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The Great Boxing Era Nobody's Talking About: USYK, BAM, PACS RETURN & MORE
When boxing historians look back at this era, they'll wonder why we didn't appreciate what we had. That's the passionate sentiment driving this episode as we break down a weekend that showcased both the brilliance and frustration of modern boxing.
Oleksandr Usyk's masterful performance against Daniel Dubois highlights why he's not just the undisputed heavyweight champion, but one of boxing's pound-for-pound kings. We analyze how Dubois failed to implement the body attack that might have given him a chance, and how Usyk's combination of movement, precision, and killer instinct when his opponent was hurt proves why he's special at any age.
Meanwhile, Jesse "Bam" Rodriguez delivered another dazzling performance that leaves us asking: why isn't this technical wizard a household name? With footwork reminiscent of Lomachenko but an aggressive style all his own, Bam represents everything great about boxing's current talent pool yet remains criminally undermarketed.
The conversation takes a critical turn when examining Manny Pacquiao's return against Mario Barrios. What does it say about today's champions when a 46-year-old legend can fight to a draw against a current belt holder? We don't hold back in our assessment of what this means for Barrios' future and the welterweight division.
From Sebastian Fundora's thrilling stoppage of Tim Tszyu to our preview of Bruce "Shu Shu" Carrington's upcoming interim title fight, this episode captures the full spectrum of emotions that only boxing can deliver. Join us as we celebrate the sport's high points while pushing for the recognition its stars deserve.
Don't miss our closing announcement about upcoming giveaways – we're making it a point to reward our loyal listeners with boxing memorabilia and exclusive merchandise in future episodes!
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Speaker 3:I think we're live fellas. I'm always having issues with this.
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Speaker 1:Football season is coming up, we might, we might lose him.
Speaker 3:We're with Punch and Willie.
Speaker 2:Look at the pin on my hat.
Speaker 1:That's a cowboy.
Speaker 2:No, you don't know who that is, it's Paul Blart.
Speaker 1:I can't even see it.
Speaker 2:No, it's Doug Heffernan boy.
Speaker 3:We are here off of this great fucking Saturday. It is Sunday. Big boxing palooza Willie came over. We watched some fights outside. I know Punch and I were texting.
Speaker 1:Watched one fucking fight.
Speaker 3:Willie came over and watched one fight, but I needed that. We were just talking Punch. Sometimes you need a little relaxation. We were coming off a crazy boxing hiatus and just non-stop boxing, boxing, boxing yesterday was the same thing, but it was nice to just be alone. You know, I even smoked a cigar and I'm not even a cigar guy. Oh man, I love cigars really. You smoke, yeah, no, just one. I. I actually I'm not gonna say that I do like cigars, I enjoy a cigar, but, like bro it, it literally feels like my teeth are rotting out of my head when I'm done it takes forever to get that taste out of your mouth too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, dude, it's like the first time I ate ass. It was like I just couldn't get it out of my mouth.
Speaker 1:I automatically take a shit.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 1:I smoke cigars, a hookah goes right through me. Sly Tendencies has just entered the chat.
Speaker 3:These bitches make me shit bad. Oh the tobacco. What are they called you?
Speaker 1:be chewing tobacco.
Speaker 2:No, I used to. I chewed tobacco for 15 years and then they came out with these little nicotine pouches. So I just do them.
Speaker 1:You was playing baseball.
Speaker 2:Nah, I grew up in a cowboy town. Well, I didn't grow up there. I lived there throughout, like my last year in middle school and most of high school, and then then I was in the navy for nine years, and everybody dips in the military. Yeah, I don't smoke. I've never smoked a cigarette in my life, but I dipped tobacco for a long ass time.
Speaker 3:So I said coffee, nicotine equals mud.
Speaker 1:But all right enough about but we gotta keep this up. This is a boxing podcast.
Speaker 3:Again, we have a lot to talk about, and I'm going to try and do this fast, because the last time was three fucking hours. Willie, my man Willie over here, is very tired. We get going, though. I mean, it's all good vibes, and if the chat gets going, I might have a surprise for some people.
Speaker 1:I mean, y'all can keep it going, bro yeah, bro yeah I told you.
Speaker 3:Actually, then again, we don't need Willie.
Speaker 1:I'm just kidding, I need Willie.
Speaker 3:For a whole hour.
Speaker 2:I fucking need you, Willie.
Speaker 3:I finally figured out how to go full screen. Nice, nice, you can see us up close and personal. I think I should have turned the lights up, but whatever, let me just give you the rundown, real quick, of what we're going to talk about Oleksandr, danny Dubois we're going to recap that Jesse Bam Rodriguez versus Fumilia Cafu I don't know if I'm saying that right, I don't really care. Pacquiao is back. That fight disgusted me. We're going to speak on that and obviously, a lot of what went on in the undercard, to include Sebastian Fundora, tim Zhu, our boy over there, the great American, the great American hero. Yeah, we're just going to get right into it. You guys want to start with Usyk and Dubois too. That's fine with me, bro. You want to start at the top and work our way down.
Speaker 3:I just want to say I actually want to hear Willie, because Willie was here for this fight. We watched it.
Speaker 1:You want to hear how fake Puma is.
Speaker 2:You're a Dubois fan, huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm kind of sort of I know Usyk is a way better fighter and I always pick, I pick Usyk over Fury, but it's like I was just rooting for him. Hopefully he can land something. You know what I'm saying. He was getting better, but you know, look how fake Puma was.
Speaker 3:How was it fake't fake? He was.
Speaker 1:He was. Yeah, you know why he was on that Usyk's ball.
Speaker 3:I was.
Speaker 2:You know why.
Speaker 1:I don't blame him Dude. Oh my God, he's so great.
Speaker 3:Because I thought the first Fury fight right. I knew Usyk was going to win. I just had a feeling I was bad with Usyk.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I always back my guys. I'm a Fury guy, so I was like, oh, Usyk's definitely going to win the first fight.
Speaker 1:Yo, I'm telling you, Fury's going to win the second one. He's going to win it.
Speaker 3:Second one is when I really became an Usyk fan because I was like, damn bro, he did it twice, Like that is crazy. And then how you win matters man, Like how he beat, but Dubois was on a heater, he was on a heater Better than I've ever seen him.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And how he won? He's never. He never looks like he's in trouble. Usyk never looks like he's in trouble, Right? Can you name a spot when he looked like he was in trouble?
Speaker 2:The first Fury fight, it seemed like he was hurt at one point.
Speaker 3:It was like seemed like he was hurt at one point. It was like very wrong, but like very close.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's how good fury is. And he beat his ass twice. I don't know I I had oh sick of my pound pound. He was number one. That's when people were saying like, oh, heavyweights can't be.
Speaker 3:Remember that shit the comments people were just weird anyway.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I was hoping dubois did something, but uh, that's my boy man. He bounced back. I think he's two. He might be number two over there, but Parker, I think probably Parker is going to be the next fight?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't, I mean Punch. What was your take on the fight and your analysis on Usyk?
Speaker 2:I didn't think he was going to stop him that early, but watching it like Dubois was coming out to put pressure on him, his whole thing was like going to the body, because going to the body bothers Usyk and he never went to the body.
Speaker 1:Dude, I have that. I think because of that low blow shit he was like I'm not doing it no more. I have that written down. Weird bro, that was so weird.
Speaker 3:That was a good point you made. So what I had written down was that same thing, but with a little kind of twist on it, Like maybe it wasn't a low blow, Because that's what I started thinking. Maybe that first one wasn't a low blow. Or no, I'm saying I'm sorry. I'm sorry I fucked that up. Maybe it was a low blow. It was a low blow, Because why would you not go back?
Speaker 2:yeah, maybe like a few times, like I can't remember clearly, but I just remember. The only thing I remember was him throwing that straight right. That was the only punch.
Speaker 3:I was like landing for uh, yeah, the one, two and then stopping. And also he came in way too big. He was you can't. He came in too big and tried to outbox the boxer. Like what are you doing if you're coming in that big?
Speaker 1:just, jump on his ass. Just jump on him, manhandle him like throw a shoulder or something, get dirty. Yeah, he just fucking sat there, just took mad punches to the head. Oh man, he, he disappointed me, man. I don't know what happened to him you know what he did?
Speaker 2:oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, no, I was gonna say no wonder he dropped out?
Speaker 1:I was about to say, well, no wonder he dropped out of the fight yeah what car was that?
Speaker 2:that was that that I want to say. That was the card in February that had, like the B-Bowl better be every match.
Speaker 1:He got sick or whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah that's when Okoli Replaced him or Bacoli right, yeah, they flew him in In like 24 hours or whatever, yeah.
Speaker 2:I was going to say that he showed Something that the great fighter show, something that canelo's lost, but something that bud's been renowned for. In a way, when they get you hurt, they get you out of there, and we got him hurt and fucking. The fight was pretty much over dude.
Speaker 3:And again I, we, we kind of gassed dubois up and he was getting better. I have to say he was getting better with the Anthony Joshua win. Who's?
Speaker 1:we gassing. I'm the only one, I'm the only one that gassed him up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Hergovich too, that's another one.
Speaker 1:The line Vegas gassed him up too.
Speaker 3:That line was so close for no reason. I really didn't give him a shot here. He'd have to knock him down and go to the body and attack the body, like we said, and he just didn't do that at all. It made no fucking sense to me.
Speaker 1:It was bad.
Speaker 2:There was a lot of shit yesterday that made no sense to me.
Speaker 3:We're going to get into it and again, I'm going to try and keep this fast.
Speaker 1:Your video you made. That was fucking epic. I don't know how the fuck you do this shit Like the longest yard, oh that one. What it reminds me of this guy Like the same slow like big as hell, dumb.
Speaker 2:It just comes in my mind, bro. I'm not even going to lie, you got a sick brain. Sometimes I have shit planned out beforehand, like there's always narratives to fights. I'll be thinking, okay, if this happens I can go this route, like if Barrios lost, for example, last night.
Speaker 1:What'd you ask?
Speaker 2:I was going to do the Apocalypto.
Speaker 1:You might as well save it, he might fight again. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's true, I should save it. Huh, let's just wait.
Speaker 3:Let's just try and stay on track here, because again I'm trying to make the time flow.
Speaker 1:Y'all can talk afterwards, I know, but I feel bad, man, they're going to be like oh, you left the black guy out. You know how the?
Speaker 3:world is man we're on a good roll though we could have done that, dude, yeah, yeah, yeah, now we can't write that, but, dude, this fight too and it's kind of solidified it for me. Again, I knew Usyk was pound for pound, he was in everybody that knows boxing's pound for pound talks. But, like I said, how you win really matters. And the second time he fought everybody, with the exception, I guess, of like, maybe Joshua. That second time Joshua fight, he still won every round. But Joshua fought different usix getting better and better and better and better and better. He's. He's 38 now. He. He's looking fantastic dude. And and again he's in the heavyweight division, which is, I guess, a weaker division, you could say. But who really? Who's really next to challenge him? Bro, he's 38. Parker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's 38.
Speaker 3:I guess, but Parker's not beating him.
Speaker 2:No, nobody's beating him, but I guess you know what would be sick If it were to happen. Like, let's say, he fights Parker next and I can see Turkey doing this. I'd love to see him and Opitayah fight if jai, if jai beats uh zerto or whomever he said he was going to go back down to, to to one.
Speaker 3:Um what?
Speaker 2:is that to cruiserweight to be a four-time?
Speaker 3:undisputed. Yeah, that's what he said, that, which would be crazy. But there's another name, I guess, and and he I mean it was versus zhang a totally different type of fighter and he attacked that body really good and he is, yeah, a jit cabal would be. Would be one guy that I would. That would entice me. I would like to see that I do it some of the best body work in the game.
Speaker 3:Yeah at least in the heavyweight division. So I think I'm okay with that, like that would, and then see what usic does with him. And and again, the only fight, like you said he's been really hit and in kind of not troubled but really sparked was was the fury fight. He, like you said he's been really hit and in kind of not troubled but really sparked was the Fury fight.
Speaker 1:He don't got shit to prove. To be honest, there's not really nobody on his level. He really don't got shit to prove. He's the only three-time.
Speaker 2:Undisputed Champion ever.
Speaker 3:Ever. But like I didn't even. What was it the WBO? Was that the belt they stripped him for?
Speaker 2:IBF the belt. They stripped him for ibf. That was so weird ibf. You know, it's always the ibf fuck them for that.
Speaker 3:Like that was so stupid. Like of course you want the fury rematch.
Speaker 2:And like, no, we're gonna he had no choice, though he was contractually obligated to give him a rematch like so it's like either vacate your ibf or get stripped of it, or get sued but?
Speaker 3:but canelo could just hold all the belts and do whatever right yeah, he could.
Speaker 1:He could just fucking hold them off.
Speaker 2:Well, he got stripped of the IBF too for not fighting school. And then we saw that fight yeah. Everybody's mad at him for fighting him.
Speaker 1:One thing, one thing. Welcome to the world boxing entertainment.
Speaker 3:This is literally entertainment at its finest.
Speaker 2:They are doing all types of shit. Did you see who Usyk stared down after the fight? What's that? Did you see who Usyk stared down after the fight in the ring?
Speaker 3:Jake Paul, but that was my. You know what's sad about that. I was just talking to my friend who's more of a UFC guy. He's like is this Jake Paul? Usyk? Shit, true. And I'm like dude, they're not going to fight off. Oh, it's so annoying, um, but I mean I you know good for usic getting clickbait, but I kind of like that. He, he stared down jake paul and let me explain why.
Speaker 3:Right now, this era of boxing that we're in is is an all-time great era. Like think about that real quick, and I'm gonna go off on a tangent. We have we have arguably five pound for pound-pound, great fighters right, all legendary fighters right now at this moment, and they're all in different weight classes and three-fourths I'd say no, I'd say 50% of them nobody even knows their name. And Usyk's kind of one of those guys. He's finally now just hitting into that other market where people are like who's this Usyk guy? Who the hell is this? And it took him three times to get undisputed.
Speaker 3:And it's like just saddens me because this era is going to go down in history of like the ali era, the joe lewis era, those great eras of boxing, the golden age of boxing, the late 80s, early 90s, right, and then it took a lull for a little bit with klitschko the klitschchko era that's his era, where it really died down. Right now, the totality of all the boxing, it's fucking great and it's just unfortunate it's not being pushed in the American markets like it fucking should. But now I'm going to get into it more. When we talk about Bam, I guess we could just go right into Bam now and speak on it, because he's in that same category, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:Babyface assassin.
Speaker 3:Think category, in my opinion, babyface assassin. Like, yeah, think of how good bam is right and we'll dissect the fight and recap it in a second, but think of how fucking nasty bam is, everything he does. That dude is unknown in america from from regular sports fans, right like right like unknown. The boxing heads know him, even. Even ufc fans like hardcore ufc fans have no idea he need a DUI, like they don't know who he is. You know what I'm saying and it kind of like hurts my heart. Like boxing is so good right now and like I still got to sell people to come over and watch it. Like I'm like no, no, no, please, please, come over and watch it, I'll buy more food. It's like fuck he always takes Charcuterie board Side note.
Speaker 3:Willie had his first white people charcuterie board here which is a meat and cheese platter he's like what the hell is this?
Speaker 1:What the?
Speaker 3:fuck is this shit?
Speaker 2:Literally just salami cheese, avocado shit.
Speaker 3:He had one bite and he was like oh man, oh no, you guys are crazy. He was like oh man, you guys are crazy. Three minutes later, this shit's alright, you can fucking eat it.
Speaker 2:These lesbians I live with eat those nasty ass cheeses like goat cheese. Lesbian I live with a lesbian couple.
Speaker 1:She's great, they're great. People Tell them they're great people, we're not talking shit.
Speaker 3:You do it Sly Tendency says I thought Bam had a better performance than Usyk, considering how underrated Puma was. That wasn't Puma Cafu. Yeah, yeah, we're going to talk about that. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think Dubois is a little overrated, though still, yeah, he is overrated man, but I I think he got a punch his chance against anybody heavyweight athletic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, heavyweight athletic. Great, great uh power. But I want to see him and parker I'm just pick something real quick too.
Speaker 2:Go, yeah, whatever. I appreciate his comment, but what I'm saying? I don't want to pit them again like oh, one had a better performance than the other. We need to appreciate both those guys because if you look at yesterday, yesterday was a day full of bullshit in boxing from top to bottom. Those two were the two greatest fighters who fought yesterday, not of all time, but at the moment. Like deserve the respect. That's all I'm going to say. We should appreciate them.
Speaker 3:It was such a boxing high dude, it was such a boxing high and then it really got low really fast, thanks to the good old. Thanks to the good old PBFC. There's a reason they're on their way out.
Speaker 1:This is cool. What slot got a king on his shit. That's fine. I don't know what that means. I thought that was. Uncle Sam. No, I'm talking about the king plus number one.
Speaker 3:It was great to see Again that goes back to what I said with the era. We are in such a great era of boxing. We're getting terence crawford versus canelo and if, if crawford somehow beats canelo, he will be he is. He is elevated at the number one spot. We have bivel in the mix. Who who's? I don't know what he's doing right now, but he had the biturbie of twice. It's just such a fucking great era of boxing your punch, so do you um with?
Speaker 1:uh, bivel fight, Bivel fight. You think Bivel won. Both of them fights clearly.
Speaker 2:I do yeah.
Speaker 1:Fuck.
Speaker 2:For sure.
Speaker 1:Fuck you too.
Speaker 2:I could be very biased, though, because I'm a huge Bivel fan.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, dude.
Speaker 2:Alright, that's what it sounds like.
Speaker 3:I don't know, but it was like the first one was closer than the second one.
Speaker 2:I thought the first one was more obvious. For bibble to be honest.
Speaker 3:See, I, I, but I'm. I know you don't agree with this, but I'm on that belief. Like you got to take the belts. You know what I mean? They were both champions. Yeah, you're right. You're right. What the fuck am I saying? It's hard, it's hard. What better be of when he doesn't get a knockdown or a knockout like it's?
Speaker 1:yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like it's hard, he was on him though I re-watched that one and he was he was landing Live. It didn't look like it, but when you re-watch like oh shit, I think he won that one. He didn't even think he won that shit. Yeah, true, I mean, I don't know. It was close, though it was great. That's what happens when the best fight the best. He that mean you got lucky. I guess the first one was a draw right the casino majority majority decision. Yeah, majority. Oh uh, the art I'm bugging.
Speaker 1:I felt like I'm I don't remember that but yeah, see, that's that just goes again.
Speaker 3:This, this, this, like in 10 years, when boxing dies down again because every 10 years it does we're gonna be like look back on this like yo remember we had that podcast and like we were talking about all that stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what you're crazy. I was just thinking about that shit because I'll be watching streamers they're gonna get older right and then like whether they're gonna be like yo. They're gonna have the same friends, streamer friends and they just go, girl, we're gonna, I'm gonna be, I'm dying right here, like right at this bar.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna die and you're gonna see me like fucking live, but great day of boxing. Um, nothing really on that undercard. What was the fight before it? It was, um, okay, we didn't even talk about the fight though, yeah, oh shit you're right, my bad, let's get into it because I, it was.
Speaker 1:Uh, I had to re-watch it yeah, we just like take like tunnels yeah uh, you had to re-watch the Usyk fight right.
Speaker 2:No, the Bam fight.
Speaker 3:I wasn't there yet. I was still on the Usyk oh.
Speaker 1:I thought that's where we went. You said we was going to Bam.
Speaker 3:We might as well go there, we didn't really get into it.
Speaker 2:That's why I was like what Did you want to talk about? The undercard of Usyk. No, not really why I don't like Okoli. I think he fucking sucks.
Speaker 3:I just wanted to point out that he punched himself in the face again. That happened twice yesterday. Two fighters did that. Who else did it? Figueroa. Figueroa uppercut himself in like round three, and Tyson Fury went viral for that once too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, way back in the't.
Speaker 1:That's all I wanted to speak on the undercard. Wait what I got to see that clip.
Speaker 3:He did tear his bicep in that fight too.
Speaker 2:I don't care he sucks bro. Yeah, he's not that.
Speaker 3:And I was going to say our boy over here who we're probably going to get on the show again. He actually hit me up. He wants us to go to his crib and watch a fight live with him and he's in Boots Camp. He's also a cruiserweight, Giovanni Scuderi. He's ranked like 13 or 12 in one of the rankings. He beats the shit out of both those guys and I was going to post something and say that Cruiserweight is another wide-open division. Right now. He's at heavyweight now.
Speaker 2:Who Okoli?
Speaker 3:That was a heavyweight fight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, he weighs like 254 for that fight.
Speaker 3:Well, whatever, scuderi still beats the shit out of him. Yeah, he's not good Like. Yeah, it's just, I didn't know that. My bad, I had no idea that's the. Oh, yeah, you're right, that Kevin Leary guy or whatever the hell his name is Lorena heavyweight. Yeah, that dude almost knocked out Dubois back in the day. Yep, yep, that's where I know him from. Shit, you're right, I'm all fucked up. But anyway, giovanni still beats the shit out of both of them Easily.
Speaker 2:Easily. I looked that guy up too after you brought him up. He's athletic as hell.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, he worked fucking hard work or two, and he's in Ennis' camp, which you know it's hard work. And I like how he was in New York City and then he went over to Philly. He was like I like New York City. He was like it was just too much, like the focus wasn't totally on me. We interviewed him. Actually it was a good interview, great dude, great dude, and we might do that.
Speaker 3:We might shoot some it feels so weird saying that about another guy but shoot some content with him. Yeah, but not that kind of content that's sounding crazy. Yeah, um, sly says 262. I don't know how bacoli ever made 200. He's a hot dog. He's a he's hot dog water professional hugger. He's terrible, terrible. He did tear his bicep, though, in that fight, which was crazy. But you're right, we don't need to fucking talk about, uh, anything else on that undercard other than the fact that wembley, fucking wembley, could put a fight together. I mean, it didn't end the UK. We do got to give them some respect real quick. The UK fan base. Did you see that stadium bro?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was pointed out to my roommate. I was like cause she was asking me she's like is boxing bigger than in other countries? I was like in the UK. Yeah, I was telling her that during the Serrano fight. Then when she walked in, I was like look, this is how the shit looks in England.
Speaker 1:She wanted to see that Serrano fight, right. Well, she was at the second one live.
Speaker 2:She was in Texas for dive school, so she got tickets to Tyson Paul. Also, she watched Serrano Taylor too. That's amazing, dude, yeah you did.
Speaker 1:you said that yeah you did.
Speaker 3:That's awesome, but I didn't know she was a lesbian back then.
Speaker 1:What does that got to do with anything? Because you like seeing girls.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, true, they got the same name too. Isn't that weird? They're both named Chloe.
Speaker 1:Oh, chloe, oh.
Speaker 2:One of them is Chinese, so I call her Crowey oh both with a girl named Chloe.
Speaker 3:Oh wow, shit I'm fucking up Spicy Trini says shout out to y'all Salute Trini Going forward, let's just get right into it. I guess the other superior I don't even know what's a big word. I've been bad with big words today Elite.
Speaker 1:Elite what's a big word. I've been bad with big words today.
Speaker 3:Elite, that's a small word, I don't know. What's more than elite? What's bigger than elite? I don't know bro Extravagant. On another card on this extravagant boxing day, we had Jesse Bam Rodriguez versus Fumilia Cafu in a unification bout for the WBC and WBO belts. Listen, cafu was a big underdog going in. It was the biggest odds disparity in all the main fights, to include the Pacquiao fight. So he kind of expected that, but again it came late, though that was late.
Speaker 3:And how you win matters A little bit too late for you right and how you win matters for you right. I thought, yeah, way too late for me. I this fucked up my parlay. Um, I had, I had freaking, uh bam seven seven through nine.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I had bam seven through nine and usik ko tko for plus 500 and something or plus 500. Of course he hurts him in the ninth. I'm going crazy and he stops him in the 10 fucking. But you know, listen, kafu. Kafu came in there big and I guess that's what you. He looked massive in there with uh bam he did. That was the first thing I noticed I brought that up.
Speaker 2:I was like, is he big for the weight class or is bam just really small? Because bam is really fucking small.
Speaker 3:But the dude looked big.
Speaker 2:He looked like a 118 pounder.
Speaker 3:Again like Dubois, why come in big and fight so small? He curled himself up in a ball in the corner.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I was going to ask y'all what have y'all thought about his strategy when he was just going to the corner just chilling there for mad long.
Speaker 2:So I was watching it at my friend's house and we had the Pc fights on the tv and I brought my laptop and we put that card on there and that fight we've had the sound on the tv. My shit was on mute, but that fight was going on the same exact time as su fundora and I'm trying to watch both. But like the su fundora fight got, it got spicy quick yeah, and I would look over and every time I'd look over it'd be on the corner like he'd be on the ropes and shit, and I just I brought it up to my friend and he was like dude, I was just about to say the same thing.
Speaker 2:I was like I wonder if he's doing this to take bam's like pivots and angles away that he uses in the center of the ring so, yeah, that's what it is, yeah it had to have been that, to just keep him right in front of him, but like if you think bam needs those pivots and angles to win, like no Credit you for trying something different than anyone else has tried, but if you let him tee off on you, it's over.
Speaker 1:Now. That's a great point, because I was thinking why was he doing that? He was trying to take the angles away. He kind of was in the beginning, but he just started.
Speaker 3:It worked for two rounds and then Bam was like oh, okay. Yeah, Bam is so fucking good His hook, and he should have threw the hook more Cafu, Because, as we always say, a lefty's kryptonite is the fucking left hook. And he had a good one and it landed a few times. Bam does get clipped, but he's a dog.
Speaker 1:I think we've seen enough hooks that night because, fucking Cruz, just throw hooks. That's all he does. I don't even want to get into that.
Speaker 3:I'm sick of a hook. Jesse Bam Rodriguez is really, really quickly becoming one of my top favorite fighters, definitely favorite to watch, but just all around and, just like Usyk, he's just quiet.
Speaker 1:He doesn't talk shit, he's just fucking strictly business, Puma said I wish I had footwork like him.
Speaker 2:Yeah let's be. It's absurd, it's insane.
Speaker 1:I got footwork on him, but I'm not as quick. He's fucking fast.
Speaker 3:His footwork is like and he wasn't a dancer Like Lomachenko was the closest thing I could compare him to the footwork, the in and out, movements, and he, like, trained for that. This dude was just born. If he wanted to, if he could sing.
Speaker 1:He probably could do bachata, he would be.
Speaker 3:Michael Jackson. He'd be the next Michael Jackson, because his footwork is fucking insane.
Speaker 1:We've never seen him dance. He probably could dance. Yeah, he probably could. He probably be like doing no, they got all types of things. What is he? What is he? He Mexican?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He Mexican. He might have some shit in his bag.
Speaker 2:He does a lot of stuff Laura used to do. He would step over with his lead foot and step back to get a move, but he's just more aggressive.
Speaker 1:But you expect that from Laura, because he's Cuban right yeah? You expect him to movement. That's just.
Speaker 3:When Jesse does it, they play music in the gym, just like boxing.
Speaker 1:Dude that, that music and what they music when you boxing at the same time, what?
Speaker 3:but when jesse does it like, when he does it, it's with aggression, like you said, and he's the pressure. He's doing it while applying pressure. I can't even explain it.
Speaker 1:I don't even he don't forget the jab. He throw every punch in the fucking book one, two, three, four, five, six, seven eight.
Speaker 2:He did all the shit. He averages the most landed jams around in boxing. That's wild.
Speaker 1:He throws every punch, though.
Speaker 2:You might. You know, one fighter might not throw an uppercut.
Speaker 1:One fighter might not throw a hook or a jab. He throws every punch there is.
Speaker 3:It's crazy to see, it's crazy to watch and again, this is going to go back to what I was talking about. Yeah, young as shit. This goes back to what I was talking about, though. Dallas. We Googled it. Dallas Stadium could fit 90,000 people. Right, there was not 90,000 people in Dallas. Cowboy Stadium Wembley, on the other hand You're a liar Usyk's, not even from England. Us Wembley, on the other hand, also fits 90,000 people. That shit looked packed. I'm saying this as a props to the UK fan base and full of jealousy. Like Jesse Bam Rodriguez is so good he should be selling out his home state, or you know, home state stadium. Yeah, and it's like so sad to see because nobody really again knew that that fight was even. Everybody was talking about pack.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all three of us got to go to to one of those fights in uh in uk.
Speaker 3:It's on my bucket list, but I'm gonna get beat up um, probably and probably get robbed before you get nah, I don't get robbed, I'll just get beat up I'm ready for it get there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they do a lot of stabbing over there, but nah, whatever, I don't care. Yeah, I definitely want to. But you know it's England, I gotta plan it. I can't just go to England tomorrow. You know what I mean. Lester underscore, nyc said UK ticket starts at 59 bucks. Wow See, that's crazy. That's a blessing. And look, yeah, fucking, a beer here is $59.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro.
Speaker 3:That's wild, but again it's just. I don't like that. Jesse Rodriguez should be on cereal boxes. He's an American fighter. He's arguably one of the greatest of all time. You can make an argument for it right now, at 25, and he's not done yet. We just talked about all the accolades about him. He's not a five-tool talent, he's a 10-tool talent. He's got shit. He gets knocked down. He's human and he gets up, stays composed and finishes. He's a fucking problem. I guess he has a fight planned already because of turk. I mean, I expect him to win that too. And this is where it fucks up again. It's in saudi. So nobody outside of the boxing heads are going to know that this fight is going on, that this great guy we spoke about just now, sugar ray robinson type fucking guy, is going to saudi now to fight. So he's going to get no backing in America again.
Speaker 2:He is on that big November card, so he is going to be on a card with Haney and Benavidez.
Speaker 3:There's going to be more people watching him though. But you'll still get a lot of exposure, but not like the exposure we will. We'll be watching him, people we talk to and the people we bring in us as we I mean all the boxing fanatics, but they have a hades fight. I want like like espn needs to fucking. You know what I mean. Like first take, they need to put him on everything. Put it, bring oprah back, put him on fucking oprah oh we don't.
Speaker 2:I want to see bam make shit on fucking with martha stewart bro, they got pat mcafee involved with that, that Madison or not Madison, the Times Square shit, and then stop Get him on his show bro, and that's what the UFC did.
Speaker 3:That's what the UFC was great about. People are always like, oh, the UFC fell off. The fights are so boring. No, they're the same. They're just not marketing it the same way. There's no polarizing.
Speaker 1:Conor McGregor, figure, figure I wish I was a streamer, bro. I would have bam in the morning. Well yeah yeah, we are streamers, we just I'm just saying no, yeah, well, yeah, you're right and again um uh slide, says jesse, popular as hell in phoenix.
Speaker 3:There's a waiting line to get a t-shirt, damn I mean, but that's just phoenix, like yeah it's a mid-market, and he needs to be popular as hell. In new york we got a lot of mexicanos out here, and that's another thing too. He's like I'm fighting mexican fan base is massive. It's like the third or second figure.
Speaker 1:So it's just very odd when fighters I think they need to like go to every major city at first before, like they start going to their hometowns and shit like if your hometown is not like a big town it's a good point yeah, just go to like a major city and fight first. That's not like he's always fighting him. He probably always fighting in vegas or california, fighting in riad and fighting new york, fighting what else it is?
Speaker 3:like we're gonna tune in right at 4 pm or 5 pm, november 22nd. Nobody else is. I'm sorry, nobody else is you?
Speaker 2:don't think Haney can bring that mainstream appeal Because he has a mainstream following like a pop culture following.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, yep.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I guess, but the only one really that's bringing mainstream appeal. The best I could is Tank Tank and Ryan. Yeah, Ryan Garcia is another one, and then you could even argue Shakur has a lot of mainstream appeal, I noticed. I feel like Shakur don't not yet.
Speaker 2:In New York dude.
Speaker 3:They put so at the local bars here not all of them, but like the Buffalo Wild Wings, you can catch a Shakur fight. That's the way I look at it.
Speaker 1:That surprises me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I swear Me too, and I only know because after work one night we went to Buffalo. Wild Wings was two packs, so we went to Cannes, which is like a shitty Hooters. Down the street. Yeah, and fucking they had.
Speaker 1:I'd be there too.
Speaker 2:They had it on. They had it on, bro. I would never eat at no fucking place called cans bro, where the whole thing is for sluts to work. This sounds awful. Yeah, it was. It was definitely uh sounds like a tilted kill.
Speaker 3:Being involved in boxing, though I'm used to be in the token white guys. So, niggas be there.
Speaker 1:I've been in well the drug dealers, everybody.
Speaker 2:I'd be eating like shaking, just scared as fuck I went with.
Speaker 3:no, I was good, I had a bodyguard. I went with my boy George.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Albert. Yeah, he's like a used to fight.
Speaker 1:You see the black people in him. Yeah, we were the only white guy. Definitely be hood.
Speaker 2:I ate at the hooters in hackensack, new jersey, to watch one of the calves warriors final games the the first one they had, durant. I swear to god I saw a fucking mouse running on the floor bro oh man you still ate there that means the wings are good. I was already there, I'd already eaten, I was just watching the game drinking beer. But yeah, man.
Speaker 3:Who was on the undercard of that, the BAM fight? What was?
Speaker 2:that one Pacheco-McCombie, was the co main.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so we could talk about our guys Pacheco and McCombie and then we can get into the other stuff. Try to keep it rolling. You're right, the Pacheco-McCombie fight, it was not what we thought it was going to be, um, but I I will say this I mccombie was a big underdog in that fight and his stock rose like crazy because did not yeah, pacheco's did not. But at the same time I don't want to kill the guy for fighting a dangerous opponent the way he did.
Speaker 2:He fought, timid versus a dangerous opponent yeah, but then you talked about this guy like he's ready for the fucking in billies and lester martinez is of the world. True, last night proved he ain't ready yet.
Speaker 3:No, that that is true, and I I do. I wanted to see him get tested a little more. So that's kind of a slight to mccombie like I, and that's, that's my guy, but I wanted to see him. I wanted to see mccombby hit him with some shit. Well, what can?
Speaker 1:you, what do you expect him to do? It was like hard because it's like he's so lengthy and he just he's, he's, he's half set back was nice like he. He really got like talent. But what he's going to do when the next level come, when somebody can actually touch him? He never hit that next gear either.
Speaker 2:Because, like, yeah, like you know, we all love mccombby, I post about him all week. Yeah, but he's there to be hit. Yeah, and he's there to be hit. And in his last fight against plant he showed on the inside he's got serious deficiencies and you didn't even try to take the fight there.
Speaker 3:No, and and he was throwing like looping shots and I mean that that, but but the reason for that to me was pacheco's jab was dynamite all night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think they both respected what each other was throwing and mccombie.
Speaker 3:Mccombie even said that in the corner, like he's fighting, just like me, like he's, I'm throwing, he's throwing, I'm countering, he's got it, and so they're both fighting. They fought way too timid both of them, and the headbutt. I had a lot to do with that as well. I asked Puma.
Speaker 1:I'm like how the hell did this happen in a matter of seconds? Because I looked, turned away. I was watching this shit while I was bowling. I'm watching this shit and I'm like yo, what happened to this? He started bleeding early Already, trying to fuck my boy up. I'm like, yeah, he's not going to win. I thought they was going to end up stopping it because of that shit.
Speaker 2:He was the only one to rock the other though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Pacheco landed, but he never landed anything that was like oh man, this fight McCombie, though I think he's entering that realm now with how good he did and the fact that he was able to do as well as he did against Plant. He's entering the realm of super high risk, low reward, which is kind of like a spot you don't want to be in in boxing, especially at that weight.
Speaker 1:I think that was a bad style from McCombie though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was a bad style.
Speaker 1:Well, not really a style. It's his structure of his body, because his length was bothering him. What was this?
Speaker 3:McCombie. To me he's just like this brute American farmer. Yeah, you got to like him, but you texted me. Actually, what was that song he came out to? I don't know, I thought for sure it was going to be like some 80s rock or some country or like kid rock. You had to yeah, so did you yeah.
Speaker 2:I saw the entrance on IG. It was yeah, I saw the entrance on on ig is like some weird. I don't know techno music, so I don't know what the fuck that was.
Speaker 3:I was like too. He's like what was. I was like I don't know, it's like some weird techno.
Speaker 2:I never heard that I was asking because I was curious. I had that because my shit was on mute I thought you didn't.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it wasn't. I thought like for sure, some like real country shit. But because his bit was fire. His fight fit was fucking dope that was awesome you and you're the one that linked him with adams correct, or yeah, yeah, so you last fight yeah, with the adams boxing shoes which I need a new pair, by the way. Uh, we're gonna have to talk. We're gonna have to talk after the show. We got new stuff you've been running through shoes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm fat dude, I'm 230 pounds. Fucking muffin sludge um, I actually stole that from another podcast. These two dudes called each other muffin sludge. I was like, damn, that's me, bro, I got muffin sludge. That's funny as shit. Yeah, you know, that was a little underwhelming, but hey, whatever, I'm interested to see what happens. Also real quick, though, for Pacheco, the backhand uppercut was right there all night and he didn't throw it, and I don't know why. And when he did, every time he did like in the back half the last few rounds it would land clean, and I noticed that and I'm like, why isn't he throwing this uppercut? But whatever, and that was actually too. I want to give Sergio more props because I'm going to cook him in a little bit. That was the only time I actually heard sergio like keeping it real versus latino fighter.
Speaker 3:Because he was, he was giving, he was basically saying what was right, what was correct, so props him for that, but then he he ruined it for me and I'm still riding with mccombby, though moving forward oh, yeah, yeah yeah, for sure, he's always got a chance. Like he's never counted out, ever. And.
Speaker 2:I'm not hating on him. He's a super nice guy, extremely nice guy.
Speaker 3:One of our better interviews was with. Actually, all our interviews with fighters have been pretty good. He was an awesome interview with how cool he was, but then again we're pretty cool too, so we bring that out of people.
Speaker 2:I ain't watched none of that ammo fight. I watched bits and pieces, but so he looked like shit I didn't even try watching.
Speaker 3:I don't even know who he was fighting. I actually was talking to jahai tucker during this fight because I could have sworn. I read somewhere that ammo was talking shit, but I was wrong. It was like somebody on the internet talking shit, saying I want to see, I want to see tucker versus ammo williams and tucker. Tucker was like shit. If the money's right I'll fight his ass. Yeah so uh, but ammo was low, blowing twice like it was so bad.
Speaker 1:Apparently they used that's what y'all was talking about in the chat yeah I'm like what is going on on? I haven't watched that fight at all. He low-blowed twice.
Speaker 3:He's powerful, but not enough. But this is where who was the guy he was fighting?
Speaker 2:again I don't know, just some random Mexican dude from Texas. But that dude was winning. He was rocking him. Every time I'd look over he was hitting ammo.
Speaker 3:Yeah, dude, he was. I don't know if he's winning, but he was doing very, very good. And then this is where Sergio Moura pissed me off and like I can't win with this guy. It's the ninth round Vasquez is having. His name is Ivan Vasquez. I had to look it up. He's having a very bad round, right, but he's not out. And it's the ninth round and the fight is almost over and round and and the the fight is almost over and he has a chance to at least draw. Like you know what I mean like he's a big underdog in this fight. He was put there to get beat. I think they used to spar a lot, apparently they did.
Speaker 2:That's what they said in the face off, okay okay.
Speaker 3:So yeah, they used to spar a lot, but vasquez was timing ammo every opportunity he could get, and then he just quits he quit.
Speaker 2:So that's how it ended. It was he stopped?
Speaker 3:yeah, he stopped and this is where I want to cook. Sergio mora, you just said he's a. He's a mexican from texas, right, when mexicans? The one thing we know about mexican fighters is they are not quitting right. They're the only one I can think of. That quit was julio cesar chavez jr and Ortiz yeah.
Speaker 3:But they were drug-induced Mexicans, so it's totally different, like you do not quit, and he did. And Sergio's like yeah, you know, he gave him like benefit of the doubt. I'm like, bro, he was winning the fight in my opinion. Like he was like what the fuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not big on ammo bro.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not sold on him either. Hamza did his thing against him so I don't want to cook him for that. But this fight he really did not look great. No real head movement. Feet are flat Like the other lefties. He's a lefty right. I think he's a lefty Like the other lefties we saw. It wasn't really enticing.
Speaker 2:Man bro, when he starts getting hit he does this shit like squared up, like shitty philly show fucking go to high guard, bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's worse than ryan, shit no no, ain't nothing works that was crazy.
Speaker 3:fly says I can't find the song. The ammo fight was a war. He fought his friend, because the dude in the eliminator pulled out at the last second Ortiz, possibly Chavez Sr, against De La Hoya. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:That's another thing, while that fight was going on, joette versus Figueroa was going on, which was an exponentially more entertaining fight.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, that fight. And then it was hard for me to watch both again, which was cool though I like. So in the spar in actually, I set up uh, I have three, four technically tvs and they all streams. For this reason, like I like to put, you know, I'm not, I'm not like a giant ufc fan, but I like to bet and put, put money on fights and stuff so I could watch them all. But I went outside and I set up two tvs, one on top of each other, and I was like it was hard because the cards were so good. But that's, that's good for boxing, that's not a bad thing. Yeah, good for boxing. Um, yeah, that that was a robbery though, right, you think, joette oh yeah, you just want to switch to that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure for sure going in, because going into the 11 round they brought up the unofficial scorecard and I think it was Larry Hazard was doing the unofficial scorecard on PBC last night. He had it 98-92 for Joette going into the final two rounds.
Speaker 3:I think the only thing I thought Joette won too, and it was an action-packed fight. That would have been a co-main. If that was by itself, I would have paid way more attention, but there was a lot of boxing on, so I wasn't. But the only thing I'll say is Joette's face, and again, I never, ever, ever, ever make this argument and I stand by it when people are like oh, did you see his face? Though, because I'm a TO guy, his face always looks fucked up, even when he's not fucked up. But Joette's face after that fight looked like he got beat with a bat.
Speaker 2:He got beat in the lip.
Speaker 3:His face looked like he got beat with a bat. So they may have seen something we didn't. I don't know. And another thing is Figueroa only landed three jabs. I said this to you, the other night.
Speaker 2:Well, Joette only landed seven.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but three, seven's horrible, but three, how do?
Speaker 1:you win with three. He was a big favorite, wasn't he too?
Speaker 2:Yeah, figueroa, yeah, and Joette only loses to the top guys bro.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 3:Girth Brooks says shout out, spar, and I want to see Bam versus Usyk. And the winner gets Jake Paul. Okay, girth Brooks, you're a little. They got to go through Sean O'Malley first, yeah, and then they got to what's that guy's name? Butterbean. And then maybe the Undertaker. The Undertaker shows up at WrestleManias. He could box too. Hey, thanks for the support. Um, five yo, if we get to 10, if we get to 10 like viewers right, live viewers I'm gonna give something away. That's another thing. I was a surprise. We're at the halfway point here. Willie might have to leave soon. He's gotta sleep. Um, I'm gonna start giving shit away every episode. Cool, no, no dice. Everyone's half asleep. I'm down with it. This guy had something in my eye, bro, like burns. He's rubbing his eyes. Willie's looking at you Porn. Hey guys, I'm going to give shit away. I'm fucking about to be homeless because of this stupid podcast hey, sweetie, are you jerking off alone again?
Speaker 1:It is, don't worry about it, you might go homeless off the loan. Again, it is Sly, says yo, where's your cash at? Don't worry about it. You might go homeless Not yet.
Speaker 3:Sly, though Sly Tendencies if you're listening. It's a little delayed on the live or whatever. Did you get your shirt? I sent him a shirt and a hat. If you could just shout us out, because people think I'm lying when I say I send free shit. I send free shit, but I send free shit all the time. We're up to six live viewers right now. If we get to ten live viewers, I'm going to give something away. What is it? Girth Cousin? Yeah, I know, it's probably fake accounts, Girth Cousin. Speaking of girth, though, let's talk about a girthy old man. He also fought.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? His calves, pacquiao?
Speaker 3:Yeah, his calves, actually You're skipping two fights who?
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll backtrack. I'll backtrack, or did you want to stop from the top and go down. Sorry, sorry.
Speaker 3:Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, Go, go, go, because I'm all over the place Figueroa, so I figured we were going to work up. No, no, we're going to work up to Pacquiao, so we'll hold that thought then. Okay, so who you got next? Was it Zu?
Speaker 2:No, the next fight was Pitbull, which we don't even use. What?
Speaker 1:about.
Speaker 2:Russell.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I did want to say something about Russell, but let's talk about Pitbull for two seconds. Okay, deal, deal, deal guys. Yeah, beat up another can and couldn't get a stoppage and also throws three, throws, three jabs per fight and and just has a really good chin and it's again. I I told you this in the group text.
Speaker 2:He's probably one of the most overrated boxers I think I've I've ever fucking watched until he knocked out roly, the dude was living off a loss to tank, a one-handed tank that yeah, and you know props to take like like props to take in that, but I actually have oh no, that's not.
Speaker 3:I have a tank autograph that I'm not giving away, but um, it wasn't it wasn't rolly. Um yeah, that was just disappointing. And dude, did you see it? Was it the geico caveman, orman, or whatever?
Speaker 2:You talking about that werewolf thing, dude, like yeah, what was that? I don't know. I fucking hate that guy. He's got all the fights so it pisses me off, is he yeah?
Speaker 3:Who is that?
Speaker 2:He's some WBC mascot dude, Is that it you?
Speaker 3:know somebody I'm not going to name him, but I posted this like a picture of it somebody, a local fighter out here, not pro, like amateur, good guy, good guy he. He wrote what is that? Maybe he just has like a condition. I was like, dude, it's a mask, you actually thought that was a real. Leave it alone. He's a fan of the show. Fans, fans are tight. I was dying, though, um that was funny.
Speaker 3:Is that the Jack Link's jerky dude? Oh, maybe that's it, I don't know. He looks like jerky bro. He looks like pleather.
Speaker 2:The first time I saw him was at the Benavidez plant fight yeah.
Speaker 1:He looks like a fucking caveman.
Speaker 2:Nah dude His face looks like.
Speaker 3:When I first realized what jerking off was, it looked like my computer chair, like worn and torn and just hairy. Why is it hairy? You know, you go through puberty, the butthole hairs start coming.
Speaker 1:Anyway, Wait, that didn't match up.
Speaker 3:You was little as hell yeah dude, I had some hair, you had no fucking hair.
Speaker 2:I did. Dude Pitbull can only be limited in chinny fighters, bro. He's not good dude Fucking Sicilian Pitbull can only be limited in chinny fighters. Bro. He's not good, bro, he's good, but he's not who they say he is.
Speaker 3:Even that, I don't think he can, because the secret is exposed, bro the thousand hooks All he's throwing and you still get hit by and you know it's coming.
Speaker 1:Why he was fighting a mexican right, another mexican right yeah yeah, but he the dude, don't fight like a mexican. He tried to fight like a slick fighter. Don't run a black light over that chair.
Speaker 3:I said don't run a black light over that chair black it'll break a black light, like his style wasn't.
Speaker 1:It wasn't good enough to win that fight, he was just catching hooks. He didn't have no slickness to him, he tried to fight like a slick.
Speaker 3:He never, ever does. He's talking about his opponent. Oh yeah, my bad.
Speaker 2:He took the fight on 24 hours notice though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a fact. And did that good A high favor? Yeah, props to him.
Speaker 3:He wasn't supposed to win. The coolest thing about Pitbull is his nickname and his entrance and he comes with the Pitbull mask, but he should have stayed in the lower weight.
Speaker 1:140 for him is just not it. He don't get no knockouts, no, nothing. He's not stopping nobody at 140, no more.
Speaker 2:That's another fighter that turned down a Shakur fight, by the way. Yeah, shakur.
Speaker 1:Shakur is way too big for him he would have kept him at a distance A little palm, he would have just stiffed, armed him. Stay away, little man. He's not even catching with no hooks. That was at 140, right.
Speaker 3:He was punching him in the head. I hope Tio beats his ass. That's what I hope Tio needs to fight.
Speaker 1:Fight who Pitbull?
Speaker 3:Pitbull yeah.
Speaker 1:But B-Bush, I don't like that fight. You know what? Because fucking Tio dumbass would do something stupid and probably get hit with something Like for no reason, nah, he'll knock guys out. Yeah, he'd probably just do something stupid like keep his hands down and just get hit with a hook for some odd reason, because TO's not big either.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but when all you have to do is dodge hooks, he's a loser.
Speaker 1:No, TO would win. I would bet on it, but he would just do some dumb shit because you know he like to do dumb shit.
Speaker 3:Let me get into these comments quick. Bboast says God bless hope, all is well. I got a question Thurman vs Boots who wins Boots?
Speaker 2:Yeah, boots, boots kills Thurman man Thurman could have had that fight two years ago, but he wanted $10 million.
Speaker 3:Get the fuck out of my face with thurman, yeah, and, and not only that. Thurman's so inactive, bro, and like, as he's getting older and it's like stop. He does talk some corny shit, which is fun, but oh that flex, flex, what up flex boast says that might be a dangerous fight for to. I disagree. I mean dangerous. He's always dangerous to everybody. He fights, he's just. He's just not that elite level he's. He's not a boxer, he's a brute to everybody. He fights, he's just. He's just not that elite level. He's. He's not a boxer, he's a brute. Chin down fun to watch throwing fucking haymakers short, tight haymakers, but I'd love to see him fight like Zapata. Yeah, yeah, that would be a great fight. Zapata Cause Zapata is another one in your face. Action, uh, not very defensive sound.
Speaker 2:That would be a great fight and it'd be a good sick, like mexican rivalry too hey, do you know the motherfucking vibes?
Speaker 3:I'm surprised I. I read what that was. It was like how do I damn this fucking? Reading the comments and talking is a little difficult. We are new to this. This is the second time we've had real interaction. Bear with me, but again we're at six viewers right now, total if we get get 10, instagram and this. I'm giving something away to all 10 of you.
Speaker 1:Tell your friends to pop in. Like the video. Like the live man. Get in the algorithm. I'm trying to share this shit.
Speaker 3:I want like 100. That would be great, but, in time, the fact that we're moving up and it's only the second live I'm sorry it's early in the lives, fuck it. It is more fun when people interact. What was the other fight, though? Punch?
Speaker 2:Sue Pandora was the co-main, but Willie was wanting to talk about Russell.
Speaker 1:Russell did his fucking thing, man, he was fucking fast bro.
Speaker 3:But I'm going to actually roll it down to. That dude sucked though.
Speaker 2:That dude was dog shit. That dude was dog shit.
Speaker 1:That dude was dog shit man. Yo, he's just coming back. When was the last time Russell Ebel fought man?
Speaker 2:2022 against Meg Sire.
Speaker 1:He looked at it so fast, he just took his time, wait, wait wait, ask that again.
Speaker 3:Ask when's the last time?
Speaker 1:When's the last time he fought?
Speaker 3:Say that again ask when's the last time?
Speaker 2:you fought say that again 2022 against magsayo. It's 2025, bro. It's crazy. It's 2025, bro. Was that a typo on the screen or was that shit at? Lightweight was he at?
Speaker 3:135. I don't even, I don't even. Uh, I'll look it up right now.
Speaker 2:Hold on, I don't even know because the screen said lightweight bout, and I'm like whoa, he don't look like a lightweight, he looks. He still looked like a 126 pounder. He looked good though, but the dude was getting off on him in the second half of that, yeah, and he was and, and.
Speaker 3:But to me russell is just the biggest waste of talent because, again, when was his last fight?
Speaker 2:don't read that most recent comment, by the way.
Speaker 1:Uh ron desantis hey, don't read it. He said don't read it, what he wants I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 3:Nobody read that comment. That dude's weird. Uh, did you share it?
Speaker 2:this sounds like one of punchline's friends look at the second half of that name. You know, know damn well that name.
Speaker 3:Anyway, god damn it. This is all live shit.
Speaker 3:It's the internet, people, people are weird, people are very weird on the internet and we are public Going forward To me, to me. Russell Russell could have been like legendary bro. Yeah, he took a loss versus Loma. Right, he's lost to Loma. Yeah, he has the family, the talent, everything is there. Boxing is his life. If you look up his box rec, it's like one year stint one fight. Two year stint one fight. One year stint one fight. Three year stint one fight stint one fight. One year stint one fight. Three years stint one fight.
Speaker 2:This one, it's fucking horrible and you know, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead go I was gonna say you know who? Else you can say that about thurman, jermall charlo, yeah, jermell charlo, fucking pbc bro, a hundred percent.
Speaker 1:You're the whole thing fucking tape, but russell to me, to me russell is more talented than all.
Speaker 3:Like natural talent. I think russell's more naturally talented than all them, just because of his family pedigree, like every one of them is, is nasty and like in the way he wins, like his precision, his timing. You can't teach that timing like you can't. He has like this phenomenal timing and that's why he was. He was tagging that guy and again he's coming off a three-year layoff like he should have been. The odds should have been closer and they weren't, and it's just sad like he's. He's like what I said earlier, like another great american fighter that should be up there. We should be fucking touting him, but no, he fights, not once every year now, once every three years. What the the fuck?
Speaker 1:Even before that. Did anybody see a press conference? He's on a fucking prelims. That's crazy. He was on a prelims. I'm like he's on a YouTube live. I didn't have to pay for nothing. I was just going YouTube and watching. That is crazy.
Speaker 3:Sly says can't wait to see Rusty's next fight in three years. Yeah, exactly, dude, it's fucking crazy I made a meme about it today.
Speaker 2:But if he was at 135, you know damn well, they're going to try to get him to fight Tank after Tank fights Roach, instead of getting Tank an even bigger fight, because he's going to make the same money regardless.
Speaker 3:It might have been. I saw you posted that it might have been at 135, because that dude he was fighting looked kind of big. Yeah, he looked small, bro. It might have been 140, bro, what? Oh, no, wrong, russell.
Speaker 1:God damn it 140. He got the belt at 140.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's too many fucking Russells.
Speaker 2:Yeah he showed power, though he looked smaller at 135 than tevin does bro and tevin's tiny I was looking at antoine russell, who was another great fucking talent.
Speaker 3:I can't wait to his next fight. Honestly, um oh no, it was, uh, oh yeah, 135 bro.
Speaker 2:That's crazy bro you know when you, when you hear that and you remember looking at him, it's like dude, he looked tiny for a lightweight but again his timing dude.
Speaker 3:It was crazy. He was landing at will. He would put himself in the corner on purpose time him land, get out. He's just wasted fucking american talent and and shame on the I. I'm starting to think now, since the Mayweather era is over, sort of We'll get into that next. Pbc might be bad for boxing.
Speaker 2:PBC's very bad for boxing. It sucks because they do put on good fights every now and then. They got a bunch of fighters I love, but the business model that they operate on and their almost unwillingness to fight people from other promotions is is infuriating do you think broner ruined it for them?
Speaker 3:like they're, like we don't want another broner. I don't think he helps bro like, maybe they're like uh, broner is.
Speaker 2:Uh, they got back at broner though, yeah, yeah, broner's on the well. They paid ivan red catch to pull out of that fight. And then they paid that dude in roy jones junior camp to break the jaw of the next opponent he fought he was supposed to fight when, back when broner was supposed to fight on blk prime against ivan red catch, they paid red catch three hundred thousand dollars to pull out of that fight. Was that true? That was confirmed To me. It was by somebody very close to the situation.
Speaker 3:Wow, dirty business. You know it's funny. You say that too. I was just going to say he's kind of like the new version of what's his face, the guy with the flag, old guy, old guy, old guy, promoter, great promoter. Oh King, yeah, don King.
Speaker 1:He's kind of like a what's a flag.
Speaker 3:He always brings flags. Oh, it says a little American flag and shit. He's like the new version of that's what it feels. It smells like that. Anyway, it's sniffing around and I don't know facts. I don sniffing around and I don't know facts I don't know anything, it just. It's like come on, dude sly says pbc started all this across the street bullshit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, uh, yeah they did um, but at least back then you could say that they were putting on bigger fights than top rank and arguably the zone they were close. But now it's like now you can't.
Speaker 1:You can't go band for band with turkey, bro you're gonna lose every time, a hundred percent, percent, band for band I'm actually speaking of turkey.
Speaker 3:I'm just gonna say something real quick and then I guess we'll. Is there any other undercard fights that I'm missing? Or should we get right into the pack packy crap? Uh well, we got the soup bite. Oh yeah, we do still have to talk about zoo. That's a big one. Um, before that, though, I was a little disappointed to see Jake Paul and Turkey shaking hands and talking and mingling, because I don't want this to become a monopoly. You know, like I like the fact that fighters have a choice of where to go and they can make a decision, because because then good fights can happen and we won't have every good fight in Saudi.
Speaker 2:Well, what I do like, though, is like all right, you fight your way up through Matchroom, through Top Rank, through Queensberry, whomever, and your best guys come to this, you know, like center, like meeting ground to fight each other in a Riyadh season event or a ring event. I like that concept because you still give a lot of power to these other promotions. Not everything has to be a ring card, not everything has to be Riyadh season. I don't want all the fights in Saudi, but I do like how they're making it like a almost like bowl games. I just hope the conferences bring that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I see that and I think that would be awesome. I just don't have 150 full trust in turk, and here's why we just got news today or yesterday or whatever, that the zone now with turk involved is gonna you don't have to pay for pay-per-views, right? And then literally a day later it's like oh no, that was wrong, you're gonna have to do an in-app purchase, like so you're gonna have to do an in-app purchase on top of your DAZN subscription with the ring or whatever so they're just changing the name of what it is yeah, they're just changing the name of like what a pay-per-view is, I don't know what the prices are, or whatever.
Speaker 3:And then if you look at, like the New York City event, oh yeah, we want to have a fight in Times Square, free to the. Willie and I were there firsthand. Thankfully, we just went to the weigh-in because that was about we saw the most action.
Speaker 1:We had never seen nothing out there.
Speaker 3:And I almost feel like him stepping into America because he's feeling this heat. The last card he did at the tennis stadium was amazing and I give him all the accolades for that. But now we're getting Bam and fucking Sari and it's like dude, yeah, that was my favorite yeah, and benavidez in saudi and I. I just something else a little off topic. Why is benavidez not fighting in like one of the main, like new york? He, I've never seen benavidez in new york.
Speaker 1:Nope, that's what I just said I just thought of that like you have to go in these main cities, bro. You have to go don these main cities. You have to go. Don't go fight everywhere else. You didn't fight in New York yet. Like how you didn't fight in New York. Like, um, like, uh, carissa, carissa Shields, how you didn't fight in New York yet and your mans is fucking Pat Poose bro, how you didn't fight in New York yet every time I like, uh, tag her or write something on instagram, repost her shit.
Speaker 1:She sent me a ticket to her show.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to detroit go to detroit I mean pay me to go to detroit not going to eight mile um props to clarissa shields and her team, though recently she's been the buzz oh yeah, she's been the fucking buzz bro like she's got. No, you can't tell me you don't trust Turkey, but then you trust where the fuck that money's coming from no, no, no, I don't, I don't trust any, any of it.
Speaker 3:I just feel like. I feel like Turkey is like right now. He's kind of like a used car salesman to us, like right right now, and I hope you can't trust any of these people?
Speaker 1:No, no, no, hell, no Hell no, but I like when they came together. You know what I'm saying, because I don't think it's going to be a monopoly, because, fucking Jake Paul, he want his own thing, he's his own business man. He's not throwing no MVP bullshit, so I like what he's doing over there.
Speaker 3:But that's what I mean. We need that competition because it will be. I just think it's going to be different competition.
Speaker 1:Now it's going to be Dana White, it's going to be Jake Paul, and then it's going to be it's not going to be top ranked no more PBC is going to be going. So this is going to be TopRank. No more PBC is going to be going. So this is going to be the new group and Eddie Hearn is going to be there all the time, and then Delahoy is going to be there.
Speaker 2:They already tapped him, yeah, but TopRank has still been pretty involved with the whole Turkey shit. Because they're giving Jared Anderson, they're giving Abdullah.
Speaker 1:They're not stupid 100%, they are because they were losing money with that espn deal, so they're like shit, so I am, so he's still gonna be it's almost like government.
Speaker 3:Like turkey is is the government government we got more options, man like there's more options, but, and again, I just want to see the best fight the best as a boxing fan. So for us it's cool. These saudi fights are cool. It's cool. Let the best fight the best. We're watching. I just want to go, like play basketball right at LA Fitness and then people be like yo, who you got? I want the buzz. I love like this podcast. I love because we're buzzing about boxing. You know what I mean. Like, yeah, and that's kind of what I'm wishing for and that's what it's missing. And again, this goes back to what I opened the whole show with is this era of boxing is so great. This is the time Like.
Speaker 2:This is the time where finally, adam, that hasn't been split yet. Like you think it's just this small thing, but when you cut it open it blows up like the like inside boxing. It's popping. It's just the mainstream world, whatever you want to call it, hasn't opened it up yet.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but we, we should right now, not we, the, the mainstream world should right now like yeah, right now is the time dude boxing has never been this good.
Speaker 1:That's probably why they going into the world boxing entertainment business right now pretty much that's probably why they just going into that entertainment type and we seeing all these uh kind of like iffy shit, even like the suspicious fucking hand wrap with fendora and shit. Oh, I mean, what's his name?
Speaker 3:speaking of that hand wrap, I'm in touch with uh, I'm talking to somebody, the guy that wrapped hamza's hands. I might have him on the show. I'm working on it. Yeah, he's a little skeptical.
Speaker 2:Andy.
Speaker 3:It wasn't Andy, it was.
Speaker 2:Andy came out and said he was the one that wrapped his hands.
Speaker 3:From what I heard, it wasn't Andy Huh. It was an Eastern European feller who's in New York, though.
Speaker 1:He's out of New York.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so maybe I'm getting duped and I'm getting lied to, but we will see. We shall see. That would be funny. No fake nudes. The fact that he's skeptical, I get it.
Speaker 1:Suspicion right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all right. We're an hour and seven in. We have six viewers still. We're trying to get to that. Ten people Send it to a friend. Yeah, maybe I'll just make a post and give something away for free.
Speaker 1:anyway, Pull up to the YouTube if you're on Instagram. Pull up on the YouTube if you're on Instagram.
Speaker 3:Nobody's on Instagram now. They all left. Shields fought in Atlantic City twice. Lester underscore NYC, did she yeah? Cool Enough about Shields, though, where? Where were you? Zoo, zoo, probably. Arguably action wise, all action wise. Back and forth. Action until it ended was the fight of the night, in my opinion, out of like like, back and forth yeah uh, zoo fundora 2.
Speaker 3:Um zoo suffered a big cut in the first fight. That kind of fucking made you wonder, I don't know. And he was still landing with that cut, which made you kind of wonder about Fundora. I just had a after zoo's performances after that fight I had a feeling Fundora was going to knock them out.
Speaker 3:I didn't call that shit and I didn't bet it. Like an idiot. I don't know why I didn't bet it. I should have Um it like an idiot. I don't know why I didn't bet it. I should have um and I didn't, and I was gonna put a lot of money on it. But I'm a fucking idiot. I I have like a problem where I just give out money, I don't hold it, something. I feel that something's wrong with me. Um, relatable, I'm gonna get that checked. Uh, hey, this was an action-packed fight. Fundora knocks Zu down in the first round.
Speaker 3:First round with a clean fucking left, straight left, knocks him down. Zu, I don't want to say he's overrated, maybe he's rated perfectly. They kind of backed him with the big Australian fan base. Money-wise I think right now zoo is rated perfectly. He's not that great. He has no head movement after he throws his footwork. Sucks, sucks. He. He's a dog and he'll. He's always in it to brawl and fight, so he'll get big fights because he's always fun to watch. And he was tagging fucking fundora up like up. I was shocked he was landing that much on Fundora. This fight after the knockdown.
Speaker 1:He just got no defense, he just fucking throws. He pulls straight back too, yeah. So it's like Totally straight back, you can land. It depends.
Speaker 3:When it came to the seventh round though.
Speaker 3:It's like he's fighting Slenderman. I get it. And again, fandora is difficult for anybody, but based off Zoo's last three, four performances, he kind of reminds me of what I want to see in Devin Haney. Devin Haney got cracked by Ryan Garcia. The last fight was kind of a wash. He didn't get cracked. I want to see Devin Haney get hit and how he responds. That's what I'm waiting for because I don't know, like Zoo can't come back and he's not coming back now. Every time he gets hit he's going to revert back. Although he did bounce back versus Fundor. It took him a few rounds though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it did For a little bit there. It looked like he was fighting off just pure hope.
Speaker 3:To be honest with you, did the corner stop it or did he stop? I wasn't sure. Did the doctor stop it?
Speaker 3:the ref did, because he couldn't answer questions, apparently and I'm I'm so okay with that, because fundora was, you know, when I I talked about this before when you hear the sounds on your tv of punches hitting, I was hearing that and I was outside of fundora just cracking and, yes, zoo was throwing wild shots, landing on this giant, but the the pressure of him punched, punching down from that height, and the amount of headshots that zoo was taking, I I don't know. I don't know what got over me, but maybe, maybe, uh, jesus was on my side and in my head because I was like dude, he's not gonna live if they don't stop this fight, like his brain is gonna swell bro, I felt like I jinxed it because you texted me.
Speaker 2:I was a little bit behind you text me. You're like fuck, I knew I should have been knocked out. And I was like god damn it. My friends were like what? I was like something's about to happen. They're like why? I was like my friend just texted me and then they saw it and then they thought you, they thought they thought you texted me later on and I was just pretending like you didn't. But at the end of that seventh, when like fundora was just going off on him and he was like standing on the ropes like this, I was like, bro, I wonder if his corner is gonna stop it like who?
Speaker 2:and I was like pursue, like maybe not now, but eventually, and then they stopped it and they all thought you texted me that and I was just saying it and I'm like no, no, I think I jinxed it, bro.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, but it was a really good stoppage, and I get like I hate bad stoppages, but I'm okay when it's a good stoppage. Zoo should, after that, fight, and, based off how we see him take a punch now, he should probably retire, like I think he should retire. He's a fucking warrior though, dude, that's a lot that was a lot.
Speaker 3:There's two guys out, he's in count of a year In boxing. They say when people pass away in boxing it's not from the knockouts. Knockout is almost like a defense mechanism in your body. You're knocked out. I'm good. The sustained punches and that's exactly what was happening and zoo was was on his heart. He wasn't going out, but that was really, really bad to see.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, I'm okay fighting the kd of boxing yeah, you know what, though, I'm gonna say?
Speaker 3:dude is lanky, bro like I know where you're going and I'm going to go there too. I know where Punch is going with this. Did I say it, he?
Speaker 2:was supposed to fight Virgil last year. He would have gotten fucking wrecked against Virgil.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:Virgil wrecks Fundora too. I was just going to say it. He destroys.
Speaker 3:Fundora and I think the way Fundora was getting hit like that Virgil is chopping that tree down. He's coming to that body. Yeah, fundora's body is, but I'm not taking anything away from Fundora, because the fact that he makes weight, that would be a fun fight, but the fact that he makes that weight is crazy alone and the fact that he's an actual nerd and bangs like that, I kind of fucking like it Bro, he got accepted into Harvard and bangs like that.
Speaker 3:I kind of fucking like it, like, oh, he got accepted into harvard like that's crazy.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know that that's fucking. I found that out today. His, his sister posted it. I knew he looked like it and his sister's.
Speaker 3:A beast too, his sister's nasty too, so gabby right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, props to that family sly says last night, bro, I did, I'm not gonna lie. Sly says I think tim's damaged goods after, uh, marat's without. Yeah, yeah, he. That that's what I'm saying. I I think I, I don't know. I want to see it and after my opinion of devin haney changed, since he was so cool to us. But I think I think I want to see devin haney get hit too. I want to see. I think he I don't think he's gonna, you know right he got a fight coming up.
Speaker 1:He got. He's kind of inactive too, I don't count, he's going to. He got a fight coming up.
Speaker 3:He's kind of inactive too. I don't count that last fight because it was so funny. He's going to do the same thing, bro. We got to get Brian Norman on the fucking show man.
Speaker 1:We chatted up with him.
Speaker 3:He seemed interested to come on.
Speaker 1:He asked twice.
Speaker 2:He's like wait, what's your podcast? I think he's viewed my shit before. He's viewed my shit before he's getting a lot of fans too. He's getting a lot of like. His fan base is growing. His popularity is growing pretty quickly.
Speaker 3:It's nice to see it's cool, we're already cooking, so let's just keep it rolling. We're an hour 14 in. Sorry Willie. Let's speak on Brian Norman Jr real quick. And this I was going to say for the end of the show what's this with the steroid talk, talk they're saying? Bill haney was like I want him to get vada testing right now. He was like no, I'm on vacation. Norman was like no, I'm on vacation. Boxers have been speaking out for brian norman jr. Uh andre, uh durell, am I?
Speaker 3:saying, yeah, I'm fucking around yeah yeah, jesus, this tequila, uh he was. He was saying how like no bill, he's not gonna, he's not gonna get tested right now he's on vacation. Like leave him alone, agree or disagree?
Speaker 1:I even know Brian take vacations.
Speaker 2:He's such a fucking calm guy like they're like why is he going on vacation when he should be in camp for a fight like bro?
Speaker 1:that fight is four months away no fighters doing a fucking four month camp no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:it's probably the first vacation he ever took. Exactly, it's like take it now because you're not going to be able to go on one. He's from Georgia.
Speaker 3:Who cares? Take as many vacations as you want. Who gives a shit and just train for your fight when camp happens?
Speaker 2:I'm not saying, and then he agreed to do it to shut them the fuck up. And Devin Haney is like, yeah, do what you're told. And it's like I hate his persona, bro, he acts like he's got Tank's knockout percentage.
Speaker 1:He's a little kid at heart, bro. He's mad cool though.
Speaker 3:After seeing him ringside and his interaction with other fighters, he is kind of funny Again, though, I hope I love seeing him without Bill.
Speaker 1:It was so cool bro.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was so cool Seeing Devin on his own talk. His shit was good to see for me. Devin can talk shit he's hilarious he really is.
Speaker 2:I hate the persona he has bro.
Speaker 1:He dead ass was mad cool. Like I'm like this, he's really talking. He's like yo, I'm like yo, this is somewhere I can really hang out with. Like he's really that cool. I'm like damn this is. But he's like, if you would like not know him, like not have that interaction, you would think like yo, he's a probably a weirdo that's most fighters, though most people like most we only see clips and what people post and the news media posts.
Speaker 3:When you actually meet someone in person, it does change your perception. But at the same time I'm Team TO. I'm Team.
Speaker 1:Shakur bro, so you know where I stand with this shit. I'm Team Tank Woman beater.
Speaker 3:He didn't do it, I'm just kidding. So yeah, woman beater Going for it.
Speaker 1:He didn't do it, I'm just kidding. I don't believe all women. Let me rip a shot of that too. We're an hour in. I don't believe all women, sorry.
Speaker 3:Should we take a five-minute break or should we just keep rolling before we get into the rest? What do?
Speaker 2:you think I'm with either, I don't know how much y I want to talk about that Barrios Pacquiao bullshit.
Speaker 3:There's not much to talk about.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go.
Speaker 3:We still didn't get to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to go and we got to.
Speaker 3:We got to. I didn't. I didn't do much research, but we got to preview shoe York, shoe shoes fighting. I'm not going to be there. I'm upset, sly, sly. You've been a loyal listener now this long. Do you think we should take a one minute or 30 second break? Quick? Or what haney is doing? What uh was told by young thugs leftovers. Did you guys cover bob arum roasting haney? No, I don't think we did. Um, yeah, he, bob arum said something about like he's. He's like hard to uh. What'd he say? He's hard to promote or whatever kind of like the same shit he said about Crawford. I don't know you guys want to take a quick 30-second break?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm fine with whatever bro.
Speaker 1:It sounds like you want one? My poly about to hit.
Speaker 3:I just got to make it, willie, are you good, because I want you to stick around. Are you good? We'll wrap it up in 30 minutes, 9 o'clock, bro. I'm just going to make a drink 9 o'clock for me. Y'all can go after that. I'm going to take a two second break because I got William West. Willie Puma, puma is out. You pulling up to the shoo, shoo fight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, speak on that Willie, I'll be listening and making a drink. If this parlay hit tonight, I might pull up, I might hit a nosebleed or something no no no, no no, I had to hit the floor.
Speaker 3:No, you're sitting on the floor, willie.
Speaker 1:Don't make me drink Puma, all right all right, I had to sit on the floor. What the hell is this Shit man?
Speaker 2:My boy hit a UFC parlay last night.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know dig about UFC really, but he called me and he was telling me how he got on this parlay black fighter named Kevin Holland.
Speaker 1:I don't know nothing about him.
Speaker 2:Apparently, when he's a favorite, he loses. Then there's another fighter named Michael Johnson when he's an underdog, he wins. He put them both on a par. They got plus 3,500 odds on it and they both hit. Get the fuck out of here. I don't know how much he won. He didn't tell me how much he put down. I'll have to ask him he probably put like $10.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's still, though, $10, that's still like over. You said, plus how much $3,500.
Speaker 2:Yeah, $10.
Speaker 1:So that means he got what? $350? Something like that. He put $1,300? Yeah, yeah, $10. That's a good one If he put $100100, he would have got $3,500 if he only put $10 he got $3,500.
Speaker 2:Yup, we put on the UFC fight once the damn shit was over, cause we wanted to watch that Holloway shit.
Speaker 1:I fell asleep during Manny Pacquiao fight.
Speaker 2:I wanted to. That fight sucked, bro, and I knew it was gonna suck. I knew it was gonna be bad in. Some knew it was going to be bad in some shape or form.
Speaker 1:It was bad, but it was like. Whatever, it was bad, but it was like you see Manny doing shit, I'm like I'm shocked Like damn, he's moving kind of fast. Then you just see Barrios taking it easy, Like bro, what are we doing here?
Speaker 2:I feel bad because I wouldn't say I'm cool with him. I used to be cool with him. I'm not cool with him, no more. There's no beef. Obviously we don't talk. He's a fucking fighter with his family now. I definitely don't have any bad will against him.
Speaker 2:I'm grateful that he gave me an interview when he gave me an interview, but like yeah he didn't have to give me an interview when he gave me an interview, so I'm very appreciative of him for it and I got nothing against him. But if you're you're not, I got to put that shit to the side when I honestly assess things, whether it be a fight performance or the decisions you make. But this man is a world champion at a premier weight division historically and in his three title fights he fought a nobody that was supposed to be a showcase and got beat up in that fight even though we won, and that dude got his ass beat by polanco. And then he had a draw against abel ramos, who was coming off of back-to-back losses and hadn't fought in like almost two years.
Speaker 3:and then he fights a 46 year old man he pacquiao to another draw and, and I just want to say something, let's just get right into the pacquiao barBarrios, like you guys already obviously are. Everything you just said is 157% true, but we're leaving one part out. That's a slight to Barrios. And again, like you said, we're not trying to cook him, but Pacquiao looked like shit. He didn't look good, bro Pacquiao looked like total shit.
Speaker 3:I don't know what the announcers were on, I get it. He's a legend. Blah, blah, blah, which is great. Old Pacquiao would have killed Barrios, right yeah, this older, actual old age Pacquiao, though, looked horrible, was extremely flawed, was slow, his punches had no pop or power on them. It was insane. And that's nothing against pacquiao, that's what we expected, right, barrios? What are you doing? What?
Speaker 2:are you doing? He didn't do anything. He didn't necessarily do anything wrong, he just didn't do anything he didn't do nothing right.
Speaker 1:but I, I don't know, I didn't see the fight like that. When I was watching it, maybe I was halfway asleep, but I felt like Pacquiao just gave me some of my pulse. It just felt like he was doing more. He was doing shit. It looked like he was kind of quick. I felt like he was jumping on him a couple of times. He was doing little combinations, but he was doing maybe three combinations and shit.
Speaker 3:Can I be honest though?
Speaker 1:You don't think so, bro. I felt like, oh shit, this is like 47-year-old Penny Pacquiao. I'm like, damn, this is crazy.
Speaker 3:For his age. Yeah, the cardio looked good. He was still throwing, but, dude, he almost won. Barrios has a belt, like Barriosrios. What are you doing?
Speaker 1:What if he would have won?
Speaker 3:that belt. Pacquiao couldn't dodge anything. Every punch Barrios threw.
Speaker 1:Pacquiao got hit.
Speaker 3:And he was like, oh, what the hell. And then Pacquiao annoyed me, bro, and I'm not taking anything away From the legend of Pacquiao he annoyed the fuck out of me.
Speaker 2:Every body shot, he he's complaining.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there was no low blows. There was not one low blow.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:He was like In the clinch the few clinches there was. He's like talking to him Like shut up, dude, and his corner was right. But shame on Barrios, he should have knocked him the fuck out. Floyd Mayweather would have fucking de-headed Pacquiao yeah.
Speaker 2:He had a bad taste in my mouth about that fight going into it, especially with the Caipo Gallego shit, the matchup. I was suspect of the whole thing. I was like this feels like a setup. I feel like Mark right now because of this fight. Real quick, I'm sorry. Shout out to my guy Ray he says you need like a setup.
Speaker 3:Like I feel like Mark right now because of this fight Real quick, I'm sorry Shout out to my guy Ray. He says you need a bigger cup. But no dude, you're right. And it was like. I thought this reminded me a lot of Jake, paul and Chavez Jr Like who did it better. Who did it better Because Barrios is not that bad of a boxer right.
Speaker 1:Like he is not that bad of a boxer right. Like he's not that bad of a boxer.
Speaker 2:His coach did a good thing and he was like yo what I don't know, I don't give him too fucking respect. I don't know, and then goes out and hugs him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like you know. But you know what he said stop, he said stop. He said don't tap his glove. He goes out there and, yeah, tap his gloves.
Speaker 3:No, like if I'm his coach, I'm smacking him in the face, like if you don't beat the shit out of this old man.
Speaker 2:We're going to lose. That's nothing against the legend of.
Speaker 3:Pacquiao. That's nothing against the legend, this version of Manny Pacquiao. If you don't go out there and beat the piss out of this old man, your whole legacy is gone Yo that shit was funny. His stock plummeted last night, oh dude, and I know you're a big fan of him. Like you said, he showed you respect in the beginning. Is he the worst belt holder you've ever seen?
Speaker 2:No Like main belts no, at that weight class or in general.
Speaker 3:I mean you could go and based off this performance, Bro, people forget Terry Flanagan was the champion dog.
Speaker 2:That dude fucking sucked true, true, you're right, you're right, but, like terry flanagan, would have threw more punches yeah, I don't, like, I'm still, I'm still highly skeptical of that fight last night because you think, like barrios kind of looked like shit since he left virgil hunter.
Speaker 3:I'm just gonna throw that out there because the, the barrios.
Speaker 2:You saw fight tank was so much better than the one we saw last night. In the last three fights the only fight he's looked good with just bob santos as his main trainer. He fought that giovanni santiago guy who's who's nothing. But then he looked really good against ugas and I was like, okay, you know what I like what Barrios is doing. And then the three fights since then. He's a lot like Caleb Plant. He looks very good for the first six rounds and then he's not good in the second half of the fight. He let Ramos get back into it. He let Maidana get back into it. He let Pacquiao get back into it. He let Maidana get back into it. He let Pacquiao get back into it. There's something seriously wrong with him.
Speaker 3:Pacquiao. He didn't let Pacquiao get back into it. He didn't do anything, bro. He let Pacquiao have it Like I thought Pacquiao won. I really thought Pacquiao won just on activity alone and, like bro, every punch he threw landed on Pacquiao and Pacquiao was flustered by it and I'm like, oh, I almost live, bet a knockout, because I was like, oh, it's coming, it's coming, and he just fucking stop, he just quit jabbing and the jab was like landing and he wasn't.
Speaker 3:Pacquiao was landing a little bit, which was cool to see, but he never hurt him. It was never like he was slow. You saw it coming. You knew he was going to pop around and flurry.
Speaker 2:He didn't start doing anything until the last two rounds. Barrios. He went away like six through nine, six through ten and then 11 and 12 came back.
Speaker 3:You know who else did that Chavez Jr vs Jake Paul. Who did it better?
Speaker 2:I'm saying, bro, I'm highly skeptical of what we saw last night.
Speaker 1:I told y'all this is going into the entertainment man, this is world boxing entertainment right now, bro.
Speaker 2:And PBC needs to do something. They're throwing shit at the wall, bro.
Speaker 1:You said that before right.
Speaker 3:They're holding on.
Speaker 1:I mean, they got some good fighters, but they don't barely fight.
Speaker 2:They barely fight Whatever hype they used to have is gone. Jamal Charlo is eons away from how popular he used to be and how much people actually wanted to watch him fight.
Speaker 1:It's an inactivity, exactly.
Speaker 3:What's next for?
Speaker 2:Barrios. I don't know. I hate to bring this guy up every episode, but you know what? People laugh at me when I say Rashidi Ellis deserves a title fight. You're going to tell me he wouldn't have beaten either one of those guys last night.
Speaker 3:Oh my goodness, I could name You're right and I agree I could name 30 people that could fucking. It was that was. I could name your right and I agree I could name 30 people Fucking it it was. That was the, that was the, the, the downfall of Saturday. Saturday was a great boxing day and then I'm I'm watching this old Manny Pacquiao come out and, yes, he sold, sold out a bunch of. Oh, you could do it. You could do it when you're old, you can do it.
Speaker 1:Come on, dude, just pass the torch I'm sick of seeing this the fact that he went in a post-conference like I'm back, I said man, you better stop. I thought this was one and done.
Speaker 2:To answer your guy's question, though, right.
Speaker 1:What was the question?
Speaker 2:About what's next for Barrios, unless a rematch happens, which it might, but we don't know. Unless a rematch happens, I believe the WBA is still vacant because Boots moved up. Oh yeah, but they have an interim title holder and if PBC can somehow get that fight to be for the WBA full title and make it a unification fight with the WBC title, do not be surprised if they start fucking rolling out a Barrios versus Roley pay-per-view. I'm being 100% honest.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's true. That's a valid assumption.
Speaker 1:I'm taking my boy Roley for that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, based off what I Roley, used to beat him up in sparring. From what I heard back in the day, it was a long time ago, but he would drop him.
Speaker 3:Based off what I saw in this performance and I'm big on what have you done for me lately, roley he hasn't done shit since that Ugas fight, roley knocks Pacquiao out in the second round. In my opinion, if he was to fight him, it was just fucking depressing dude. I, if he was to fight him, like oh, it was just fucking depressing dude, I'm all in a high Again. I'm alone. Willie left. I'm smoking a cigar, which I don't really do. I'm drinking some tequila, as usual. You can't bowl with me, man.
Speaker 2:And then I see this I was angry that whole fight, because, no matter how it ended, I was going to be angry. That's just the honesty of it. Even if Barrios went out there and put on a masterclass, it wouldn't have meant a fucking thing to me.
Speaker 1:I'm mad at Mr Drew though.
Speaker 3:It should have just put something on him. I think Haney should fucking target Barrios. I don't know why he's going for Norman Drew. Everybody's going to target Barrios now. Haney, that's more winnable than.
Speaker 1:I don't know what he thinking. I don't know what he thinking. I really don't know. He's scared to get hit, that he gonna go into the fire.
Speaker 3:I want you know who I want to fight him. Let's just get right into it now. We gotta keep things rolling. Show, as usual, goes over an hour, but whatever, rohan Polanco, he's got a fight coming up this weekend. Go get that title, bro. I know they have a common opponent. Oh yeah, that was Mario's first title defense, that was his first fight after Uga.
Speaker 2:That title, bro. I know they have a common opponent. Yeah, wait who? Maybe in my donna? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That was mario's first title defense with my donna. That was his first fight after ugas and he his eye was all swollen and shit and palanco destroyed that fucking guy go go that'd be sick bro oh boy I love rohan and then could be like I beat a guy that had a draw with Pacquiao.
Speaker 2:And he's fighting another guy that Brian Norman looked bad against this weekend, that Quentin Randall guy. Yeah, he and Norman fought like a year or two ago and they were talking mad shit back and forth Like we were expecting a war and that fight was terrible.
Speaker 3:They both looked bad, so let. And that fight was terrible. They both looked bad, so let's just get into the preview then. Quinton Randell versus Rohan Polanco. Out of New York, madison Square Garden, willie and I's fucking, that's like our home base. Madison Square Garden has become our home base. Unfortunately, I will not be there. I will be in Florida, and in this boxing game you have to take some time and step back, especially the month of July. It's been a crazy two months. Willie may or may not be there he's gambling as we speak. We shall see but Rohan is Willie's guy. I just ordered.
Speaker 1:I've been on him before. Yeah, he was Before any all this hype shit.
Speaker 3:I called it out. Where did that?
Speaker 1:come from?
Speaker 3:I don't even know he retweeted Willie or reposted Willie. I love this guy.
Speaker 1:It was before the hype, it was before everybody was he's like a prospect, crazy prospect.
Speaker 2:I got in on him when he fought on the Tiafimo Claggett undercard. Tim Bradley was hyping him up. He knocked a dude out with six straight uppercuts.
Speaker 1:Maybe that was when I was in.
Speaker 2:It was last summer, I remember what fight we went to.
Speaker 1:I don't know what fight we went to. I'm like we got to get here. We ended up eating tacos and we missed him. I was so fucking tight, Did we?
Speaker 3:Maybe that's the fight, I rolled up in there. No, you went to the bathroom the one fight and you missed him coming out. I remember that.
Speaker 1:No, we missed him. He was on a prelims.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, that was a while ago then.
Speaker 1:Yes he, we got to get there. I think that's the same fight.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I don't know Whatever. We drink too much, but Rohan should do his thing versus Quentin Randall. I don't really know too much about Randall, other than what Punch just explained. I mean, let's see here what do we got? He's American, american dude. Is he Latino? He looks Latino, he's black.
Speaker 1:Look, willie, then you're going to beat up a black guy. Aw man, he's going to beat my uncle up.
Speaker 3:Jesus, yeah, I'm here for it. But again, after this fight, I think it's time If Rohan does his thing right, if he is, but I hope he doesn't play with his food. His last fight it looked like he was playing with his food a little bit. You remember that one? Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 2:Against Maidana.
Speaker 3:yeah, he could have got that dude out of there and towards the end the end of the rounds, the second half end of the rounds, I or the last, the second half end of the fight, rohan was getting tagged a little bit and everyone was like what the fuck are you doing? But um yeah, give feed, feed, fucking feed Rohan to Barrios or vice versa On the way around feed.
Speaker 2:Barrios to Rohan. Exactly. Pbc ain't going to let that happen. They're going to try to keep that belt in-house because they know he can lose it.
Speaker 3:They know he can lose it. Barrios is going to become the richest fucking champion who sucked ever, and I mean that respectfully.
Speaker 2:He has more title defenses by draw than win.
Speaker 1:That's insane.
Speaker 3:Legitimately, that's insane. Legitimately, that's insane. I saw someone wrote how do you draw twice?
Speaker 1:in a row, not only that One title defense. Then he'd just be at the post-conference just like, yeah, it's so bland.
Speaker 3:He reminds me of a skateboarder. He's a skateboarder, okay, jesus.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's crazy. I'm serious.
Speaker 3:Really. Yeah, he is. I used to skate back in my day. It takes one to know one. You know, brother.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he fucking skates.
Speaker 3:This guy probably smoked some crazy weird strain of weed back when all those strains were coming out Train wreck. He's just too mellow, like way too mellow. Yeah, that's really all I got. And then on that same card, real quick, we have Shushu Bruce Carrington, which is why I am upset that I'm going to miss. I never, ever, ever. I think I've been to every single one of Bruce Carrington's hometown fights, not even kidding, I think I've been to every single one of Bruce Carrington's hometown fights, not even kidding. Maybe I missed one randomly, but I've been to almost all of his hometown fights. I'm a big fan of his. Obviously, you know we rep New York over here. There's not really much to say here. I didn't review this guy, Matias Haida. I don't know if I'm saying that. Right, it's for interim belt. He looks pretty thick and I don't mean that.
Speaker 2:in a weird way he's a thick dude that be african, right he's african and yeah never fought in the states, so yeah, they're all built like that, bro he he'll be tough, but um I, I will say, just like Australian fighters.
Speaker 1:He's trying to fight like Navarrete a little bit. He's not as sloppy, but he's just like.
Speaker 3:So he fights like Navarrete. I don't know much about him. He fights like Navarrete A little bit.
Speaker 1:Not like he's more slicker than it's more like cleaner than Navarrete but it than he just comes forward. He's kind of squared up a little bit.
Speaker 3:KOTKO Bruce.
Speaker 1:He's squared up a little bit 1-6, first half of the fight.
Speaker 3:Kotko Bruce, I don't know anything about Hita. I haven't even. It's for interim belt. They're tough, the African, they come over A little non-knockouts. And they're very tough. But versus who? Let's see.
Speaker 1:A bunch of Africans.
Speaker 3:Oh, bruce Carrington is going to annihilate this guy. Bruce Carrington is going to annihilate this guy.
Speaker 1:I don't think he fought in the States, yet I'm not for sure. But I've seen all the names and I don't see nothing.
Speaker 2:This feels like a showcase card for their names before they officially leave ESPN and start putting these guys on the zone.
Speaker 3:The thing with Shushu is we should be. I don't want to say talking about him and I'm not going to be biased, obviously clearly I'm a fucking. I think Shushu is going to go to MVP. I'm a huge fan of Shushu. I just feel like he needs that title shot like it's time. The time is now.
Speaker 2:We said this months ago every single one of the motherfuckers is holding out for an in a way fight, bro. It's so annoying leo's doing it. Fucking the, the fandora of the weight class, is doing it. What's his fucking name? Espinoza? Yeah, espinoza. And then who's the other one ball? I don't know what. They keep giving ball guys that are moving up ever since he got all those fans off the ring. None of them are taking big fights, bro.
Speaker 3:We should be. Shushu is so good and again he had one mediocre performance versus a very tough opponent, a high-risk, low-reward guy, that maybe he overlooked a little bit. But he's so good that we should be talking about him, as he's almost in that pound-for-pound category at his age and stuff, just in my opinion. I'm not trying to be biased, but like I don't agree with that.
Speaker 2:That's not me hating on Shushu. You guys know I love Shushu.
Speaker 3:No, maybe you're right, but he should be unifying by now at least, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he should unifying by now at least, right, yeah?
Speaker 3:right, you should be unifying.
Speaker 2:It's getting to the point. It's almost like boots, because remember how we're all like dude. Boots just needs a big fight, he just needs a big fight. But then after a while, when you keep fighting guys that nobody's heard of, whether it be your fault or not, and I don't think it's this fall to be clear but it's like after a while people are going to you run empty of. That is what I'm trying to say. I don't know how to phrase it.
Speaker 3:You become like a one-hit wonder. You got to keep coming out with rap songs. You know what I mean. You got to keep coming out with verses, but when you're not giving him a beat to get the verse, it's not his fault. Yeah, I'm not saying it's his fault. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:He got everything. It's just so. He's really. He's fucking smart. He got charisma, he got the boxing skill to back it up. He can do everything. He can literally do everything he want in the ring, bro. He's everything you want in a fighter, yeah, and he still didn't get that chance to even be champion.
Speaker 3:He only had one mediocre performance. Which, yeah, which people? But again that guy, nobody wants to fight the guy. Yeah, beat ruben via before that, yeah, so like that guy. I was just gonna say that guy is fucking tough as shit, and shushu learned from it, like this guy. Though let's just stay on track a little bit. Matias hita is all wrong for shushu. I'm betting shushu ko tko. I'll probably put a bunch of bets in because I'm biased. I'm going to be in florida. I'm not going to be here watching it.
Speaker 1:Um, I am like a big dude, like he's it.
Speaker 2:Don't do it all african fighters are built like fucking strong safeties bro. Every single one of them strong, safe they are. They're all fucking like and shit.
Speaker 3:William west says he's like he's.
Speaker 1:I'm saying like he's. This guy's built like navarrete too, like he even has no muscle mass, and oh, really weird that's weird really because you don't look at his.
Speaker 3:I'm just looking at his box rec again. I don't know much about him, but his box rec picture looks like somebody that like.
Speaker 1:Watch when you see him Look at that Watch when you see him, when you see him in his fight Like I was watching the knockout highlights and he's just weird looking Like his body type is like Navarrete, literally.
Speaker 3:I just Again. It hurts my heart, man, like I want Shushu to have a belt, like a Brooklyn champion, you know what I'm saying, Bro.
Speaker 1:I don't understand why they haven't gave him that.
Speaker 3:They're ducking bro.
Speaker 1:They're ducking.
Speaker 2:He's getting so old. Now he's been holding out for an NWA fight.
Speaker 1:He don't look old, but he's older now.
Speaker 3:Bro, I have a video of me talking to Eddie Hearn when we were harassing him and I'm like yo shoo shoo man, give shoo shoo nick paul, give shoo shoo, nick paul. Eddie hearn looks at me and goes jake paul. Did you say jake paul? I clearly said nick ball. I didn't say jake paul. Like what the fuck they duck in his ass, bro, and he knows just fucking that. Um, yeah, that's just crazy.
Speaker 3:Actually, the, the guy that I will be seeing in florida, though, my, my guy, lorenzo medina, he's fighting. I'm going to florida taking the wifey over there. We didn't do any, any vacations, so, and I I love florida, so I am gonna miss that msg card, unfortunately. Um, I'm gonna go see Lorenzo Medina. He's, he's on the get back. He's trying to get back on the right track. He did the TCL or whatever the fuck it is the combat league, shit. I'm not gonna explain. Yeah, I don't even want to talk about what happened, but it wasn't a good look. He was going through some things, but, uh, he seems to be in the right mind right now and he is coming for the heavyweights. He is coming and he's a dog, also a very young guy, but he's been through a lot mentally and he's ready. So I'm going to go shout out to him on Friday night in the Hard Rock Casino. That's why I'm missing it. But yeah, shoo-shoo man. Wait, let me read these comments real quick. I'm a little bit all over the place again. Please bear with us. We are I am new to this like live shit.
Speaker 3:Uh, william west says that shoo shoo shirt is fire. I think he's talking about this one. Um west, tune in either next week or the week after, whenever they get here. Like I said, said not this episode, but going forward I'm going to give something away every episode. I have Shushu shirts coming in from. Thanks for Playing the one, and only Thanks for Playing. I'm going to give a shirt away If Shushu wins, which I expect him to. So I'm going to give a Shushu shirt away. So tune in. And Sly Tennessee says Shushu has been marinating long enough. Give him a chance. Yeah, I mean, it's not even his fault. William West also says High risk, small reward, fighting Shoe Shoe, because his resume has no big name. High risk, low reward, fighting Shoe Shoe. Who's the high risk, low reward, william? I'm not really sure.
Speaker 2:He's talking about Shoe Shoe.
Speaker 3:Oh shit he um. He talked about shushu. Oh shit, he said it's me, will fam first I'm buying that shirt when they drop.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, I know they're not dropping. Yeah, make shirts for shushu.
Speaker 3:No more, he makes his own stuff now I think, yeah, and I think I think they're sold out of this one, sorry. I remember, though, when, when you guys did drop this shirt, uh msg was flooded yo will. Are you going to that fight? I know you are, I don't even know why I'm asking.
Speaker 3:Oh, he did. Oh yeah, he asked you if you're going, willie, you gotta pull up, bro. Um yeah, they're all ducking. Shushu. Yo Will, though, tune in or just DM me, bro. I got the other Shushu shirt that they still have, and it's also a fire shirt. I got two colors. I'm gonna give one away, and I'm not sure if I'm gonna keep the other one or not, because I'm a fanboy loser. But yeah, what else? Uh, the the main event on that card. I guess we gotta care. Come on, man, we got a lot of puerto ricans out here.
Speaker 2:I'm a zayas hater, bro, I don't hide it.
Speaker 3:I've almost been jumped at MSG for being a Zayas hater, the only reason I've said this he's mediocre.
Speaker 1:I'm right next to the family.
Speaker 2:Oh damn I don't go to fights, bro. For that reason I talk shit in the safety of my home.
Speaker 3:I talk a lot of shit, but I'm about it, I'm there, I gotta show. I talk shit in the safety of my home. I talk a lot of shit, but I'm about it, I'm there, I'm there. You know, I got to show face. I can't just talk shit and hide. I got to just keep it real.
Speaker 2:I don't hide, I live in fucking Idaho.
Speaker 3:Dude, I was thinking that too. Let's just talk about that real quick, Like you got to get out of there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I know Once, yeah, like I fucking hate it here just keep going to school with that gi bill shit, because you could. You get the bah from where you live, like in new york. It's pretty high sly tendency, says xander, always claiming he's boxing he's being ducked when he fights at top rank.
Speaker 2:Lol, clown the fact he's getting a fucking title shot before virgil pisses me off so much.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's true. This is for a belt. I expect Xander to win and he is the high favorite. I got to say, though, top rank. When Xander first came on the scene, it was Xander and Berlanga, and they were looking for that Puerto Rican. Whoever on the inside was like we need a really good Puerto Rican.
Speaker 1:I mean it's smart, if's smart in the New York area and Xander is well-spoken, he's a good-looking dude.
Speaker 3:He's underwhelming in the ring now. He is underwhelming, and that's why I was kind of a hater, because I was like I was betting him knockout K-O-T-K-O and he wasn't. He was outscoring, outpointing, I think. Though, how old is Xander?
Speaker 1:I think he was young, my boy, our boy, what's him call it? Jahai was calling him out. That shit was so funny, bro. Jahai Tucker was calling him out early he literally followed him to the press conference room so he didn't call him out.
Speaker 3:He's like yo, I'm going to call him out. Jesus. Sly, meaning Top Rank, protects their prospects like you protect your sister's cherry. Oh what, god, god damn. Oh, my goodness, I don't even like cherries, I'm allergic. I know what you mean. Sly, whose smoke detector is that? Is that mine? Yeah, it's not mine.
Speaker 1:I don't look here, it's yours.
Speaker 3:I hear it too in the headphones.
Speaker 1:Don't look this way. I know black people. They don't ever change the battery.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that was such a real stereotype, but that shit's true bro.
Speaker 1:That shit's true, bro. I went to Jersey. I can't even say it's 148.
Speaker 3:We are not going over two hours. All right, guys. God damn, we always fucking go over an hour. William west says jahai slash, jahai versailles. That's interesting right now. Yeah, I think it is pretty interesting because, uh, we know jahai's a dog, but hey, listen, we got to talk about zaez right now and we do have to preview the fight. I mean, I think he's going to win. I think top rank wants him to get a belt and listen when he gets that belt going forward, virgil Ortiz versus there's some beef there now. They were talking shit, right? Someone ducked someone. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, so that's a good fight. Uh, sebastian fundora zayas. Honestly, I think zayas has a better shot versus fundora than virgil ortiz, agree or disagree?
Speaker 2:wait, hold on. Are you saying zayas has a better shot against fundora than virgil ortiz has a?
Speaker 3:shot against. No, no, no, no, no. Zayas has a better shot to beating um fundora than beating Virgil Ortiz Jr. Well, yeah, dude, virgil kills them both.
Speaker 2:I'm being honest.
Speaker 3:I agree, but there's one big question mark with Virgil and remember when we met him.
Speaker 1:That hand.
Speaker 3:Something's going on with that hand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, his hand was fucked up. He wasn't even trying to get this shit out to nobody.
Speaker 3:I mean that was a while ago I hope I'm wrong. But when you hit like him and no disrespect to Shakur, shakur has brittle hands but he does not hit like Virgil Ortiz Jr, virgil mills people. Something's going on with that hand.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Zyla's fans were trying to say Virgil ducked him because he fought Madrimov instead. What? The fuck out of here.
Speaker 3:A harder fight, that's way harder, yeah, way harder, no, no. But again, I'm rooting for Zayas. He really has put New York on his back and, as you know, me and Willie are fucking New York fans. And he does sell though, bro, he does sell. I was going to tell you. I know you have your feelings about him, but you should try to get him with Thanks for playing, because they will purchase his shirts, bro, the Puerto Ricans show up for him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they show up. He's got his own thing going on too, because I've asked a lot of those guys. They just make their own shirts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, but they're not as good quality.
Speaker 2:Yeah they're not, but good quality yeah, they're not the thickness.
Speaker 3:This was washed a hundred times probably and we're still good, faded a little bit. Yeah, I think that's it for today. We were over an hour. Clarissa fights as we can too. Oh yeah, clarissa does fight, I think she's going to demolish it all.
Speaker 2:Nobody's ever going to get her fight.
Speaker 1:And Tony. Harrison's coming back for the first time in 25 years, clarissa, nobody's going to Detroit.
Speaker 3:No, You're wrong, because you're totally wrong. Willie, who's going there? My ticket guy, my friend KO Tickets, he told me he's like dude. That Detroit show is selling fast.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:He's like it is, so she's a draw over there bro.
Speaker 1:And Tony.
Speaker 3:Harrison too. It's like a local company, Is he? I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:He looked like a New York guy Maybe after that, ali shit, they was like, oh, we gotta go see him now.
Speaker 3:Props to Nico, ali Walsh too, or whatever. Nico right yeah. They asked him recently about what he thought of the shit going on. He's like Clarissa's the greatest I don't know if she's fighting to his aunt. He's like I don't know if she's fighting, but Clarissa right now. He was very honest and I gained so much respect because he didn't just go and say yeah, he didn't just go and say my aunt's going to kill him talking bullshit. He literally spoke facts.
Speaker 1:Sly says She'd be a little bro in the morning.
Speaker 3:Dude, I can't even Sly. I know you like our show and we keep it raunchy, but we're trying not to get canceled. So if you could, please just take a step back a little bit. And did you get the merch I sent you yet? Did you get the merch I sent you yet? Did you get the merch? All right, guys, let's close it out. Going forward. Boxing takes a little bit of a break. Until what? Is it August? No, no, september. Right. September is the big. It kicks up again, right August. It takes a little bit of a break.
Speaker 2:Am I right? Yeah, I can't remember no big fights in august, at least off the top of my head. I'll look real quick while you're talking yeah, so.
Speaker 3:So if there is, while while punch is looking, if there's no big fights coming in august, which I don't think there is. I think I looked it up, um we're gonna try tank.
Speaker 1:Fight was supposed to be august, but I doubt it no, I think that's gonna be pushed.
Speaker 3:Yeah, aside from the tank fight, even if there's one like these last two months boxing has been so good.
Speaker 1:We haven't been really pushing interviews or anything I mean all the good fighters already fought, like this year.
Speaker 3:So yeah, unless anything major gets announced, like last minute. Um, we're gonna try and push for some more interviews going forward. When there's lulls in boxing, we'll we'll push for some more interviews. Um, and punches our guy for that who?
Speaker 1:would you like? Like to see you fight right now that haven't fought.
Speaker 3:You know me, I want TO to pop up.
Speaker 1:He didn't fight this year, he fought this year. Yeah, he fought on the Itam Square. I want him to fight.
Speaker 3:I want all the big names to fight honestly.
Speaker 2:I just looked it up. It's not a big fight, but you got Duarte Sims with Regis on the undercard and big fight but you got duarte sims with regis on the undercard that was and then you got the itama dylan white card too, with like nick paul and raymond ford and shit. Mid, it's a mid month for boxing, which is good, we need a little break.
Speaker 3:You know, july usually does heat up and then we we go into september, where we got canelo and crawford and those monster cards popping up. Then september is usually a good month for boxing. Uh, again, we're gonna try and throw a little like fight party and like half the proceeds, if you buy a ticket, is gonna go to a local boxing gym that's a party without woolly man damn oh yeah, you're not gonna be there, damn it, but you'll still sell tickets for me. Thank you, uh, yeah, that's really it.
Speaker 1:Come to the sparring party.
Speaker 3:Again, whatever, jay will be there. Yeah, he will be there.
Speaker 1:I know everybody I know.
Speaker 3:Going forward, though, as the shows go on, I'm going to give something away each show, whether it be a shirt, whether it be a stack of supplements if someone pops hot for PEDs, whether it be an autograph you can't see. See here, I can't turn the camera around. I have a shitload of memorabilia on the walls and I want to I want to like, get rid of some and replace and it's going to be out of the goodness of my heart it wasn't that one right there what I think, which one?
Speaker 3:but the collage of people, the collage of pictures of me and my shut up. Oh yeah, we're gonna, uh, we're gonna, start raffling some shit not raffling, just giving some shit away. Uh, as this goes forward, that's what I'm due to switch it up. As you know, we are affiliated with thanks for playing t-shirts. They make great quality t-shirts. Sponsor fighters fighters get a fucking percentage, a big percentage of the profit from those shirts. I think the company makes no profit, right? No profit at all. Not off the fighter shirts. No, no, not off the fighter shirts. Um, and they have some big things coming too with the creative genius. If you look at his memes, you know he's a creative genius. Uh, he may be a jaguar fan, but he is a creative dude.
Speaker 2:Oh, he lost the energy boy.
Speaker 1:He lost all aura.
Speaker 3:We'll catch you all next week. Juan Corrado, this show is my secret code for upgrading from casual.
Speaker 2:Juan's my boy. He was there at the fights last night when you texted me that fucking dude got dropped.
Speaker 3:Yeah, juan, just so you know. We got five minutes before we hit two hours and we are going to stop at two hours. Just so you know. I didn't text him that. I texted him in the beginning of the first round when Zu got dropped and I was like yo, I texted him. I was like bro, I knew I should have bet Fundora KO TKO because I know after a first round knockdown it's really hard to get back, especially versus a fighter like Fandora. I didn't text him that he called it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think I jinxed him quitting in the corner. For real. That was crazy. Yeah, I think I'm out of breath. I've been fucking rambling the tequila's kicking in. I'm getting warmed up. I got a lot of cranking and editing to do. You got anything, Willie. You got anything to plug. I don't know, I'm tired, tired Willie's got to go to bed. What do you got? I know you got a bunch to plug.
Speaker 2:Just the Regis shirts. That's about it for now. Regis Pro Grey is coming back. That's tough, that fucking shirt is tough, that shirt is crazy. He's fighting, I'm fighting JoJo too.
Speaker 3:Diaz and I was going to say I don't want to pre. When is that fight again? August 2nd, okay, oh. So there's two weekends from now. Yeah, so next weekend. Fuck, I don't think I'll be here next weekend.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to be here, neither I'm going to be in Arizona visiting my grandparents.
Speaker 3:So we're not going to be here. That's a tough fight for Regis, I think Tougher than Because JoJo could box.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but JoJo quiz.
Speaker 3:I'm rooting for Regis too. Damn. We're getting more viewers. I feel like the longer we stay on, the more people pop in.
Speaker 1:We should have started earlier or later. Or later, Willie, or later Assholes. Anyway, that's all I got. Like and subscribe to the video man.
Speaker 3:Like and subscribe His channel punchlines underscore boxing, the funniest guy on Instagram with the best memes in the game, creative genius. Don't let his stupid Jaguar shirt fool you. Willie's a Cowboys fan, I'm a Jet fan. We all suck. Yeah, true'all. Yeah, true Peace. I don't know how to end it. Hold on, here we go again.
Speaker 1:You should have had your hands on it.
Speaker 3:Every fucking time the show goes longer because Nick doesn't know how to Puma, that's not my name. Puma doesn't know how to end stream.