how we met in there, but it's like, damn, how does I was like 28 when I started training.

SPEAKER_03: 39:20

That's crazy. And then I mean I was on and off my whole life, but like we became we made a lot of friends in that gym. Yeah, a lot of frenemies too, but a lot of better friends.

SPEAKER_01: 39:30

They was only beefing with you token white guy. Token white guy, bro. Whoo! So yo, this guy, white guy. Let me get some of him.

SPEAKER_03: 39:36

Yo, this this goes out. This goes out this goes out to all like like token white people parents, right? Have your kid join a boxing gym.

SPEAKER_01: 39:45

So, what's the definition of a token white kid?

SPEAKER_03: 39:47

Well, you know what I mean. Just just to have you me. Just have your yeah. Seriously, though, I mean that. Like, like, cause because you'll you'll make friends for life. Yeah, you'll you'll learn so much in a boxing gym. Like, it helped me growing up. So Have your kids join a real fighters boxing gym. Like young fighters. You think you're gonna get hurt, you're not. You're more likely to get hurt in football. For real. Have your kids join a boxing gym because it's oh man.

SPEAKER_01: 40:09

Somebody gifted a rose.

SPEAKER_03: 40:11

Oh, did they? Oh, yo, thank you. Double.

SPEAKER_01: 40:13

Wow, thank you.

SPEAKER_03: 40:14

So is it Cheech? Oh, that's my guy. That's our guy, bro. Oh shit. That's uh Frank. Thank you, big Frank. Cheech.

SPEAKER_01: 40:21

Oh, Frank, what up, man?

SPEAKER_03: 40:23

Yo, Frank, Frank, DM me, man. TOSHA COR. You coming? Save your pennies.

SPEAKER_01: 40:28

Teoshakor. Sneak ahead, Frank?

SPEAKER_03: 40:30

Yeah. Uh, you know, Frankie, I call him uh what the fuck do I call him? What do you want me to talk about? Frank, he's been on the show. Big in a way fan. Frank. Frankie Nuts? That's what I hope. Frankie Nuts. You know him. I'm dead. Big Jack the Talian dude. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, Frank, hit me up, though. Joey.

SPEAKER_01: 40:53

Joey, yeah. He got too many goddamn things.

SPEAKER_03: 40:56

Never mind, never mind, never mind. He says, I'll be there. Yo, for real though. Save your penny.

SPEAKER_01: 41:00

Yeah, he didn't marry, man. Yeah, I know. Fuck.

SPEAKER_03: 41:05

Moving forward, moving forward. Let's talk about the card that we're supposed to talk about. Um, Spartan after dark. Yeah, we got yo, I might bring that back tonight because I'm all amped up. Um sorry guys, we're all over the place for the radio listeners again. This is powered by Empire Nutrition. They give us all our meals. I gotta shout them out. Um, we gotta put something together for them too. Um, also, we're gonna be doing a giveaway, including Empire Nutrition. And as the TFI Mo Shakor fight gets closer, I'm gonna be doing a monster giveaway. Monster giveaway. If it is tickets, it will be in the tickets, it will be in the nosebleeds. So, but they'll be free if you win. So, that being said, let's keep it moving. Um, back to this weekend, this Saturday night. Nice little card on boxing. Let's just talk about the undercard a little more and then let's just keep it rolling, Willie, so we can get this done. We're having too much fun. This is what happens.

SPEAKER_01: 41:55

What you want to talk about? Because we uh well, Frank Martin gotta stop it.

SPEAKER_03: 41:58

Yeah, Frank Martin did his thing, he did exactly what I asked him for. Frank Martin. And guess who he got rid of?

SPEAKER_01: 42:05

Yeah, he got rid of uh um Spencer trainer. Yeah, his trainer. What is Derek James?

SPEAKER_03: 42:12

Yeah, Derek James.

SPEAKER_01: 42:13

Cook, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 42:14

Who is his trainer now? Do you know?

SPEAKER_01: 42:15

Uh Buddy McGurb.

SPEAKER_03: 42:17

Oh, yeah, it was Buddy McGurb, man. Long Island guy. Good for him.

SPEAKER_01: 42:20

Shout out, shout out, shout out to Frank Fartin.

SPEAKER_03: 42:24

Frank Martin, man.

SPEAKER_01: 42:25

Frank Martin, yo. Yo, you see his fit? Fire. Yo, best fit of the night. Fire. Best fit of the night. He always got some fire fit. He got some fire fit. You know what's funny too? This mad mad people's growing their hair out, too. That's crazy. He got his little braids in. Yeah. Yeah, he got his braids in, slick backs.

SPEAKER_03: 42:43

Bro, for as a lefty, watching him hit uh Bartholomew with that left, that straight left to knock him out. That was beautiful. All lefties could appreciate that. Just a simple boop, boop.

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Yeah, finally see him back, man. Yo, I ain't gonna lie. I don't know. These fight, these fighters have to tank, man. They just start.

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But that goes that goes for for going crazy. I was just gonna say that. You read my mind. That goes for anybody that fights a like top, top, top marketable fighter, yeah, and loses to them. It's like they we just write them off, like they sucked. But it's like, no, you you lost in boxing to a really good fighter, you're still really good. Yeah, but even though this is was like a pick-me-up fight type of but but versus a very, very awkward guy, very not like a uh he's not like a nobody. No skill level, no with Frank Martin, man. Frank Martin, man, did his thing. I I I he has power, he clearly, clearly has power. He just proved that, and and that's exactly what I said. I wanted him to do that.

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That was the confidence boost that he needed to get back.

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And what did I say last last episode? I said if Frank Martin doesn't get him the hell out of here, it's a loss. Yeah, and he he did, and he didn't.

SPEAKER_01: 43:49

You did you called you called a couple uh fights?

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Yeah, I didn't win any money though, but I did call I called some shit. Um all right, though there was that, and then we had uh Jesus Ramos Jr. versus Shane Mosley Jr.

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This shit went exactly how we thought it was gonna go. Without the stoppage, well without the stoppage, yes, yo, Shane Mosley Jr. How the hell you took so many punches, bro? Yo, he would show toughness, bro. He was sitting here for every punch. He's gonna be pungy. You know how his dad used to look when he got punched up?

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Yeah, he's gonna look just like that. And unfortunately, his dad, you when you talk to him now, he's yeah, and that's all fighters, that's all fighters. So but but you know it, props to Shea Mosley Jr., bro. He he he saw at one point I just need to survive, and he did, he was eating some shit, and he was throwing shit back.

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Yeah, yeah, he was he did not quit, bro. When I thought he was gonna be out of there.

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Um now now the middleweight divisions, another funny one. Um, because obviously the the main event was was a middleweight fight, Arizondri Laura versus uh that that guy, not the main event, um co-main event, Arizandri Laura versus that guy because Janabek popped hot. But now now that's a funny division. Like now now that version of Ramos that we saw, I think he beats Arizandry. Who? Lara. I think Ramos beats Lara.

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Lara's still got it. He's still like, yeah, Lara. I this fight was I don't know what the fuck he was thinking. Just playing around with his food.

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So do you let me ask you something. Let me ask you something, man. Because I've been getting in debates with this. Everyone seems to love Lara. Everyone apparently he's a really nice guy.

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He is great, man. I ain't gonna lie.

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Everybody seems to love Lara. Let me be real though.

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But if Janeback not fight like that. Hell no. You saying you asking me if Jadaback would have never popped dirty and he would have fought. No way. If he would have came in there that night and fought like that, absolutely, he would have gotten his ass tore up. He would have walked into something.

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Someone messaged me. Someone messaged me and was like, Oh, you know, but yeah, uh, I think oh no, what'd they say? Oh, I think no, no, actually, I think it was punch. Punch, yeah, punchlines. We were texting during the fight, like the good old days. Punchlines was like, yo, I think PVC had a lot to do with this uh Janovek testing. And I was like, Yeah, man, I've been saying that. Like, I'm not I'm not a conspiracy guy, and if you if you do use performance-enhancing drugs in boxing, whatever comes your way, shame on you. It's a it's a sport that causes head trauma and fucks people up for life, right? But I don't know, man. Because after seeing this version of Lara and he won, Janebek would have fucking hit him with an uppercut that would have sent him to he would have been in a he would have been a meme. Lara would have been a meme.

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Laura might just retire after this person. Yeah.

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So uh again, he didn't need he, yeah.

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If Janenbeck would have fought that fight, it would have been a whole different story. Because he went 12 rounds and he almost got the stoppage late and 12 years. Like he turned it up late. Like, come on, dude. But he still got that fucking. I said I called that shit that one-two that he loved. That's all he's got. That shit is beautiful though. That's all he's got. I was training, um, I was training before um, I didn't even talk to Jerry, but Jaden before he left how to walk somebody into the shit, into the one-two. Yeah, on a like, so just walk him. That's all he did all day. He's so talented, he's so talented. Walk the he's walking people into one-twos all day.

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I don't I don't wanna I don't want to hate on him too much. He's 42 years old and he he just beat like you know 42 years old, bro.

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He's 42.

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That's crazy. So uh props to him for that. 42 doing that, go in 12 rounds at 42. I go six rounds on a heavy bag and I'm 35 and I want to die. So go go be a 42, man. Props to him for that.

SPEAKER_01: 47:44

You can't really blame him for that. But I'm saying, like, but he if Jannenbeck, yeah, he would have been fucking trash.

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I think they sprinkled some shit in that Eastern European soup.

SPEAKER_01: 47:53

Damn, you think so?

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Because Janet Beck, they know PVC. We we see, we see how they like to protect their fighters, bro. No, we see how they like to protect their fighters.

SPEAKER_01: 48:02

How you said that, I was just I was just watching something where um whatchamacallit. Who was it? You gotta write this shit down. Yeah, I know. I'm doing everything off the top of the dome. Yeah, um, I think Sugar Ray was fighting Hagler.

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Yeah, yeah. Oh, you posted it. Yeah, yeah.

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And Hagler was trading for Sugar Ray, yeah.

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Yeah, he was he was not, he was switching food with his manager just in case they was trying to Bro, Tyson, Tyson Fury, Tyson Fury versus Klitschko said, I don't want water from anybody, I'm getting my own water. Like he had his own water versus when he fought Vladimir Klitschko. He's like, I'm getting my own water brought in. There's like some dirty shit that goes on. But again, I I'm I'm making assumptions. If he did pop hot and he was attempting to cheat, fuck him. But I don't know, man. The way the PVC protects their fighters.

SPEAKER_01: 48:53

So now that you say that about him, right? You seen the shit with um Matias, and he just and he's he he's he found now not guilty, but he's on probation. So what the fuck? I think a year probation, but he's not guilty.

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I talked about this before. I think in boxing you're allowed certain levels, and with Vada, we're actually gonna have it's it's good you brought that up. So we're gonna have our our friend over at Empire Nutrition, Mike. He's gonna come on. He was supposed to come on today, but he wanted me to reschedule it. Yeah, like put a date, and he's gonna talk to us about these performance enhancing drugs. Yeah, he's gonna talk to us because it's confusing. We don't we can barely we can't figure the fucking belts out.

SPEAKER_01: 49:32

I don't even know how to I don't even know how to spell ostrogen, I don't even know how to say it. So yeah, we can help.

SPEAKER_03: 49:38

Um, but there is like certain levels, I heard, and then like you just have to tell Vada what you're prescribed. So like you could have high testosterone, it's a whole mess of things, but just be careful, fighters out there. I know a lot of our fighter friends are always looking.

SPEAKER_01: 49:51

This is getting out of control at right now because we don't know what's going on. All I do know is as boxing fans, we see these news just popping left and right, and then we just get full of confusions, and like we just don't we think uh like different of fighters that might not even be guilty.

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But but when you never pop hot and you do the right thing, you do it the right way, you always make weight. Yeah, there's never an issue. That's one there's something to be said for that. So so again, there's a little truth, there's a little truth to every room. There's a little truth, yeah. We all want a better shit. I'm about to get on some testosterone. If I wasn't such a horn dog, I'd be on that shit already. Um crying, but yeah, that's Lara versus that guy. Um whatever. Uh I I thought Lara could have got him out of there earlier. Again, he is 40 years old.

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Definitely, definitely.

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All I know is Janabek is not losing to no 42-year-old.

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Yeah, that would that would have been that would have been whatever.

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Janabek is so crazy. Janabek shouldn't have taken some shit for this fight.

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So But do you do you see now? This is a weird spot now, because like would um I don't even know if I was like to see Bud against Laura, like just to get the belt. But it was supposed to be it was supposed to be a unify, and then this then Bud gets Yeah, I don't know what Bud's gonna do now, but Bud cooks Laura. Yeah, he's definitely gonna cook.

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So so Bud might go down. Maybe when I was talking to Punch, when we were talking to Punch, that rematch won't happen. I think Bud Bud cooks Laura.

SPEAKER_01: 51:25

Yeah, but it won't be for none though. What? It would be for one belt. Yeah, but whatever. Bud is trying to get you undisputed again.

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Yeah, I'm sure that that'd be the ideal, but if if Bud gets another belt in the middle of the city.

SPEAKER_01: 51:39

Who's another but who's another who's a who's the other belt holder? I know it's at 160?

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It was definitely um no no no Laura, Janabek, and it had to be Laura Janabek has two, Lara has one, and then there's one up in the air. Who the fuck is it? Oh, oh, oh, um he fought in in the Riyadh card. And remember the Riyadh card? Yeah, Shiraz, it was a draw. Oh, uh the the the bull. Yeah, yeah, the bull or whatever. What the fuck? Ah, I know him. Carlos Adames.

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Yeah, Carlos Adames. So god damn, these names. Yeah, yeah, Carlos.

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Damn.

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Um, but but he haven't fought in a minute either.

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I know, but he's got something cooking too. Oh man, you know what? You know what's crazy, man? 160 is a fun division. This those belts gotta get freed a little bit. Like everyone wants the belts, but there's some good fights to be made over.

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I want to see Bug get uh undisputed again, just make history again.

SPEAKER_03: 52:35

Let me get some Jahi Tucker vs. Terrence Crawford, baby. Get my guy out there, my dog, bro. Oh let me get my guy Jahay Tucker versus Terrence Crawford, baby.

SPEAKER_01: 52:47

That is that oh let's go skillful fight. Yeah, let's go. That's a skillful fight.

SPEAKER_03: 52:51

I mean, listen, it is what it is, man. I'm just saying. Let's get him in there. Anyway, I'm just fanboying. Moving forward, moving forward. Um, the main event. Let's let's chop it up about the main event. Um, we had Lamont Roach versus Isaac Pitbull Cruz, the most accurate nickname in boxing. Correct?

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Yeah.

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What'd I say? You ain't even listening. This mother effort, ain't it? What are you looking at? Your bets?

SPEAKER_01: 53:24

No, yeah. I was just looking at it. All right, well, tell us, tell us.

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Well, what did you what did you bet? What's the score? Let's go.

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No, no, no, no.

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No, I want to know. I want to know.

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I don't know.

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What is it?

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I don't know. I think my shit lost already now. I'm talking to you. Oh, that's why that's why it lost. Yeah, I couldn't do the math right fast.

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This guy's playing some bets on the podcast. I love it. That's awesome. Lamont Roach vs. Isaac Pitt Bull Cruise, the best nickname in boxing. Correct. Wait, did we skip a fight? No, I don't think so. Boshaki. Oh, we ran through Yeah, we ran through Frank Martin. Yeah, no. Yeah. Okay. That's the last one. Yeah. That's the last one. Then we got a preview to talk about. And oh my god, I'm bleeding. Just picked a fucking hangnail. You ever pick a hangnail and just start?

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What the fuck is a hangnail?

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Some white people shit. Um Lamotte Roach Jr. versus Isaac Pitbull Cruz. For the WBC interim junior welterweight title. Uh very, very, very, very competitive fight on paper.

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Yeah.

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Um, it kind of played out exactly how we thought.

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Yeah. Uh you called that shit with the you was like, oh, he was like, what'd you say? You said roach. You said roach. You said roach probably can win, but he's gonna get knocked out.

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I said I can see him, I can see him not getting knocked down and still winning. And that's exactly what happened, sort of. I mean, it was a draw. The final was a draw. And you know what? Pitbull was exactly what he we thought he was and always is. Just just this time, I'm not gonna lie, he was a little dirty. He was a little dirty in there. Yeah, he was doing a lot of low blows, dude. And the ref wasn't seeing him. The ref was he he was he was tactfully low blowing. Like tactfully. He didn't even lose a point for low blowing, but he was tactfully hitting him in the balls. I thought he lost a point for the he did, but it wasn't for the low blow, I don't think. I think it was for something else. He was doing all kinds of dirty shit.

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Hitting in the back.

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One time, yeah. And then one time in the clinch, he was jumping. He kept clinching, jumping, hitting him with the bleeding with his head.

SPEAKER_01: 55:24

You know, but you said Roach, uh Roach was doing some sneaky shit too. You notice it, you notice that he he was trying to he in the press conference and um post and the post conference, he was like, Um, oh, he was holding and shit, but Roach was fake holding, trying to fake hold him. You can see it. He was trying to fake hold him, but throw combinations in between the hold. So it's like, yo, he was holding me, no, but you was over there trying to fake hold him and catch him with something.

SPEAKER_03: 55:53

Yeah, but that that's so so again, Pipple's always fun to watch because of his you know exactly what you're gonna get, right? Yeah, you know exactly how he's gonna fight. He fights the same every fight and brings it for 12 rounds, yeah. And you no matter how you prepare for it, when you see it in the ring, you just can't hang with it for whatever reason. Lamont Roach kind of fought the wrong fight, in my opinion. Absolutely, because I've been I said that while he did well in the clinch and he did better than we all thought, the judges, depending on how they're gonna score, especially after getting knocked down, you gotta just stick and move.

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Yeah, you gotta o' Shocky Foster that Mofo. Yeah, I didn't I didn't move I didn't understand the game plan, but I we said that that he likes to fight in the pocket, but why would you want to do that?

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Do I think he still won in my eyes? Yes, I think he did enough to win very close because the point deduction and the knockdown, if he didn't get that point deduction, he's screwed.

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Yeah, he would have lost, but and yeah, but the thing is, even though it's not a real belt, right?

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It's not uh uh but it's it puts you up in the rankings and gets you in in line for a belt at 140.

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Bull is the champion too, so it's like and hometown, yeah. So like that draw was probably the he was also Roach has Roach is usually calm and composed.

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He let his emotions really get into it. He really did, yeah. Like he was dancing, and then even with the knockdown, he's like, No, no, no, no, bro, you your glove hit the ground, like clearly.

SPEAKER_01: 57:19

Unfortunately, with the tank fight something, something pitbull gotta be checked. His fucking head is rock hard solid. Both of the how Roach broke his hand. He broke his hand just like Tank broke his hand. Bro, ain't no way, ain't no way. What is in that dome?

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Arguably, arguably, I think right now, with the exception of maybe like Canelo, has the best chin in boxing.

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I think I think Pitbull Bro must have had surgery.

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He got plates in that head.

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Yeah, he's like Robo.

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I like Roach's hook. Roach has an awesome hook. Awesome hook.

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But like he got he got a hook, he got a timed hook where he goes high guard. Great timing. Oh my god, that shit be smoking shit.

SPEAKER_03: 58:00

But why why stay in the pocket versus Pitbull?

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He likes doing pocket shit, but you want to get in a fight and then walk out like yo, these judges uh and again again you for his fight.

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The hardest fights to judge are fights like this. So, so again, I I don't I'm not sure.

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No, I thank you, Roach, though, for the the exciting fights.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. I don't know how'd he get away with that beard, bro? Like your beard right now is shorter than Roach's was, yeah, which is crazy. And yours is right now, it's about like four inches.

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So I don't know. Man, that was it was an exciting fight, but I don't believe I don't know why he fought that fight, man. He made it harder for himself.

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100%, 100%. And and again, I I guess he wants a rematch.

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And he got caught. That shit was funny as hell, though. That was a clean. Pitbull said, Yeah, yeah, the we only fighters that got went to give tank the fight.

SPEAKER_03: 58:57

Uh he wants the tank fight. Roach wants or uh Pitbull. But Tank Tank, I think Tank tweeted something.

SPEAKER_01: 59:03

Yeah, I see.

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Tank came out of came out. Where the fuck he come from? I told you he'll be back. I told you he'll be back. Nah. When the money gets tight.

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I want to see when the money gets tight. Yeah, I bet. Fucking Lloyd's is just like.

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He said when his hand heels or he's injured, his knee heels or something. I guess he's injured.

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I mean, he probably got old knees, like you know, his fan, his one of the.

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Nah, I'm I'm down for Tank coming back. I never want him to leave. Just I I need the a lot of people hype.

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But he if he's gonna come back, he's gonna have to fight Roach, don't fight Pitbull.

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Either or, I don't know. I mean, they're both good fights. Either or the Roach fight, I I think this time Tank fights Roach differently. Tank will make the adjustments. But um either or Tank just got too patient, can't get so patient.

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Um, that shit ended.

SPEAKER_03: 59:55

Oh, what did oh the TikTok? Oh shit, I thought you were talking about Hold on, hold on, hold on. We're gonna close out the show. Yeah, we're gonna close out the show. Live on TikTok, yeah. Hold on. Um, hold on, hold on. Life has ended. Boom. The TikTok live is easy. We are back live on TikTok again. The show is powered by Empire Nutrition. That's how we drink and stay healthy. We also work out. We're gonna we're gonna turn it up soon, workout wise. Um again. I don't know what's next for Roach. I don't know if he's staying at 140. I don't know what's going on. Usually when you go up, you don't come back down. Um but all I'm saying is I'm okay with a rematch of this fight. But now he broke his hand. Who knows what's gonna happen? He he I think someone someone hit me up and they were like, Yeah, if Roach like turned it off in the 11th and 12th, and then I re-watched the 11th and 12th and I was like, Oh shit, he he kind of did, and he shouldn't have did that. And I think he played around too much. He let he let Pitbull get in his head.

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But Pitbull was tied too, though.

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Yeah, Pitbull was, but whatever. He was getting hit with some shit, Pitbull, but you're not gonna knock him down. We knew that we knew you weren't at no point in time where we're like, oh my god, Pitbull's hurt. Stop. Was there any point in time?

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I don't know.

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Was there a point in time where like Roach is hurt?

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It felt like it.

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He almost fell out the ring. He's lucky there was a corner there.

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Yeah, he almost went, damn boy, you would have played around, man.

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All right, let's get into the previews. Keep it rolling as the show's coming to a close. Um let's talk about it, man. Diego Pacheco is fighting this weekend on Saturday. Man. Diego Pacheco. I I'm not gonna lie to you.

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I forgot to do name, but his name is first name is Kevin, man. Look it up now. I didn't know French Hammer. That's his nickname. Oh my god. That's a good name.

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That's I like that nickname to the French Hammer.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:52

Yo, does it come with like you think the French make hammers? I ain't gonna lie. This guy, guess who this guy fought in the Olympics? Who? Christian O'Mabilly. He fought him. He's an Billy type fighter? Yo, yes. And it, but it seemed like he got yo, built just like him.

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Yeah.

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Muscles coming forward. Kevin Saddle. I don't know if Pacheco have the power to keep him off of him.

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You think, do you think he's trying to prove something now?

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:26

I don't. This guy got 26 wins with 23 knockouts.

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Coming off a Trevor McCombee fight, you're you're taking a risk like this? That's dog, bro.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:35

This is dog. He's gonna have to dog this out. Again?

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This is Trevor, same way. Trevor McCombey, like boys, same way, bro.

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But Trevor McCombey was not this type of fighter. This is like this is like Mabilie. He's they fought, they fight just straightforward, but more like Mike Mike Tyson, like just straight throwing haymakers the whole fight. Yeah. This guy is gonna be this is gonna be a a huge test for Pacheco. So I think I think we gotta put this is gonna be a huge our bet this guy our bet money. This guy will get a knockout. Just to just the listen, listen. You have to put money on this guy just to get a stoppage, just in case. They're ruining him. Just just in case.

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So so listen, listen to his last three opponents, Diego Pacheco. At his young age. He his young age, right? His last three opponents. Again, um Selecki, that the tough, tough, I believe the Polish guy, tough, tough. I think he's Polish. Tough, tough Polish guy, right? Gets him out of there in the sixth round with a body shot. I remember that, which I wasn't expecting because Selecki's tough. I think I bet the distance. Steven Nelson, yeah, tough, tough guy, goes 12 rounds, clearly won that fight. Trevor McCombey, same thing. High risk, high risk fight. Same thing, goes 12. Same thing. This is even a good thing. And then and then now, if if what you're saying is true about this sad call guy who looks appears that way, he's 26-0.

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Bro, he is he just didn't fight nobody.

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Yeah?

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Yeah. He just didn't fight nobody. But he had he had he was in the Olympics with mobility.

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So this all his fights were oh oh yeah, he all his fights were like in one in Europe, Jack Cullen. I know the name. He was in France. He was a lot of this.

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He really didn't fight nobody. That's his that's this that's um Pacheco's on a that's his advantage. He didn't fight nobody.

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Kind of looks like him, Billy.

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Bro, they fight, he fight more like aggressive. He's gonna come forward. He's gonna have to box. He's gonna be in the back.

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What's your bet?

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I'm putting money on this guy to get a salvage just in just just cuz. Come on, man. Listen to who Diego fought, though, man. You think, bro, this guy, I ain't gonna lie. For the eye tests, I didn't really see him fight like live. The eye test, this guy is gonna bring it to him. You think so, man? I don't think Pacheco got enough power to keep him off him. Really? Bro, this guy comes. He looks mean, damn. He is straight, mean punches.

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He's got one of those faces in a picture.

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A work horse.

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Wherever you move your head, a work horse. I believe it, because look, in this picture, look at his fucking traps. Is that like the Moda Lisa?

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You see his traps? You gotta look at a video. Go to YouTube real fast. You're gonna see this guy. Alright, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it right now. Bro, you're gonna see this guy. You're gonna be like, yo, damn. Hold on. Let me YouTube this guy quick. Yo, I don't know shit about this. He just didn't fight nobody, but this is gonna be a tough fight. Because I don't know. Oh my god. Ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:40

Dude, what the this dude is ridiculous. Of course, I got a freaking head. But that dude is yoked.

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Ridiculous. Straight power punches coming forward. Not no really defense, but I mean that's not good though. I don't know if he can get if if he can, I don't know if this young bull can be able to resist. Yo, let's put some respect on Diego Pacheco, though. Those three guys I mean yes, we we said that. We said that. This is but he's going again. This is another one. Who's doing this to him? No, that's this is a I never knew about this guy until now. Because Diego Pacheco is fighting him.

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Yeah, that's wild. I mean, he's he's gotta use his jab. He's gotta use it.

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This guy got 23 knockouts. A straight power, like coming forward. Yeah, but first, who come on? Exactly. I said that. Didn't I say that? I'll bet the over. No, this is hard. I'll bet the over. Just in case you gotta put the stoppage on this guy, bro. And is he probably the underdog?

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:46

Yeah, definitely. Diego Pacheco's he's he's coming.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:51

You think he's that good? I didn't I haven't really seen nothing special.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:55

When you when you when you're that young, like like how old is he? I think he's 22.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:00

Uh I think he's this style of fight, though. This style is going to 24.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:05

He's 24.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:06

Because when he fought Trevor, Trevor has a a style. It's it's not really a style. That style was made for him.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:14

Yeah, it's like a counter, like not counter, but like like like I'm gonna hit you with some shit. But no.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:19

That's that style is more like keep him from a distance. This guy's come it's like a pit bull. Like a pit bull. This is like a pit bull versus roach. Like how he's gonna move, but you know he got them long arms. I'm gonna get Pacheco got them long arms. He don't have, I don't know if he has the power to keep this man off him. If this man can catch him, it's over for him. It's over. He might upset this guy. I ain't gonna lie. Oh man, this is might be it for Pacheco. This is his damn Willie. Damn, bro. He's gonna have to prove me wrong. Yeah, yeah. Let's make a little friendly bet. What I don't want. Do I really want all right?$100, man. 100? Yeah, this is gonna be tough. But what is the though? We'll do 50. We'll do 50. Over or under? What do you want?

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:09

What's your what's your heart?

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:10

What's your heart going with? Shit. Damn, my heart is going with my man's discount. I'm gonna go. Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:21

I'm gonna go with Diego Stoppage.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:23

Diego Stoppage? Yeah. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:27

Diego for 50? KO stoppage.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:30

Alright, that's definitely we definitely do that one. He's definitely not stopping this guy.

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:34

I think he might.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:35

I just looked at his opponent. You're only as good as your opposition. I'm sure. Watch this guy. Okay, he fought against Mobility. He Olympic, he's an Olympic guy. Yeah, but uh, it's just uh this guy got something to prove, but he's the only thing he's old. He's like fucking 35. God damn.

unknown: 1:08:55

Shit.

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:57

What the fuck you mean? 35 young.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:58

But he's 35. Yo, but he's in shape. He looks in shape. He's just crazy in shape. And I'm betting on him to put some work in. Oh, I'll he I've seen bro. This guy is explosive, bro. He he started boxing late and everything, and made whew.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:15

Alright, we'll see. We'll see.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:17

I think I like I like I like I don't know.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:19

I'm not gonna, I'm actually going out doing some Christmas shit. I feel like this guy's gonna do some. Yeah?

unknown: 1:09:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:26

Alright, well, you bet. You're good. You put your money. Yo, we always put our money where I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:30

You see them traps, bro? The muscles, bro.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:34

I saw them traps, bro. We always put our money where we're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:37

Do you think he can put uh Pacheco box that that that's gonna be? I think he's gonna get he's how many rounds is it?

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:42

12. He's gonna put that he's gonna put that fucking jab in his face. Um it's from one of those weird belts. Yeah. Those fucking hold on, I think it's 12. Uh should be because it's for Diego Pacheco's weird belts. Yeah, 12. Um, all right. And then uh we got a little card this Sunday, another one. Uh like we alluded to in the beginning of the show. Um a little MVP promotion card.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:14

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:15

Artiga, Jazz, Jasmine, Jasmine, Artiga, El Animal, the Animal. Um, she's fighting. And you know what? I again I I think this is more of a stay busy fight for her, but I want to say something, and there's there's three fighters that that come to mind when I think of women fighters and knockouts, and she's one of them. The other two are obviously Amanda Serrano, like women that look for knockouts, girls that look for knockouts, and their power affects their opponent.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:45

Yeah, Bomb Garner?

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:47

Yeah, no, no, yeah, that was it. Those are the three.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:51

Well, he got them all in VP.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:53

Yeah, well, he's got every chick except like Clarissa Shields. But but yeah, uh, so she's fighting a girl named Stephanie Silva. She's um she's putting her belt on the line, though. So you know what? Good for her. Um, again, I think it's a little stay busy fight in the super flyweight division. The the female boxing is fun, man. It is fun to watch. And again, she has real power. She's a workhorse, like you alluded to. She's always working, and and there's there's three girls to me, and she's one of them, three females, all different weight classes, in women's boxing right now, where they uh their power like like makes a difference, if that makes sense. Like changes, changes the way other fighters fight, and that's Amanda Serrano. She's number one, obviously, but Jasmine Artiga and Baumgardner. And and like and and I'm gonna say Clarissa Shields, she's she's amazing, amazing. Yeah, one of the best female boxers I've ever seen, but she's her power is different, it's more timing. She sets it up. Like this is like raw, real power, and it's good to see. Um, we're gonna have her on the show probably after this fight for what's next. Yep. Um, she is ripped, like you said. Jasmine Artiga, the animal. The animal.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:07

She's probably definitely gonna destroy this link.

SPEAKER_03: 1:12:09

Yeah, I'm gonna bet knockout. I'm gonna bet knockout K. It's hard in two-minute rounds, so I'm gonna bet knockout. This she's always on the main event is Cletus Selden from Long Island. Speaking of Cletus Selden, yeah, um, our good friend Vargas is fighting again.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:27

Huh?

SPEAKER_03: 1:12:28

Vargas. You know, Alex. Yeah, Alex Vargas El Toro is fighting again again. Paramount coming back, come back for him. He was top 20 in the rankings at a Long Island, went through some shit, and um couldn't get a fight, but he is back fighting again. We'll probably have him on too.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:46

He have yeah, he haven't fought.

SPEAKER_03: 1:12:47

No, hasn't phone a minute. Um, we should probably go to that fight too. I think it's in February, so that'd be fun. Yeah, that'd be fun. Nothing going on in February except Valentine's Day, yeah. Paramount's fun too. It was a fun fight. I've never been. Oh, you will now. Oh, and and your peoples like run that shit.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:02

Who's you peoples?

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:03

Winter Brothers.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:04

Oh, right?

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:05

Yeah, your paisans, your Italianos. Oh shit. I'm about to talk about it. They're Italian or they're Irish? I think they're Irish. I don't remember. Whatever. That's all we got for the Spar Unboxing podcast. Next week's episode. Um, we got a bunch to to go over. We're gonna we're gonna review these fights, the local bet we just made. Um Angel says Team SS ringside January 31st. Uh, yes, Angel. Angel's a big Shakur fan, huge Shakur fan, kind of like I'm a Teo fan. We might be squaring up, man. We might be squaring up. Nah, I'm just kidding. Um, yeah, we'll be there on the floor. We started the show with that. 100% we will be on the floor. But uh, we'll see you there, Angel. Hit me up. Um, yeah, that's that's all I really got. You got anything else to close out the show?

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:52

I don't know. We said a fucking lot.

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:54

Yeah, this was a long one. I think we I think we I think we definitely went over hours, we had punch special guests off the top.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:01

Damn, we're getting good at this.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:03

Yeah, not really. I don't know if we're getting good, but we need a producer, bro.

SPEAKER_02: 1:14:07

Nah, we are we alright. We are right. We are right.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:10

We just gotta get some bots. Yeah, something.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:15

Damn, how long was this? I don't even know where the time is on this. It was a long time. Started yapping. Yeah, we were always yapping. That's what happens when we get the juices flowing. All right, though. Um, you got anything else? You want anything else you want to shout out?

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:28

I'm getting tired now.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:29

Uh, Angel says, Shout out to my boy coach Moses Holla. Um, yeah, I mean it's gonna be a good fight. It's a 50-50 fight. Angel, we're not gonna preview it yet, but you know damn well we will be in MSG, the main room. I might be at the way in. I gotta see if I could pull some strings, talk to my people's. Um, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:50

Uh also, too, the the little boxing.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:54

Ah, if they just promoted it better, they better December they better promote this.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:57

December still got a lot of fucking fights in there.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:59

So yo, we got Anthony Joshua, Jake Paul, and and and forget what you that's it. That's a huge that's a huge eye catcher. Friday night.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:06

We gotta do that one next week.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:07

Yeah, next week we'll do that one. That's a eye catcher.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:12

Yeah, that's really good.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:14

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SPEAKER_01: 1:15:16

How do you get your meals trusting? Like how Diego gets stopped. No, it's not getting stopped, bro. How Diego Pacheco gets stopped.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:24

You're getting blinded by who this guy is.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:28

She might get the stopped.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:30

Um next week, next week, tune in because Ginny Fuchs is coming on the show. Or Fucci, however, you want to say it. She's gonna get mad at me. But yo, she's uh she's allegedly coming on the show. Um, we're having some scheduling conflicts. She's got a lot to talk about with what we started the show with um in regards to the WBC.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:47

She got something with the WC thing. Yeah, yeah, a lot of drama going on with that. So we're gonna have on anything. And they can't even talk about that either. Like, kind of, we went like a little bit on it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:58

If you did make it this far, please uh let me know. You got fighters, anybody, if you if you're not just a fan, we we talk with anybody, we chop it up. We're just fans. Again, this is the spar unboxing podcast powered by Empire Nutrition, www.empirenutrition.com. Get 10% off your meals or online orders.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:15

Thanks for playing.

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:17

Code Spar S P A R. Thanks for playing as well for all the fight fan t-shirts. Great t shirts. Um, yeah. You got it? Um no, nothing, nothing, man. We're gonna end it on that note. We'll see you guys next week. Peace. Damn.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:35

Hold on, shit, never ends.