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Pound-for-Pound Poker: Who's Bluffing at the Vegas Megafight? (All Things Canelo/Crawford)
The boxing world holds its collective breath as Canelo Alvarez and Terence Crawford prepare for a clash that defies conventional wisdom. Crawford, daring to jump two weight classes, faces perhaps the ultimate test against boxing's most reliable chin and proven power puncher.
What makes this matchup fascinating isn't just the stark contrast in natural size, but the chess match of styles that will unfold. Crawford, technically brilliant and adaptable, must navigate a puzzle he's never encountered: a bigger opponent he likely can't hurt. Meanwhile, Canelo brings the immovable object of his physical presence, but faces a level of footwork and counter-punching brilliance that could frustrate his methodical approach.
The debate among boxing experts reveals the fight's intriguing complexity. Most see two clear paths: Crawford winning through masterful point-scoring and movement, or Canelo gradually imposing his will as the fight progresses into the later rounds. The telling moment may come when Crawford lands his first clean shots – if they don't visibly affect Canelo, the dynamic shifts dramatically. As one fighter put it, "Crawford will try to see where Canelo's power is at, then box accordingly."
Beyond the main event, the undercard delivers its own compelling narratives. Callum Walsh brings his exceptional Irish fighting spirit against Fernando Vargas Jr.'s famous family pedigree in what could be a breakthrough moment for both fighters. The Christian Mbilli vs. Lester Martinez clash further showcases the card's international flavor and potential for breakthrough performances.
Whether you favor Crawford's technical brilliance or Canelo's proven power, September 13th promises to answer one of boxing's eternal questions: can exceptional skill overcome natural physical advantages? Join us for what might be the defining fight of this generation.
It's time for the main event.
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Speaker 1:Oh, it's a knockout. I'm shorty like mine, shorty like mine.
Speaker 3:Yo, that is the voice of Willie. He's back in the flesh. Back in the flesh Like mine. We are live, we love. Oh, we are. I think we're live. Let me check the insta. This is so I. I have so many technical difficulties going on. Uh, people might pop in, people might not. We're changing up the platform a little bit. Can you hear me, willie?
Speaker 3:yeah well, I hear you too. Yeah, I missed your voice, yo. Um. Uh, we are gonna start doing the live stream on monday nights because of football. That's what I posted. Please pop in the last live stream. I'm gonna apologize, um, I did six straight hours yo, you was wild and that was funny.
Speaker 3:It was fun I know, but I just deleted the video. I didn't post it because I was so drunk. That is my fault. That won't happen again, I promise, but it was all right. It was kind of fun. Oh shit, yeah, sorry, a little late, technical difficulties, as fucking usual. I don't have a producer, I have nothing. This is all me, myself and I, and sometimes Willie. Wow, sometimes it's crazy. Yeah, we live, yeah, we are.
Speaker 1:All right, going forward. I meant to tag YouTube.
Speaker 3:Oh, whatever, here we are. This is the Canelo Alvarez Terrence Crawford show, though that's basically all we're going to talk about. Rodolfo from last time Latino Heat he was with us. He's going to pop in as well. Punchlines might pop in. That's going to be the new thing, willie. We're just going to have people popping in, popping out. My drunk ass had two pros on talking to us. I barely remember the convo. Flats friend of the show and Lorenzo Medina were both on. Lorenzo had some words for Willie, I didn't know.
Speaker 3:Willie was liking the knockout photos man. Yo wait, I had no idea this guy, but that was funny, no idea.
Speaker 1:I would never even saw it. I just want to Yo. I didn't even know I liked this shit. I don't remember that shit. You know how you just like shit and there's somebody in it.
Speaker 3:You did some shit one time too. I never said anything to you. I'm not going to name names, but a friend of ours, Pro Boxer, got in some trouble and you kept reposting the trouble. Somebody got in trouble.
Speaker 1:Long Island guy. Long Island, he got in trouble.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, punchlines is in. Hold on. Let me add to the page what up, punch Pissing, oh shades.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I'm supposed to have shades?
Speaker 3:Huh, what did you say? I'll tell you off air, willie, nothing. Willie and I were having a conversation about last. So when I was talking about last show, when I got a little crazy drunk it was fun, though I mean, from what I remember, and Lorenzo Medina popped in and I didn't expect this or whatever. He's like yo, willie, I'm mad at you, or something. He's like you liked the fucking photo of me getting knocked out.
Speaker 1:Yo punch, I can't even like photos. I didn't even say nothing. That shit was funny. I don't know what I did, honestly, to be honest.
Speaker 3:I didn't know that was going to.
Speaker 1:I didn't think that was going to do anything. But I didn't know that was going to. I didn't think that was going to do anything, like I didn't think somebody was going to catch filming because I liked the video.
Speaker 3:Yo yo, that's something we got over, though too Like. I know, I know punch knows, but punch just doesn't care.
Speaker 1:I'll laugh at my pain all the time If y'all see a video of me on the internet.
Speaker 3:I'll be laughing.
Speaker 1:I'm so damn stupid I didn't understand. Well, I didn't know. Now I know we close with these people, but I didn't Like I'm just he didn't care, care. No, he didn't care, but he just let me know. But I'm like that's good on him, though he checked that. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I, oh man. This is crazy In general. Probably my name just popped up.
Speaker 3:It does make you think, though, man, I know Punch doesn't care, he's a different breed but it does make you think sometimes, like god damn, they got feelings. But I'm not a fake person though.
Speaker 1:No, no Me, neither Me, neither, no, that's what I'm saying. Well, he probably think I'm fake because of that. That's what it is.
Speaker 3:But I'm not he. It was in the TCL shit. The TCL thing, yeah, it was bad. He was in a very bad place, but he's doing better now.
Speaker 1:I'm like why the fuck he was there.
Speaker 3:Just know this, and I don't think I'm pretty close with Lorenzo. We became pretty close. I'm actually going October I think it's October 12th or 13th a Sunday. He's fighting again at the Hard Rock. I'm going again, I just bought my tickets and everything. But just know that, dude, for his age and I'm not going to talk about what's going on personally he's going through some shit that nobody in this room where he is that should be going through or can go through and he's going to come out on top and again, I'm not going to get into details, that's his business, but he's going through some real, real, personal shit and I wish him the best Because at 20 years old, we see him he's like this giant man, right? This giant hairy creature.
Speaker 4:I didn't know he was that young.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's 20, bro, like it's crazy. So he's going through some real shit. And dude, we talked about it on the show the movement he has for a heavyweight. If he stays on track he will be something. He's a smaller heavyweight. But you look at Moses Atama, the movement, or even Usyk, a smaller heavyweight. When you have movement and footwork like that, sky's the limit. So props to him. But enough about him, let's just get right into it. I have a fantasy draft at 8.30. If the chat is going crazy, I forgot about it. If the chat is going good, I'm going to just do it from my phone.
Speaker 1:You got a professional right with you right now. I know I do.
Speaker 3:I do. You're going to help me Punch if he's here, but if not, if the chat is going crazy good, I'm going to do the fantasy draft pop out and then pop back in, I guess, Because I know I blacked out, but I had a lot of fun. Man, I streamed for five and a half six hours. That was crazy, dude. I looked, I drank a whole bottle of tequila.
Speaker 3:I don't know what what was really being said. Oh yeah, I do, but it's all right. Um yeah, here we are, though canelo alvarez, terrence crawford. I do want to get some clips chopped up, but this is going to be the new uh, the new way I do things. Here. We're going to talk like 30 minutes to an hour of like real boxing stuff. Just get to the points.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And then we'll do a free for all people popping in.
Speaker 1:Whatever people go on YouTube, they don't want to see an hour, two hours on a motherfucking video.
Speaker 3:I will say, though, the most hits we get are from the radio show, and I didn't post the last one, it was too messy, so for me anyway, but I do like chopping the clips up and stuff, so I want your take Punch and this is it. This is it. It's the week before next week football starts.
Speaker 1:I'm having actually people over this week, yeah, this week Sunday yeah, so we're going to do the preview of Crawford Canelo right now.
Speaker 3:All things Canelo, crawford Punch. You go first. What's your take, what do you think is going to happen? And, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4:No, Hold on. I said what's your take on the Maho stream of Black?
Speaker 1:Wow, damn. He always cancels.
Speaker 3:I think he thinks the stream is going to go out.
Speaker 1:I didn't know Black Friday came early.
Speaker 3:Did that happen?
Speaker 1:Black Lives Matter.
Speaker 3:Yo, punch, I'm going to remove you, just pop back in. You got the Black Lives. Matters Willie what is your take? What is your take, willie, for real, give me an honest opinion. I know you're going for Crawford.
Speaker 1:I'm going for Crawford, but I'm scared for Crawford. That one punch man, that fucking telegraph. You know that hook for Crawford, but I'm scared for Crawford. That one punch man, that fucking telegraph. You know that hook, that Canelo have that hook where he look like it's going to the body and then comes up top.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the same shit. Oh man, I'm scared for that. That's the same hit, that drop. What's? Mccullough, belanga? And I hope Crawford don't get touched up because this is going to be crazy. But you know, triple G said he don't punch as hard as he. I think. So I don't know, maybe, but Crawford, who don't punch as hard as you think? Canelo, yeah, canelo, that's what Triple G said and he's going with Crawford. Punch, you're back, willie, said Willie, just repeat yourself real quick Crawford, man, I'm going with Crawford. I'm not going to change up Everybody, just keep on persuading me. Then I seen the Boots thing. That's a great sparring guy to have that whole team dude.
Speaker 1:It's not fair, because who the fuck is Crawford going to get the mimic?
Speaker 3:Oh my God, punch, your blacked out again. Punch is so vicious on social media. They hacked his phone Insane.
Speaker 4:It's got to be because of what I posted on my story.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're not going to get into that, but we're just friends. You know we keep things boxing here. You know you can pop back in if you want. Try again, it's all good. Can you not hear me? No, I can hear you. Your screen is just pitch black. I mean, yeah, just keep talking then. You can't see me at all. Nah, total black screen.
Speaker 4:What happens if I do this?
Speaker 3:Nope, nope Still. I hear like birds chirping.
Speaker 4:I don't fucking know. People don't need to see me anyway, bro.
Speaker 3:All right, I'm just saying you can hear us though.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, for sure, okay, yeah. So, that being said, I agree with you, willie, in a sense. Does Crawford have the tools? Yes, but there's one major thing that everyone's missing, and I like what Crawford's saying. He's like everyone keeps asking him if he's going to knock him out. You're going to go for the knockout, and he's like, if it's there, I'll take it, but I'm going to go in there to box. I'm going in there to outbox him about what he's saying, which I really really like.
Speaker 3:But Crawford does really really good when he gets his opponent hurt. Before he gets him hurt, it's always a close fight, and then he does what he does and gets him hurt, and I'm not including Spence, because he got Spence out of it, but Porter, until Porter got hurt, porter was in that fight, right. And then you look at recently, when he moved up Madrimov, he didn't hurt, hurt him, and it was a really close fight. And that's madrimov. You know what I'm saying. And now we got canelo freaking alvarez and, and I don't think he has enough to hurt him. There's there's no way he's moving up in weight and is going to hurt him. He's gonna have to outpoint him, the only way crawford wins here. For me is out point, and canelo doesn't throw.
Speaker 3:I think that's exactly how it's going to go, but I don't think. I think Crawford's going to get frustrated when he can't hurt him and shit gets fired back Nah.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. He's so composed, bro, I don't think that's even a possibility for him to even he is composed, but His mental is so strong I don't think that he would stick to the game plan.
Speaker 3:He's only won fights when his opponents are hurt, and I'm not taking anything away from him. He hurts everybody he's faced, except the really really close fights. Even the Elgouskis whatever the hell that guy's name was that kind of knocked him down or whatever. Then he got up and hurt the shit out of him, got him out of there.
Speaker 1:So to me you're— I'm scared for Crawford, but it's either going to go two ways. Either going to go two ways, canelo by knockout or Crawford by points. I don't think Canelo can win by points. Canelo don't throw as much as he used to. I agree with that I don't think that's going to happen. If he can last, it's going to be.
Speaker 3:From the training videos, canelo looks slower. Here's another thing. Who do you think is older? I know Crawford is older. They both have slowed down, in my opinion, as of late. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:But um, crawford's style is not slowed down like his style is made for, like this type of fight. I'm just saying, dude and counter punching. They both counter punch. Good though he moved up in weight and couldn't hurt.
Speaker 3:He's moving up a weight again. I don't think he's gonna aim to hurt him, though yeah, if he out points or whatever, but I don't see him not fighting, so it's going to be a fight.
Speaker 1:I didn't believe the hype I didn't believe the hype.
Speaker 3:I'm actually hyped now because of the unknown. You know what?
Speaker 1:it is. He's. It's gonna the first. The first couple of rounds are gonna be dull. It's gonna be dull and he's gonna try to see where canelo power is he? He probably going to sit there Watch. He probably going to sit there and try to see where his power is at.
Speaker 3:Here's my take. Here's my final take. I think Canelo is going to be like a punching bag for Crawford the first half of the fight and then when Crawford realizes I can't hurt this guy or get this guy out of here, here comes Canelo and I think Canelo is going to win in the second half of the fight and possibly knock him down, maybe once twice. Maybe Crawford will last and do his thing to finish, but I think it's going to be close in that regard and I think they're going to edge Canelo.
Speaker 3:I think they're going to edge Canelo.
Speaker 1:No knockdowns Punch. Can you hear us?
Speaker 3:Punch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:My laptop.
Speaker 4:Okay, willie, you give me your final thought, I'll give my yeah he set up my laptop Okay, okay, but yeah.
Speaker 3:So, willie, you give me your final thought, I'll give my final thought.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'll give my final thought. My final thought is Krof is, I think, well, shkoltz is going to try to take his punches early. He's going to see where his power at, he's going to outbox him and he's going to win by decision. That's all it's going to be. I don't think it's not going to be nothing crazy. It's going to be a great fight. This fight is literally history. I don't know if it's going to be the best fight. It depends which fighter comes out, because he got this training. I was hearing that Canelo was trying to be mad careful with boots so he won't get touched up with boots and shit. So it's like you know, if you're not getting that real sparring, what do?
Speaker 3:you? Yeah, but I think you know, dude, he's the the mexican sparring and canelo's been through them all. They're banging in there, that's just that's just here so yeah you see what virgin ortiz jr said virgin ortiz jr said he sparred him and he's like yo, I hit Canelo with my best shot, my hardest shot, and he went that's it.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think Crawford's going to hurt him.
Speaker 3:No, I don't think so either. So what do you think? So my final thought on this whole thing is what I just said. I mean, I think it's going to be Canelo points Back half of the fight. Canelo's going to come on strong and Crawford's going to be like, damn, I can't hurt this guy and he's. It'll be close, there'll be close rounds, but I do think in the back half of the fight, when Canelo's still there and Crawford's giving him everything he got, Because it is Crawford's going to be on his back foot a lot.
Speaker 1:I understand that, that he might get tired, but you know Canelo would like to walk him down.
Speaker 3:Just remember, canelo moved up to 175 and took Bivel and I know Bivel's not like a hard point, he was taking shots from Bivel and just eating it. Crawford, say what you want, yes, they're around, they look like they're the same size and stuff and they are height-wise and length-wise, but Canelo's that big where if you push Canelo he's not going anywhere. He's big from the waist down, no more. You know what I'm saying. His leg.
Speaker 1:I understand he's an immovable object. This is so. What do you think? Is it 50-50 or 60-40?
Speaker 3:I'd say 60-40.
Speaker 1:Punches back you there.
Speaker 3:He almost here, but I see Punch now I can't hear him.
Speaker 3:Yo, everyone's having technical difficulties today because I was all fucked up. Yo, all right, can you hear me? Yeah, now we're good. Punch is inside. The lighting actually looks good Like the sun setting on. Punch. I like this. Yeah, this is nice. Yeah, so, willie, could I ask you something? Willie, I don't want to bring up fucking race and shit again, but this is what the internet and stuff does. What was your take on the whole fucking? They're like oh, what's his name? Switch sides.
Speaker 1:I wanted to make a video on that. I didn't do it.
Speaker 3:yet what's his name? Switch Sides.
Speaker 1:I wanted to make a video on that I didn't do it yet, and it's Switch Sides. I'm going to make a video on it. I'm going to make a video on it, but what was your take on that? I was like come on, will you shut up? No, I was being funny, though, because you know, everything is a meme. It's a joke anyway. So I was just like oh man, this guy we trying to prove on black and brown relationships, but damn, this is you know it's funny, though white people like white fans.
Speaker 4:We get called racist a lot if we root for a white fighter.
Speaker 3:It's like, oh, you just like him because he's white, because you're racist, and then they fight over shit like that, yeah but that's the way, that's the way it is in sports, though, like like I think a few rappers came out for tank and they're like we love tank because he looks like us, like he dresses, like us.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. I said that I was at a party, at a baby shower, this weekend. I was like yeah, I told them I was joking around, though. I was like y'all going for Crawford, y'all ain't black.
Speaker 4:I don't think it's a problem to go for somebody because they look like you. I think it's a problem to go against somebody because they don't. Yeah, yeah, I think people blur those lines. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That's life, though, man, and everything but a lot of people is going for Canelo.
Speaker 1:Black or Spanish, it doesn't even matter. The smart fans that know what they know. Smart, yeah, y'all ain't going to be smart when the results come in.
Speaker 3:What's your take Punch? How do you see the fight playing out? Take punch, how do you see the fight playing out? We talked about both, both what we see. I said I think, uh, canelo's gonna lose rounds in the beginning and crawford's gonna be like, damn this, I can't hurt this guy because, like I said, crawford if you look at crawford's fights, he only really wins by hurting his opponents. You know what I'm saying. Once you get his opponents hurt, before that it's a close fight. You could even say benavidez was close before he knocked his ass out. I don't think he's going to be able to hurt Canelo at any time. I think he'll win rounds, but I don't think he's going to be able to hurt him. And then in the back half of the fight, canelo's going to be like I got to let my hands go as usual, and yeah, that's me. What do you got?
Speaker 4:I mean, it's two great fighters like. That's why everybody's so excited about it, right like anybody who tries to hate on either one of them.
Speaker 4:No, no I'm not, I don't think either one of you are, but I'm just saying, like, in this sport, we know, people are, yeah, um, but I also think weight classes do exist for a reason, as they, as we say, every time a fight like this happens when people go up multiple weight classes, whether it be jermell Charlo when he fought Canelo, or Mikey Garcia versus Errol, you know IE, etc. And not just that, but you're like going up in weight to fight a really good fighter at that weight and even though Canelo ain't at his best, no more, or isn't the fighter who became undisputed like he's obviously slowed down, he's obviously lost a little bit of something because the wins aren't as dramatic as they were and they're, when they're against, I think, lesser competition than guys that he used to like beat the brakes out yeah but I think it's really hard for you to count out a fighter as great as terence cropper.
Speaker 4:It really is and it's like I got. That's always in the back of my mind when I think about this fight. But the guy also in the reality of it Crawford's only had two fights in the last 25 months. We say that Canelo looked bad against Erlanga or Skoll or whomever, but both those fights have happened since Bud even fought last right Yep, and Bud didn't look great in his last fight.
Speaker 3:And that was what sealed the deal for me on the Canelo. And then it hit me during that Madrimov fight. Well, previewing it right now, I was like yo, bud is really, really good and I'm like great, fucking, all-time great, and I'm not taking anything away from him, but he only wins in emphatic fashion when he hurts his opponents. You know what I'm saying. If he doesn't hurt you, it's a very close fight and some argue, madrimal won that so?
Speaker 1:do you think, so, do y'all think right, if he win by decision, right who?
Speaker 4:he'd have to fight, he'd have to fight.
Speaker 1:Damn, you're perfectly yeah but I'm just saying, if he do, what are y'all gonna say?
Speaker 4:I mean I. You have to give him his credit. You can't like you, you have to.
Speaker 3:That's why I even preceded this with like I can never count out a fighter as great as crawford, the only shot he has to to win, really, in my opinion, is is by a clean decision, because I I really feel that he's gonna, he can outbox canelo. But but the thing is in like the sixth, seventh, eighth round, when canelo's not hurt, and here comes canelo can crawford, withstand the two weight class jump and that immovable object, the best chin in boxing right now. You know what I'm saying like and I don't know if he can.
Speaker 4:People are going to try to say it's an old, slowed-down version of Canelo. If Bud wins, hypothetically if Bud wins, they're going to say that. They're going to say it in a way to discredit him. And he's older, though that's the crazy part he is older, but like, if you have a car from 2013, it could still have less mileage on it than a car from 2017. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, to make that analogy, he's older in terms of calendar. Canelo's definitely got way more on the odometer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a fact. Yeah, he's definitely got way more on the odometer.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's a fact. But either way, because the reality is it is a slowed down, older version of canelo, that bud would be hypothetically still an impressive accomplishment because of the weight class. It's not like this is benavidez beating canelo, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, speaking of benavidez, though, let me, let me ask you this do you think, do you think, benavidez stops canelo?
Speaker 4:I, I have, I have for like the last yeah, year and a half two years.
Speaker 3:Do you think benavidez? I think benavidez can be. It's hard to stop canelo. To me it's just that it's like damn near impossible. And I know it's a different type of power from benavidez. But to me, when, when you go the distance with triple g, twice in triple g's prime you know what I'm saying like, oh, you're really hard to stop because and then again it is a different style of power like his is more of like a machine gun, where, where triple g is a, a cannon with a few machine guns.
Speaker 4:We saw daryl fucking hurt fucking, I don't know yeah I think he could stop him, very similar to the way that bud stops spence.
Speaker 3:Like he may not be out, he may not have to beat a cow, but if he's taken punishment, he just but my thing I was going with that is like there's people on the internet that I've read and I don't even know if they're real people, but that that say benavides, benavides, canidez won't stop Canelo, but they're saying Crawford will, and I'm like, all right, you guys need to stop.
Speaker 1:I'm not even expecting. I'm rooting for Crawford and I'm not expecting him to stop him at all. I feel like he just turns up with his opponent, whoever it is. He just turns up to the moment.
Speaker 4:man, yeah, because one of the points I was going to make is he's a slow starter. Notoriously Crawford is yeah, but he started very fast against Spence. So it's like, is he a slow starter when he's not?
Speaker 3:I think he knew that's what I'm saying. I think he knew he hit Spence with something like oh, I could hurt this guy, and then that's when he fucking let loose His confidence is crazy. I want to see how he comes out His competitive edge.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait, wait, is it Vegas?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Peanut going to my best place. Where are he sitting? I don't know, probably nosebleed Bro 400. 450 for nosebleed? Yeah, he's going, though they're going to be there, my man's in all of them.
Speaker 3:Good for him, man. Canelo's a slow starter too, though to be honest, yeah, he is. That's what I'm saying. I think Crawford knows. I don't think Crawford feels in his heart of hearts he can hurt Canelo. I think he's smarter than that, and he kind of alluded to it with what he said recently, where he was like I'm not going for the knockout, like if I get the knockout, I get the knockout. I'm going in there to win. I'm going in there to win.
Speaker 4:But he's kind of always been like that, like he doesn't go for a knockout or just to win.
Speaker 3:If you look back, though, a lot of not all, but a lot of his fights were versus big names, the bigger names. They were really close until he had them hurt, and that's my only real that, and the weight obviously. And I just feel in the back half of this fight, when Canelo's still there and kind of like Madrimov, the Madrimov fight, he's like like what is going on here, and then here comes, here comes those hooks from canelo, and the jab is still there. I I just feel I don't know, I I'm trying to picture this.
Speaker 3:I feel like when the best way I could compare it to and it is like the caleb plant fight, because caleb was doing really good and and even you could say who's that guy? From britain, the a-hole where canelo broke his eye socket, saunders, yeah, saunders. He was also doing decent. And then it was doing well in the middle rounds, yeah, and then it was like wait a minute. Oh my god, this immovable object is still coming forward at me with that head movement and those looping hard shots are yeah, but canelo hasn't looked like that since that fight.
Speaker 4:honestly, the Caleb Plant fight was the last fight where he looked like Canelo, because then he went up and fought Bavole and got, in my opinion, his ass beat.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he did, I agree.
Speaker 4:And then the third Triple G fight was right after that, where he looked like the old Canelo for about five or six rounds In Triple G's defense.
Speaker 3:that was a very, very old Triple G.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and Canelo still got tired and slowed down in the second half of that fight and honestly, every other fight like. He's not really a combo puncher anymore. I know he's really not Exactly that's his biggest issue.
Speaker 1:The point is Deja Fog on Crowford, the win by. He just got to withstand the storm.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying'm saying here's the thing when he fought charlo, he did, he threw a lot more combos, yeah, and like I'd have to put that out this is gonna sound crazy and and I I really feel like that the latino fighters that he didn't get out of there, like I'm thinking berlanga and um munguia. He did right, he stopped munguia no, he just dropped him.
Speaker 3:He just dropped, yeah, yeah, he hasn't knocked out anybody but I feel like he could have and just decided not to you know, yeah, he definitely buried munguia. Yeah, and definitely berlanga. He carried berlanga, so I think he's coming for crawford.
Speaker 4:Just because of he's black, he's got to be careful, though, like I don't know, I don't know, I still I don't think he's dumb. I don't think he's dumb, I don't think he's reckless. But here's something I always bring up when these types of fights happen, because they kind of go overlooked. Right and one reason I don't like them you're not just fighting somebody bigger than you're used to fighting. You're not just fighting somebody who's bigger than you, who hits harder than you're used to fighting. You're not just fighting somebody who's bigger than you, who hits harder than you, who should have more punch resistance than what you're used to. Going against your body isn't used to carrying the weight. You're going to be fighting it, yeah, because you've never done it. That's a that.
Speaker 3:That's a legitimate thing and and he said, he said you know they're, they're slower at the higher weights and I was like, yeah, but you're moving up in weight, you're also going to be a little, a tad bit slower. You know they're slower at the higher weights and I was like, yeah, but you're moving up in weight, you're also going to be a tad bit slower. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It depends how you put it, on what up, mrfresh87?. He says hello from Boxard Cali, boxnard Cali, what?
Speaker 1:up man. What up Cali Cali in the building.
Speaker 4:My boy lives out out there. He's stationed out there. Actually, shout out to cali for real.
Speaker 3:Uh, I'm I again. I wasn't excited for this. The hype they are promoting it very like. I don't understand the fights that don't need promotion. They promote the fuck out of the fights that need promotion in the mainstream media. They don't like this fight would have sold no matter what, and I see it everywhere. I see it all over the fucking place. I I'll never. I don't know where their heads are at. I don't think they speak to the public, much like whoever's in charge of promotions of these boxing events.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this shit is like around the corner. It's like mediocre.
Speaker 3:No, no, I think it's promoted. Well, I'm seeing it everywhere, man. I mean, a lot of people know it but I feel like I don't see it.
Speaker 1:You know, we're on social media like every day.
Speaker 4:I watched a UFC fight and they actually showed a preview for it on the UFC broadcast. Oh, that's cool, Because Dana White's involved. Yeah, but that's like a good thing to see.
Speaker 3:That's a great thing to see, I hope, going forward this weird rivalry like UFC fans.
Speaker 4:They put it on during football games too, not the coming off. They have no. It on during football games too, not to cut you off.
Speaker 1:They have no, no, you're good. They had the ufc like um. The ufc fans is really talking about it too.
Speaker 4:They asking me at parties and shit what you think well someone yeah, I have dudes in my fantasy league like like, who do you?
Speaker 3:think is gonna win. Yo, latino. He is about to enter the chat. Latino. What up? Yo, yo, what up? Can you hear me going on? Yeah, I hear you. We were just talking Perfect timing. This is going to be a little shorter show. I got to get off here around like 8.20, 8.25. If you're around later, latino, I'll pop back on. We can stream you two punch. I know Willie's got to sleep tomorrow.
Speaker 1:It's a busy day for him.
Speaker 3:It's a just gave our takes on what we think's gonna. Well, fine, all right, I'm gonna do a little round table, real quick. Final thought how does the fight end? I'm gonna go first. I think canelo points with a knockdown. Possibly second half of the fight he comes on. We're talking canelo crawford willie, what's your final take?
Speaker 1:but bob points in the beginning I think he's gonna try to take his punches, see where he's at, and then it's going to be a boxing fanatic after that. You know what I'm saying? Crawford, I hope he don't get dropped by one of those hooks. That so you're going, crawford points. If he don't get dropped by one of those hooks that he comes up like look like it's going to the body, come up top. I hope he don't get hit with one of those.
Speaker 3:I just want to say something. Let's not forget what Canelo did to that white dude's arm when he was blocking.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Canelo loved punching arms.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but that was a 6'3 super middleweight. That ain't going to be somebody stout like fucking Bud.
Speaker 1:Canelo knocks him out in the night Bud style. That's crazy.
Speaker 3:Punch. Final thought on who you got, what you think is going to happen in that fight. Can't switch up.
Speaker 4:I'm going to go. Canelo majority decision.
Speaker 1:I don't think he knocks him down. I don't think he knocks Bud down.
Speaker 4:I think people are going to say, even though he lost, people are going to give Bud respect and they're going to say they want to see him at 160. Yeah, Wouldn't even be surprised if they try to make an immediate rematch.
Speaker 3:Don't be surprised if they try to make an immediate rematch. Don't be surprised to do latino heat. This is willie. By the way, he missed us last time.
Speaker 1:He missed the fucking drunk extravaganza, but he's seen me drunk enough.
Speaker 3:So who do you got, though? Who do you got? Canelo, canelo, how? What's your take on it?
Speaker 2:because you didn't get, I'm gonna I'm gonna see canelo by decision, because the moment crawford feels a solid punch from Canelo, he's going to box much smarter. He's going to go on his bike a little bit. He's going to be more of a counterpuncher. Now Canelo is flat-footed, so Crawford's going to take advantage of that. He's going to move around. He's going to pop some jabs, move around, a couple straight shots, move around.
Speaker 2:But there's no way he's going to try to out-wrestle, out-muscle Canelo. There's no way, because Canelo's too big. He's not going to stay in the pocket with Canelo. Canelo's too big. So his best chance of winning is to try to just simply stick and move the entire fight. But if Crawford is not on point with his footwork, it will be game over for him. So that's why Crawford is you. He's a1, he is like one of the best of our era right now. So that's why I believe that he will be on point for the entire. Of course, and he's he only moves so much. So that's why I say at some point Canelo is going to get his shots and Crawford's going to feel the pressure, but I don't think there's going to be any knockdowns either. I think he'll go to decision for Canelo just because of size. Well, he's the only one.
Speaker 1:I have a question. I can't switch up right now.
Speaker 4:That's fine, though, Like he's an underdog, yeah, like there's nothing wrong with him.
Speaker 3:Let the record state. Let the record state. I'm rooting for the American.
Speaker 1:I'm rooting for Crawford. I'm usually good with underdogs too.
Speaker 3:Canelo beat Triple G a bunch of times. I'm rooting for my guy Kross Beat him twice.
Speaker 2:Canelo did not beat.
Speaker 4:Triple.
Speaker 3:G. That's why I went like this In the first fight.
Speaker 4:he didn't beat him yeah.
Speaker 3:He didn't even draw with him.
Speaker 4:What were you about to ask, though, punch? Okay, let's say Canelo does hurt him right. Knowing Bud, knowing everything we know about him, does he mikey garcia and just try not to get stopped, or does he kel, brook it and say fuck it?
Speaker 1:he's going down.
Speaker 4:He's going to try to win, no matter what I hope he don't, charlo.
Speaker 1:No, I I think I think he's that.
Speaker 4:That was the Mikey Garcia route, just with faster feet.
Speaker 3:So something besides outside of boxing that I always hear about Crawford and that actually Shushu brought it up the last time we spoke to him was his competitive drive. Like he doesn't lose in cards. He makes it personal when they slap box or wrestle, like he was wrestling like Jarrell Miller and like tried to beat him and like almost did. Like he's his competitive drive. And then shu shu said he's like I don't play with him anymore. Like I don't play around with him, like, whether it's basketball, whatever, because he just don't stop like he has. He has this relentless. He's like a real, like tom brady-esque.
Speaker 1:Fucking, I'm gonna win, I'm here to win and that's why I was what Punch said. When Punch said don't expect a rematch, exactly what's going on.
Speaker 4:What he just said expect a rematch because probably going to want that another one. No, I said, don't be surprised if they try to make a rematch. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say, and the money it's generating already.
Speaker 1:He's going to want that rematch and if Canelo loses he's going to be likeatch, you know, and then canelo lose, he gonna buy. Yeah, take it again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, good, do it we do it again real quick. This is, uh, four of the the thanks for playing power rangers, and we all have thanks for playing shirts on. And then there's our leader, our fearless leader over there, I don't have a thing yeah, you're the fearless, you're the one that initiate. You're like, you're like in the backdrop. You're the guy could run in the show in the back, do what I want, not as I do.
Speaker 4:No, I fucking I went to the. I went to the gym today and I did the sauna for 45 minutes after my my lip and I was just fucking drenched I had. I still haven't showered. I had to change my shirt, though, because the last one was soaked.
Speaker 3:I hate that we talked about so let's talk about the undercard a little bit. We already got our takes what the fuck is on the undercard the only fight again and we talked about it last show punch, but because I got so drunk and the chat got so crazy. To me anyway everything was spinning and then this guy, this guy freaking, uh brought in some enemies that were talking shit and it got a little weird, but it was fun though.
Speaker 4:Do that again, dude. I don't think those were trolls. I don't think those were like actually mad people. They wouldn't, they wouldn't show their face.
Speaker 3:I was like no, they wouldn't.
Speaker 1:But they were up in my that's for sure you're not supposed to have them on live if they don't show their face no, they weren't.
Speaker 3:Weren't on live, they didn't even come on at all, they were just messaging shit.
Speaker 4:I've been having Haney fans come after me for the last three days.
Speaker 2:They had Haney fans come after me earlier today.
Speaker 4:Because of your comment on the thrill boxing thing. Same Same, exact shit. Because, haney?
Speaker 3:What'd you guys say?
Speaker 4:Well, haney said that he he's like I don't fight for money, I fight for legacy. I was like oh, that explains demanding a 75% split to fight Tricker. Everybody, all of his fans, come in my comments trying to justify it. I was like the man just said he don't fight for money. Why the fuck are y'all trying to justify the shit?
Speaker 3:Real quick, mr Fresh, in the chat he said obviously it's a little delayed, but he said Kalem will take down Fernando Vargas. That's the only undercard fight Punch and I talked about it last episode. It's the only real one with some buzz. And it's one of those fights where two guys coming up.
Speaker 4:Dude, I don't know. I'm more excited about the Mbili Martinez fight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's another. I'm going to tell you guys something here, like what I didn't like about. I'm sure we're familiar with the page showbiz that dude. Now he was talking about Lester Martinez being Crawford sparring partner and all that. Now, what I didn't like was he, he, he. He basically categorized Lester Martinez as a Mexican. So I'm going to go on record Isn't he Argentinian? No, he's from Guatemala, so that's Central American, which is right beside El Salvador, which is where I'm from. So I'll tell you, I knew Lester Martinez when we competed in a tournament in Honduras. That's where a bunch of fighters were there. So, but anyways, yeah, no, so he's from Guatemala, so that means he's Central American. So it's kind of annoying when you know guys like that, they'll go and they'll like generalize Latino fighters as Mexican.
Speaker 3:So they'll go in and they'll generalize Latino fighters as Mexican Going forward on the show, since we're friends. Now I'm a cliche American white guy and I'm probably going to do that, so just bear with me. But I admit it. I admit when I'm wrong.
Speaker 4:I thought he was Argentinian, bro.
Speaker 1:I was way off, I'm crying Shout out to Salvadorian yeah, don't cut my head off.
Speaker 2:Lester Martinez man. He's a force to be reckoned with.
Speaker 4:He really is. That's why I'm excited about him.
Speaker 2:He won't give Crispin and Billy problems.
Speaker 3:And he's high risk, low reward and something tells me His professional debut.
Speaker 2:he stopped Ricardo Mayorga, who was a former world champion. You know he's fought everybody, ricardo Mayorga, and Martinez just destroyed him in his debut he beat the shit out of Gangora too.
Speaker 1:He's definitely good. He's back to being what Mbili got now.
Speaker 3:I wish I had some connects. Based off what you just said, willie, I feel like Top Rank doesn't want Mbili to fight this fight. That's their powerhouse, that's their guy. They're at that weight, especially that they're fucking pushing. The last time this happened on a on a re-add card I don't know, is this re-add season, whatever on a on a card with the saudis, involving the saudis. But you know what do I salute?
Speaker 4:to him for taking it. Yeah, yeah, 100. Because he could easily be like oh, I'm the avoided guy, nobody wants to fight me. And then if he goes around and does the same thing to this guy, he looks like a fucking hypocrite, which we see several fighters do.
Speaker 1:And top rank fighters don't look mid on them their cards. But look what happened to Jared Anderson.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what I'm about to say Top rank.
Speaker 1:Here's the difference between Jared.
Speaker 4:Anderson and Billy, though Jared Anderson was on record already saying that he wasn't in this for the love of the game. He was in it for money and that's it. People went after him for it and criticized him for it.
Speaker 2:He's like the best heavyweight ever.
Speaker 3:His head too. But that money talks, man. I don't know. Jusuf fought a fucking dumbass fight, yeah, and it's a heavyweight. When you get hit by a heavyweight, it changes. Even if you're a heavyweight one shot changes everything. We were talking Canelo Crawford, but a heavyweight changes the whole trajectory.
Speaker 4:And he got caught doing the same exact thing he'd been caught with before. We haven't really seen in Billy we at least haven't seen in Billy have flaws exposed as much as jared anderson did against uh, charles martin, his biggest flaw was the.
Speaker 3:Was it uh? Devrin chenko, the one-handed, the?
Speaker 4:one thing that it wasn't a flaw.
Speaker 3:He won, but it was like dude, you gotta, you gotta get him out of there.
Speaker 4:When has derivin chenko ever been easy for anybody other than charlie?
Speaker 3:I gained so much respect for devrin chenko. That fight I've always had respect for him. But the Mbili fight I was like holy shit, this guy is like send him to fucking Ukraine. Fucking Putin will be like I'm out of here, bro.
Speaker 3:Don't cancel me. That was just a funny, anyway. But what about? I got to talk about it because again, me and Punch already did. But I'm going to post this one. I'm going to chop this one up and post it because I do have to get out of here early. But Kalem Walsh, my guy, great fucking guy. What do you guys think of this fight? Who do you have? Give me anything. Actually, I want to hear you Latino, because I already heard Punch, and then Punch I'll let you go. And Willie, I want your take on it too.
Speaker 2:Okay. So like I don't know too much about Kalem Walsh, if I'm being honest, I've only seen little bits of him, but he is definitely going to be a problem for Vargas for sure. Now, because Fernando Vargas Jr, you know his upbringing I mean obviously his dad so he's got an advantage right from the get-go that you know he's going to have the best sparring possible from a young age and you know he's seen his dad train when he was a kid. Kids are like sponges, they absorb everything. So you definitely know that he's. You know he's no pushover. He's going to give a fight for sure, but I feel like Callum gonna win the fight it's just, it's not gonna.
Speaker 1:I've never seen an irish fighter fight like him. He fight like he black. So I'm waiting to see. I can't wait to see what he can do next gary colin died, but he just didn't have a chin there's a fight.
Speaker 3:There's a fight and it was one of cem Walsh's hardest fights and I was there and it's a guy from the Bronx, melo Villarreal, villarreal, and he is a tough, tough dude and I actually thought he did enough to win that fight, villarreal. And when you beat a guy like that, or you're even in the ring and go the distance with a guy like that, you're better than how you're portrayed, especially, as he said, like an Irish style fighter. So that's why that guy on your resume, compared to whatever Vargas, his whole resume is something and right there, gives him an edge as it is. So that's why I'm going with Kalem and the guy had beers with me and we were slapping fat people in the chest and shit.
Speaker 3:It was a good night. That's another reason. Yeah, so we buy it. So no, but but for real boxing, prowess alone, resume matters and again, like my thanks for playing shirt says iron sharpens iron. Uh, when, when you, when you are in the ring with a guy like that, a high risk, low reward and via real right, not very marketable, not known, but everyone in the new New York scene knows him and he is a force to be reckoned with.
Speaker 2:At least in the New York scene.
Speaker 3:It's big, yeah, yeah, that's another thing. He's not fighting in Ireland. He's been in Cali with Freddie Roach, now Kalem Walsh, so it's time. This is a huge fight for him. This is a huge fight for him. This is a huge make or break fight and it's going to put him just not the opponent. The Vargas name is going to put him somewhere, but it's going to now put him in that realm of the next tier of boxing. I can't wait. Fun card man. I got to say that this is a fun card. I'm probably going to have people over here. I was going to do like a party, but what weight is that class Really?
Speaker 2:I could be wrong. Hold on, as we all go to search right now.
Speaker 3:I just know he used to spar Jahai Tucker.
Speaker 1:Austin, that's beautiful work. No wonder he fights like he black. He's really smooth out there. I love his style as an Irish fighter.
Speaker 2:It's different 154 looks like 154.
Speaker 3:Damn, he's a big 154 too. I would say 165.
Speaker 2:A lot of these American fighters. They're kind of weight bullies man. They're huge when they sweat down like crazy.
Speaker 4:Fernando Vargas. One of his last fights was Brad Solomon, who's a fucking former welterweight. Got knocked out by Blair Cobbs at welterweight. What, Ed.
Speaker 3:Solomon, who's a fucking former welterweight, got knocked out by Blair Cobbs at welterweight. What's Blair? I know he's not that great, but he's a draw. Blair Cobbs, where's Blair the Flairman?
Speaker 1:He was on air man.
Speaker 2:He was on air. He's on air, Blair Cobbs for sure.
Speaker 4:I saw him on a rumored card. I don't know who his opponent was. Let me look it up. I think he's rumored to be on the Connor Ben Eubank 2 card. That'd be, cool, mrfresh87.
Speaker 3:He should definitely be on that card. Underscoremrfresh87 says seen Kalem fight last month here in Cali. Yeah, man, they're promoting him right out there and he's with Dana White and the tko promotion stuff.
Speaker 4:He's uh, he's rumored to fight kona walker.
Speaker 3:Sorry, kona walker, I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know, that is either hopefully he's on that hopefully he's on that card, though, that card that you just said kind of been that. Yeah, it's rumored that'd be a great.
Speaker 4:That's like this uh catterall versus the guy that just beat josh taylor speaking of connor ben pete.
Speaker 3:Dobson is fighting pistol, pete, he's a new york guy.
Speaker 1:He when he fighting, what car he fighting?
Speaker 3:oh, shit, I forget what car it's on, but it's not.
Speaker 1:I've seen him training he was on, he was sparring somebody. I just seen him on it on a net too. I forgot. But back to the dead stay on track.
Speaker 4:I'm sorry uh, you know what? It kind of reminds me of nicholas flaws. Uh oh, he's gonna get killed, you think so?
Speaker 3:who's fighting nicholas flaws? Uh, pistol, pete dobson? Yeah, I don't think I you're high. I hate flaws because he beat jahai tucker. I fucking hate nicholas falls yeah, oh that's yeah, that dude, and I was there live and I'm like.
Speaker 4:I know he's got a few losses on his record, but that dude I don't like him. Neither. I was hoping he'd fight Rashidi. He's sneaky, he's fucking, he's relentless, he's got good power, he's relentless bro, he comes forward. Go watch that. Jahai flaws fight though, bro. Yeah, I think jahai pulled that yo you in new york over there, I don't know where those, oh no that's my city for you.
Speaker 2:Man bro over here in hamilton and it's like um people under people underestimate how crazy it is here for real, I'm gonna hit you up.
Speaker 3:I gotta look before you came on. I'm going to florida for my guy, the heavyweight, lorenzo medina, fight, um, and you know, I I got. I'm actually going to like fright night. You know how it is, uh, when you have it, when you have a girl. Every time I go away for a boxing match. We got to do something nice, you know. So we're going to like oh 100 orlando studios fright night. Like yeah, so that's what we're supposed to go to six guys.
Speaker 3:The third, um this guy's, mr fresh. The sirens are on the way to pick up Crawford Yo.
Speaker 2:They're just waiting by the ringside. Man for Crawford.
Speaker 3:I gotta see, but we might do a little Canada trip and go to that card. I'll hit you up, man.
Speaker 2:Oh, Montreal Dude, if you guys end up actually going, I might actually maybe I might go. I don't want to go to Canada.
Speaker 3:so bad, yo, come with me. We'll talk after. Let's stay on track.
Speaker 2:We'll stay on track, boys, because that's let's be friends over at that part of.
Speaker 3:Canada. I'm going to start taking Adderall before these fucking, because I'm all over about boxing.
Speaker 1:I'm like Sorry.
Speaker 2:What fight is in Canada? I grew up with Mary in the boxing community. I grew up loving Michaela.
Speaker 1:Michaela was one of the fighters on Coach's trip. I was saying earlier yeah, yeah, we definitely getting kicked out over there.
Speaker 3:Nah, they love me, top ring crew, they love me. You know that, yeah, but I'm saying we ain't came to the top ring. But yo, what were you saying? Punch about Kaitlin Walsh?
Speaker 4:You had something to say, say, and then we just all, oh, you know what it kind of reminds me of, because it's like both guys are like semi-decently known, I guess. Right, remember when Benavidez and Plant fought and they actually put a good card under it? Yeah, you remember the co-main of that fight? No, it was Joey Spencer and Jesus.
Speaker 3:Ramos yeah, joey Spencer is sneaky good.
Speaker 4:Right and he had a little bit of hype around him. Same thing with Ramos. And then the fight happened and the guy who people were way higher on and had a bigger belief in beat the shit out of the other guy. And I kind of feel like this is a not quite to the level of that, but it's you know one. I feel like most is a uh, not quite to the level of that, but it's you know one. I I feel like most boxing experts are much higher on callum than they are.
Speaker 3:Fernando jr boxing experts, yes, but but money wise and who's more marketable? That vargas name and what his brother's doing, and yeah, exactly what his brother's doing yeah that and and that's another thing, this dude.
Speaker 4:I don't know Callum's background, but I know that Vargas has never had a want go unmet in his life.
Speaker 3:Yeah, do you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:A lot of give me's yeah, and I think if the fight gets tough now, don't get me wrong. He's got power, he's got decent punching technique, but it's also like he's displayed that against. Oh, who's that list of opponents?
Speaker 3:right limited, I would say limited opposition like very I'm actually because I could have probably got caleb on the show. I just don't want to bother him. So close to a big fight I didn't. I get like you know a little. So after the fight win or lose I'm gonna try and get him on. We could all pick his brain. He's fun, um, I and I. One thing I think vargas thinks going into this is he thinks he's gonna have the crowd because it's cali but I don't even think the crowd's going to be full yet.
Speaker 4:They're not going to fill in until the call.
Speaker 3:I mean noise-wise, they show up for their fighters, but I don't think he's ready for the.
Speaker 1:The Irish people fucking pay money, fly worldwide and they show up anywhere for their fighter and they're going to be there from the first fight With the flags.
Speaker 4:I also bet Liam or Callum doesn't give a fuck about the crowd either way. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Vargas, that's the point I'm making. Vargas, that'll fuck with them. A little Like what the fuck With those soccer chants the Irish soccer chants.
Speaker 1:Yo. When you see, did you hear them walking down New York City?
Speaker 2:Yeah, like it's crazy, terrence Serrano was just all soccer chance, especially in the area I was sitting there. I was like yo, this is sick. Join the crowd.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I always tell people too, like the Irish fan base. Again, the fighters are a little underrated, I want to say, but when they come to America they get a lot of bad decisions, a lot of bad decisions.
Speaker 4:I've seen, you've seen, we've seen live a lot of bad decisions. Who was that guy that that got robbed against barbosa last?
Speaker 3:year on the haney card. Oh, oh, oh, the the lanky guy. Yeah, he was irish, wasn't he? Yeah, yeah, he beat the shit out of him. Barbosa had nothing for him. The tall, lanky guy, he got robbed. That was a huge robbery, yeah. And then we've seen live on the undercard. We've seen some shit like undercards like what the fuck? And they get robbed a lot because they're not known and the crowd is always electric for their guy, like it is crazy. There's another one recently, the vito milanicki, for an irish guy. That guy turned out to fail a drug test.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was going to say that that doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:That was another one where I was like, oh, I was rooting for Vito. That went draw though, didn't it? Yeah, it was a draw, I don't think Vito.
Speaker 1:Who was the tough one? That's the one that we seen at MSG. That was the Vito.
Speaker 4:That dude was tough. Yeah, because he was fucking I don't know what. Did they ever say what?
Speaker 3:Nah, they didn't say what, but they said banned, and no one commented. He popped hot for something, boy. It was tough. They were late, though, on that, I thought. Speaking of that. Yeah, dude, that fight was yeah, that was a long comment. That was Valentine's Day. Yeah, dude, that fight was yeah, that was a long time.
Speaker 4:He's fought since then. That was.
Speaker 3:Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for real Literally.
Speaker 3:That's when I had the heart on my head. We got a lot of followers from me being a drunk hooligan.
Speaker 4:Bro, I'm going to be honest with you. This fight card fucking sucks.
Speaker 3:You think so. Not those three, though I think those three are good.
Speaker 1:The three main, or whatever. I don't think people, I don't even know who's on the under-under fight I don't think people want to pull up and do the other fights.
Speaker 4:The only other fight that's even somewhat notable in my opinion is Bo Huchuk versus Adams.
Speaker 3:And that's even that should have been Bo Huchuk. They're kind of just thrown to the wind putting him on the under-under card $400 a nosebleed yeah, right I would not go, not, and again we talked about this, but not nosebleed in like a small arena. You're nosebleed in a fucking nfl football stadium.
Speaker 4:Well, the turkey's doing this one thing. That's really annoying the fucking shit out of me. So he keeps putting that japanese guy and this saudi guy on these main cards, like do what top right does. Put them on the televised, the non-main card, but give them some exposure, build them up that way he's like the ambassador, or whatever, the ring ambassador of the Japanese, I don't want to see him on a fucking pay-per-view card.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, bro, he is tiny Bro that first fight. We've seen him in person. I didn't even know who that was person.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I didn't even know, who that was.
Speaker 1:We met him. We met him, dude, he's like dude.
Speaker 4:They're both on this card, him, and that saudi dude that fights like uh, ryan garcia.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I'm what's his? Name smaller than me. He's like a little, I forget his name.
Speaker 2:I know he's the type of guy where you know you literally have to hold his hand. Yeah, get a decision I will.
Speaker 3:I will say that he's, he is getting better at the. You know, he's learning the ropes. You know what I'm saying? I heard I'm not going to name a fighter, but there's a fighter that's really bad with money. I'll tell you guys off air. But there's a fighter that's really really bad with everything and money, but still in the mix for some reason.
Speaker 1:I heard Turkey is withholding a lot of his money making sure he gets on track the heavyweight.
Speaker 3:Okay, thanks, willie, but I heard, I heard he's withholding a lot of his money, like to make sure he gets, and you know he hasn't. And he's just withholding his money like no, this was in the fine print of the contract like you gotta, you gotta, do your thing to to get this money that I owe you, which is kind of he's. He's trying to promote good things in a sense with that. I mean, if that's true, if that's totally true.
Speaker 4:I don't, I don't know. I just I just never thought in the current landscape that the PBC would be putting on a better card than Turkey. And they are. I got to call a spade a spade they are.
Speaker 3:Let's talk about that card we got some time. Now You're talking about the the thurman announcement.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the thurman fundora card.
Speaker 3:That's a really good card, dude. I at first, when I first saw it, I'm like come on, what the fuck is this? But then when you, when you watch uh fundora and how he gets hit, you're like wait, thurman, thurman might be able to do something here, like he's thurman's off, like five, seven bro, yeah, yeah. But look at Tim Zhu right, tim Zhu's not that big and he lost, you know, eventually. But he was fighting Fandora in that first fight. In that first fight, if he didn't get cut like that, I think he would have knocked Fandora out.
Speaker 2:He would have won that fight if it wasn't for the cut, I think, but yeah the second fight Tim.
Speaker 4:Zu's spirit was already kind of gone. He just looked like shit, bro. His footwork was terrible. They're calling me your boy Fulton. He's on there fighting.
Speaker 2:I will give him that respect, though he ducked the champions at 126. He's moving up to fight a bigger champion. I'll give him that. It's like all right.
Speaker 1:Same thing. Fighting on that card? Yeah, against Jesus.
Speaker 3:Ramos and speaking of our guy Jahai Tucker man. I want Jahai Tucker to fight Shane Mosley Jr. That's my dream fight. I think Shane Mosley Jr he's done well. He got better from. I think he has a loss right. He got better from. I think he has a loss right. He got better from that, he's got a couple losses. Yeah, he showed improvement. That'd be a great name for Jahai. Yeah, I want my guy Jahai Tucker to. That's a great name.
Speaker 4:You know who can fight for Jahai and I think it could happen. Who?
Speaker 3:Vito, oh yeah, they're boys, but yeah, they spar a lot, are they? They're bullies.
Speaker 4:But yeah, they spar a lot. They spar a lot, yeah. Or if you want to give Jahai a showcase fight, give him Butler.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I don't care what you're doing.
Speaker 3:Oh, Stephen.
Speaker 2:Butler yeah, I hope he kicks the shit out of Butler Butler sucks dude, I'm sorry. I don't like him, man, like he's.
Speaker 4:you know, I personally don't like him, but you know what? A lot of people have told me that? Well, not a lot. You're like the buttery heat. I'll tell you I don't like Butler.
Speaker 2:He was always just this arrogant dude. It's like, bro, who are you?
Speaker 4:I don't trust a white dude with a lineup.
Speaker 3:He's overrated, dude, he's super overrated.
Speaker 4:He's not good Stylistically though him and I really don't.
Speaker 3:I will say though oh my God, dude N Parnellian just wrote okay, why am I not mentioned on here? There you go. You're mentioned. Merry Christmas, there you go.
Speaker 4:Bro, she called me today. I'm in the parking lot, oh good, she knows. Parking lot, oh I'm good she knows. I was in the walmart parking lot and she was talking about some shit with her job and she was telling a story like most ratchet chicks tell the stories like, and he fucking told me this. I told him that, dude, she, I don't think I said a word for like eight minutes. She loves, I'm just. I'm just letting you know what was this? Oh yeah, she was trying to play me yesterday in the chat.
Speaker 2:Like yo, you talk too much because I was trying to hype up the thanks for playing video that I uploaded today.
Speaker 4:Who the fuck is harder to say. Anybody talks too much, Yo you?
Speaker 2:know what I love about me. That's when I found it funny. I didn't even take it seriously.
Speaker 3:I love when someone doesn't know a fighter Like you know we all know our boxing in that chat for the most part know we all know our boxing in that chat for the most part everyone's better in their own way at something right. But when someone doesn't know, like what's going on, she's like she's like who the fuck is this guy? It was like andre burda. Like I like that, like yeah, she's just like because I'm like like I don't know who the fuck. That is, just be real. Like if you don't know, you don't know it's okay and I like that but, oh for sure, um yeah, what else we?
Speaker 3:Well, who else is on that undercard, though? The PBC one?
Speaker 4:There was. There's one that I'm missing, but we got, you got the shop phone card, you got the as the co-main and you got mostly Ramos at 160. So Ramos is moving up.
Speaker 2:Oh shit.
Speaker 4:And then 154 before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm looking right. The 154 before. Yeah, I'm looking right now to see the undercard. I don't know who Tony Harrison is.
Speaker 3:Yeah you do. You know, tony, tony Harrison was like oh yeah.
Speaker 4:Tony Harrison is on that. That's who it was.
Speaker 3:He's coming off a win Always calls. Was it? Who was it? Charlo?
Speaker 1:I got to see his face.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the Charlo fight where he did work.
Speaker 1:I got to see his face. He won the first Charlo fight.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:It was Charlo, and then he got knocked out in the second. But what's crazy is I thought he looked better in the second fight than the first fight Me too.
Speaker 3:Same thing as I bet. I remember I bet on that. See, that's Tony. He actually yo Punch. When you commented to me you were like dude, look at his face. And I'm like holy shit, look at his face. And then I actually commented on his post and that promo they did. They gave him like a unicorn thing, remember oh yeah, his head. I actually commented and I was like dude, are we just going to ignore that? He's got a bulge coming out of his head? And he wrote ha ha ha. What the fuck. That's all it took, bro, fan for life. Love Tony Harrison. Clarissa Shields is like his boy. They're both Detroit.
Speaker 4:He used to train your girl actually when she won her title. There's rumors they did a lot my girl or his girl. Yours.
Speaker 1:Oh, Alicia yeah.
Speaker 4:When she beat his girl.
Speaker 1:Beat. Oh, I meant to bring that up. When we seen her, I meant to say like oh, I love when you beat Mikaela.
Speaker 3:I should have said that in front of you.
Speaker 1:I wanted to say that I forgot.
Speaker 3:I was actually telling Latino Heat that I was like yo. She wasn't very tall Like Clarissa. Right, when we talked to Clarissa, clarissa is like very, like, very right away, boom, boom, yeah, like just a regular person yapping it up with us. Alicia was like fucking a little standoffish I thought she was.
Speaker 1:She is standoffish um, I will say I think um carissa was there too yeah, that made it even more because she's so loud and like and yeah, it was. She is like she couldn't she, she wouldn't have no light on her, so she's like she wasn't them types, probably like you had to put the light on her type shit, I'm going to fix another drink.
Speaker 3:I got like we got like 15 more minutes and then I got to start preparing for this draft. Latino if you're back around or punchlines, I know Willie's got to go when we get done Okay.
Speaker 4:I want to watch Belichick's first college game.
Speaker 2:What time should we hop back on? In an hour or something? What team are you?
Speaker 3:coaching for North Carolina. Hit me up and we can just go back. I'm not going to record it.
Speaker 4:They're playing right now. I noticed the later we go, the more people come they're playing right now.
Speaker 1:I noticed the later we go, the more people come. I picked TTU 100%.
Speaker 4:They're the favorite.
Speaker 3:I'm going to make a drink. You guys yap it up. We got 15 minutes and then I know you wanted to touch on the amateur circuit in Canada and Willie's the amateur guy out here Am.
Speaker 2:I really, because I got to know I was, he was. Usa Boxing's got the same problem as uh canadian boxing. What no promotion? Oh, dude, like I'm talking, yeah, the amateurs like the national team and just like the, the system and all that. Hey, I might get flamed at some point, uh, by one of them, but who cares, it's got, it's got to be talked, it's got to be told.
Speaker 1:So what's going on?
Speaker 2:uh, but yeah, that'll be. That'll be later on, though, because, like right now, I actually do have to go so yeah, you have a good night, bro, you too like. No, I'll be back on a little later, like in an hour or so yeah, willie ain't gonna be there, though willie gotta. Yeah, we got it we'll get it, we'll get. Yeah, we'll get to that chat, don't worry. At some point For sure, all right boys Easy.
Speaker 1:Later. Bro, I need to get back into that shit. Actually, what Amateur boxing? Yeah, all my little mans and them, they be all fighting, they all up in there. Eric they all just won. Eric won.
Speaker 3:Jaden won, just so you know, punch Eric and Jaden. It's like a cool combo when we live, like it's Hispanic and Polish. It's like crazy, there's a huge Polish population and a huge Hispanic population. And then you got. You know, north Amityville is very African-American, said correctly. See that I'm learning. No, but for real, it's a very diverse area in that regard is very African-American, said correctly. See that I'm learning. It's a very diverse area in that regard. But these two fighters that came up together and they're doing work in the amateurs, we saw them start from nothing. One's a Polish, curly-haired white guy who's a dog. Then Jaden Harvey. Jaden Harvey is like a black dude who fights kind of as a pro style, very patient and uses distance, and it's just cool to see them thriving.
Speaker 1:They came up in our gym too.
Speaker 3:Man Trained them a little bit, so it's cool to see them now, and like you see how they grow like body, wise, they getting big At that age, bro. They're what? 17, 16? Solid. Ripped up 14, they were nothing, Little babies. Now I'm like what the fuck they live life, though.
Speaker 1:They do the boxing. Well, the Polish do, eric, his dad is strict. I ain't going to say it. His dad was so strict. I didn't like how he was coaching them because he used to curse at them. Crazy in Polish and all that. I'm like, damn, take it easy on that drill, sergeant, shit yeah he was. He's still strict like that, but he's police too. I didn't know that, so that's so. This is like you know. He really is strict with him. But now his son, he won his first national, so that's him, him and jayden they.
Speaker 1:They came up in the same gym. Jayden was taekwondo before he did taekwondo jayden harvey.
Speaker 3:His dad was a pro too. His dad's funny.
Speaker 1:He's always here from georgia taekwondo shit probably helped him with like uh, it's his point fighting system though, yeah yeah, like in and out, in and out on your feet when he spars.
Speaker 3:They get fucking annoyed.
Speaker 1:They get very annoyed, like because he's just distance patient, jab, jab like yeah you see a lot with like guys that come from like karate or taekwondo he's starting to sit down on his punches now, so it's like he's starting to get people out of it and his dad's smart, like so he, he was a righty.
Speaker 3:I remember when I trained with him stuff he was a righty. Then in the come up his dad was like nah, you're gonna be a lefty, you're gonna be a lefty, so he's a natural righty. That just his dad drilled in him switch.
Speaker 1:But now then his dad was like no more switching, you just don't want to go on the southpaw, which is cool technically he's a switch hitter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because he can really switch.
Speaker 1:He did that in taekwondo. He kicked. He kicked both feet. He kicked me before with the body thing. Or I'm like yo, he was like 15, I'm like yo. That's crazy. He kicked college, you know 16 he's 17. He's 18, he just graduated. Yeah, he just graduated, so he's cool to see, though, like the diversity he's going pro soon though.
Speaker 1:Yeah and um his and jerry, his, his and his father is like Havoc. All of them Like he's close with Havoc and all of them the boxing. What's his face? Who is what's McCauley? You know him.
Speaker 3:What's his damn name? The bald hair, rozier Rozier, yeah, yeah, andre Rozier and him are boys.
Speaker 1:Yes, he brought him to New York. Actually, Coach Jerry To box.
Speaker 3:At Gleason's? No, no, he brought him.
Speaker 3:He basically talked, jerry into coming to New York and bring his son to box because of the New York circuit or whatever, but they train a little bit here and there. Rozier doesn't train at Gleason's anymore either. He just bounces all over the place. I think I don't think he has like a home gym Funny story about I heard that gym went downhill what uh, gleason's yeah, I mean it's still popular as fuck and everyone.
Speaker 3:They throw a lot of amateur tournaments and and it's more of, though, like I don't know, the cops and kids in new york is what took over like cops and kids gyms because they're they're free and they're in every, they're on the bottom of every project. Towel is huge on the east coast, yeah, but like the new york city, cops and kids is like different, but they, they have gyms in the bottom of like projects right. So like you just walk downstairs and you're in a gym and it is good, it's good to see, but they kind of took over the amateur circuit. So always in on long island when, when we beat cops and kids, people were like like, yeah, but now the Long Island circuit is sneaky man, sneaky good, sneaky good circuit for amateur fighters. And we do have some pros out here, like Chris Algieri, obviously Our guy Alex Vargas.
Speaker 3:His nephew, yeah, his nephew, his nephew, his nephew.
Speaker 1:Yeah, his nephew is nice too, mike.
Speaker 3:Mikey, mikey, algieri. He's going pro soon too, I heard, so there'll be another Algieri on the scene, does he?
Speaker 4:have just a strictly boxing background Because Chris had, like he was like a kickboxing world champion, a wrestling state champion.
Speaker 3:He had like all kinds of shit in his background.
Speaker 1:So Mikey, his nephew, I'm friends with his dad.
Speaker 3:Big Mike.
Speaker 1:He's got to be black, he's half half he.
Speaker 3:I'm friends with his dad, big Mike, he's got to be black he's half-half, he's got to be half-half.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's half-half, he's definitely black.
Speaker 3:He's just strictly boxing, boxing his whole life. His dad's a big boxing guy. He comes here sometimes Always drinking Heineken Lights. I'm like I got to go buy Heineken Light, sorry, but yeah, that's really it for the Spar Inboxing Podcast. Today we all got our picks in for the big fight fight of the century, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be on a cruise. Y'all don't know how I'm going to watch it. Mega fight. Oh, you won't be here.
Speaker 4:Which cruise line?
Speaker 1:Oh boy Royal Caribbean.
Speaker 4:I'm a little shocked.
Speaker 1:Why is that?
Speaker 4:I thought you were going to say Carnival.
Speaker 3:Why.
Speaker 1:Why would you think he's going to say, carnival, okay, me and my daughter's going.
Speaker 2:I would not be in Carnival?
Speaker 3:I'm just kidding, yeah they be wilding.
Speaker 1:They shut everything down.
Speaker 4:Bro, where's it going?
Speaker 1:Like Bahamas, or something yeah, Bahamas and shit. I really don't even know. To be honest, it is Bahamas, though I don't pay attention to that shit. I love cruises.
Speaker 3:Some people hate cruises bro.
Speaker 1:I went on one I've never been one, I went on one.
Speaker 3:It's my first one, I went on one. We got the all-you-could-drink, all-you-could-eat package. The only thing was it was the food is good, it is good. Yeah, I'll never go on one of those fucking things.
Speaker 4:Don't really. If it is, if you drink, bro there and you get the drink package, first of all I was in the fucking navy. I don't want to go cruising around on a boat, no more. But yeah, real talk. I had a dream that I talked to god and god said if I ever went back on the ocean I'd die. So I've always been really paranoid about fucking going out on a boat.
Speaker 3:That's some really good weed man, you know what?
Speaker 1:I don't think you were supposed to say that before I leave.
Speaker 4:No, it was directly to me.
Speaker 1:I know that because it might just be transferred to me.
Speaker 3:No, I feel what you're saying though, because, like I, people are always like, oh, and I was in the air force and I've been on a million planes all over the freaking world and out there, you know, you get like engine failures. We hit a bird once and like crazy, shit happens right, and people are always like, oh, oh, why don't you go skydiving? Or I'm like because I I can't wait to go. I'll go on a plane, but like I'm like, I'm not going anything— I'm going skydiving.
Speaker 1:I'm not flirting with the devil.
Speaker 3:I'm not flirting with the devil.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying I'd rather go out. I'll go out, like that I'm good. I'm good with my tequila and energy drinks.
Speaker 3:Yo, but that's it. It is now 8.13 pm.
Speaker 4:I got to chop this shit up. He's not the last guy.
Speaker 3:Nah, I'm just winging it.
Speaker 4:I can help. I just did my draft on style. How many teams is it? I think 10. I got to check it. Pr, standard PR yeah, save it. What pick are you?
Speaker 3:Two.
Speaker 4:Go Bijan, Don't be tempted to take unless Chase is there.
Speaker 3:I'm taking Saquon.
Speaker 4:I think, think man at two you're an idiot, I don't know man.
Speaker 3:At two he still got a chip on his shoulder. Bjorn I had bjorn last year and he did good at the end but it took a minute won me a championship again. This is a boxing podcast. We are out. Thank you all for listening. Uh punch, we'll keep in touch later later y'all peace.