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THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST
Part 2 of 2: Boxing's Triple Threat Weekend Preview: PAC's Return, "BAM" IN TX & USYK vs DUBOIS 2
The hosts analyze multiple boxing events happening in one weekend, focusing on Usyk-Dubois, Rodriguez-Cafu, Pacheco-McCumby, and Pacquiao's return against Barrios.
• Usyk expected to overcome Dubois in rematch despite controversial first encounter
• Daniel Dubois training specifically on the body shot combination that dropped Usyk previously
• Trevor McCumby facing highly-touted prospect Diego Pacheco with legitimate puncher's chance
• Will Jesse "Bam" Rodriguez continue to impress with exceptional footwork and angle creation
• Manny Pacquiao fighting after four-year layoff against current champion Mario Barrios
• Sebastian Fundora vs Tim Tszyu rematch carrying significant intrigue after cut stoppage in first fight
• Doghouse open sparring event in Brooklyn showcasing real talent including Rashidi Ellis
• Boxing politics affecting fight scheduling with fighters being booked for future bouts before completing current ones
Let's just get right into it, right? You want to talk about Usyk-Dubois first? Yeah, that's the first fight right Punch. Do you always go off the rip Like you don't take notes or do you do any research, or are you just what you think and what you know? I'm curious. Yeah, just what I know. That's crazy dude. Good for you. Thanks, bro. I have the worst short-term memory ever. The shit is just fucking gone.
Speaker 2:Bro, when I used to do comedy I didn't even write my jokes down, Everything was in my head because I I hated when I'd go to an open mic you'd see comedians like reading jokes off their phone no, that's dumb, that's dumb yeah, it's like, well, it's common. I'm not like it's a, it's a thing, but it's like I'm gonna work on memorizing it in my head because I'm gonna need to do that when I when I get longer set. So I actually never.
Speaker 1:I never wrote a single joke down that's what you should do, though, like you can't, when you read it off the cuff, it doesn't hold the same weight in my opinion.
Speaker 2:Well, no, they would look it up like they would have jokes in their phone. I'm not saying they would read it off their phone like a script, but they would look through their, their like jokes and see like, which joke to tell next. But while on set, like live at an open mic, oh, think of an open mic like sparring yeah, but still like at an open mic.
Speaker 2:Think of an open mic like sparring yeah, but still at an open mic. I was like, look, I'm going to work on memorizing this and if I can tie it with it, I wouldn't do that. Oh, what should I tell next? What should I tell next?
Speaker 1:But speaking of open mic like sparring, you just made something come into my head that I want to shout out real quick Yo.
Speaker 3:Why are you holding your iPhone?
Speaker 1:Because, I'm excited about this and I hope it keeps happening, because I couldn't go. That fucking sparring thing that Turk did we didn't touch on that Friday. Yeah, that doghouse open sparring shit Turk did in Brooklyn. Did you see that, Willie? That was Turk. I thought that was MVP. No, it was Turk. And Box Raw. Yeah, Dude, that shit was fucking fire. Bro Rashidi versus Jaleel Hackett fire.
Speaker 2:That's a real fight. That's a real fight and you guys know I'm a big Rashidi Ellis fan Fire.
Speaker 1:Sly says 168 has some killers on the rise, pacheco billy, etc. This, this has been an awesome show. You know I love the sly tendency guy. I don't know you, I don't know where you're from. We were talking your girl and you went to a weird al yankovic concert, but I like you man, he's super cool.
Speaker 2:he messaged me all the time. Yeah, um, here's the only criticism I have of that shit, though. What? Uh, like showcase these fighters that, like you, you know it's good fighters but are like not popular. The whole thing was to show, showcase them, right? Yeah, if you go to the post, they have like two, maybe three posts where they actually say who it is in the ring, and then when you slide through all these pictures, you can't tell who any of them are, because they're in headgear. They are because they're in headgear.
Speaker 2:they got shirts on the only people tagged are box, raw box or just tagged themselves. I was like I love how y'all only tag yourself so we can't tell who the fuck it is yeah, that's fucked up.
Speaker 1:That is like we don't care about box raw.
Speaker 2:Tell me who the fuck ring.
Speaker 1:Shout out to pete dobson though. Bro, pistol pete, he's, he's. Everyone knows him in the pro ranks and amateur ranks in new york. Uh, he's a local. Yo, pistol Pete did his fucking thing. I don't know who the fuck he was sparring, but he's like I'm getting on this Canelo card, I'm getting on this fucking Canelo card and he's really, really, really, really good. He gave Conor Benn a run for his fucking money. So Pete Dobson is he's like. He fucked this dude up. That's another fight out of there, marquis Chet knocked out a dude too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I saw that too, bro. That shit was embarrassing. And what's his name? Kurt Scooby Scooby.
Speaker 2:yeah, he dropped out of the bar.
Speaker 3:You out there just sparring. You think you're in a sparring match. You get knocked out, or live TV, that shit was sick, bro.
Speaker 1:That shit was sick, bro. That shit was cool, though that shit was cool On stream as well. Oh God, dude, the shit like if we had money like that to just have fun, like Turk does Jesus.
Speaker 2:Christ. All right, I'm hoping Rashidi can get on that card, man.
Speaker 1:No, rashidi needs a fight man, and actually we already spoke. We're going to try and get Rashidi on the show Nice yeah. To try and get rashidi on the show nice yeah. So all right, let's get into it, though we we have. We got to make this quick. Willie's gonna kill me, bro. Willie got to sleep, bro. God damn you. You, we're working men. Uh. Alexander usic versus daniel dubois, lawrence acoli versus kevin larina on the undercard. Let's just because time purposes, we're just going to speak on Alexander Usyk versus Danny Dubois. There's not much to really speak on.
Speaker 3:They fought each other once before my boy got robbed for the knockdown, willie thinks he got robbed he got robbed for the knockdown.
Speaker 1:And you know what, willie, you could make that argument and you know I'll give it to you. You could argue that right U, I'll give it to you. You could argue that right Usyk is not losing or making it back close again. Look what he did to Fury, the pound for pound, best heavyweight, the heavyweight they said could fight in any era of boxing. Look what Usyk did to him the second time. And Dubois is not on the same level as Tyson Fury. That's just my opinion. Punch, go ahead.
Speaker 2:What do you got? No, I'm pretty much the same. I'm going to keep it short. He looks better than he has before. He's on a good win streak. If Usyk is still Usyk and still mentally all committed, I think it's a wash.
Speaker 1:And I think Usyk is.
Speaker 3:Usyk is, usyk is. My boy got a punching chance, that's all I got to say, yeah, he does.
Speaker 1:And I want to give Dubois his credit. One thing I noticed about him while he trains, he's getting better bro. While he trains, while he trains I just spit.
Speaker 3:That shit works. Nah, richardson was spitting all over me, bro, I'm poor. Oh nah, richardson was spitting all over me. Oh bro, I was poor. Yo say hello man Say hello, this guy was just yelling. I'm like I know he's just passionate right now, but he's just flying, bro, shit was flying.
Speaker 1:Yo, I saw something, though In just the few clips they post when Dubois was training, and multiple pros have told me this he's working and this is what knocked Usyk down, even though it was low or arguably not low. He's working on the same thing over and over again, the same combo, over and over and over again. And if you look at that last Usyk fight when he's hitting the pads, the same combo that knocked Usyk down was what he was working on in the pads, over and over and over again. And he knows Usyk's weak to the body. So I'm not going to say he doesn't have a shot, but I'm just saying Usyk is going to adapt and overcome man.
Speaker 2:You also got to expect Usyk, to expect that too.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying Adapt and overcome.
Speaker 2:Usyk is not, is not sick is the best, the best heavyweight that we have seen yeah, and he won't tell you that, though that's the crazy thing about him he's mike mike ladaris just said are you guys still rating female fighters?
Speaker 3:alicia bum garter, isn't that hot I'd rather pipe michaela meyer yo you, mike God damn that video went viral, though he said. I'd rather pipe McKayla Meyer Listen she wasn't on the car so McKayla couldn't be in the smash a pass.
Speaker 1:Guys, guys, we're going to keep this PG 13. I'm team McKayla Meyer for various reasons. That's all I'm going to say. We talked about that earlier in the show, show rewind. I'm a loyal man. Yeah, he's. He's like the english. He likes a good english english, fucking muffet. Let's keep going. All right, um, all right. So let's give our. We gave no predictions. We always give a prediction. Let's give one final prediction. Willie, you go first. What do you? What's your prediction in this fight?
Speaker 3:and willie, willie's been tearing it up I'm betting, at least it depends with the over under, on the knockdowns, at least over. I'm betting, at least it depends what the over under and the knockdowns, at least over one One knockdown, at least over one knockdown. It depends what it's the over under. I don't even know what it is. That's probably going to be my best bet.
Speaker 1:I'm doing it. So I'm going to go and then punch, we're going to give it to you. I'm going Oleksandr Usyk KO TKO. I don't know when I might do a round bet seven through nine or something, a round group bet, but Oleksandr Usyk KO TKO in a fun fight.
Speaker 2:I'm going TKO, I think, and I think specifically it'll be a corner stoppage, Like stopped in the corner in between rounds.
Speaker 1:All right, the picks are in. That's it for that fight. The undercard looks okay. The good thing about this fight is it's at Wembley. It's probably going to sell out Wembley because those, the English fans, fucking show up. Those are real boxing fans. Punch you with us, hold on boxing fans. Um, punch you with us, hold on. Yeah, can you see me? Yeah, you froze a little bit, it's all good. The wembley and and the english fans are the real fans of boxing. They, they are. They are purists. Uh, laurence acoli versus kevin lorena on the undercard. That's a popular fight as well. We're not going to touch it, though, because we are time constrained. We've been here too long, my ass hurts. We're going to keep it moving. What's the next? Are time constrained, we've been here too long, my ass hurts. We're going to keep it moving. What's the next card you want to talk about? The best thing about this card is that this is a day fight on the East Coast or in America, and then that followed by what do you want?
Speaker 2:I think we should do the other because it's less popular.
Speaker 1:Which one? The BAM card? Yeah, the BAM card. I don't want to talk about the whole card, though, unless you have something you want to talk about.
Speaker 2:I am excited for Pacheco McCombie. I really am.
Speaker 1:I love Trevor. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, oh.
Speaker 3:God Trevor's mean. I totally forgot they were on that card. Oh fuck, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:What's your take? Cake on that punch. And you know, everyone that follows the show knows we're big trevor mccombie fans. He's, he's great with us he's got a shot.
Speaker 2:But I mean playing showed that he has. He didn't have an inside game and he got tired. So if he, if he fixed that, he's got. He's got a shot. You think dubai's got a puncher's chance, mccombie got a puncher's chance. That motherfucker's strong and he hits hard. But and pacheco, he's really good. You know he's up in like a highly touted, up-and-coming fighter for a reason, but he's not a perfect fighter no and he's also very young.
Speaker 1:We forget how young he is you forget trevor. Trevor be chopping wood and shit in the woods yeah so he and and trevor never, ever ever goes into a fight like to lose or just for a paycheck, like if he's training for a fight, it's to win and he has power in both hands and that showed against caleb plant.
Speaker 1:And and many argue that was an early stoppage which I do, he was, he was getting tagged up, but many argue it was it was an early stoppage, especially since he knocked caleb plant out. Or, I'm sorry down, he knocked caleb plant down, but again, uh, it's one of those things where, like, and I'm just being honest, again, I'm, I'm sorry down, he knocked caleb plant down, but again, uh, it's one of those things where, like, and I'm just being honest, again, I'm, I'm putting, I'll probably put a hundred bucks on trevor ko tko, because I'm a trevor fan and I'm backing my guy. But, ah, pacheco's pacheco. I hope he learned from that last fight, because I'm big on what have you done for me lately. And in that last fight was a really, really tough fight for him and versus a really game opponent and he did win decisively. But you know.
Speaker 2:My head tells me Pacheco, but I am rooting for very much so McCombie, my mind's telling me no, but my body, my body telling me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Trevor McCombie man, we definitely root for you. Yeah, 100%. I hope you knock him out. He came on the podcast man. Great show, Seriously, you know what?
Speaker 1:Even if McCombie loses right, Like he said, You're on the podcast.
Speaker 3:Man, you're cool as shit. Great show, you got fucking morals, you got everything and you know what.
Speaker 1:You know what, even if McCombie loses right, like he said. We asked him and you guys should go look back at our fucking history or whatever McCombie said I was like what's the biggest fight to make out of so-and-so, basically Canelo's leftovers? And he said I think that Berlanga fight is the biggest fight. To make me versus Berlanga. And now say McCombie does lose right and I do not want him to lose, I want him to beat Pacheco's ass, say he loses, that Berlanga fight now is a real big money fight.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, If he looks good against Pacheco, like if he doesn't get blitzed by Pacheco at least like complete washed. It's definitely a fight and his fight outfit is sick, I don't want to tell you.
Speaker 1:You gave me a little inside info. Yeah, it is sick oh shit. All I'm going to say is proud to be an American.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, we need more of those. He got a whole image that is going for him.
Speaker 1:Dude, I love Trevor McComfie bro.
Speaker 3:I love the stash. He got the stash, he's just real. I love real people Just keep it real, he works in youth yeah.
Speaker 1:Austin.
Speaker 2:Williams is on that card too. Yeah, but I don't know who that is, he's fighting Me neither.
Speaker 3:What Girth just said about Saudis already booking Bam against a killer.
Speaker 1:I don't like that. Girth Brooks says I don't like that the Saudis are already. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that too. I don't like that. The Saudis are already booking Bam against that killer when Bam already has a fight booked. Yeah, I don't like that either.
Speaker 2:You said it all the time it's like you can't make your next fight before your next fight.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying Don't pick your next fight before your next fight. I say it non-stop.
Speaker 2:I'm with him. They're doing that a lot.
Speaker 3:now they're doing that a lot. They're just scheduling everything.
Speaker 2:They do that a lot now. They do that a lot. They just schedule everything. They said that they want to make this. Like, oh, we want to make these fights, but they don't actually announce it. Like Bam is on the fucking fight poster for a card in November when he fights this weekend.
Speaker 3:And like Now, what if he loses, but he's not? What if he loses this weekend? And then what are they going to say?
Speaker 2:But here? What if he loses? But he's not. What if he loses this weekend? What are they going to say? Here's the thing. This is the sport of. Anything can happen.
Speaker 1:A puncher's chance is like any given Sunday. It should be any given boxing match. It shouldn't even be any given Sunday it should be any given boxing match, willie.
Speaker 2:Beeman Got the girls creaming. That's the song, though. But what I'm saying, though, is like, yeah, I don't think he's going to lose Spoiler alert but if he does, what do you do? Just have him fight another guy on a card? What if he wants that?
Speaker 1:And if you look and it's the lesser weight classes, so nobody really, and we'll just get into it. We're talking about Jesse Rodriguez versus I don't know if I'm gonna say it's right familiar kafu. Um, I don't know much about familiar kafu because it is the lesser weight classes and there's so many fucking boxers and fights going on. It's hard to analyze everything when you have a real job and and boxing doesn't make you money. But from what it looks like he trained hard. He just pulled up to dlx gym, which is a good look. Um, jesse rodriguez is jesse rodriguez. And, as I always say another thing, I always say tears matter and there's tears in boxing and say what you want about jesse rodriguez. There is jesse rodriguez.
Speaker 1:Haters is out there. Jesse rodriguez is top, top tier talent, like he's top tier talent and and the fact that I don't know anything about Fumilia Cafu means that he is not top, top tier talent and that's not taking anything away from him. He still has that any given Sunday chance and I hope he puts on a great performance and a great fight. But this is like to me. In my opinion and again, I know nothing about Cafu this is Jesse Rodriguez's first real, like gimme fight in a long time. Based off what I know about him, you know what I mean no Like. So you're saying Jesse Rodriguez's resume is shit?
Speaker 2:Oh, I thought you said this is his first real long time and I'm like what are you talking about?
Speaker 1:No, no, no, this is his first tune-up fight. Not that he needs a tune-up, that's not what.
Speaker 3:I heard Nah. Bam's been wanting to fight all the best, like all the legends, all the Sly says Cafu is a good boxer.
Speaker 1:I don't think he has much for Bam. But Kafu is a good boxer. I don't think he has much for Bam. But a lot of people thought that Angelo Leo was food for Venado Lopez. Yeah, that's facts.
Speaker 2:Venado makes a lot more mistakes than Bam does to be honest Bam is just getting better and better. He's trained.
Speaker 1:He can be dropped. Yeah, he can be dropped, but what does he do? This is my best thing I love about fighters what do you do when you get dropped? That's why I like Inouye. What do you do when you get dropped? How do you respond when you get dropped? And Bam fucking responds? And then you look at Bam's resume. Dude, people hate on him because, again, it's the lesser weight classes. They're not advertised like the heavier ones. Bam is a motherfucking problem.
Speaker 2:He moved up in weight and took a fight against carlos quadras as a last second replacement and beat his ass bro like like bam doesn't just win, he wins and while getting dropped and he got aura, yeah, he got swag bro for like when he come out with with his tattoos.
Speaker 3:now he he got like he's a young American.
Speaker 1:He's just a young, cali Texas, texas, texas.
Speaker 3:He's got Cali swag though.
Speaker 2:With his shifts and his movements and his turns. Somebody said he's like, this is like if Riggo was a front foot fighter.
Speaker 1:And had a little more dog in him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, like His angles, bro. Like, you're right, bam's angles are. I said this a while ago. I said this a while ago like when you're training a young fighter, right like just starting the box, you show him Bam footage and go this is what you want to do with your feet. Like this is what you want to do with your feet, kind of like Loma, kind of like Loma.
Speaker 3:I've been trying to teach Jaden that shit he got a shuffle replace he doing that shit naturally, and then he would throw a punch on you.
Speaker 1:Sly says he got up smiling and slept El Gallo, and he's right he did.
Speaker 2:Go look at his knockdown of quadras, bro. Beautiful things the way he feints the step and then does the step?
Speaker 1:and then switches and throws an uppercut. Dude that went viral. That went viral on every combat sports fucking video. That's the shit I was talking about.
Speaker 3:That's exactly the shit I was talking about Yo, and I'll be trying to teach that same combination, bro, with that.
Speaker 1:I almost like. At this point in his career he showed he can get knocked down. But like the old song goes, he's still young as hell.
Speaker 3:We forget how young he is. Yeah, that's true too. It's crazy and he was getting mentioned in Pound for Pound as that young.
Speaker 1:All right, so everything else on the card. I think that was what else? Is there another card, or is? I think we're? We finally reached the?
Speaker 2:end. Tack y'all card, oh shit.
Speaker 1:That's the biggest fucking name in the air.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why I said we should.
Speaker 3:We should have just did two different shows we should have did like a. Tuesday or Wednesday.
Speaker 1:Yo, if Four Corners does really well, I bet you somebody made that suggestion to Puma.
Speaker 2:I bet you somebody told Puma he should do that.
Speaker 3:Like a Wednesday. Yeah, everyone's shit.
Speaker 1:Someone did and he might be on the show now.
Speaker 3:Oh wow, that's crazy. We can do two days, no, we should do two.
Speaker 2:Me and Willie are fucking locked in dog. I can do Monday, you can't do.
Speaker 3:Mondays, though that's like too close together, Like Sunday and Monday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I work Tuesday through Friday. We'll talk about this off air. God damn it. Yeah, we don't have to talk about the whole card.
Speaker 2:I don't care about Brandon Figueroa fighting Joe Gonzalez. I'm going to watch it, but I don't care.
Speaker 1:I don't care about anything on that card. Obviously, I care about Manny Pacquiao and, based off the information that I received from a friend of mine, I was leaning more towards the other way.
Speaker 2:I still don't care about it. It's not a real. Even if he wins, he's not going to defend it against anybody worth a pub.
Speaker 1:He's not going to win, dude, he's not going to win.
Speaker 2:This is basically, but I do care about Zufandora.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, zufandora we have to touch on. Yeah, yeah For sure, and that's on the undercard Prop. Yeah for sure, and that's on the undercard Props to them for putting Once again, the co-main is the best fight. This is what the Turk effect does, though. They put good cards together, they put the pressure. This is why this is like in business, right Going in history. Business teachers should teach this. Why you can't have a monopoly, because this is just generating money for each entity, because we're like damn, this is a good card, not a great card, but it's named. It's named though. It's named recognition.
Speaker 2:PBC does a lot of this shit. They put names on it, but the odds are always just so wide, bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sly says pissed about Anthony Karrasch pulling out. Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2:He hurt his back bro.
Speaker 1:I don't think like usually I'd say oh he's ducking, but I don't think karas is taking ducks like he's.
Speaker 2:He's actually hurt yeah um on a saudi card.
Speaker 1:He's not pulling out of that no, no, hell, no, hell, no, hell, no, and and that's that's in. That's a winnable fight for him and I'm team ford, but anyway, let's, let's keep it rolling. We got to stay on track. This is tough with the comments. I don't care about Pitbull's fight. I honestly do not.
Speaker 2:I don't care about that either.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't like him either. He has knockout power, but he's the most one-dimensional fighter in the game.
Speaker 2:And his fans are fucking awful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just because he did well against Tank or he lasted with Tank, he even did well.
Speaker 2:One-handed Tank, by the way, yeah he went the distance we took him on short notice. But then even when he lost to Rail, everybody was like oh, rail just ran, rail just ran. No, no, he moved. Yeah, it's stupid.
Speaker 1:That was a great fight. Anyway, let's stay on track here, because we got to wrap this up, I got to fucking edit this shit. Assholes, pacquiao, pacquiao, manny Pacquiao versus.
Speaker 2:Mario Barrios.
Speaker 1:I almost said Mario Lopez. I was like it's not Mario Lopez, manny Pacquiao versus Mario Lopez, I mean Barrios.
Speaker 3:It's time to go Listen age.
Speaker 1:The best thing I can compare this to is Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul. The Pacquiao clips we see right, and that's all we see as fans is just the Pacquiao clips is just little 10-second clips or 5-second clips him jogging with a cool team of cool fighters and we don't see real clips. The Tyson one went a step further. They showed him sparring and landing clean shots on a real boxer that we actually know and we're like, wait, no, I don't think that really happened, but whatever, based on what we know, I heard from a friend of mine that barrios has been having problems in sparring. Uh, it doesn't matter to me. It father. Time is undefeated. I don't care how much of a legend you are, mario barrios is a champion. He, he does beat real fighters, no matter how close it is. This is going to be like a sparring match and a one-sided affair. Mario barrios decision yeah or t.
Speaker 1:I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's a stoppage bro yeah, like, and it's only because of pacquiao's age, and again, he was old, his last fight four years ago exactly. But I will say this one of one of pacquiao's best wins, I think and I'll argue with people about this and it can go either way was Keith Thurman because of his age. He was amazing and how he did that, how he won, say what you want. Where Keith Thurman was at, how Pacquiao won that fight was crazy.
Speaker 3:I'm going with Pacquiao. I'm going to bet on Pacquiao as a fan.
Speaker 1:I'm going with.
Speaker 3:Pacquiao. I'm going with the old Pacquiao. His legs never leave. He got the legs still.
Speaker 1:He trained with all them young motherfuckers bro. Really, he doesn't, he doesn't. Inactivity is a real thing, bro, and inactivity when you're in your 40s is a real thing, and he's closer to 50 than 40.
Speaker 3:Exactly, he's closer to 50 than 40. Exactly, he's still got a chance.
Speaker 2:He's Beehive's age when Beehive beat Pascal.
Speaker 1:Willie, I'm not coming at you, but do you go down the stairs like you used to? No, no, that's it. Oh my God, and we're nobody.
Speaker 3:But he's got legs. Though I don't have no legs, I got legs like Morel, willie, willie, willie. You see, morel legs, those are just chicken legs.
Speaker 2:Here's my thing, though If Pacquiao wins and I hate to say this, because y'all know I love Barrios, but that's honestly the best possible outcome, because if he wins, he's going to retire, he's going to vacate that shit, and then the WBC belt is up for grabs, and then PBC can't hold it hostage and keep doing this shit, because look at Barrios' last, I think. Then he bought Maidana and Abel Ramos, and it's like nobody wanted that shit.
Speaker 1:I'm digging really deep here and I'm getting a little deep, but I think what PBC is doing is oh shit, netflix and Jake Paul are bringing these big legends back. Turk alice chic has all the money to bring whoever the fuck he wants back. He's like oh shit, who do we got pacquiao will come pacquiao, and I think it's, it's part of this. It's actually the wall bro.
Speaker 1:yeah, it's the bad part of the monopoly, but but that being said, whatever, hey, I'm rooting for Pacquiao. I'm going to throw some money on Pacquiao to make it fun. I'm excited to see him. Yeah, I'm going to throw some money on him to make it fun. I'll have the two TVs going and we might have a dual podcast crowd here, which would be cool.
Speaker 3:We might record live. Yeah, we might have to go live for that.
Speaker 2:Real for that Zoo Fundora. Oh shit, shit, shit. I forgot about that. We've been so deep.
Speaker 1:That's the best fight on the card. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is a great fight.
Speaker 3:Hopefully there's no cuts.
Speaker 1:If Zoo correct me if I'm wrong, Zou fought after the Fundora fight, right?
Speaker 2:Twice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, all right, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it. That's all I needed. Again, I didn't do research on this because we went to the fights last night.
Speaker 2:Well, he got knocked out by the Bokrum guy in like three he got mollywhopped by that Bokrum guy in like three rounds, which is make yeah, and he did okay versus joey spencer.
Speaker 1:But but I will say this fundora is going to come and he's going to come to crack and I know zoo, before the cut, was landing hard shots on fundora, who has a suspect chin right and he has been knocked down. That tree has been chopped. But also, uh, when you get knocked down, like fundora got knocked down and you're gonna get hit by, I mean like zoo got knocked down and you're gonna get get hit by, I mean like zoo got knocked down and you're going to get hit by Fandora, I think Fandora is going to take this Cause. Fandora knocked out the last guy he bought too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yep, and, and Fandora, fandora is coming, no matter what. Whether he gets knocked down or not, you, he's only getting better and I will say this, though I'm not trying to give Zoo no chance Prior to the cut, and even with the cut, blinded Zoo was landing hard shots and Zoo does have real power. But once Zoo gets clipped after getting knocked down, like that which he is going to get by Fundora, it's not going to end well for him in my opinion, zoo was so hyped that's the fucked up part.
Speaker 3:He was so hyped. Before Fandora he was hyped I forgot what Fighter was He'd been hyped for a minute.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Zoo's real, but I can't take anything away from Zoo man. Nobody wants to fight Fandora.
Speaker 3:Nobody wants to fight Fandora. Remember Eric Spencer was trying to put himself in there he didn't fight nobody. He didn't fight neither one of them. He just put himself in the middle of the Vandora and all that Just come inside the ring like he was going to fight somebody.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad that shit didn't happen. That's PBC, though, bro. That's PBC, yeah.
Speaker 3:I know when is Spence at.
Speaker 1:They were there. Al Heyman's people were there at the ring three fight too. You're going to see some shit. It's one thing I noticed and we'll close out. Let's get our prediction for Zufandor, because that is a really good fight. I think Punch wanted to elaborate on that. Yeah, go ahead. Go off a little bit on your take on Zufandor.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no, I just wanted to talk about it. I honestly don't know, bro, because everything you said I have so many questions about it because I know Su can beat Zufandor. I know he can.
Speaker 1:Now Can he now, Based off what he's been through?
Speaker 2:But my whole thing is that, because what I hate what fighters do is when they lose a fight, they're like oh, I only lost to this guy because of this one thing. In this case, it's the cut If he goes in and tries to fight the exact same way, or if he tries to do a style that's not his style, trying to be different.
Speaker 1:I don't know. My thing is, the only thing is like, yes, you're right, um, but if, if fundora, once, once he gets, he's good, you're gonna get cracked by fundora, like you're gonna have to take hits by fundora and once that, once that brain gets jogged one more time after what he's been through, like they should have rematched immediately, but once that brain gets jogged that one more time, that's all she wrote for for zoo, man well errol spence fucked up that immediate rematch because he was supposed to fight spence next and then it got canceled.
Speaker 1:So fundora went and fought bakram yeah, it's true, but I'm just saying that in regards to this fight itself, based off what, what we know, I just I see Zoo having early, early success and then he's going to get hit by that long fucking beanstalk like he did last fight, and now it's all those horror story. Memories are going to come back.
Speaker 2:And Zoo doesn't hurt him early. I don't even mean knock him out, but if he doesn't hurt him early he's not going mean knock him out, but if he doesn't hurt him early he's not going to win. But even that the first five rounds, the first five. He landed a good shot against Fandora in that first fight. He didn't hurt him.
Speaker 1:He has to hurt him. You know what I mean. He's got to drop him or rock him, get his legs shaking. Yeah, like disable. A a hand, fundora's a dog, fundora's an avalanche that keeps falling down.
Speaker 3:That's the whole point. He throws a lot of punches too.
Speaker 1:In close. What's your pick?
Speaker 2:I don't know. This is a fight I can't pick because I honestly don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm going Fundora KO TKO. I'm just going Fundora KO TKO. Based off what I know. I think he's in some trouble early, but he is tough as shit. Fandora, he's been knocked down, got up and did his thing.
Speaker 2:It's not that I see ways both of them can win, as dumb as it sounds. I see ways both of them can lose, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 3:What do you got Willie?
Speaker 1:I think this is gonna be the first 12 round fight for them they're going 12 rounds.
Speaker 3:This fight.
Speaker 1:This is it's gonna go 12 uh, in closing slide, tendencies 87 says fandora is anonymously. Uh, it's that. He's got the most insane reach ever, but he fights on the inside. Yes, you're right, I agree, tim zoo can win, but he to be himself. I hope he's learned from his past. I think he did learn from his past, but once you get that brain rattled, all those demons come back from the depths.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can say that about both of them to be honest.
Speaker 1:Yes, true, true. But I just feel like recently Zoo had a real reality check. You know, that's all. Yeah, he lost real bad bro. Yeah, Bad dad. But hey, we got to close out the show. We are almost three hours in bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we could have made it to Atlantic City, banged a hooker and made it back. God damn Yo Punch. Always a pleasure. Thank you guys for having me. Me and Punch literally said yeah, we got to try to keep it under hour Boom, three hours here. We are All good, though who cares? We had great interactions. Hopefully we keep that going for anyone still listening.
Speaker 3:This was a fucking fantastic live man.
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Speaker 3:Later, oh man. Yo punch later, bro Wait.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my bad guys, don't talk yet. It's not your fault, god damn it. End stream.