THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST
All things boxing and then some — from breaking news and fight analysis to bold predictions, hot takes, and exclusive interviews. No scripts, no filters — just real talk, real opinions, and real banter. Rated R for raw boxing energy
THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST
KT vs. SERRANO FINAL BLOWS, SHAKUR-ZEPEDA HEAT UP! NO LOVE ON THE TENNIS COURT!
The Spar-Inn's Podcast team breaks down the biggest fights in boxing, including Serrano vs Taylor III, a full preview of Alalshikh's outdoor card featuring Shakur Stevenson vs William Zepeda, and the bizarre underworld connections of boxing's biggest names.
• Amanda Serrano and Katie Taylor complete their trilogy this Friday, with many feeling Serrano deserves to be 2-0 instead of 0-2
• Two-minute rounds in women's boxing continue to be controversial, with hosts arguing three-minute rounds would benefit Serrano
• David Morrell deserves credit for immediately taking on tough opponent Imam Kataev after his loss to Benavidez
• Puello vs Matias presents an intriguing style matchup between a boxer and an aggressive pressure fighter
• Shakur Stevenson faces questions about his hand durability against volume-puncher William Zepeda
• Edgar Berlanga must deliver against Hamza Shiraz to validate his "King of New York" status
• Julio Cesar Chavez Jr's deportation for cartel connections reveals boxing's ongoing connections to underworld elements
• Jake Paul's controversial WBA ranking exposes ongoing issues with boxing's ranking systems
Come see us at the Stevenson vs Zepeda fight! The Spar-Inn Podcast will be ringside for the entire card, bringing you exclusive content and our raw perspective.
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Speaker 2:Oh, it's like probably episode like 150. Nah, maybe like 100, but episode five live. We are here with punchlines. He's enjoying the weather.
Speaker 3:Uh, he surprised us wasn't gonna come, but he's coming he's here, yeah hey yo gushing we are uh oh, yeah, see y'all, y'all started your vanilla shit early yeah.
Speaker 2:Really has a point. Nobody is coming. We are all here. So, that being said, we have a lot to talk about, a lot of previews going on. Today we are coming off July 4th weekend. The fireworks flying, punchlines went viral, as usual, with an anti-England post. That weirdo I don't like. That weirdo that commented like made it about race some loser.
Speaker 2:Hope it's not a friend of yours, but if it is fucking yeah yeah, some guy was like I don't know it was weird, but whatever it was, uh, he posted it. Did you see it? No, I didn't. He posted like a video and it was all Americans beating up English people.
Speaker 3:That's regular shit.
Speaker 2:It was funny though.
Speaker 3:I want to know how he made it about race, because I'm fairly certain 100% of the fighters that I showed were African American, were black American.
Speaker 2:I think he said something about Joe Louis versus what's his name, the German dude.
Speaker 3:Oh, smelling.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Great moment in history, but not.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I wrote, I commented, I wrote that's not, that's German, that's not English, that's not England. And then, like a few of your other followers were like coming back, like I think he's trying to make this like a black-white thing, like I think he's trying to make this a black-white thing.
Speaker 1:He's going there. He's a fucking idiot, I shouldn't even say the N-word.
Speaker 2:Not that.
Speaker 1:N-word. That's the dude lover, right, he was like Whatchamacallit, you saw it right. No, joe Louis.
Speaker 2:He was like the N-word.
Speaker 1:I don't even know if he. That was his. He was backed byword. Yeah, he was with the. I don't even know if he. I don't know but that was his.
Speaker 3:He was backed by them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, backed by them. Yeah, Like by head-noture.
Speaker 3:But it's weird though, because Joe Louis talked about when he went over there. They were all really like German people were all like really nice to him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, they love black guys oh dude, dude, I heard that from him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, I was stationed in Germany for two years. I lived there, bro Me, willie, willie and I need to go to Germany one day.
Speaker 1:What, the what are you doing? Why are you always trying to get me in trouble?
Speaker 3:Even Jesse Owens said Germany's leader at the time was really I don't want to say his name because you know how YouTube is, but Jesse Owens says their leader at the time, which really I don't want to say his name because you know how YouTube is, but I, jesse Owens says their leader at the time was really nice to him. I'm not going to defend the guy I'm not going that far. I just found it interesting that we were taught that he was mean to him I was always taught that he was mean to him.
Speaker 3:But then Jesse Owens was like no, he was really nice to me.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. A lot of things that we learned is not really the truth.
Speaker 2:Yes, Not live. I don't think we're live on Instagram, which is annoying, but whatever, here we are. Enough about a history. It's 4th of July. Summer is officially here. Punchlines is outside catching some rays. We are inside at the spa in um. Another thing outside that we're going to speak on let me just give you the rundown real quick is a little outdoor tennis arena fight shakur stevenson versus william cepeda, berlanga versus shiraz, the undercard playovers, matias, we're going to touch on all that.
Speaker 1:Is the sparring going to be in the building?
Speaker 2:Oh yes, it is official, Willie me. And then this dude we know that we're bringing just because he's of Muslim descent. He's a fan, Just in case. No, I'm just kidding. My old co-host, fossil, is coming down to New York and we will be sitting ringside. I copped some ringside tickets.
Speaker 3:Dude, that's fucking fire.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were pricey, but it's worth it. It will be worth it in the end. They're not even selling these tickets on Ticketmaster, but we got them, so ha.
Speaker 1:We are in there what if we got scammed.
Speaker 2:Nah come on yeah, you get there and they're like this shit's not real yeah, I'm actually like a little nervous in a weird way, because like it's a turkey show, you know, and like I don't think he's used to like, yeah, like real fans and yeah, I should be going, ham brother yeah, I know that's what my kick down someone I know is actually like yo.
Speaker 2:Why don't you try to like just be half of what you are when you're there? So and I'm like I'll try, but like I can't make promises stop drinking like an hour before, two hours before yo, but I have like a christening that earlier that day and then a party, so I'm coming in hot, whatever, fuck it um, are you supposed to drink at a christening?
Speaker 2:yeah, dude, it's catholic shit, all right, um, but yeah, we will be in the building. Spartan will be in the building. Uh, we have again. So there's like there's four floor seats, right. What time are we going, though? We gotta meet here. We'll talk about that after, but we gotta meet here kind of early. I'll explain early. Yeah, um, but there's four floor seats, right like four sections, obviously. There's four, four seats, right Like four sections. Obviously. There's four sides to a ring, so two of the sides have like 12 floor seats, 10 to 12 floor seats. Then two of the other sides have three rows, so we're on one of the other sides in the middle, in the second row. So it's going to be insane.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you have retractable ring side seats.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was going to touch on that too, and then they got the ladies fighting at MSG.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So you probably think, oh, everybody that's in New York is going to be there. Yep, like all the fighters.
Speaker 2:I don't think they're not selling like they thought they were too.
Speaker 1:I see Alicia.
Speaker 2:So it will be fun, though it will be fun, I see Alicia, oh, Speaking of that Monday tomorrow do you want to go there?
Speaker 1:and meet her. It depends what time I get off. I'm supposed to be getting help tomorrow, so maybe I'll get off early.
Speaker 2:Let me know. We'll just shoot to the city. Alicia Baumgardner is doing some event in the city at the Super Rare Fight Shop, so maybe we'll pull up there. Say hi, yeah, that's it, I'm Team Mikayla. But whatever Show, love, show love. Say hi, yeah, that's it, I'm team mckayla. But whatever, show, love, show, love. Uh, but let's stick. Stick to the program here we have. Yeah, we're gonna speak on the girl fight um preview. That, honestly, I'm not gonna go too depth with that. We're obviously gonna talk about serrano and katie taylor. That's a big one.
Speaker 2:And julio cesar chavez was in the news again for all the wrong reasons. Jake paul's always in the news, again for all the wrong reasons. Jake Paul's always in the boxing news, apparently. Is he ranked? Is he not ranked? Who knows? The world may never know, and some other things. Beter Biev was a little outspoken lately with what's going on with him and Dimitri Bivol, but we won't touch on all that too much.
Speaker 2:Where do you guys want to start? You want to just start with Serrano, Katie Taylor touch on all that too much. Where do you guys want to start? You want to start with, uh, serrano, katie taylor. Since that's coming up on friday, I'm gonna let you run the show, bro. All right, let's do it. Let's get right into it.
Speaker 2:Amanda serrano versus katie taylor. Three is amongst us, is upon us. You know it's it's not often that you you get like a buzz for female fights like this, like as boxing fans. You know we always, we'll always, be interested in who's the hot female fight in or whatever. But this is like a real fighter buzz for katie taylor and amanda serrano and and I gotta take my hat off to them because that's pretty cool I've been, I've been getting asked a lot throughout the week, like last week oh, are those two chicks fighting? Are those two girls fighting? Isn't that coming up? And I'm like, oh, yeah, that they are like from from non-boxing fans. So it's really good to see that and and it's a testament to both of them and jake pole, yeah and you know what?
Speaker 3:no, sorry, willie go ahead no, you good, go ahead. I was just gonna bring it up. I've been watching, uh like documentaries on netflix lately. Every time you walk, log into netflix, the first thing up there is that fight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's good as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the whole thing. And really, though, those two fights, they're must-see TV. So the third one has to be must-see TV as well. I had one dude come up to me and he was like, oh, is the Italian chick and the Irish chick fighting? I heard that's coming up and I'm like what? He was on the right track, but it's still good to see. I was like, yeah, the Puerto Rican and the Irish chick are fighting, not the Italian, but I know what you mean.
Speaker 1:I think I'm starting to appreciate the MVP promotions man. They are doing their thing. Jake is a fucking genius, bro. If he's not going to make it in boxing marketing, he's going to get boxes somewhere. So that's crazy. He's putting on a whole woman card. Is this? Never have this been done before nah, I think that's the first thing, probably the first one, yeah yeah, this is.
Speaker 2:This is crazy, which I wished. I mean, I nothing against women in boxing and it's awesome, it's legendary, but I kind of want, I wish it was like a real card and they just you can do like a woman double header main event, you know yeah like, but they have so many like young up-and-coming men that need promotion as well yeah, that's why that's what I'm saying. It should be like. It would just be cooler to see that.
Speaker 1:But wait, wasn't the first two like that, though, like yeah, it was the head they was headlining.
Speaker 2:They had a whole bunch of because the last one was a co-main event on that tyson shit yeah, yeah, yep, yep and um yo, and they stole the show like they stole the whole show every time and then, and guess what, the, uh, the judges steal it from amanda, dude I, I still say Amanda is 2-0 against her.
Speaker 1:Me too. No, you're a liar.
Speaker 2:You're a liar.
Speaker 1:You always keep on saying Katie wins.
Speaker 2:Well, I was just about to go into it. You could make an argument for Katie, but you kept on saying she won. You said Amanda did not win when you rewatch it. When I rewatched the second one, it looked like Katie did do enough to make an argument since punch been. Yeah, no, I swear, I swear, I'm yo, I'm team serrano, like I'm, I'm amanda. I'm a huge fan of amanda no, you have.
Speaker 1:You definitely have had her out on the feet.
Speaker 2:It felt like I thought she had her out on the feet on the first fight she did, she did, and that's where I was going to go with with this third fight. Like I don't think it's humanly possible for katie taylor to take those punches a third time, like you know what I mean. Like she's getting rattled by amanda serrano talking about like 500 punches.
Speaker 1:Bro landed I mean I'm thrown. Uh, wait how much she had. She had by like where the go? I had it on here too, about like 500.
Speaker 2:500 landed.
Speaker 1:No, no, it was like 500 thrown or something Like. It's like the percentage is fucking it up. Yeah, yeah, they're saying that she only landed like 18%. Whatever dude Like a factor Yo she's throwing like she's throwing, like the most in a woman.
Speaker 3:Like nobody no woman's throwing more than her like and like like punch said she was busting her shit up last fight and I'm not gonna say she did it on purpose, but it was rather convenient that that headbutt caused the cut when it did, yeah, and like repeatedly did it after that like I don't know yeah, and like now, that's one thing the second fight showed was that, oh wow, because I didn't really notice it as much in the first fight but oh wow, katie does kind of come in like a little rhino, a little Irish rhino with that At this point, I think she'd do it on purpose at this point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I ain't going to lie to you.
Speaker 2:But again, like I don't think, like you said before Punch, she was out on her feet and she was in almost both fights. I think at one point, At a certain point, she was out on her feet and call me crazy, her face looks. Katie Taylor's face looks like a little different now it has to be from these fights Like her face looks actually like almost permanently swollen. I was looking at it and I'm not trying to be like disrespectful, Listen, she's a great boxer, but getting punched in the face by Amanda Serrano as a is not good for your health. It's not good for your health.
Speaker 3:She's kind of old too, isn't she?
Speaker 2:She's old and she's like fight old. She's kind of like Canelo in the sense of she's been in a lot of fights, but I'm saying like she's closer to 40 than 30, is she not? Oh, let me Google it real quick. I'm not sure I think she looks it. Oh, oh, yeah, she's 39, bro, my bad 39, katie taylor's 39, yeah, and amanda's 36 she don't look.
Speaker 1:She don't look that old. They both don't look that old.
Speaker 2:That's crazy and that's crazy that they both throw that much at like 39 years old yeah, so that's um last last fight.
Speaker 1:Uh, katie was 405 and then serena was 579. What punch punches thrown? Yeah, punch a stone, total, it's wild. And it says she, on amanda, only landed three more though.
Speaker 2:That's crazy so amanda brought in jose guzman, who's from new york. Um, oh no, I'm sorry, not jose guzman. The fuck am I saying? Uh, I'm an idiot. Um, whatever she brought, she brought in a trainer from new york I forget his name real like jose guzman's, like a hall of famer. But um to, to make her lighter on her feet and the shoes is not.
Speaker 1:So.
Speaker 2:I say this, I say this every, I say this every surround I say this every serrano feet she's training in boxing shoes, so she trains in boxing shoes and she she fights in clunky jordans. I don't understand it. I get it looks cool.
Speaker 3:It does look great, uh I don't know why she doesn't do what other fighters do, and just go to the jordan, go to shoe surgeons.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, go to shoe surgeon.
Speaker 3:Go to ttsdk, go to aztec customs, be like hey. Make this motherfucking shoe look like a jordan six bro and it doesn't even have to be them.
Speaker 2:There's always little mom and pop shoe people. You know what I mean. Yeah, that's like.
Speaker 1:TSDK and Aztec are. I mean, is she sponsored by Jordan? No, no, no. And she still didn't.
Speaker 3:She might be now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hope so.
Speaker 3:Jordan does sponsor certain fighters. Jordan does sponsor certain fighters. They just don't release shoes. That's the weird thing. They'll put their logo on someone else's shoe.
Speaker 1:It's crazy they need to bring back those Jordans, the ones that fucking Roy had they're clunky too they're fucking heavy as hell. I never wore them.
Speaker 2:Fossil, actually my old co-host when we used to box. He used to wear those all the time. They look cool as hell. I never wore them. Fossil, actually my old co-host when we used to box. He used to wear those all the time.
Speaker 3:They look cool as hell.
Speaker 2:They're thick though they're thick, but Andre Ward had the cool ones. Andre Ward had cool ones, but you know it was Jose Guzman. He's from New York. He's a trainer I'm fucking up names, I'm so bad with names. He's at all the fights he brought her in to camp to. I guess he was saying to get her lighter on her feet. But again, I think the fix for that would be get rid of those shoes. She's training in boxing shoes. I just don't understand it.
Speaker 1:I mean, she don't have a problem. She really don't have a problem. She really don't have a problem. It's the judges, really. Because she's working, she's cutting off the ring. It's nothing that she's not doing. Amanda lands the cleaner, more impactful shots for sure, yeah, when you're watching it and then you see it. I don't understand.
Speaker 2:I don't know what the judges, katie's punches and bunches, though I think especially maybe sitting ringside is what's causing the judges to, because she's throwing a lot of punches.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she probably is throwing more like. So when maybe Katie throwing like two, she's throwing like four or five, I think.
Speaker 2:If it was the biggest gripe I have, though, with this is the two minute rounds. They should make championship fights. It could be a 10 round fight. Just make women's championship fights three-minute rounds. I don't understand why.
Speaker 1:That's why Amanda won it. She's like yo, you promised me that you reneged on that. Like you, soft yeah.
Speaker 3:If either one of those fights had three-minute rounds, she wins by stoppage.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, 100%, 100%. I'm going stoppage this fight too. I keep betting it. I'm not going to stop just because I'm a Manda Serrano fan. And again to get hit by those shots.
Speaker 1:I think she's still the favorite too. That's the crazy part. Yeah, still getting robbed. It's nuts, I don't get it.
Speaker 3:In my opinion, if this third fight has a clear winner, I think that cements them as the second greatest woman boxer of all time.
Speaker 2:The second greatest woman boxer of all time for real. Yeah, that's a good point. I could see that too. It's definitely, for me anyway, the greatest woman's boxing trilogy of all time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I don't even know her. That's the only one I can name. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2:So boom, there you have it, and props to them. I mean, it is again. The buzz around non-boxing fans is there. There's a lot that goes into why. That is, like you said, the Netflix promotions, jake Paul, but when the product delivers, too, that helps yeah.
Speaker 3:I actually like there's only like two women I actually like thoroughly enjoy watching. Like everybody knows, I love Sandy Ryan, but like when it comes to watching her box, like I could take it or leave it. But I love watching clarissa and I love watching amanda, but I, I, I love, I like amanda the most when it comes to like actual, like boxing, I love and that's not a slight on clarissa, it's just because clarissa is so much better than everyone she fights. It's like I kind of know what's gonna happen. But uh, amanda, like I just I actually love watching her fight. Her footwork, her head movement, she's got that old school come forward. She's like if marvin haggler was a chick, just without. Yeah, honestly, she fights like haggler, just orthodox yep, and she puts the pressure on.
Speaker 2:She's always coming forward and it's funny too because she in the ring. You're like damn, she's a mean mofo. But then you talk to her and she's like she's nice, sweet, very caring, emotional, like you know, female. It's good to see that we canceled. It's good to see the undercard too. Alicia Baumgartner is on the undercard. She should win that fight. There's nothing really that pops out at me on the undercard Too. That fight there's nothing really that pops out at me on the undercard Too. Crazy.
Speaker 3:Savannah Marshall's fighting again too, A lot of big, big woman names on the undercard.
Speaker 2:Is Chantel on this card? Yeah, chantel Cameron is on the card, yeah.
Speaker 3:See, that fucking pisses me off. Chantel Cameron got a decision over Katie, but Amanda couldn't. Are you fucking?
Speaker 2:kidding me? Yeah, it's weird, it is weird, didn't me? Yeah, it's weird, it is weird, but it wasn't so much, didn't amanda move up for that though she was like she moved up in weight.
Speaker 3:Are you saying amanda?
Speaker 2:moved up. I mean I'm sorry, uh, katie, didn't katie move up in that fight?
Speaker 3:yeah, but didn't amanda move up to fight katie too, though like yeah, all three times yeah, yeah, but she definitely moved up.
Speaker 2:Whatever I mean again I I don't think katie taylor could withstand the the punishment that many times in a row. It's nothing against her. She's a very great slick boxer. She is 39 years old, the punches keep coming and again it's a tough task.
Speaker 1:You think Clarissa is going to pull up to that woman's?
Speaker 2:fight. I heard, though. I heard she—.
Speaker 1:Because she got like two different fighters that she fought on that card. They're not giving her a ticket.
Speaker 2:They're making her pay for her ticket or something. Yeah, there's like drama with Jake Paul and them and her. But again tomorrow, damn, we might yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's funny, you hear that.
Speaker 2:I read it, she posted something about it. But all right, that's funny as hell. You hear that, I read it, she posted something about it. But alright, let's keep it moving. We're going to try and keep this show under an hour. We have a lot to talk about. I'm excited for that Friday night fight. Unfortunately I have work so I'll have to stream it from work or something. But I would go that's the thing too, though If it was dudes on it, the card too. Though If it was dudes on it, the card I'd go, I'd take off and go. But I'm not going to, I don't know, I'll just fuck it Going forward.
Speaker 1:Go ahead and parlay and go.
Speaker 2:Saturday, saturday what? We started the show with One of the best cards on paper so far of the year. I'd say, right, can we all agree on that? Yes, oh, yeah, yeah, from top to bottom. There's only like two fights in the beginning that I didn't really. I don't know who the hell they are. It's like a debut or something, but then we have. I guess we could start with David Morel versus Imam Kataev. I don't know if I'm saying that right, but I really got to give David Morel a lot of credit here. He's coming off a Benavidez fight, right, yeah, the biggest fight of his life where he did decent. I mean, he got his ass kicked. But for who his opponent was, he did what he could. He did decent.
Speaker 1:Why are my cousins talking about? David won that fight.
Speaker 2:Nah, nah, nah. I said what Nah, nah, nah, your cousin's high, he was bugged out.
Speaker 1:He'd always smoke. I'm like yeah, bugged out.
Speaker 2:Nah, he didn't win that fight, but it's his first fight back and he's taken on a guy close to him in the Ring Magazine rankings. I think they're like two off of one another.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and it's a tough, tough Russian dude who trains in Australia. The dude was as he was coming up, they were saying he could be the next Biterbiev. That's a stretch, but I didn't know much about him. I did some research. I looked at some of his fight highlights and stuff. Yeah, dude, he can fucking throw. He has power in both hands. He goes to the body really, really well. That's kind of how you're going to slow Morel down. I'm not saying he's going to beat Morel, but Morel just taking this fight in a comeback fight on a big stage like this after suffering a loss to me. Kudos to him. I'm here for it.
Speaker 1:Anyone else. I don't know too much about this fight. I don't know who was about to go down. To be honest, I don't know too much about this fight. It was about to go down.
Speaker 3:To be honest, I don't know. I always thought the Benavidez fight was too early for Morel. I thought he was more hype than he was, or what was it they used to say, like more sizzle than steak. You know what?
Speaker 3:I'm saying that's not a shot on his skills at all. Like, I think he's very talented but I think he needs to. He needs to gain experience to make that talent better, like his uh his fight before Benavidez, the one on that, uh, that big LA car that Turkey did with Crawford and Madrimal I can't remember the name of the guy he fought- the guy he fought like.
Speaker 2:He literally looks like the dude you fight in prison on fight night champion. I forget his nickname. One of our friends, flats, knew him. I forget his fucking nickname. He was like that guy was no, he was known in like boxing florida circuits.
Speaker 3:The guy he fought, but it was still a very underwhelming performance. Yeah, we were told. Morel, was you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, it wasn't a bad performance, but it was underwhelming compared to the hype around him. And then he fights Benavidez. He got tired quick because he moved too much and didn't throw enough. He just kind of stood there. He dropped Benavidez, but he also hurt him late in the fight. But still, it's like I don't know.
Speaker 2:You've seen it before with other fighters, he dropped Benavidez.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you don't remember that. I don't think it counted right, no it counted, but then they deducted Morel a point.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, yeah, but he did.
Speaker 3:But the more impressive punch because it was kind of like Benavidez was rolling with it anyway and he was kind of like off balance, kind of like uh, when Bochuk knocked down Virgil he was moving, he was like it was a good shot, but it wasn't like a real knockdown. The better one was when Benavidez rushed him in the corner and and Morel rocked him and like buckled his knees. But my point is sometimes like you take these tough losses too soon and then you take another tough fight coming back and it could just be too much too soon. So it's like but at 175, he doesn't have any knockouts, he only has two fights. One was the underwhelming performance I was talking about and the other was the Benavidez fight.
Speaker 2:That guy's name was a hot rod. Hot rod was his nickname. Oh yeah, yeah, but his last name was like Rod Monavich or some shit, right yeah. Yeah, yeah, his first name is Rod.
Speaker 3:I don't even know how to say, but yeah, fucking try, dude, whatever I can get out of ukraine either way, I'm saying what I'm saying is like we don't, we really don't know what morel is. At 175 he has an underwhelming performance where he didn't score a knockdown or stop the guy and then the benavidez fight. So I don't know like he. He really I don't know. I hope he wins. Really I don't know. I hope he wins. I like Morel and I like Cuban boxers. People know I love Cuban boxers so I want him to win.
Speaker 2:But it's like the dude he's fighting Imam Katev or whatever is a pressure cooker dude. He just comes forward and he throws combos and every combo he throws has a punch to the body. So that's, to me, his key to victory here. But again, combos, and every combo he throws has a punch to the body. So that's it, to me, his key to victory here. But again.
Speaker 3:David morel can dance, he can move. I know you're tired when he does it. Yeah I, I just don't gas against he doesn't move too much.
Speaker 2:I mean benavidez, always like a different kind of pressure and benavidez has speed. Where what? Katev or imam, I don't really know katev, I'm just gonna say where he, where he lacks is that speed he's. He doesn't have a lot of speed on his hands from what I saw, so probably heavy-handed though yeah, very heavy-handed power in both hands.
Speaker 2:I I don't recall from what I what I looked at. I could be wrong. He does get hit. He's very like. He's one of those like he. He kind of just closes up High guard, yeah like high guard and throws like that conventional Russian style. You know what I mean. Yeah, and another thing against him, and I don't mean this in a bad way he trains in Australia, so the sparring and stuff in Australia is not the same as At least at that weight, sure no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the higher the weight you go, the harder it is in.
Speaker 1:Australia. That's the advantage for Durrell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Murrell, he's definitely going to be a high favorite too. But I mean, you know what, Based off what you're saying, Punch, and what I saw, I mean, if you have some extra money in your little gambling box over there it wouldn't hurt to throw some money on Ketev.
Speaker 3:That's why I was just about to say that I was going to ask you if he's a live dog. Yeah, he's definitely a live dog. I'm just saying, because of the things I brought up, I still think Moreau wins and I still think if he's, if he learned from that Benavidez fight and. I think he could knock this guy out, because he does have power and he does have good angles. I just I want to see evolution to his game because, he's young, you know, like we need.
Speaker 3:we need to be seeing evolution, that Benavidez fight Like he wasn't a finished product yet you know.
Speaker 2:but but this is what I mean. Like this fight, this guy is, like you said, as a live dog. I don't think he's got to just win. The evolution versus this guy is going to be tough, so it's not a tune-up. To me, this is not a tune-up, this is like a contender battle.
Speaker 3:And you know what, props to Turkey too, because as a Cuban boxing fan, I would always complain like Cuban boxers, they never get big fights until they're too old. And if they get them, they get robbed, like Lara versus Canelo or Williams. I'm glad they're starting to get bigger fights when they're younger, so I'm happy for the dude For real.
Speaker 2:And it's just a great fucking card dude, because the next topic and the next fight it's. Alberto Playo versus Subrio Matias for WBC Junior Welter 140 matchupup and this fight on paper and it's crazy to me too it's it's two kind of different styles. Uh, playo is a massive 140 pounder. He's, he's just big, he's a big ass dude.
Speaker 3:But no, yeah, no, and he doesn't, he, he, he doesn't throw combos like he throws two punch combos and he boxes, he like which is weird for a dominican, because dominicans are usually come forward he, he boxes and if you look in in his last fight, uh verse, what's his face?
Speaker 2:the guy that martin yeah, martin, martin was fucking was kind of looked like a really weak version of Matias, because the way he would go to the body, martin was having success. To the body, just, martin has no power, so Pueyo would just button up and throw one-twos or like a looping hook while Martin was at the body and would crack him. I feel like if Matias does that, it's going to be a whole different story for Pueyo. But then again, this is why this fight's so good. Matias is a kind of I don't want to say suspect chin, but he's been clipped and hurt before and and this is interesting to me- yeah, he doesn't have the best defense, but he, he hits hard, he hits a lot but a lot of people thought poyo lost that last fight I did.
Speaker 2:I was one of them. Remember you remember that fight we watched at Diamante's? Yeah, yeah, I thought he did too. That was a tough fight. Yeah, if Pueyo is the weakest belt holder at 140, he's definitely out of all the champions, which is crazy to say, because he beat another belt holder at 140.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Two bites ago, matias had really been looking weak too. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2:They should rematch. You're talking about what's his face? Russell, they all have eight names together. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Russell, antoine Antonio.
Speaker 3:You wanna know what's crazy. You know who he was supposed to defend his title against, like two years ago. Russell, no, fucking Puello. Who? Who? Because he, like this, is his second time being a champion, he won a vacant title against Batyar Akhmedov oh yeah, that's a tough guy too, though Exactly it's a good win. Ahmedov that's a tough guy too, though Exactly it's a good win. But then he got stripped of his title like a month before his fight, because of some PED shit. He was supposed to defend his belt against Rowley, and then that's when Rowley got that sketch knockout against old-ass Barroso.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, I remember all that.
Speaker 1:For real that sketch knockout.
Speaker 3:That was the fakest knockout ever yeah, right, but I'm but like it's crazy that pollo like roly was gonna. If roly fought pollo you'd have got yeah, I think roly's head would yeah, like, but I don't know. Pollo has a good resume, he he beat Akhmedov. He beat Russell, he beat quote-unquote beat Martin but.
Speaker 2:I will say, like Martin I didn't know this In the Tio fight he broke his nose in the first round and, like, still went the distance and did fairly well. A lot of people say Martin beat Tio, so he is tough, though Like Martin isn't like a nobody to not knock him out and stuff. So poyo might do something to matias, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't think so. I don't think he's gonna. I don't think he's gonna hurt him.
Speaker 3:He's gonna box the shit out of him I don't think, yeah, but matias got outboxed by paro yeah exactly that's what I'm saying this card is.
Speaker 1:This card is literally. I don't know what matias is gonna do if he can't, if he can't touch him, if he don't catch him, if he don't stand still, if he keep on moving.
Speaker 2:He's going to touch him.
Speaker 1:I'm saying if he's going to move around, if he move around, keep on moving, he'd be all right.
Speaker 2:Matias, if Pueyo does that shit where he goes in the corner and buttons up and tries to land a huge hook, he can't do that here. Matias is going to fucking ignite him.
Speaker 1:He can't do that here.
Speaker 2:Because Matias is kind of like Benavidez with that, With the speed and power and that style of those six-punch combinations. His footwork is dog shit though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he just walks in.
Speaker 1:He walks in like a square box. He just walks up to you, squared as hell.
Speaker 3:He fought that Kazik dude on the Boo Boo Benavidez card. He was getting lit up for the first two rounds. That guy gassed out after two rounds. But then that guy, that guy gassed out after like two rounds matthias or the other guy, that's my ergoshev uh, oh yeah, ergoshev yeah, matthias does not have a good resume no he really doesn't he like? Everybody gave him. They're like, oh, he fucking killed that guy RIP and then knocked all these people out. But it's like, who is he knocking out?
Speaker 2:though that's the thing he made. So many people quit in a row, though I think he killed more than one Well he has good volume.
Speaker 3:I don't think Pueyo knocks him out. But I agree with Willie I definitely think Pueyo could outbox the shit out of him.
Speaker 1:He's out. He's definitely going to outbox him.
Speaker 2:I just think, from what I saw, from the, what's it called? Not Matias, why can't I say his fucking name? The dude that he fought last Pueyo fought last Martin. From what I saw, like the way Martin fought in that fight and like the, the way he was landing to the body and having success just no zip on it. I feel like that's, if matias does that and fights like that, it's all wrong for poyo yeah, but matias can't box like marty martin's not legitimately good boxer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like a like a. Um statistically good boxer like he's got a.
Speaker 3:He's got better ring IQ, he's got better movement and is Matias in the Southpaw, is he? Yeah, he is. Oh, okay, because Martinez too right.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh. So I just think Matias is he's just too one-dimensional right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He hasn't been looking good. I don't think he can. I don't know if he's just too one-dimensional right now. He hasn't been looking good. I don't think he can. I don't know if he's going to be able to catch him. Fun to watch but, yeah he's great to watch, but he's not fighting nobody. He's not going to. A boxer is going to outbox him.
Speaker 3:And he doesn't have that wilder one-punch knockout. No, he's combinations.
Speaker 1:And if you're not sitting there, if you're not going to sit there for it, then you're not going to. You can beat him If you're not going to sit there. If you sit there, you're going to get hit with something.
Speaker 3:That's why I was surprised Paro beat him, because I thought Paro was tailor-made for him.
Speaker 2:Subriel is not a southpaw.
Speaker 1:I fucked up confused because, like we said, he just walks. I don't know what he is fucking paro. Paro was boxing, though that day he was boxing.
Speaker 3:He was moving, he was. That's what I'm saying. Like if paro could outbox him, well, definitely can't. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Hit and move. Hit and move he was. We shall see. We shall see. Uh, I don't think he's gonna get no knockout. He that. I think he's gonna need a knockout to win.
Speaker 2:I could have sworn matthias was a southpaw bro, and that that goes off to like when he yeah same, he doesn't have, he doesn't have a stance, he just walks that's what I said. He come in there like a square he's kind of like a switch hitter, because he just walks in, he's, he's like a.
Speaker 1:He's like um benavidez. Yeah, he's like, just like david.
Speaker 3:David walks up straight too, yep he's fun to watch, though I just he's great to watch, he's been knocked down.
Speaker 2:He has lost it. This is another great fight.
Speaker 1:That's a great fight. I say it's a 60-40 fight Fabian Puello. I think I'm taking the distance I'm going with Matias Stoppage.
Speaker 2:I've never seen him live.
Speaker 1:I think it's two distance fights to me right now. The guys that he did stop though.
Speaker 3:How big is the ring?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, how big is the ring? Oh yeah, Well, I don't know. I thought I did. I don't know I can. I need somebody.
Speaker 1:And it's outside right.
Speaker 2:You said yeah, and maybe you could help. It's a retractable roof, but maybe you could help.
Speaker 1:It's crazy there. I ain't gonna lie this atmosphere, I gotta crazy there I go a lot of this atmosphere well, I'm, I gotta, I gotta, hit a bet.
Speaker 2:I gotta go get those ray-ban glasses. I'm going. Oh, the video ones, yeah, I, I have to. Uh, there needs to be something where you could find the the size of the ring, because that's been as a gambling man I could never find the size of the ring until you show up yeah, I, I that's just huge because the smaller the ring, the better it is for matthias.
Speaker 2:Yeah, way better, I'm guessing it's huge because the smaller the ring, the better it is for Matthias, yeah, Way better. I'm guessing it's a small ring because that's what you know. Turkey wanted Shakur for first in. But now, with this, what we're going to talk about right now, this retractable ring, shit, I don't. I don't know what's going on. I hope he's just saying that let's just get right into it.
Speaker 3:There's no way that's real you real you can't fight with something like that.
Speaker 2:And I will say Turk's been getting better, can we just get into that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's just get into it Shakur.
Speaker 2:Stevenson vs William Zepeda, WBC World Light title at 135 pounds. You know this is make or break for Shakur.
Speaker 1:In a sense the pressure's on him I hate to say this is punch man's right here, yeah, yeah, I hate to say this is Punch Man's right here, yeah yeah, and listen, I'm.
Speaker 3:I'm not even sexual, I don't even care.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and this is like this fight is. Props to him for taking this fight too. This is still a tough fight, but there's a lot like Shakur I know he doesn't care. I feel like there's a lot of pressure on him because, say, he does win right and he wins in the way he always wins, he's still going to get a lot of hate. What, oh you cut?
Speaker 3:out sorry.
Speaker 2:I said if he wins the way he always wins, right, which is scoring points, and he has had issues, you know he broke his hand or whatever.
Speaker 3:He hurt his shoulder and he broke his hand against De Los Santos, sorry.
Speaker 2:No, you're good, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I like it.
Speaker 1:He's about to go in.
Speaker 2:Shakur sexual. This is like payback, because when I talk about TO, I'm always like I got all the stats and everything in my head off the rip, but nah. So this fight though if he beats William Zepeda, you can't really say anything anymore, even if he does beat him in his own style is what I was going to get to. I was going to get to, I was going to change it. He still beat William Zepeda, who throws 100 punches around. You know what I mean. You know what.
Speaker 3:The Tank and Devin fans are already shitting on it saying oh who is Zepeda? Beat Zepeda's a nobody, they're already doing it. They already started it once the fight got fucking announced. They're supposed to fight Frank Martin can announce and you're looking at one thing you're supposed to fight frank martin he got he got signed to fight frank martin in november of 2023 and they're like, oh, he's a fucking prospect, he ain't beat nobody.
Speaker 1:And then take the option out and they're like, damn yeah were you about to say that really no, I ain't gotta say nothing, man I just I'm upset. My guy is now in the best terms right now. I can't talk.
Speaker 2:Who's?
Speaker 1:your guy.
Speaker 2:Tank.
Speaker 1:He's not on the best terms right now. He got something to prove, yeah yeah. I can't even talk to him after this fight. I can't talk about him.
Speaker 2:But so Zepeda, though, has been more active lately, so that's in Zepeda, though has been more active lately, so that's in Zepeda's favor. The only thing I hate now, like I was all about this fight, like this is going to be a cool stylistic matchup, two of the total opposite styles. A ring general, literally, William Zepeda, a brute puncher the only way Shakur loses this fight to me and it really, really, really, really, really has a good, good chance of happening as if he breaks his hand on that hard mexican head or that is go ahead, go ahead and like, and, and now I think this is what you're about to say or the this shrinking ring thing, or whatever the fuck is going on is is like a gimmick or some carnival shit.
Speaker 1:So you're saying Turk wanted the ring to be small for Shakur? Fight His man, shakur Lately.
Speaker 2:Turk's been posting stuff about this Tom and Jerry and this weird things, and then how he wanted the ring small and I guess it wasn't the smallest ring. And then now he said there's going to be a shrinking ring. But let me just say one thing real quick Before Turk said said I didn't know what time this fight was until we got the tickets. Because I was like I thought this fight was going to be during the day because Turk was saying that. But he turns out he was just coming at Oscar de la Hoya. He was like oh, I'm going to eat breakfast and go to the fight with a full belly of pancakes or something like that. What time is it? Uh, it's like gates open at 5.30 pm Eastern time. So he is playing the media a little bit now, which is kind of cool to see. He's becoming like a regular promoter. I guess Good, but I hope I don't know what to believe. I hope this shrinking ring shit is fake because, yeah, I don't how do you sign a contract for that?
Speaker 3:How does a sanctioning body approve that?
Speaker 2:And that's where I was going to go. If it does. If that is true, then the belts. It's not for belts.
Speaker 1:Can somebody explain it to me?
Speaker 3:Like what is a shirt and a ring? Yeah, I don't even understand the mechanics of it.
Speaker 1:And I will say it's going to be like the basketball court that Dave and Buster's in and move back and forth on you.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying, like, when are you going to do it between rounds? Where the fuck does his corner go? The only thing, the only thing I could I could see that that could happen is maybe it's a bigger ring for all the fights before and after, and then they come in real quick and and fix, adjust the small ring. You know what I mean. Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 3:You can't shrink a ring round by round, like that he's got a lot of money.
Speaker 2:The ring is in the contract. Yeah, yeah, it has to be. He's just bluffing or something. I hope, because I don't. I wanted, I wanted just a regular as a boxing fan. We're going.
Speaker 3:I just want a regular great card fight like bullshit bro and like by the way, he has to fight the seventh round blindfolded, like what yeah, yeah, like, oh, and now we're gonna have a mechanical bull.
Speaker 2:It's like celebrity death match, whoever has the most punches gets a gun like what another thing is too like. New York State Athletic Commission Is pretty strict. They don't allow the bare knuckle fighting here, so I can't see them approving that.
Speaker 3:They just approved UFC, like 9 years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's new. That's pretty new. New York City is pretty new. Everything, bro. People could have watched a fight In New York City. People could have watched it from the street when I was going to go with it. Though Puma watch the fight, like in new york city, people could watch it for the street where I was gonna go with it though, puma sorry, I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead, just talk it's fine.
Speaker 3:Um, it wasn't the, it wasn't the ring shit. It was like when sugar ray leonard fought duran the first time, like yeah, he got coaxed into like fighting toe-to-toe rather than boxing. But I think if Shakur goes out there trying to prove he can fight more than he can box, it can cost him. Yeah, it can cost him. Because this dude is on record for saying he almost went down from a body shot from.
Speaker 3:Valdez, he wanted to throw up in his corner. Yeah, zepeda's a really good body puncher. He knocked out Cabrera when Pitbull Cruz couldn't even knock that dude out.
Speaker 1:He might as well just do the Ryan Garcia Philly shell.
Speaker 3:API Prison shell bro.
Speaker 1:Give Zepeda his old booty. Let me ask you something.
Speaker 2:Who do you think and I know you're obviously going to be a little biased, but you're a Shakur fan but who do you think has more power? And I don't mean this in a weird way, but Farmer or Shakur?
Speaker 3:I would say Zepeda, because I don't think Shakur has concussive power, I think Zepeda has power.
Speaker 2:I said Farmer.
Speaker 3:Farmer Tevin of power? I think no, no, I said, I said farmer, farmer tevin farmer, or shakur shakur, shakur, yeah, oh, look at the numbers speak for it all. Farmer has less knockouts at lower weights, bro, come on, yeah, I'm like, farmer is faster. Farmer might be faster, but I don't think he's as accurate. I don't think he's as technical. Power might be even, but per the numbers I think he has less power.
Speaker 1:I think Shakur's power comes from the counters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1:The quick reflexes.
Speaker 3:That's where Farmer comes from.
Speaker 2:I think Farmer might be stronger than Shakur. Shakur is just so much cleaner. His punches are just so much cleaner, like, and he doesn't really do philly, philly, shelly his whole body's into his punches again, though. Uh, the, the big, the big. Well, now there's two, two question marks for me. With this fucking ring thing and shakur's hands, he's. He's posted subliminal messages. I remember you sent me the thing with like he was looking for a hand therapist not too long ago or something like yeah, a hand massage therapist, yeah, and. And shakur, the. We know in boxing as boxing fans, once your hands go, man, it's really hard to keep that money, like floyd did.
Speaker 1:He was getting massages every day in his hands.
Speaker 2:He said, yep, I don't know our cortisone shots though they might't know, our cortisone shots, though they might not even be allowed, because now with how heavy testing and stuff is, yeah, I mean people walk around with fucking steel in their hands and shit Like, wow, dude, you might as well be able to take some.
Speaker 2:If this is a regular fight, a lot of questions will be answered. It's a big if now, with this new Apple card, I hope it's just a promotional stunt. If it is a promotional stunt, good on turk he's a real promoter now, just like boxing always turns people into like regular, like it's like a, a cesspool, like you want to be different, and then it just turns you into like a sheisty promoter, like it's funny, because look at turk, he's like now a she steep promoter.
Speaker 1:Well, they bring it out of you like Oscar, somebody like Oscar, he just don't give no fucks. They just start bringing it out of you, bro again, triller tried doing.
Speaker 3:Triller was horrible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and didn't Triller like turn into yo to me and I'm going to go off on a tangent quick, and I'm going to make it quick because again, how much it. We've been on for 45 minutes already. Time flies when you're having fun and we're going to try and keep it just over an hour, if anything. So Triller, to me, is kind of what ruined TO. In a sense. They fucked TO up because they won the purse bid for fucking the Yeaho Cambosis.
Speaker 2:Yeah, teo Cambosis, and then COVID happened, and then Teo wasn't fighting. It was just a whole smorgasbord of bullshit. But that's a side note. Yeah, shakur, let's give our final picks of how we think this fight ends if it's a normal fight, if they change the ring or whatever, and a retractable bull comes in or whatever.
Speaker 3:I got Shakur winning like 118-110. Either way, shakur winning 118-110.
Speaker 2:What do you got, Willie?
Speaker 1:Going a distance, shakur by a point.
Speaker 2:I feel the same. The only way to me and I'm harping on this the only way Shakur loses this fight to me is if his hands break, which is probably like a 50-50 shot. I hope his hands stay, which is probably like a 50-50 shot. I hope his hands stay healthy, because Zepeda is a dog. He's coming, he's going to muck it up.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying, if Farmer did his thing against Zepeda, I know Shakur is just going to fucking.
Speaker 2:Farmer did his thing, but Zepeda still was fucking coming like a bull.
Speaker 3:Also here's. I'm sorry dude, as much as I love Tevin Farmer, and we all love Tevin Farmer, he isn't shit compared to Zepeda.
Speaker 1:No, no, no no, not at all, but the hands come into play here.
Speaker 2:The hands are a big thing here for me.
Speaker 3:I get what you're saying, but that's also a hypothetical right, like all things considered. Like shakur, stevenson, in my opinion, is one of at worst, the top five worst boxers, just boxers on the planet best you mean yeah, sorry at worst, he probably already hates me because I'm white shakur has.
Speaker 2:He has matured. I I watched some interviews of him recently. He's matured I I give fighters a bad rap as they're coming up and I see what they. You know some are a little too mature.
Speaker 1:You know what I like about Chico, though what you would say something. Now I guess you would say something about him. He'd still do an interview with you. And then he would oppress you right there I saw that he did the interview with dude, your favorite guy. That guy is what's his?
Speaker 2:name Showbiz.
Speaker 3:Motherfuckers do not like showbiz.
Speaker 2:Dude, and I'm not hating like I'm jealous, it's the haircut, I think. Nah, dude, he's a little zesty.
Speaker 3:He's a little funny, I think he's funny.
Speaker 2:Oh, he's very fake. He's a cornball. If I don't know something, I'm going to admit it. If Willie or you like, I'm like, oh my bad, I didn't know, like I don't care, it's a fucking, and like he does this weird coffee. What is it? Two creams, two sugars thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know what that means. And yeah, yeah, Whoa shit, what the?
Speaker 2:fuck, I don't know, I can't hate. The guy has a following. He created a following.
Speaker 1:He created. No, you got to respect that. Well, he has good takes he has takes on fights.
Speaker 3:I like him, but I think he's corny at the same time.
Speaker 2:Also Like he's just throwing shit at the wall and if it sticks, that's the life of being a content creator.
Speaker 1:Yeah, shakur pressed him about that. He was like yo you're saying something About saying something about me, and you're following and starting to believe. Whatever you're saying, you're probably not even saying the right thing. He's like yo. You gotta stop. Be mindful of what you're saying.
Speaker 2:Which is true.
Speaker 3:And I agree with Shakur, what he did at Coppinger was funnier.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when he's like nah.
Speaker 3:You're the worst interviewer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was funny, but yo, I agree with Shakur and what he's saying. At the end of the day, he's a human, shakur's a human, but at that stage and I got to back the content creators and us, the people with opinion you're basically a sports team, you know what I mean. Yeah, like so you're a sole boxer, yes, but you're a sports team in a sense, and like we're gonna criticize, we're gonna talk shit, just like we're gonna go to the bar. We're all gonna say shit, if, if, you, you know what I mean, so I understand real quick, real quick, just a real quick tangent.
Speaker 3:because you're a football fan, like I am, and you're a New York Jets fan, I am a Jacksonville Jaguars fan. So you know how it feels to be a fan of a shitty team.
Speaker 1:He's a Cowboy fan, this asshole. I mean, my team's not really shitty. We just did a good job. What are you?
Speaker 2:talking about they lost the playoff game because they put ezekiel elliott at center all right, wait, just say what you're gonna say, because I'm trying to just keep it rolling what I'm saying is like okay, for example, I'm saying like we don't lose as much as y'all two teams true, we do have a more recent playoff win though.
Speaker 3:Either way, I'm just saying I'm just saying, like when you that play that Mike McCarthy, did you remember when you guys lost to the 49ers? Because Dak. Prescott ran a draw with no time left, weren't you like what the? Fuck are you doing bro? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:You used to this, we used to this pain.
Speaker 2:But I see what you're saying in relation, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Like you're still a fan, but you can still be like, what are you doing? And we're going to stay. I fought De Los Santos. I was like bro, what this sucks? This fucking sucks. That doesn't mean I hate Shakur. That doesn't mean I think Shakur sucks, no, but that means when Caleb Plant, who's one of my favorite fighters of all time, just fought Resendez, I was like bro, what the fuck are you doing? You're allowed to do that, but I think, because you're all alone in the ring, the criticism you get is way more intimate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they take it really, really to heart, which I could understand. But also they all want to be superstars, right, and this is going to go into our next take wants to be this superstar, rock star, right? That comes with this criticism, you know what I mean. And actually, one day, talking to tiafimo lopez, I said to him I was like, oh, keep your head up, man, blah, blah, blah, someone, something happened or whatever. And he wrote back he goes ah, it's all good, it comes with being the superstar. I was like, all right, and you know what, I gotta give my guy Tio credit in a sense.
Speaker 3:No, that's very good self-awareness.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he gets a lot of hate for actions that he caused himself, but he rolls with it. He fucking rolls with that shit, and he doesn't change.
Speaker 1:That's what times we in, though. You have to go with whatever goes down. You have to just roll with it. If they paint a picture, be that person like angel reese. They want to pay the bad girl. She's a bad girl. She's a bad guy. She just keep on going with it. Okay, just keep on going with it it works.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying I hate the fans because there's the fan. There was the shaker fans defending that that de la santos fight. Like that was perfect boxing. It's hit or not be hit same guys that did it to devin after his recent fight. It's like there's no way you enjoyed that fight, like you can't tell me. It's like oh, it's just because you don't know boxing. I know boxing. I've watched it since I was four years old. I turned 33 in three weeks so that's another.
Speaker 2:That's another thing I was going to say too a lot of times, as, like a podcast and whatever content, whatever the fuck it's called content creators, whatever this is, this is just three boxing fans talking in a bar scene about boxing, drinking being stupid. But people get like, oh, you don't know shit about boxing. I got into it with some guy on the internet, some random, remember that guy? And he's like oh yeah, I've seen you shadow box. You don't know shit about boxing.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, bro, when you watch something enough, right, not that we're experts, but we watch something so much and we study it and we do research I sit back, I have a beer, I look at stuff, I look at what's going on, I look at punch counts Like you look at not that we're experts, but we know a little something. You know what I mean? Like we know. It's just yeah, I hate that. Like you don't have to be a fighter to know everything. Yes, fighters know the ins and outs and I ultimate respect them. That's why we get so excited when we interview them. It's like we get a whole different. They're the experts.
Speaker 1:But we don't know nothing but people. This is why I like this podcast, because even when we on there, we are fans first, so we have opinions like fans if they. If you go watch a pro boxer doing a podcast, they're gonna have like critiques and they're gonna have, they're gonna like, they're gonna be, they're gonna modern day self. They're not just gonna sit there like and give you the real fan opinions this is real fandom.
Speaker 2:That's it. That's all I wanted to say. Again, shakur is maturing. He did say that to whatever that guy I forget his name all the time Coppinger no, not Coppinger. Showbiz Props to Showbiz. I'm hating, in a sense of just his. I don't agree with a lot of the stuff he says no, you're not hating on his success, you're hating no, no, no, do, yeah, do whatever you can to get, get your success.
Speaker 3:He just doesn't do it for me. I mean you gotta fuck with him. You don't have to wish failure on him, but I just think he's and I I and people think I'm corny.
Speaker 2:I think he's very corny, that's all that's not. It wasn't zesty. I think he's very corny, that's all, that's the word. It wasn't zesty, I think he's very corny, but whatever, he's tough too. Yeah, and you know what I got? To give him props, because a lot of podcasts and content creator people they make it because they have a pro or they have like a connect Like he didn't. He did it by himself, so props to him for that. But enough about him. On to the next, though. Also, one of the problems I have with this next fight we're going to talk about is some people think they're a little bigger than they are, and I am backing them. It's going to be Edgar Berlenga versus Hamza Shiraz, the co-main event. Which fight is first?
Speaker 3:The.
Speaker 2:Shakur fight. The Shakur fight's first.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're making a big deal. Shakur is crying. I should have been the main event.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just fight, yeah that's that bothered me about shakur. I get where he's coming from and I agree, but I also think don't make a big deal about it, you're still making another do pay-per-view and, and he does kind of have a little bit of like this isn't edgar versus hamza, isn't for a belt, right?
Speaker 2:He is the bigger name. There's no belts, right he is the bigger name man.
Speaker 1:No, it's Eliminator, that's crazy. So how? That don't make no sense. That don't make no sense. We talking about Eliminator fight, and then we had the championship fight before that.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, there's two championship fights before it before Two, shiraz is Turk's guy.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that is corny. Stop pushing that guy on us. Turk, we don't want to see him.
Speaker 3:He's trying to make him a star, so that way, when Canelo vacates his titles, when he retires, because Canelo, let's be honest, how many fights does Canelo have left? I bet it's less than five.
Speaker 1:I honestly bet it's less than five.
Speaker 2:I'd say less than three. I'd say less than three.
Speaker 1:I'd say he's going to fight Crawford, probably two times, three times, yeah, and then there'll be.
Speaker 2:He's going to fight Crawford, for sure and then there's going to be like one or two dudes that we never heard of. He's going to collect as much money as he can and get the fuck out of it. He might fight.
Speaker 1:Bud two or three times, though? I don't think so. It's going to be the biggest fight.
Speaker 3:It depends, if he knocks Bud out in round five, he doesn't fight him again. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It all depends how that fight goes I don't see Bud being like Charlo.
Speaker 2:I don't think Bud's going to stay at that weight either. I think Bud's done too soon. He's fighting.
Speaker 3:Canelo for the bag. He's old and he's almost 40.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's old and he's not.
Speaker 3:That's exactly my point. Turkey is making his boy a star in the wedding that way, when these belts become available and these guys aren't there, his dude's at the top. That's really what he wants to hope happens.
Speaker 1:But guess what, this is not the right fight for that. This might go terribly wrong for you, my boy.
Speaker 3:Your whole plan might not go as planned it could be right, though, Because Berlanga technically Bro he's not deficient and he doesn't.
Speaker 2:Berlanga does not do well versus slicker boxers. You know what I mean. Like he doesn't.
Speaker 1:But if you really watch Berlanga he's kind of slick himself and he got powers though Kind of Kind of.
Speaker 3:But, dude, he got outboxed by Steve, fucking Rose bro.
Speaker 2:Bad, and this fight too is like two inflated dudes, like two guys that are a little overrated and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way. I'm backing my guy Edgar it's a New York guy versus Hamza Shiraz, an English fuck sort of and whatever, but I can see Edgar just taking the loss for the money.
Speaker 2:So I was going to, you just took the words out of my mouth. I'm like he's saying King of New York, shit, and he's repping New York and like that gets me in, you got me in. I like the Terror squad yeah. I like the state battles right, but don't fuck it up, bro. Like you got a lot of pressure Like don't let new york down.
Speaker 1:Like yeah, don't let new york down he better not do what he did with canelo, but he better not I do want to say canelo, though yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So he's not gonna be intimidated, he's not gonna be intimidated I will say too, like that, not, edgar had a little bit of a point when he got knocked down by canelo. It wasn't, he wasn't hurt. You know, he, edgar, really wasn't hurt by canelo, like at all. He got knocked down and right away he was like motherfucker, this guy got me. He got up and kept dogging.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to tell you that I ain't gonna lie. I rewatched that fight with him and Canelo. I'm like I see what he can really do. He can do it more. He can do a lot more. His one-two was nice. I'm like okay he, he could do a lot more. He was. His one two was nice. I'm like okay he was. He was rolling. I'm like yo, he's pretty, he's pretty slick.
Speaker 2:He's got to go to the body on Shiraz though he's got to. He's got to really, really hurt the body.
Speaker 1:And does he go to the?
Speaker 2:body ever Not, not that. When go Hamza's taller, though right, he definitely appears to be taller.
Speaker 3:Well, he's taller than Adamas, I don't know. Is he taller?
Speaker 2:than Edgar. Let me see right now. I'm assuming because he looks so tall. I don't think he's like linkier though 6'3", hamza's 6'3", I think Edgar's like 6'.
Speaker 1:Edgar was type 12. When we seen him in person, I ain't gonna lie, he was like a good six.
Speaker 3:Six one, six one. I don't call you out, go ahead. But you gave Morrell props for fighting Benavidez and then fighting fucking I don't know, some random gulag prison guard motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Shiraz just fought a. His first fight at 168 is Berlanga.
Speaker 2:Call me out all you want, because I wrote that down. I said I got to give Shiraz props too. He's fighting Berlanga, and Berlanga can't say the same, because he fought me. Yeah, he fought the dude who fixed my fucking tires last week he fought the dude I see at 7-Eleven asking me for a dollar. No joke.
Speaker 3:I think that guy just got out of prison. He did, I'm not even joking, that guy had just gotten out of prison.
Speaker 1:Oh, that might be the dude from the bar. Yeah, yeah, fucking.
Speaker 2:So props to that dude, actually, because that dude is the real one Dude that's another reality show Scared straight and then fight Berlanga.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you have to do 30 days in prison and then fight Edgar Berlanga, but dude with Shiraz isn't really?
Speaker 2:yes, he did very, he went the distance with Adams.
Speaker 3:He lost to Adams, he lost that fight, he lost.
Speaker 1:I think he lost too.
Speaker 2:I think he lost too I think he lost too.
Speaker 1:I can't.
Speaker 2:I will say though I will say, though, like Berlanga to me, his key to victory here for me is his fucking. He does have power, so he needs to counter and hit him with a shot cleanly.
Speaker 1:No how, how is this even happening? How is this shit even happening? Because he literally got a gifted draw and then they don't fight again and then, dude, just keep his title, Like yo, they just gave the guy a draw when he actually won the fight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he moved up.
Speaker 1:Because if it's a draw. The champion keeps their belt. Yeah, no, I understand that, but I'm saying you move up, why?
Speaker 3:I think they said he was getting drained Because if you rewatchwatch the adamus fight and mind you, I'm a huge adamus fan, like I got adamus signed to thanks for playing, so I'm a really big adamus fan, he's one of my favorite fighters. But in the early part of that fight, like like the first four or five rounds, shiraz was winning. He was controlling him with the jab and the straight left because he's a southpaw. But after that, like Adamas took full control but he got, like Shiraz got tired. So they're saying the weight cut drained him. Yeah, I don't know how true that is, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think Turk just realized oh, Shiraz, really isn't all that.
Speaker 3:Let me see what we could do here. Berlanga is a big, super middleweight. He's not Benavidez big or Zerto big when Zerto fought at the weight class, but he's thick for the weight class.
Speaker 1:I hope he knocked this guy out.
Speaker 3:I'm not even kidding, I've never rooted for Berlanga. I'm rooting for him in this fight.
Speaker 2:I hope he knocked him out. He's selling a lot of tickets, he's selling the majority of the tickets for this fight and if he does knock him out, bro, that place is going to erupt.
Speaker 1:That place is going to erupt. I hope he knocks him out.
Speaker 2:He also did. I guess he is doing the right thing. We get a little wrapped up in the social media videos and stuff. I'm like, oh, I hope he's just not doing this for money, because it seems like that it do be seeming like that he looks like the type he's New York. He's training, though he's training in Colorado, so he's up there. I ain't going to lie New York people, or what is it Big Bear? Is it Big Bear California Big Bear or Colorado?
Speaker 3:but there's a big gym in Colorado. That's where. Bud trains for his camps.
Speaker 2:He's at one of those and it's like the same thing Way north low air quality or pressure, whatever the fuck it is.
Speaker 3:High altitude and shit.
Speaker 2:And he got out of New York to train, which is good for a guy like him.
Speaker 1:Yeah because, if you go to New York, it's crazy.
Speaker 3:He also dude. He lost most of the Canelo fight but he was trying to win. I don't care what anybody says, I don't like him. Oh yeah, a hundred percent.
Speaker 1:I liked him after that.
Speaker 2:I re-watched the fight.
Speaker 1:I literally just re-watched the fight and he's like yo, I'm like yo, berlanga, he got something.
Speaker 2:Bro, the fight to make, though, you just got to put it together. The fight to make, though, he's got to put it together. If Berlanga does lose this fight, right Say he does lose this fight. The fight to make is Caleb versus Berlanga. That's a huge money fight right there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I don't think PBC loans him out. No, pbc's going to milk Plant for everything they got, and I think. Plant had a rematch clause for that last fight.
Speaker 3:But, I'll throw this at you. I'll throw this at you Even if Berlingo wins, because if Berlingo wins, he's not going to get another fight against Canelo. Canelo is not going to fight him again. Boo-boo, who's that? Who's that guy, dude? He's about to be either 38 or 39 years old. It's the perfect time. He's not great at super middleweight. Get the boo-boo fight, or this will be really disgusting. If they do this, fucking, bring Billy Joe Saunders back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I could see that too. Billy Joe's been chirping lately. He's like I had a meeting with some guy in England. Listen back to this fight, though. Let's just try and stay on this, I'm sorry. No, no, it's all good. We all chop it up, so we go all crazy. Shiraz, what do you think I'm rooting? I'm putting Berlenga knockout as my bet, because I'm just going to root for him and just piss money away. What's your prediction, willie, of how this fight ends?
Speaker 1:What do you think? I don't want Shiraz to win at all. I don't give a fuck what it is. I hope he knocks him out. I hope Berlinga knocks him out. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3:I think Berlinga wins the decision. Either way, willie, I really do Berlinga decision.
Speaker 2:If he doesn't drop him, it's gonna be hard for him.
Speaker 1:That's probably a lot of plus money right there.
Speaker 2:Another thing too. I said in the last show I don't think Shiraz has dealt with this much animosity towards him. New York fans are coming at that guy. They're coming at him.
Speaker 3:Even then, though, outside of his one-two from the southpaw, what does he have?
Speaker 2:Just the length and the jab.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he has that length, he don't have no power. Yeah, he don't have no power.
Speaker 3:His jab has power. Yeah, he don't have no power, his jab has power. I'm sorry, but then again, everything I say he has he had at 160. This is his first fight at 168.
Speaker 1:Turk man. He just messed it all up for that guy when you started cheating and shit.
Speaker 3:I'm good Dude, that bro after that, bro, that like that made me not like turkey for like because the whole thing was you're fixing the corruption in the muck, that we have the sport, but as soon as a popular fucking muslim guy gets in there, you become the most corrupt fuck there is like I said like, like I said, he literally became the promoter he swore not to be.
Speaker 2:It's like a swamp. Boxing is a fucking swamp.
Speaker 3:Do you think New York City's next mayor is going to be at this fight, probably sitting right next to us?
Speaker 1:I don't hope he's sitting next to Eric.
Speaker 2:Adams Alright, anyway, this fucking guy went live. You idiot Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3:I don't even live there. I live in Idaho.
Speaker 2:I was just kidding, but speaking of swamps and boxing and boxing's weird shit and shooting people and everything you just said, right, Wait what? Julio Cesar Chavez Jr man?
Speaker 1:That's the internet. That was a nice one.
Speaker 2:Breaks the fucking Chavez Jr, that was a nice one. Breaks the fucking internet, bro, that's a nice one. Dude, real life boxing, like the behind the scenes stories and shit. Hollywood can't write it Like I've never seen this in a movie, I've never. I wasn't surprised, but I've never seen this like in any Sopranos episode, in all the cartel episodes, the shows they do. Every crime series couldn't write this up. And I found out some more info as I was doing my research with what actually they had. Julio Cesar Chavez do the cartels and I'm going to close out this segment with that.
Speaker 1:So what did you think when you heard that news? Guys, ice came. I'm like yo. Ice is just making a fuck to get everybody you know, after this big payday too, that he just got Yo I'm.
Speaker 2:Punch is stirring something up. I see him, he's fucking fidgeting.
Speaker 1:This shit is crazy Go ahead.
Speaker 3:Punch. What do you got? I can't say anything. All I'm going to say is this Look at the shoes that Chavez wore in his last fight and the fights before that. I knew what. What the fuck.
Speaker 1:What the fuck do you?
Speaker 3:mean.
Speaker 2:I can't go further than that. I honestly cannot go further than that. He works for the company. The shoes he was wearing.
Speaker 3:His dad are signed to us.
Speaker 2:So you knew after Him and his dad are signed to us, so you knew after the fight, or I didn't know he was going to get deported, but I knew he was involved with some unsecured characters for sure. So that too I was telling people, like I wasn't surprised, Like Mexico's favorite boxer, Canelo right, Like he had some ties and some shit going on there, like he had to negotiate his brother's release before fighting rocky fielding, and I don't mean the week before, I mean like 20 minutes before he fought rocky and he did.
Speaker 2:He did that himself. So you're telling me like they're gonna. You know what I mean. So it's like also, too, we forget we're very. We live in america, right, so we don't. You got to look at the, the lower level boxing in america, right? It's real cheesy and shady. Now imagine the lower level boxing in mexico. How shady and any level fighting in mexico yeah, yeah, yeah, but especially lower. Like think of it like the bar fights.
Speaker 1:I can't believe Devin Haney went over there and fought in Mexico. That's crazy.
Speaker 3:And lost.
Speaker 1:That's nuts.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 1:People be living double lives. People be living double lives. It's crazy. I wonder what Punch be doing on his spare time.
Speaker 2:He's just a chronic masturbator. I know one when I see one.
Speaker 1:Nah, this is crazy.
Speaker 2:Nah, but yeah, it is crazy. Did anyone see? Did Jake Paul make a statement or anything?
Speaker 3:No, nobody did, Nobody did.
Speaker 1:I ain't seen nothing.
Speaker 2:So what I read, though it's just I can't, I hope. So what I read, though it's just I can't. I hope they make a documentary of this, because it's going to be amazing to see. What I read, though, was that apparently, whatever big leader of that Mexican cartel, like one of one of Julio Cesar Chavez Jr's jobs was to, when people would fuck up, right, they would, they would hang him or whatever alive, and Julio would have to punch him like a punching bag. I'm like what the? You can't write that, dude, like you can't write that up. What? This is going to be the greatest movie of all time, dude. I hope Martin Scorsese gets on it, because this is hey, no, you know what?
Speaker 3:Honestly, though, you know, what would be sick is a 10, like a 10 episode series on netflix, like 24 format, where it's like one hour at a time but not that long. The whole thing, where canelo like has to negotiate his brother's like release to knocking out building, to after to where he has to negotiate some more. That would be sick. Yeah, nobody gives a shit about Chavez Jr, like I don't care that he got deported. Like is it really breaking news? Like I'm being honest, is it really breaking news that who says Chavez Jr is a piece of shit?
Speaker 2:no, no, and we said it. We said it when people were asking me, like people at work and people like in the streets were asking me like, oh, what'd you think of that, what'd you think of that fight, or what'd you think of him getting that, and I'm like you know, I I kind of expected it. I want to know, though, like I want to know did he, did julio, not throw any punches yo?
Speaker 1:that's what I just said. You just took the words out of my mouth. That's what I wanted. That's the real question. Yeah, now I'm thinking like I'm. I was about to say I don't give him, like, no, I don't give him. I don't like, I don't give him no leeway, no more. Like I was, like it's like I before I was like yo, this guy not throwing no punches, you don't give a fuck and the minute I see why you don't give a fuck he probably got so many side deals and yo the the minute he did throw punches, though he started landing, started landing.
Speaker 2:So I'm like yo did he fix this fight?
Speaker 1:Nah, I think he fixed it. It was some type of deals, because you know, he just he make deals.
Speaker 3:Hold on. Why would Julio Cesar Chavez Jr take that fight? What does he have to gain Other than a paycheck? What does he have to gain? Is he going to fight for a Cruiserweight title anytime soon?
Speaker 2:No, no, nothing, nothing, nothing. But I'm just saying like if I'm the cartel right and I'm gambling, I'm like yo, we're putting X amount of million dollars on Jake Paul, don't fucking win.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know Now the odds was for Jake.
Speaker 2:I guess so, I guess. So If you were doing that, he would have to get knocked out. I was like, oh, knockout, but whatever, that's enough on that. It was funny to see man, that is funny, boxing is crazy Boxing is never dead.
Speaker 1:It's like every week, never, never.
Speaker 3:Bro, when I come up with these marketing ideas, willie, you know what I tell companies when I meet with them it is the easiest sport to fake a crazy story in. Yeah, because crazy shit happens all the time.
Speaker 2:And the real stories are crazier than whatever you could think of. It's insane dude.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it makes no sense. It is the most bizarre sport with the most bizarre people in the world. It's insane.
Speaker 2:We love it, we fucking love it. What else? We're about an hour and 15 in now, so we're going to try and close it out quick, pacquiao.
Speaker 3:Barrios has a good undercard, like prelim who, who, who A prelim Gary Russell is coming back. Mark Sio is also going to be on the prelim.
Speaker 2:I like Mark a lot Mark could bang. I like Mark and I, like Gary and Mark, beat Gary. Gary hasn't fought, though, in what like two or three years right His last fight was Magsayo, which I think was 2021. That's a long. That's four years. That's a long, long time ago.
Speaker 3:Oh, also thanks for that's a long. That's four years. That's a long, long time ago. Oh also Thanks for playing. You know this. I'm going to announce it now, just like nobody's watching. I don't care, I hope they are, but we just got a sick fighter For the t-shirts. Fucking Regis agreed.
Speaker 2:Oh, awesome, awesome. He agreed that's sick. Regis Progray is signed with thanks for playing. That's going to be a sick shirt, but did think about it.
Speaker 3:He's rugaroo, which is a werewolf like we can make something so fucking sick with it, that is awesome did you?
Speaker 2:did you reach out? And yeah, whatever we're on the live recording, who cares? Did you read out, reach out to jenny or no? Not yet, not yet. No, okay, I will if you want to message again.
Speaker 3:If you want to give her my number, I'm totally fine with it.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, I'll text, because I can't fight you again. She's like going, it went to purse bid or something. She's about to fight for a belt, so what date do you know? No, I don't know, because it got like mexico it was in mexico and then she said it got pushed because the girl backed out, but it is for a belt, but I'll link you with her Also.
Speaker 3:Frank Martin is supposed to be on the tankard against. Rancid Bartholomew, which I joked about on this show.
Speaker 2:You're like the Nostradamus of boxing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I wasn't even being predictive, I was just joking. I'm like, oh yeah, he's going to fight Rancid Bartholomew like sarcastically and then we just come down oh, frank martin might be maybe you gotta find that clip yo lately.
Speaker 2:I don't know why, I think it's just the vibes, like our three energy, we we brought you in. Like we've been like predicting shit, not fights, like not the outcomes of fights, but like willie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all three of us need to manifest me fucking Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 2:And my penis growing, all right.
Speaker 3:Hey, speaking of tiny penises, bro, there is a movie coming out about John Madden and Shane Gillis is in it and I'm so excited. Oh my God, that's going to be funny Dude. Christian Bale plays Al Davis and Nicolas Cage plays. John Madden Gillis is in it and I'm so excited. Oh my God, that's going to be funny Dude. Christian Bale plays Al Davis and Nicholas Cage plays.
Speaker 2:John Madden. Is it a? Is it a comedy or no?
Speaker 1:It's a documentary right, it's like a documentary yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 2:That's awesome Dude, that's so fucking fire.
Speaker 3:And Shane Gillis is in it. I'm stubs. By the way, Shane Gillis calls his penis a teen-us. I'm not firing shots. If you follow the Old Testament, so do toe.
Speaker 2:Back to boxing. He's getting offhand.
Speaker 1:I don't even know where to go with that I'm sorry, you have to start naming to me white people for me. Yeah, sorry, we're naming white people for Willie.
Speaker 2:Shane Gillis is like one of the best comedians out right now, and he's accepted by the black community.
Speaker 3:Chappelle had him open for him.
Speaker 1:He has a funny ass joke.
Speaker 3:This one guy was like oh, I have a bunch of black stuff in my apartment. And he's like what black stuff do you have? Other people's stuff? Like just funny stuff, black stuff? Do you have Other people's stuff?
Speaker 2:He's a great comedian, he's awesome. He's like right now. Like I told you, he's going to be the next movie comedian we haven't had one in a while Like Adam Sandler. The next funny, funny movie comedian.
Speaker 1:Will Ferrell hey, you guys want to say hi to my roommate.
Speaker 2:Sure, live on the Spartan. We're going to say hi to her roommate.
Speaker 3:She knows Alexis Aguayo's son.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 3:Really, yeah, no, her old stepdad was really good friends with Alexis Aguayo. That's awesome. Yeah, she doesn't even understand that. And, fun fact, she was at Tyson versus Paul and Serrano versus Taylor too.
Speaker 2:A therapist is going to listen to this podcast and be like you all have ADD and you all need medication, I might get a pass.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you might Willie.
Speaker 3:She never watches boxing with me. She went to Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson. That's amazing.
Speaker 2:Let's see her. She just went inside.
Speaker 3:Let me ask you something Whose scooter scooter is that? It's not a scooter, this is a fucking aerator for the lawn oh my bad, I just saw oh wow, that's not my bad, all right, anyway, back to boxing.
Speaker 2:Uh, that's awesome. You signed regis progray, who'll be coming out with shirts, and uh, yeah and yeah, that's exciting news. I linked him with Ginny, too, to try and get her some shirts too eventually if she could put like a bear next to us she'd be drinking and we're still live just that one time. But she calls herself like the pirate, so you could probably make a cool shirt with that, something like that. But and I play.
Speaker 2:Steve's a lot, I can come up with something yeah, okay, yeah, uh, I was gonna speak on better be of real quick and then we're gonna close out the show because we are all over the place as usual what better be it with what he said about Bivel, or yeah, fuck him. Oh, wait, wait, you know what fuck that? Fuck the better be of stuff, who cares? Hopefully that fight happens. What are you mad at? He just said oh, when, when is he going to make this fight happen?
Speaker 3:Because the other fight would have happened sooner If he didn't fucking pull out. True what do you mean? What do you want this guy to do? Do you want him to vacate his title? He got mandated a title against somebody else that we don't know. Thank you, ibf. You fucking assholes.
Speaker 1:Either way Sorry.
Speaker 2:The real problem with boxing is it's not, it's not, you're just grabbing the frustrated stuff.
Speaker 1:It's not, it's not, it's not. This is frustrating.
Speaker 2:The real problem with boxing it's not so much the fighters not wanting to fight people. To me, like the belt system is awesome, but the mandatories.
Speaker 3:When you make a mandatory, make it like a good mandatory and then like, like, not these nobodies Like the IBF is the only sanctioning body that will say like look, if you don't fight, you're mandatory, we'll strip you Awesome concept. But then their mandatories are like hey, it's your neighbor, it's me, it's that guy that Berlanga fought. Hey, we have an IBF mandatory position on LinkedIn Go ahead and apply.
Speaker 2:And again, speaking of the sanctioning bodies, we didn't speak on this and I guess we have to. Uh, jake paul was ranked 14 by the wba, but apparently not for long they're gonna. They caught a lot of heat and steam and I want to say something. I thought the ali act right, the muhammad ali act was in effect to not let rankings get skewed like this and apparently they just forgot about it for jake paul because he's the money yeah am I wrong?
Speaker 3:yeah, okay, first of all, he was ranked 14th in one of the most obscure weight classes obscure weight class but the all the act is based on performance and he just beat a real bot like yeah, but a non-ranked real boxer who hasn't fought either way, though like what else is going on at cruiserweight and? I'm not defending jake paul but dude 14th still I. I 14th is like can you name 14 cruiserweights? No, I can't name 14 cruiserweights.
Speaker 2:No, I can't name 14 cruiserweights. I just know my guy, giovanni Scuderi, from Italy, worked his way up trying to get fights from the bottom, was 13. And Jake Paul is nowhere near on his level.
Speaker 3:No, but we know that. But like the whole thing is like the WBA is going to investigate the WBA.
Speaker 2:The only, the only that sounds like some weird, like that sounds like no, you're good.
Speaker 1:Put yourself in an audit.
Speaker 2:That sounds like some weird shit that happens in like police departments Like, oh, we're investigating him, or the FBI or anybody who does shady shit.
Speaker 3:Israel is going to investigate Israel.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I believe it Alright, but it is very, very, very odd that they just he wasn't ranked 15th, 16th, 17th. He just jumped to 14th, like, like what the fuck jumped to 14.
Speaker 1:What's the numbers special?
Speaker 2:that's not weird like what?
Speaker 3:no, I, I don't agree with it, but I also it's like like I can't I think it'd ever be all right if he was like 20 yeah, start at like 25, maybe like top 25, like, like, like what they do in college basketball, right, what is it?
Speaker 2:25 teams?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but that's like. But college basketball doesn't have rankings, they have conferences.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's like no, but the national ranking right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but the national ranking is different. That's not out of everybody.
Speaker 1:I think they'd be rage baiting.
Speaker 2:It's just very odd to me.
Speaker 1:I think they did it on purpose to rage bait.
Speaker 3:Let's get everybody talking. Okay, all right, all right, Hold on, hold on hold on. Do you guys know who Scrappy Ramirez?
Speaker 2:is Scrappy. Yeah, he's like the he kind of he fights on Jake Paul's cards all the time. Well he fights on Golden Boy cards a lot, wasn't he recently on Jake Paul's card too?
Speaker 3:Yeah, his last fight, but he's a Golden Boy fighter, is he? I didn't know that. Yeah, he is Okay. Okay, he's ranked number one by, I want to say, the WBA, but he lost his last fight. He won his most recent fight, but he lost the fight before that. He's a draw.
Speaker 2:No, he lost. No, I'm saying he's a draw, he makes money.
Speaker 3:Either way. I'm just saying why is Matias already getting a title shot? He's won one fight since he lost.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but this goes back to what I said like this is the problem, what's the standard, yeah, so how far do you drop after you lose?
Speaker 1:Do they actually drop?
Speaker 3:That's kind of my point. It's like what did Scrappy Ramirez do to go from losing to winning one fight against somebody we've never heard of, to being a number one contender like you even floyd.
Speaker 3:If you want to go to floyd's career and look, I'm a floyd defender. I was a huge floyd fan when he fought. But a lot of these guys he fought weren't like they might have been ranked high by a sanctioning body. But were they really really ranked that high of a contender? No, so it's like where do you draw the line? And I'm not a Jake defender. I don't think he's good. I don't think he's deserving of a title shot. He's calling for a Badu Jack fight which I don't think he's A serious about or B deserving of.
Speaker 1:You know why, right. You know why, though? Because he got the trainer, his trainer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I don't think he wins that fight either.
Speaker 1:But that's the reason why they try to make that connection.
Speaker 2:No matter how old Badou Jack is.
Speaker 1:They're like yeah, oh, his trainer was his trainer.
Speaker 3:My whole point is this is bigger than Jake Paul. The ranking system is bad and you you skipped over it. Puma, the whole dimitri bivol situation, the guy that he's mandated to fight for ibf I've never even fucking heard of him yeah, me neither.
Speaker 2:But he didn't. He turned that down, didn't exactly are we casuals? But he turned that down didn't he Exactly Are we casuals.
Speaker 3:No, we take time out of our life to devote to the sport of boxing, to create content for boxing. I've never even fucking heard of this guy.
Speaker 3:I don't even remember his name and he is number one in the IBF. This is different than Jake Paul. This is a shitty system that the OLLI Act was supposed to prevent. The whole OLLI Act was your manager and your promoter can't be the same person. Your promoter and your manager can't have a belt like, can't be in charge of a belt online that you're fighting for and you're supposed to get the rankings based off of performance versus name recognition.
Speaker 2:So it's not. Yeah, it was to help rankings have more oomph, like more meaning.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and you still get this bullshit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's what I mean. But the Jake Paul thing and I know I skipped over the Bivol stuff is more eye-opening to like, huh, like huh, it's more eye-opening because we know who Jake Paul is.
Speaker 3:But for the regular people yeah, for the regular people know who Jake Paul is. They didn't know who William Scholl was before Canelo fought him. He was the IBF mandatory.
Speaker 2:Think of, though, this we all, as boxing fans, want boxing to be like a real sport. That's on SportsCenter that we see commercials like it was back in the 90s and 80s. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Brunel Whitaker in the Monday Night Football.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, we want all that again. Right, and we're never going to get that. When I got regular people coming up to me like Jake Paul's, ranked 14th, boxing is so stupid. And then I got the people coming up to me like Jake Paul's, ranked 14th Boxing's so stupid, and then I got the whole UFC, but that's because regular people know who Jake Paul is. But that's what I mean. It's not right Like it's not, like. That's the problem.
Speaker 1:It was a rage bait, Like that's the problem. That's exactly a rage bait. We got all of us to sit here and talk about this shit.
Speaker 3:They knew they was going to do that. Who was the guy that Errol Spence fought after beating Kell Brook? Because he won the IVF after Kell Brook and then he had to defend it against the same dude that fought I can't remember his name he fought Tim Zhu. He got knocked out in one round by Tim Zhu. He lost the decision to Sebastian Fundora. He's not good and he was the number one ranked contender for Errol Spence in his first title defense.
Speaker 2:Was it the Van Heerden guy? Chris Van Heerden.
Speaker 3:No, not Chris Van Heerden.
Speaker 2:Ocampo no, he fought Carlos Ocampo.
Speaker 3:Lamont Peterson no, lamont Peterson was decent it was either before peterson or after peterson. Either way, I'm just saying like. Like we get these mandatories all the time that make no fucking sense, that nobody wants to see, that nobody wants to pay to watch or go to, and we just get it, the bivouac shit, though the bivouac quick.
Speaker 2:And then we really got to end it, because we're an hour 30 and we're trying not to go two hours again. But the Bivol, the Bivol, biterbiev shit. Right, I think there's more to that, because, like the WBC right, remember when the war in Ukraine started, they were like, oh no, we're not letting Russians fight, so on and so forth. So then of course, the Russian fighters are like fuck you, what the fuck did we do? And there was just a lot of drama that transpired after that.
Speaker 3:Dude Devo didn't even get his paycheck after the Canelo fight.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. That's crazy, that's unfair and crazy. I guess the point is boxing's a fucking shit show. It always will be a shit show.
Speaker 1:'re gonna close it out.
Speaker 2:We'll still be here talking and chopping it up Next week I am I'm gonna be in, not next week. Next weekend we're going to the fight Saturday. The weekend after that, unfortunately, I'm gonna be in Fucking Florida. So shoo, shoo fights. There's a bunch of fights on that card I won't be able to record. I don't think. It depends on when I come back. I might be coming back Monday. That being said, willie, me and Fossil, we're gonna Try and put out a shitload of content Of our experience ringside At the Ring 3 Tennis court.
Speaker 3:Add me as a collab, I'll help.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I will. And again, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try and like, go live, maybe on the ride up, because I think I'm gonna make fossil drive. Uh, what time are you trying to leave? We'll talk about that after. But uh, we're gonna do, we're gonna try and shoot as much shit as we can and obviously we're gonna be sitting with a lot of famous and boxers and real boxing people, so this should be fun. But punch, as always, thanks for popping in. I know you. Uh, you had uh some. Your roommate's family was over, so he's outside in nature chopping it up with us. Willie is here, as always. That's really it. That's all I got. Um peace.
Speaker 1:Thanks for watching, thanks for playing.
Speaker 2:Thanks for playing.
Speaker 1:Thanks, thanks for watching.
Speaker 3:Give Rashidi Ellis a fucking fight. Turkey.
Speaker 2:If I see him, I'll let him know. Bro, I'll be like yo Turk, give Rashidi Ellis a fight.