THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST
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THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST
Oh Jake Paul... and "Kid Austin" becomes a man.
What happens when boxing's most prestigious prospects meet unexpected resistance? This episode dives into a weekend filled with both shocking upsets and predictable outcomes, as we dissect Christian Mbili's thunderous first-round knockout win and what it reveals about his potential at super middleweight.
The crew doesn't hold back when analyzing Deontay Wilder's troubling performance against Robert Herndon. At 39, is the Bronze Bomber's decline now undeniable? We break down the technical flaws exposed during his seventh-round victory and question whether he can still compete with today's elite heavyweights.
Jake Paul's victory over Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. takes center stage as we explore what happens when social media stardom collides with boxing tradition. While Paul continues to improve, his defensive weaknesses become apparent whenever faced with genuine offense—a pattern Paulie Malignaggi perfectly described as "my turn, your turn" fighting.
The most explosive moment came when Floyd "Kid Austin" Schofield demolished veteran Tevin Farmer in just 78 seconds. We analyze the perfect body-head combination that changed Schofield's trajectory overnight and debate his readiness for potential matchups against elite competition.
Beyond the fights themselves, we dive into the contentious announcement of Devin Haney facing Brian Norman Jr. at welterweight, complete with the heated confrontation between their fathers that's added personal stakes to an already fascinating stylistic clash.
Whether you're a hardcore boxing enthusiast or casual fan, this episode delivers unfiltered insights, technical breakdowns, and the genuine passion that keeps us all coming back to the sweet science.
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Speaker 2:Now as well, we are what is going on. I am here with willie. He rose from the dead.
Speaker 1:His hair grew uh, you see my strip. I said damn long.
Speaker 2:He's got a little fro going on there. You look like boots, bro you got the boots.
Speaker 1:Hair dude.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying you look like boots. I don't want to be like, oh, this motherfucker.
Speaker 2:There he is. Punch lines, that's him.
Speaker 1:You know you be right there On the thin line, punch you know that right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I walk a tightrope for real.
Speaker 2:Yes, and we are canceled before we even started. Now what is going on? It is live episode four of the Spartan Boxing Podcast. No technical difficulties so far. Punchlines, you hear me. Good, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I hear you guys fine.
Speaker 2:The only issue is probably gonna be me, because I can't I cannot figure this microphone. You know. Same with us. But it's all right, definitely, yeah. Yeah, damn, bro, I can hear you and, um, I usually hear you better though, but I don't know. We'll work on that some other time. We are here. We actually had a little bit of a packed boxing weekend, a little surprisingly packed boxing weekend. Um, yeah, a lot of unexpected stuff happened. I was fucking totally wrong about my guy Tevin Farmer, but before that we got.
Speaker 3:Nobody saw that, though Nobody saw that coming.
Speaker 2:True, true, I wasn't alone.
Speaker 1:I was not alone. That's why I meant to look up the odds for the first round KO. That would have been crazy, yeah, that it was nowhere near.
Speaker 2:That would have been very crazy. Nobody thought that that would have been very crazy. Nobody thought that Vegas didn't think that either. But we got some stuff to hash out. Willie is with us. I'm more comfortable now. It's not just me and punchlines, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:Y'all boxing geniuses, ooh boxing geniuses, I wouldn't say that Y'all got a little of both sides you know what I'm saying what do you mean? I'm just saying y'all got a little of both sides. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what do you mean? I'm just saying y'all like fans but y'all know what fans know we're losers, nerds.
Speaker 3:I was happy We'll get into it. But I noticed something in the Jake Paul fight and I don't think it was something an expert would notice how rigged it is. Well, that is part of it, but even outside of the semantics and the conspiracies and shit, I noticed something and I pointed it out. And then today I heard Pauly Malignaggi say it much more intelligently than I did and broke it down pretty well, but I was like oh nice, so I was right. Then Yo, lately I like.
Speaker 1:Pauly on the commentator.
Speaker 2:That was last week or the week before. Dude, great, one of the best commentators, jahafi Jahafi. Yeah, yeah, I love Paulie. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like yo. That's better than hearing Tim, I ain't going to lie.
Speaker 3:Dude Paulie.
Speaker 2:I fighter paulie is one of my favorite announcers ever, like literally ever, and I'm not just saying that because I'm I'm also italiano, but speaking of italianos, uh, willie made me spaghetti.
Speaker 2:Just want the people to see that nice yeah and yeah uh, someone just commented wow, jake ginsburg, yo, I heard paulie doing bare knuckle. Is that true? That is true. I think he has a three-fight deal with bare knuckle. And another good thing about Pauly Malignaggi he's a dog dude, because in that bare knuckle shit he said I don't want to go straight to the champions, I know I can. I want to work my way up, I want to fight, I want to earn my he really about to do that yeah, again.
Speaker 3:I mean he do bare knuckle like a few years ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah conor mcgregor's boy, didn't he uh-huh um and he they. Some say he lost. I thought he won, but yeah, I thought he.
Speaker 3:I remember watching it. It was very uneventful.
Speaker 2:To be honest, it wasn't a fun fight um oh wow, we're getting, we're getting some hits speaking of bare knuckles um cassara boxing tv. Anybody know who that is.
Speaker 3:I don't Not off the top of my head but shout out to him.
Speaker 2:He said how are you guys doing? We are doing good. We are talking about Paulie Malignaggi. Willie made me some pasta.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tommy Morrison's son. He did a debut with some bare knuckles Really. I didn't even know that shit that's crazy.
Speaker 2:He won too. But yes, jake, that is true, pauly Malinagy is doing their knuckle seconds, but this is not the Pauly Malinagy show. This is no, this is the spar in boxing podcast. I would love to have Pauly on it, though. So, pauly, if you do catch wind, listen. But as an announcer, yes, he is one of my favorites, and the guy that we're going to speak on, deontay wilder, is part of the reason. He was a little jobless for a little bit, but I spoke on that before. Um, let me just give a breakdown real quick of what we're going to talk about. We are here. Willie is here with his hair. Uh, me punchlines is here. He's got the nice thanks for playing shirt on what about your hair?
Speaker 2:I don't have my shirt.
Speaker 1:It's my Sandy.
Speaker 3:Ryan shirt bro.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Sandy Ryan Y'all motherfuckers quit commenting on her posts too.
Speaker 3:I'm not talking to you two, I'm talking to everybody else. Everybody that comments on Sandy Ryan's push-up videos knock it off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he has a little crush on Sandy Ryan. Kassara Boxing says what you guys think of Jake Paulul. We are going to get there. Cassara, keep watching. I'm going to give you a little shout out too, because you're commenting my page is about boxers, that interview and post them on my page.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, cool. I don't know what that means, but just, uh, keep listening. We're going to get into paulie malnagi, but first let me give you the rundown real quick. We have a little in billy versus selecky, a little quick review of that. Uh, what expected happened just way too early. Um, we are going to speak on wilder versus herndon, dionte, wilder versus herndon. Not much to talk about there as well. Uh, obviously, like, uh, cassara boxing just asks. We are going to talk about jake paul versus julio caesar chavez jr. Uh, that whole card itself. Actually, we're going to speak on most of that card anyway, and whatever you guys want to talk about, you know how that goes.
Speaker 2:Um, very disappointment. I was wrong and it takes a real man to admit when he is wrong. I was totally wrong because I put I think it was like almost 200 on tevin farmer. So we, we are going to speak on tevin farmer versus floyd schofield. The account is not looking good. Gibberto ramirez versus unil aduticos and all the other news and current drama in boxing. Every week there is new drama, new announcements, other than the fights. Boxing will never die with the drama that goes on. Good to see. Let's uh, just get right into it. Um punch lines. I know you were watching that fight. We were texting billy versus selecky out of canada praise canada. What'd you think?
Speaker 3:I mean, uh, it was a showcase fight against a name, like you know, or that you should know, for like no casual fans watching billy, as we know anyway. But it's like you know he's not getting the top fights but he's fighting the same, you know, so like he just fought pacheco and shit. You know he's not getting the top fights but he's fighting the same, you know, so like he just fought Pacheco and shit. You know, we, we all kind of expected in Billy to win. I just I didn't think it was going to be in the first round. That is the, the combo too, cause I, when you rewatch fights, you get to like look, you get to like slow down a and watch it a little differently, because when you're watching it in the moment you're a little more locked in. But the replay of the combo he threw to knock him out was it's fucking dope dude.
Speaker 1:Dude, that was a great fucking combo. Is there really a rewatch of a fight if it lasted all day long?
Speaker 3:That's true. Yeah, you're rewatching it.
Speaker 1:He was watching the entrances.
Speaker 3:He watched the nice highlight. He was watching the entrances.
Speaker 2:He watched a nice highlight. He was watching the entrances. But again, everybody expected Mbili to win, but nobody expected that quick, nobody expected him to come out that sharp, that shit was an uppercut from hell.
Speaker 2:Just like another fighter we're going to talk about later. The biggest takeaway I got from that, though and again, this was a showcase fight, you're right, but it's like his second showcase fight, because when he fought what's his face? Devrinchenko, that was kind of like his showcase fight, and in the last show, I was like, talking about it, I'm like, you know, and Billy, he kind of let me down, you know, and this is like his get back fight, and he did that. But I just want to say something.
Speaker 1:You don't have a real belt right.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. Canelo got all the belts. Yeah, he's holding hostage, but what does that tell you about devrin chanko and how tough he is? The way he beat a selecky in the first round and I know he was going to win, but the way he did that in the first round and I'm not taking anything away from him, billy just shows you how tough devrin chanko is, that ukrainian, because with one arm he lasted, he really did and again, I'm not taking this moment away from him, billy he did what he was supposed to do and and not even what he was supposed to do and not even what he was supposed to do. He did more than what he was supposed to do in the right way. Coming off of what happened with Devorinchenko, like that's all forgotten. See how quick we forgot. I'm just saying I'm just saying like props to to Devorinchenko, because that the way in Billy looked, that is so good. Like that, that is so good.
Speaker 3:Left hook to the body clean left hook to the body, clean right uppercut to the face, clean the head, like and it was bad, it was, stoppage was kind of early, but uh, that ending was inevitable. Also the way he fell, like you know yeah that was kind of similar to how like ryan fell when uh campbell dropped him. Yeah, like everything just went. He couldn't even break his fall, he just fell.
Speaker 2:Yo, and when I texted you and I was like, oh, fucking body shot, dude, he's got Selecki's got no body. And then I watched the replay. I'm like, oh shit, there was an uppercut in there. I didn't even see it. It was like hidden.
Speaker 1:Bro. But he texted me about the knockout and I was like my shit hadn't even started yet like they were still announcing them.
Speaker 3:He's like whoa first round. I'm like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:I'm behind really bad dude. That was like he was definitely streaming it. Uh, illegal. Hey, no, I have espn plus.
Speaker 3:I legit have espn. I've I got espn plus just to watch Top Rank and Monday Night Football.
Speaker 2:That actually made me feel good about my internet, because I'm always like man I wonder if my internet's really good, or is it just hanging on, you know?
Speaker 3:what I mean, Bro. Espn Plus sucks ass for me. I'll lose sound every 30 seconds.
Speaker 2:Honestly, the best stream when this all started for me was DAZN. I don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Speaker 1:DAZN, like it's actually I, the hd just looks better for whatever reason, you can't watch.
Speaker 2:You can't re-watch the fights, right? Yeah, you have to wait also. Speaking of that, though, that's a good point. That's a good point with the damn.
Speaker 1:You got that whole app and you pay for. You can't re-watch, you have to wait till like releases.
Speaker 2:That's a good point. You bring that up because Jahai's fight and now this one Top Rank usually posts a nice edit of the highlights on YouTube. It's actually pretty cool. Top Rank does it. It's on their page. They stopped. They stopped doing that. I guess they're not funny, or?
Speaker 3:they fired somebody. They're doing the bare minimum. The fight clock is just that basic ass. Black and white yeah, simple shit, no graphics nothing.
Speaker 2:They had an out real soon, that's what that means and just like, yeah, they are. And just like, uh, the jihai fight, like I was talking about it was empty in there. There wasn't a lot of like production involved, like you usually would see it like the hulu theater you know, you know how you uh moving out, like you start moving out, yeah, little by little, that's what yeah they're doing, they're on their way on their way out.
Speaker 2:And same, though, with this it was really dark. My money, the canada card, I'm like, damn dude, it's like. There's like are there lights on over there? Like what the fuck's going on? It's very dark and like I was talking about when we were waiting, bro, they had like the wait screen. I'm sitting, I there. I'm like yo, it's been like 40 minutes. I exaggerated, I said like an hour. It was 40 minutes of staring at an empty ring and I'm like, could we get this rolling? Or put commercials on? Give me some noise. It's awful when they do that, bro. It makes no sense. You lose so many viewers and people have a short attention span as it is, and People have a short attention span as it is, and boxing can put on stinkers, and we'll talk about some stinkers that happen too. It's like, come on, at least put a replay of an old fight on there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good idea. Anything or a rerun of the build-up, whatever, yeah, but Showtime actually, pbc used to be good at that.
Speaker 3:They'd always just repeat what we just said. And the ufc plays like the uh, like their version of, like all access or whatever it is on repeat.
Speaker 2:If you're waiting, you're waiting. I get it. I get it. You want to. You want people to tune into the main fight and everyone to see it, but that that waiting screen is lazy as shit yeah, it's literally just the ring, bro.
Speaker 3:Not only that, they would do that when they would interview, like fighters would be getting interviewed in the ring and you'd hear it, but then it would just go back to that like just a picture of the ring like you know, generic shit they might need some go-go dances you know what we gotta do dude, next top ring card we go to.
Speaker 2:We gotta find that that camera for the wait screen and just like start like, just like, yeah, just stare up at it, moon it or something Like yo follow the podcast. No, for real, I'm going to try that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know that I'm going to go find that we getting kicked out.
Speaker 2:I just thought of that dude Damn. But yeah, I mean there is a lot of good fights at 168 for him, Billy, but not with top rank. So like there's a lot of names that would be great for him, like Charlo's one.
Speaker 3:He's not fighting any of the PBC guys.
Speaker 2:I won't let that happen. I know, but like that's really there's not, munguia would be the only top-ranked guy right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but he's out for a fucking year, yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's like he's kind of like that's another reason.
Speaker 1:I hope Bud beat the shit out of Canelo, bro, oh holding the belts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but then they're just going to rematch, yeah true?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Nobody's getting the fucking belt.
Speaker 2:But like seriously, there's even is Pacheco with top rank Golden Boy. Golden Boy, no, he's with Eddie, eddie, yeah, yeah, you're right. So so there you have it.
Speaker 3:Those fights, another guy um what's he's gonna fight mccombby after pacheco fights?
Speaker 2:yeah. So it's like, honestly, though, I want a fight for us, for our eyes, that would be fun, that's not gonna happen. I want beck the bully man, beck the bully versus billy to me, I think, and billy out boxes him and tags him up, but you're gonna get hit with some shit I think after that fulgham fight oscar's probably gonna shorten the leash with beck yeah, I could see that too.
Speaker 2:He's just a dog warrior, yeah. But there you go. There you have it. So the smartest thing I think it was errol spence ever said was uh, you're on the wrong side of the street or whatever. And there is some truth to that, because now you see it within billy super talent, very strong, got a tough, tough dude out of there in fucking 50 seconds, whatever it was, and now he's kind of stuck. These promotions are going to have to just come together if they want to fucking promote this guy.
Speaker 1:I feel like Canelo just got the whole shit on yeah he does.
Speaker 3:But remember I didn't mean to cut you off, but remember what I brought up last week how Mo Boxing, no problem. Shout out to them Legit boxing page. They're not like opinionated, really like if, if they put up a hypothetical fight, they'd call it that. So they're not like misleading. But he reported that planned card from turkey and he wants uh and billy to fight lester martinez dude, that's a sick fight, that's a great fight.
Speaker 2:Lester martinez is tough. That yeah, that's another good one, just another power puncher too, who throws.
Speaker 3:He's not going to sit in there and try to run away, because Sulekki tried boxing homie and he's not a boxer. No, never has been.
Speaker 1:No, but it just sucks. They fight for no reason, though it's like they just sit there.
Speaker 2:That's why Canelo I hope when Canelo retires that division is going to get so much better. And this is the biggest problem we always he kind of hijacks the show a little bit because we always I've been saying it since I started this fucking podcast two, three years ago, whatever it was. Canelo needs to just get rid of these belts like he can. Yeah, like everybody will still want to fight Canelo because if you lose to Canelo you're a millionaire.
Speaker 3:It's OK, he's going to free up 160 too, because everybody at 160 moved up to 168. Chasing that fight. 160 is kind of a wasteland right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that too, canelo is. While he's great and shooing for the Hall of Fame, the past two years has not been good for boxing.
Speaker 3:That's no disrespect to guys like Adamas and Janovec either, by the way, what I just said, but those two versus each other. As great as the fight as that is, you can make it a pay-per-view main event.
Speaker 2:That shit's gonna sell like 10 000 yeah, you're right and yeah, and that's a top 10 fight in the sport in my opinion but think of how good this weight division would be if the belts were freed up, like because then people can make, they can make man, if the, if the sanctioning bodies did what they were supposed to and made mandatories like good mandatories.
Speaker 3:Uh, you know what turkey should do, bro, since he loves this nostalgia shit with boxing. If once canelo gives up them belts, or even if not, you know what he should do the super shit yeah, another super six, yeah, yeah yeah, that'd be awesome, that'd be crazy.
Speaker 1:But run it better because the format Super 6 was confusing.
Speaker 3:Do like an eight-man tournament?
Speaker 1:I thought that was what he was supposed to be doing.
Speaker 2:Kassara Boxing says it would be my pleasure if I could join the conversation. I mean, you can. I can't really throw you in right now, not really sure how that would go. He's commenting that on IG. Huh yeah, I right now not really sure how that would go. He's commenting that on ig huh yeah, I don't really know how it would work on ig but um, tell him to pull up, send me an invite or whatever, maybe, and yeah, you could jump in, but we'll wear address tell him pull up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, come on over man. Uh, I'll run around naked, nah, just kidding. But, um, yeah, yo, yeah, next time for sure, just DM me, bro, and we'll figure that out. We're still working on this, our third or fourth time live, so just bear with us. Once we figure the kinks out, we'll have more interaction with the peoples. But yeah, that was really it, and Billy fucking did his thing. Props to him because I was a little down on him and he changed the whole narrative. That's what you're supposed to do bounce back matters and props to him a guy that, um, I've been down on, uh, freaking wilder man.
Speaker 1:Wilder versus herndon where did he fight?
Speaker 2:at when was that? It was like it wasn't a place where they show a lot of fights. Wichita.
Speaker 3:Yeah, wichita, kansas, kansas.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what the fuck? I ain't gonna lie. That shit looked like he's at the bottom of the bottle right now.
Speaker 2:Sly Tendencies just commented. Shout out to Punchlines, bro. You got me dying on the gram just commented.
Speaker 3:Shout out to punchlines, bro, you got me dying on the gram. Oh, that's the dude.
Speaker 1:Um that sent me. I sent you the screenshot of oh, that's when he was saying he watched his.
Speaker 3:Uh, he watches the show. Yeah, he said he likes the show.
Speaker 2:Like yeah shout out to him yo, bro, dm me. You get a free shirt seriously a sparring shirt. That's your favorite thing. Free sparring shirt. Dm me slight, slight tendencies for real, for real, no, no, at least he gives them away for free. Dude, there's Seriously A Spartan shirt. That's their favorite thing to say Free Spartan shirt. Dm me SlyTendencies For real, for real.
Speaker 3:No diggity At least he gives them away for free. Dude, there's fucking boxing channels out there with less followers than you asking motherfuckers to buy them. He'll get fighters on his show and ask them to buy them. Don't name drop it. That's so cheesy. No, I can name drop him anyway. Nobody's going to know who the fuck I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:Facts, but like nobody knows who the fuck you would talk about Herndon.
Speaker 3:Nobody knows me either, I'm just saying Does anyone know who Herndon is?
Speaker 2:You know who Herndon is. No, that's who Wilder fought in Kansas. That's who Wilder fought in Kansas.
Speaker 3:I wasn't hating on him for it. Right, because he's coming off of some bad performances. He's older. I was like, all right, this is clearly a tune-up fight for him. Not going to hold him for it the only thing I wasn't going to allow to happen. I was like, okay, if he knocks this dude out in brutal fashion, I don't want to hear Wilder's back. Wilder's return to form. Luckily, we avoided that Sort of Even with the win.
Speaker 2:Sort of because he didn't knock him out in brutal fashion and they were still saying Wilder's back, Wilder's back. I'm like dude, no, no, no, no, no, no, Pump the brakes. I will say this though, and this is kind of applause to Wilder so, as a gambling man and fucking going broke because of it, Wilder was on FanDuel's front main page for a special, and you rarely see that in boxing. The only other guy that was on the front main page with specials was Jake Paul. So somehow Deontay Wilder versus Herndon dude made it to the special page, and that's kind of how much of like a force a really good American heavyweight is Like it shows you, like holy shit.
Speaker 1:I don't know how anybody's jacking FanDuel right now After what they came up with that fucking Sharon Betts shit. Oh yeah, we good on FanDuel man.
Speaker 2:But dude, think of that. Like Deontay Wilder I don't even know his first name, herndon he made the front page on Fandu. Yeah, there was a special made for him on Fandu. So people are still invested in fucking Wilder. That's kind of crazy to me.
Speaker 3:And if that was a way to get gamblers to watch the fight as a promotional tool, bro. That's smart though yeah, it's smart, but like that's not the, that's not the fight, nor the card to do it, because not only could I not name wilder's opponent, I can't name any of the other guys on the card yeah, that was on the card anybody uh, not that I.
Speaker 2:It was very boring. And that's another one where, like, the production looked really bad. It was on what was it? Blk, prime or whatever. Yeah, and it was very boring, and that's another one where, like, the production looked really bad, it was on what was it BLK? Prime or whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it was dark. It looked like a 2B.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah it looked very bad and again Wilder tried to like work on things with this guy.
Speaker 1:Wait, hold on Y'all acting like y'all watch 2B movies.
Speaker 2:I've seen them. Yeah, yeah, no, I just I just see the reels, the memes of the reels, like in my instagram. I have seen it. I thought tubi was like cool for like five seconds and then I was like, all right, this isn't cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did think it was cool that's just like a black thing for real, is it tubi movies?
Speaker 3:hell of black movies, dude, I used to yeah I mean they show like old black movies really yeah, like dude, that meme I posted the other day was from a Tubi movie.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, what did it look like? Step on my no. No, you said that was today. Which one did it come out?
Speaker 3:The one when I said Brian Norman Jr or Demi Haney, first time he gets hit by Brian Norman Jr and he was like oh, I got hit.
Speaker 2:It was spin, move and everything that's from the 2B movie, damn, really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, did you know the movie? Or you just saw the clip? No, I saw a meme and I was like oh, I know what I can use this for. That's what I do when I see shit in my algo. I'm like oh, I can repurpose this to boxing somehow.
Speaker 1:He's always on go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's always ready, man Slide Tendencies says. I saw Herndon get destroyed by Richard on top rank. Yeah, in like two rounds.
Speaker 3:My friend texted me that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I heard the announcers talk about that. You know it is what it is. You know what was funny, though, during this fight what's his face, that Triple G warrior? He was calling out Berlanga Shit. I'm having a brain fart with names, as usual. Oh, rosado, yeah, yeah, gabe Rosado was on the mic and he's also a decent announcer, but whoever was with him I don't even know who it was was trying to gas up Wilder like crazy, and you just hear Gabe, yeah, yeah, he's doing some good things in there. He wasn't trying to hate on him. He's like yeah, yeah, he's doing something. Okay, he's working on the jab.
Speaker 3:His jab looked better. Yeah, everything else looked clearly degraded.
Speaker 1:That shit looks slow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very, very slow. He's still throwing this like windup, like he's pitching something, and I don't know. I just didn't. I posted actually. I was like yo, oh, that's another thing about FanDuel. So, on FanDuel, this is how what Wilder was supposed to do, first round, knockout was plus 200. Second round was plus 400. Third round was it just kept going up and up and up. You rarely, you never see that.
Speaker 1:That's mad low.
Speaker 2:The highest odds were first round knockout. Everything else went down. You see that sometimes in in a way fights, but like you never, ever see that really in and while there had never seen a plus 200 in our first round. First, round dude is crazy. Yeah, that's and, and I posted I was like yo if if this goes past three it's a loss for Wilder. It went seven. It went seven.
Speaker 1:Seven rounds, yeah, and it was a long seven rounds.
Speaker 3:It felt like round 11.
Speaker 1:I don't think that fight was. I mean he was fading that guy fast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he wasn't hurt. Nothing clean was learned. Slytendency says Wilder brought in a lot of casual fans after he beat Stiverne the second time and went mega viral. I had people I know don't watch boxing asking me if I saw the Wilder fight. Oh wow, see what I mean. See the stronghold he has in America. A great American heavyweight.
Speaker 1:We're on the hunt, we are on the hunt.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he had that crazy power uh you know, but that's really it.
Speaker 2:I don't know what's next for him. I, like you, said punch lines when we were texting. You're like I don't think he beats anybody. Top 20. I was like. I looked at some lists and I'm like top 30, give him a run for his money too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't I, I think, I think.
Speaker 1:You might as well let him throw him in there with Big Baby.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jarrell, miller, jarrell.
Speaker 1:Miller, either one of them.
Speaker 3:Or. Andy you know, andy Ruiz, because he don't got much left neither, and that's a big payday for both of them.
Speaker 2:But if you base, maybe If you base like Ruiz versus Miller's last fight, that was a draw or whatever, they both beat the hell out of Wofford.
Speaker 3:I think they're you know what I mean based off their last fight, yeah, and even like when I texted you, I was like fuck it, I think Ajagba beats him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, fa Ajagba's another one Right now. Yeah, because he's on the up and up and again this happened last week. Someone's on the up and up, someone's on the decline. Yeah, but he's like he's got no head movement.
Speaker 3:that guy I thought he should have retired after the Zang fight. I'm glad he's getting money. I'm not going to hate on him for getting money, but I mean he's 39 years old. He gets hit frequently. I guess against this Herndon guy he didn't, but Somebody that knows what they're doing. Yeah, you don't want to keep taking hits from guys over 200 pounds and when he gets Every fight when he gets hit, it gets worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 2:It seems like ever since Tyson Fury it just keeps getting worse, and he was still getting countered by that guy bro?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was, he was, because he still, when he throws his jab, his hands are like still right here, his right hand's like way out here, like this when he throws it.
Speaker 1:Listen, though you might as well call Aiden Ross or something. Go online and yeah just Quit ducking.
Speaker 3:Charleston White Wilder.
Speaker 2:Or no, you know what he should do. Like like um, get on one of those reality tv shows, bro. Like apparently him and his brother like banging the same chicks and stuff. So like, dude, he, he can make a lot of money there with that, yeah oh, what he's got like an atlanta mansion.
Speaker 1:He's gonna be fighting jake paul in five years they should get him and ab together and then somebody oh god ab that guy is spiraling bro ab bro.
Speaker 3:let him and Big Baby fight, let them both take steroids. Yeah, yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2:I said Big Baby him and Big Baby, I love that one 100% Let any heavyweight fight and both take steroids.
Speaker 3:Wilder on steroids might make someone's head pop For real, seriously, yeah.
Speaker 2:That'd be nice, like roll out of the ring Roll, make someone's head pop for real, seriously, yeah, that'd be nice like roll out of the ring.
Speaker 1:Roll out of the ring just let them both do.
Speaker 2:Imagine him on steroids how like his bomb squad thing would be. That was cool too when he used to do that like that. When he meant it like on the come up the bomb squad thing before it was real big, like he'd say I'd be yo. I get startled like what the fuck was that? Yeah, he, yells bro, yells bro. Yeah, he probably dude. When him and his brother were like banging the same chick like what Dude.
Speaker 3:He was probably tearing that thing up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, they were putting her through some fucking rounds, dude. Yo, that girl needs to get on some stuff.
Speaker 3:really. She was doing rounds in the doghouse. Bro Yo, this is doghouse sparring.
Speaker 2:you're not leaving till you get knocked out fucking bomb squad orio is not working, she got she got bomb, squatted dude all right, uh, anyway yeah, you know, I don't know what's next. I don't really. Uh, wilder, hey man, I, I like the guy when he was on the up and up I I thought the Joshua fight should have happened. It lost some steam now obviously, he's not going to retire.
Speaker 1:No, no, he's not.
Speaker 3:You can tell he needs money, bro I know, but I'm just, I'm not even a fan of the guy. I'm not going to say I dislike him, I definitely don't. I'm just indifferent on him.
Speaker 2:It was fun to watch him. I never rooted for him, but I don't want to see him get hurt. Yeah, like you know, the top 10 guys all hurt him. Every single one hurts. Oh, yeah, bad. And we kind of saw that with like zhang. Like zhang proved that easily too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh hey, um my boy, big bang zhang. We got you know what.
Speaker 2:He's still training I mean, he's still training, so damn, yeah, that's really. That's really it on the wilder uh. Next we got the card that the the other special on fan duel. You want to? You guys want to start with just jake paul himself, or you want to talk about the undercard first, and then we got some news notes and other boxing bullshit I don't know, I feel like we should start with jake paul.
Speaker 2:That's what most people want to hear about anyway yeah, oh, hold on this dude, this dude, this dude's slide tendency. He's got a lot we should read him. Yeah, he's got a lot of info small, I can't see him yeah, I actually got another screen to put like next to me to see it. But he, what do you?
Speaker 3:got, say it. I think he's the one that's friends with your girl, sly. You're friends with Mayer, right? You know Michaela, I think it's the same person, I guess, because he DMs me frequently, sly if you somehow get Mayer on the show, she thinks I'm stalking her.
Speaker 2:I'm not. I just want her on the show. We could do remote. I can't get handsy on remote.
Speaker 2:Yeah, get her on here, bro, I'd love to talk to her. No, you are not invited. You are not invited. Listen, though. He says he's got some good info on Wilder. I think this dude's friend Yo get wilder on the show. I'll send you three shirts. Finkel, said they. They did the fight with blk prime because wichita is paying a huge uh site fee to promote the new mayor. Why else would he go into bfe? I think all the black folks in the state showed up.
Speaker 2:Yeah it's fine not a lot of black folks out there. I had to guess, so you might be right. Um, and then he said bro wilder's hands are almost half metal. He's had 11 surgeries. Blah, blah, blah. On the juice, he'd probably kill someone. I'm telling you now, wilder should fight jake paul. That's the level of competition he needs. Oh good, good, you know, I like the slide tendency slide, slide.
Speaker 1:Look, look one more time. Wilder would take that money, so he's definitely taking the fall. He's definitely taking the fall because we still well, we talked to Flats and he said he's a real boxer, but these fights are still feeling so fake. We don't know yet. I can't tell.
Speaker 3:Bro, you just want to get into it, then yeah, let's get right into it.
Speaker 2:Jake Paul. Jake Paul versus Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Go ahead, punch, what do you got?
Speaker 3:I get why everybody's like upset. I just don't get why everybody's like angry. And this is a disgrace, this is shocked. What the fuck did you expect Julio Cesar Chavez Jr to do? He's almost 40. He just got out of rehab. He's a perennial disappointment, not just because of his level of talent, but because of his level of effort and commitment. Not just because of his level of talent, but because of his level of effort and commitment. He did exactly what you knew he would do. He didn't land a punch for like two rounds. I feel like he didn't throw.
Speaker 2:He threw, I think, a total of like 10, I read somewhere Like 10 punches until the eighth round. He was a punching bag. I will say this though, like it's kind of funny like no contact sparring so yeah, I did nothing, bro, he just stood there hey, he's michael montero.
Speaker 2:Uh, he's a ring magazine like writer editor. Now he has montero on boxing. You guys probably heard of him. He's pretty big in the box. He's big on twitter actually, or x, whatever the fuck it is. But he he said something that made sense. He's like listen, I don't think he took a dive. He's like I don't think julio cesar chavez took a dive. He's like when you don't fight in forever amount of years, come out of rehab, you're fucking. It takes you a long time to get warmed up, but then you you look at like the ninth and 10th when he did start throwing. Jake Paul is not that good.
Speaker 3:No, he doesn't throw. If he's getting thrown at and Pauly said it perfectly what Pauly said was he's a my turn, your turn type of guy. He'll throw and then you'll throw and he'll block it. You know, cover up or he explodes back like he moves more than he should, but he doesn't know how to throw and defend at the same. He doesn't know how to defend and keep his foundation encounter. Yeah, and he doesn't. I said last night, whenever Chavez throws, whenever anybody throws on him, he doesn't do anything except cover up and move.
Speaker 2:And I don't want this is going to sound crazy, crazy to say as a boxing nerd like myself. I don't want to take anything away from Jake Paul. Like the guy did win the fight. He has no amateur background and it is apparent that he's getting better. He's by no means good, but it's apparent he's getting better and I think sometimes as boxing fans we give in a little too much just because of the draw. He is the shit he talks, he is who he is. You know what I mean. He is getting better. I don't think he's going to hit that next tier ever, because with that next tier comes talent and skill and he's talentless. He just has skills that he's training to learn and he's getting a lot better very quickly because he has the time, money, a good team etc, etc, etc. What he is doing. And now it's figured out he's putting monster undercards on because time and time again the undercard is for the real boxing fan. So if this is his gateway to promotional, he's doing the right thing.
Speaker 2:You know yeah he builds good cards. Dude that card was that card was a great boxing card. He's doing the right thing, you know. Yeah, he builds good cards. Dude, that card was that card was a great boxing card.
Speaker 1:He's definitely a genius in marketing, so that's how he gets.
Speaker 2:He gets in with everything, dude the guy has no amateur background was on disney and got a fight with mike tyson. That broke netflix. Yeah, like netflix didn't break during covid dude, when all you could do is crank your shit and watch Netflix, and he broke it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, his accomplishments are more boxing business-wise rather than actual boxing-wise. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:But you got to see how he's getting a title shot.
Speaker 3:Allegedly there's no way. There's no way.
Speaker 2:That was a good undercard matchup that he had on it with Gilberto or Zerto Ramirez Before we move to that.
Speaker 3:I got to address this because it's fucking insane. Nobody's talking about it because I know they don't take him seriously, but his call outs after the fight when he was on the mic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I saw your call out.
Speaker 3:I'll fight Badu Jack. I'll fight Anthony Joshua. I'll fight Tank Davis. I'm like Badu Jack. I'll fight Anthony Joshua. I'll fight Tank Davis.
Speaker 2:I'm like they're like 130 pounds apart, he finally gets announced that he's in the rankings and now he's going to a different weight class.
Speaker 1:He calls out a heavyweight and a lightweight he took about shooting for the stars.
Speaker 2:He should have shot like Kobe but you know, listen, he is what he is and this, this fight, just showed me the most about him that when he faces a real boxer and the real boxer throws punches, he's going to lose, because he almost got knocked.
Speaker 3:If that fight was going 12 rounds, he was getting knocked out, he was getting hurt bro shabbos was still like I wouldn't say rocking him, but he was definitely bothering him, like especially those shots to the body in the 19th and and tenth.
Speaker 2:And I do want to give jake paul some boxing credit in a sense, because, like yo, he landed some clean shots on chavez's body, like, yeah, super clean, and chavez is tough dude look coke heads are tough.
Speaker 3:His right hook to the body in the beginning was actually I even called it out like it's pretty decent, I'm not gonna lie, that was powerful, yeah and he would set it up with a jab too.
Speaker 2:He wouldn't just I did see, like a lot of like when he realized he couldn't get him out of there. And as the fight went on, though, I'm like looking at jake paul and I'm seeing a lot of like, flaws, like, with his jab he jabs right and then he just drops it and it sits there and I'm like, yeah uh, chavez jr 10 years ago knocks you out. Listen, chavez Jr is what he is. The best part about Chavez Jr, though, is his father and every fight his past, like three or four fights that he's in when they pan to his legendary Mexican killer dad and you just see him screaming at his son in disappointment. It reminds me of Little League, when I'd strike out at every at-bat and I'd look over at my dad and he'd be fucking trying to fucking kill me Even he's getting a lot of hate for that shit from last night.
Speaker 1:Prior to just being there, like yo, this is your son.
Speaker 3:What did he say? Well, no fans are saying like shame on Chavez Sr for telling us that Junior was going to be good, and the fact that he even supports this shit is a fucking disgrace to boxing.
Speaker 2:It's like his son, though Come on, Do you think he's looking at this shit as like it's a legit boxing fight? I heard Chavez Jr made like three or four mil just from the fight, like just from that, from signing Three mil just for like what God bless him. Imagine going to rehab, coming out and just oh, here's three mil to fight some guy, To do a sport that you grew up on and love and been in your bloodline forever, no matter how good of shape you're in.
Speaker 1:They didn't even fight for half of the damn fight either.
Speaker 3:It's moving around the ring Every fight it pisses me off more that that dude actually beat Andy Lee back in the day. It legit bothers me that he beat Andy Lee.
Speaker 1:Yeah, day like it. Really it legit.
Speaker 2:Bothers me that he beat andy lee, yeah, he did fight canelo too. That's yeah, but did that go?
Speaker 3:that went the distance right yeah, and he lost every single round and canelo never even took a seat between rounds the best.
Speaker 2:The best, though, was his fight versus fucking um danny jacobs when he like just quit and then yeah, didn't you say, he broke his hand? He fought mad people. It was like that fight I don't know if it was in Mexico or Texas, I think it was in Texas it was a big Mexican crowd. They started throwing full beers at him. Danny Jacobs was bobbing and weaving. It was his fault. He said I didn't do shit.
Speaker 1:He made mad money off of just his last name.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he lived off of it entirely. When I went to the fights in la back in 2016, I went to andre burdo, victor ortiz too, yeah, at the the fight in la, where it's outside uh-huh and uh, victor ortiz quit again, which you know he had done before and when he was walking, yeah, and, and like, a bunch of mexicans showed up to watch him. And when he was walking back to the tunnel, there was a fan waiting for him, and when the dude walked by, he fucking threw nachos in victor martiz's face.
Speaker 2:It's crazy.
Speaker 2:And everybody started like throwing garbage at that guy when the cops like fucking escorted him out and shit I think, though, in the danny jacobs fight too I don't remember a while ago now, but he said something like they, like they went to interview him in the rings, like I mean, I don't know why they're booing me I didn't quit and shit just started throwing like I didn't do nothing. That got him mad, but I think they were mad at uh, chavez, jr, uh, yeah, that that's really, and listen again again. I just want to make it clear, because j Paul, jake Paul, bites get a lot of hits. I I'm not really hating on Jake Paul. Like the guy signed up for this fight, fought this guy and he is getting better, and for a guy with no amateur background, he's what 11 and one Listen boxing wise he's. He's on his way, I guess, to to getting better each fight but he is by no means.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but no, I don't know, I feel like people my bad. I didn't mean to cut you off bro. No, you're good, you're good. People call it hate, like not taking him seriously as a top level boxer. That doesn't. That's not hating, that's just being rational. Yeah, like, like, like. I will acknowledge what you've done. It's not easy to go from no amateur background and still beat the guys you've beat. But you're also not a top 10 fighter in real life. The only reason you're getting put in these sanctioned body rankings is because if you do get a title fight, whoever sanctions that fight is going to get a fucking part of it.
Speaker 2:You're going to get a payday, yeah but again, I think this is his, his door to promotions, I mean he's doing.
Speaker 1:He's doing better than dana white in promotions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the way he came in, he came in hot speaking of dana white.
Speaker 3:that fight, the the the Chavez fight, was so bad because I was watching at my boy's house. We put on the UFC fight in the middle of the fight. Yeah, we'll put this fight on the phone. If anything happens, we're going to watch the UFC fight 20 seconds later. That shit was over, so we put the Jake Paul fight right back. The fuck on.
Speaker 2:So I was actually that same kind of dude.
Speaker 3:That dude is an elite boxer so I was actually that same kind of dude is on elite boxer. Yeah, dude, he jabs to the body. He actually knows how to fight on the inside, because I said that in mma nobody knows how to fight on the inside like a boxer. Like knows how to box on the inside because of muay thai. I was like, but people are going to quit using muay thai on the inside because of wrestling. Yeah, I was like, but because of that, people are going to start boxing because nobody knees or does a lot in the pocket anymore. They do the MMA shit because MMA has evolved to be like its own form of like a combat, rather than this merger of different combats. It's become like its own thing and because of the lack of like knees and stuff on the inside now and takedown attempts, like more people are learning how to box on the inside and that dude's like legit, good at it, legit.
Speaker 2:And he like also what's his name. More people are learning how to box on the inside.
Speaker 3:That dude's legit good at it. What's his name? Ilya.
Speaker 2:Teporia, ilya Teporia. Yeah, also too, what I noticed with him his fucking precision on his punches. You can tell he's doing some double M-bag workouts or something.
Speaker 1:He can definitely come over here to the boxing world and get a fight. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3:They're talking about him fighting Canelo. Don't do it, no, no.
Speaker 2:Jake Paul, fight Jake Paul. I'll up down for that.
Speaker 1:That'd be a money. That'd be some money.
Speaker 2:I know the weight is way different. But fight Jake Paul, That'd be fun.
Speaker 1:How much do you weigh? 155, bro I was going to say 160, but 155.
Speaker 2:But yeah, hey, I had the same kind of issue going on. So I had a wedding and then after the wedding, we went to my brother-in-law's house who's more of an MMA guy, but he's an old school boxing guy and I was like, hey, he's like Jake Paul's fighting right. I'm like, yeah, he's like, oh, come to my house after we'll put it on. I'm like, oh, what's that? He's like, oh, dude, it's the UFC fight. I felt bad because I'm at his house. I got Jake Paul on the TV.
Speaker 2:I'm like, fuck, but I really tuned in, for what we're going to talk about now is Zerto Ramirez versus Dorticos. That's why I had him put the fight on and I'm gassing it up. I'm like, yo, this is going to be a really good fight. Me too, this is going to be a really and I got people sitting there like non-boxing fans. It was after a wedding. We're drinking, eating some fucking wings and fucking cheese and I'm like yo, don't watch this fight. This is going to be a really good fight, a really good fucking fight. It was a fucking stupid, stupid-ass fight.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the most exciting part was when Homeboy just started punching him in the fucking thigh.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And you know what? I keep betting Zerto knockout and I have to stop because it's very clear to me that he has this weird methodical way of scoring points at this weight class and he's not going for the kill, he's not knocking dudes out. So I really need to stop betting that, because I did, I'm drunk and I'm like I think you bet him every time every time I'm like yo, he lands so much, his accuracy is so good.
Speaker 2:I'm like yo, he's good enough, but there's just no zip on him. And then, when you nothing, when the guy gets hurt, he stands there and looks at him and I'm like, all right, at least pepper him a little more with no zip, whatever, whatever. But he doesn't.
Speaker 3:He fights like Omar Figueroa, dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:Just a little yeah.
Speaker 2:But like you would think, at this weight and his size he's a big dude. I'm like, oh, something's got to hurt, no, and so I'm starting to agree with you more. And I wasn't at first, but now this fight kind of showed me Jai Upataya fucking dismantles him fucking dismantles him. He kills him bro, he also gets hit. A lot Zerno's in there getting tagged up. He's getting hit by that guy.
Speaker 1:The dude, though he won. He raised his hand and everything after the point induction, and everything after all them low blows and everything.
Speaker 3:I was telling everybody. I was like that's my real main event of the fight. Then I watched it. I'm like fuck y'all man this. And then I watched it. I'm like fuck y'all man.
Speaker 2:This guy Sly said Elias, elias' former coach. Back to him, we'll get over that. His former coach trained with Eddie Reynoso to learn boxing for MMA. Oh, so he definitely on that shit yeah. He might be on the Juicy Juice too man.
Speaker 3:Oh dude, you see what he just said. He said one of zerto's main coaches is malik scott. That explains a lot. You're right, bro. Yeah, malik malik scott doesn't train anybody how to be boxers, he trains them how to be malik scott. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what michael fox said. He's like he just turned wilder into malik scott. That's all he did.
Speaker 2:He didn't improve anything, and you're right, because zerto is a good example of that too. He's just lightning fast hands, good precision, good cardio. He's throwing a lot towards it. No zip and no kill. No kill, like you need the kill, where's the kill? Deontay Wilder was great because he had the kill, like where's the kill. But I mean I'm done with him. I will say this If Jake Paul and Zerto ramirez fight, I I'm betting my house on zerto ramirez knockout. But uh, I don't think jake paul and zerto ramirez are gonna fight, though that's just no, he's hoping he's getting an old body, jag, he's hoping body jack's too old.
Speaker 3:He's calling out everybody.
Speaker 1:He's just like you know what body jack. That's kind of smart.
Speaker 2:Badu Jack beats the shit out of Jake Paul too.
Speaker 3:No, it is smart Because, willie, what you said, not to cut you off, but Willie said Tank is smart, don't outsmart everybody.
Speaker 1:You said Tank is smart Jake.
Speaker 3:You meant Jake Jake yeah For calling out guys like Tank and Josh.
Speaker 2:He knows people are going to say this is fucking ridiculous. He gets them talking Click, click, click, click click.
Speaker 1:He might end up fishing one of them in. He always does. That's a good point, willie.
Speaker 2:He's not beating a top 20 guy from like 160 up. I don't think he's beating the top, but whatever.
Speaker 1:But he got some good fighters on his shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the undercard.
Speaker 1:He had a good one. Our dance-off man. We thought he was a rapper.
Speaker 2:That dude got fucked up. Dude, it's funny you say that I thought about this when that fight went on. I had to rewatch it. I didn't get to watch it live, but so Willie and I we met Avious Griffin he's boys with Terrence Crawford and he kind of started Willie's dance off with Terrence.
Speaker 1:Crawford yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 2:And it was cool. It was cool to see. And here's something to be said. We didn't really know much about him. Uh, maybe we should have. We didn't even really recognize him, but he looked like a flashy rock star rapper. Like right, we both looked each other like yo, this guy must be like a rock star or something. Decked out, huge jacket like sunglasses on, thicker than me, like fucking look, he looked like a fucking legit. Like yo, he looked like a rock star and he was cool, though very cool guy. But now that kind of like is playing to effect. So then I start following him.
Speaker 2:He gets signed with mvp, he's posting all these things. He is training and he trains with, with friends of ours and stuff and good camp in in, uh, terence crawford's camp with bomac and all them. So he is training hard, but you're not a rock star yet. Terrence crawford's the real rock star. You're not there yet. Like don't act like that. And this kind of showed like julian rodriguez wanted it more and and he got knocked down. Julian did. Avs griffin has great skills and talent, but this came down to that nitty-gritty. Who wants it more?
Speaker 2:he didn't look great, though, bro, like I don't know, I didn't see anything I saw some power in both hands, though it was nothing like like eye shocking from him. Who, julian rodriguez you mean? Or griffin?
Speaker 3:to be honest, kind of both of them. But rodriguez showed me more than griffin. Griffin, I didn't think looked. I thought he looked. Sloppy, I thought he looked he.
Speaker 2:His punch resistance is really bad.
Speaker 1:He got hit and like got hit with those hooks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he got hit with a hook in the third or fourth time and that's when it all changed, like the confidence. He got hit with a hook in the third or fourth noodle leg like yeah, four times in a fight and he never got his confidence back.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I just don't think he has great ring IQ either. No offense to him, but I didn't see. I just saw a lot of yeah, no, it looked like a fight between two guys you've never heard of before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it kind of was, although I will point this out and I didn't know this. But Julian Rodriguez follows the Spartan on Instagram and I went to follow him. I'm like, oh bro, this guy's got this knockout, let me follow him. And then I'm like, oh shit, he follows me he's from Bergen County too, so that's what's up.
Speaker 3:Shout out to them. He's from Jersey. He lives in Harrisburg Heights I was like one town over from where I work but your man, he had the same problem.
Speaker 1:your man's over there had that fucking hair bro, I was just going to go there that fucking hair.
Speaker 2:He's talking about Oshaki Foster. I got to post it.
Speaker 1:This hair was in front of him, on the side of him, and then I never seen this.
Speaker 2:They taped it up mid like the fifth or sixth round. He had tape in his hair and same thing. It was annoying. But this brings me to my next point. That's on the, that's on management, and bomack in them and and we're seeing some, some slips in in that whole great camp. Like that's on them, bro, because because if I have a fighter right and his hair is, his hair is bouncing around, covering his eyes every punch he throws, it's bouncing. You feel that, like you feel your hair bouncing. It's a distraction. If I'm a, if I'm a manager and a trainer, whatever, a cut man, I'm going to say, bro, you got to cut your hair. Like the tape isn't going to work. Oshaki Foster once came out with hair down to his ass taped up. Bro, it looked like a fucking baseball bat. He was carrying a baseball bat. Oh, like Derrick Henry Worse almost, bro, like worse, because it was like it was crazy, and I like Oshaki.
Speaker 1:It's like he was about to do a Pokemon fucking slash.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Whip, whip, it's just oh, whip it with his hair.
Speaker 3:Fucking freezer-looking-ass bitch.
Speaker 1:I say he look like a Hebrew hammer.
Speaker 3:Oh, shout-out to Cletus Selden.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's funny Yo, but yeah, that to me is on Like BOMAC, shouldn't Like yo. Bro, listen, Cut your fucking hair. Yeah, Cut your fucking hair.
Speaker 1:I mean, you don't really gotta cut your hair, but I feel like they felt like you know he was gonna get him out of there or some shit like that. You know what I'm?
Speaker 2:saying, yeah, they got a little too cocky, but Julian Rodriguez believed in himself.
Speaker 1:How long he had that hair for, for the fights and shit. I know.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying Bro.
Speaker 2:the fact that they taped it, though, means it was bothering him. It looked annoying. We don't know if it's annoying, it looks annoying, but who knows, bro, this shit just flapping around every side of.
Speaker 1:He was on each side. It was just making appearance like one side he was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was like it looked like something was jumping on his head.
Speaker 1:You got the dude knocked, the shit back to the other side.
Speaker 2:So I said bro's hair looked like goro from mortal kombat yeah, exactly, yep yep, the fact that they taped it in the fifth or sixth shows that, yeah, it's bothering me. Then they taped it and, like we said about the oshaki hair, now it turned to like paper mache. Yo, oshaki's friend actually, I, I mess. I met him at fights once. It's like a friend from him from high school, like one of his boys. I told him like bro, you gotta tell him to cut that hair. He goes oh my god, I know it's getting away from the money like yeah get this money out, you out, you got to get in the.
Speaker 2:And that goes for NFL players too, when they have the dreads outside the helmet and you can get it pulled. Bro, cut your fucking hair that shit got to hurt.
Speaker 3:Bro, the nastiest dreads on the planet are David Diamante's, bro. That shit's gross.
Speaker 2:Oh, disgusting. Remember we were talking. I was like oh, I wish you said you were like farting. He was farting and he was like oh, I wish I could send you smells. My farts are crazy right now. And I was like, oh, I wish I could send you smells. I would have sent you Diamante's hair.
Speaker 3:I even have a meme about it. Like when you get a whiff of Diamante's dreads and it's just like a dude throwing up.
Speaker 2:That guy went to his own bar and hung out for like five seconds, remember we saw?
Speaker 1:I heard he's an asshole, yeah, I was listening to, like I was watching, like the old fights. I'll tell you, I was watching all the old fights.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, willie's going on like a YouTube history tour. I like that, fuck yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'm listening. I don't know the announcer name. It was already announced that that was repeating names. Know the announcer name? It was already an announcer. That was repeating names. You know how he'd be? Diamante would be like oh, davis, davis or something like that. Somebody was already doing that back in the day.
Speaker 2:Oh, really yes.
Speaker 1:Oh, I thought that was his own. I gotta get that announcer name. That's crazy. He really stole that. He stole that announcer. That announcer was doing that shit. He was repeating that shit twice. I don't know what he was doing.
Speaker 2:Go find that That'd be funny. What the hell, Diamante, you thief.
Speaker 3:Who the fuck was that goofball announcing last night?
Speaker 2:The Jake Paul card. I don't even know. I've never seen that guy before in my life. I kept thinking of the Joker.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because you were in a purple suit.
Speaker 2:He had a purple suit on. I could not not think of the joker, the announcer on the jake paul card. Oh no, he was tall as fuck too, that guy. Yeah, he's big as shit. Uh, scott sly says the lights got to griffin. You could see it on the walkout. Yeah, dude, he thinks he's like a rock star which, whatever he's making money, I don't care how you dress, whatever you need to be confident as a boxer too.
Speaker 1:That can't go.
Speaker 2:I don't know If you were to saw this guy. Everybody there thought he dapped up Terrence Crawford and were like he must be a famous rapper.
Speaker 1:You look good. You play good, they pay good.
Speaker 2:He's just not big. Think about it. He signs with MVP, saying yeah, yeah, he's just not big. Now, dude, think about it. He signs with MVP, which is a great promotion.
Speaker 1:They're great for promotion. He was supposed to show out bro, he got everything, he got everything.
Speaker 2:Where was that fight? I forget the Toyota Center. Where is it? Honda Center, honda Center. I think that's where the Ducks play in hockey.
Speaker 1:They sold it out and it was the highest gate ever there, since, like Ryan Garcia or some shit.
Speaker 2:And he just signed you. It's the highest gate ever because of Jake fucking Paul and you do that, so I just want him to get a little hungrier. Sometimes you got to go back to the basics, yeah, and I think that's really why Julian Rodriguez won. And you are right, it was two guys nobody really ever heard of.
Speaker 3:Well, I posted it on my story. After the fight I said I want to see Julian Rodriguez fight Rashidi Ellis. Yeah, yeah, rashidi Ellis shared it. Yeah, I don't want to get it too off because I'll go on a soapbox for Rashidi Ellis, but the fact that that dude's not getting fights is fucking bullshit. And fans bring up like oh, he lost to Villa, he's trash Like if he was trash, people would fight him. Yeah, because he's got a recognizable name.
Speaker 1:I think I've just seen him on like Wednesday Night Fight system.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he did a co-promotion with that dude, mill City Boxing, like that's who his fight was promoted by. No, don't, like, no, like. I'm not trying to shit on Mill City Boxing. You know they do a known podcast, but rashidi ellis is good enough to where he should be on these cards, not on a fight card co-promoted by a podcast like he's a top 15 at worst welterweight and the way welterweight sent. Now I'd say he's top 10. He beat the shit out of alexis rocha. He would beat the shit out of the guy that beat Rocha. What's his name? The dude Norman knocked out. I don't think he beats Norman, but I think he'd give Norman a fucking good fight.
Speaker 2:That's my guy. Shit Santion.
Speaker 3:Santion Giovanni, santion Rashidi would beat Santion Rashidi would beat a lot of guys at 147, and they just don't give him the fight, like he has nothing To do with this weekend. I just brought it up Because I posted that. Yeah, I just wanted to get that out there. Like give Rashidi Ellis A big fucking fight, bro. What promotion is he with? I don't know, because he's like he was on PBC Lost to Villa.
Speaker 3:They, they didn't give him shit else after that. Then he was having to fight in the fucking team combat league, which is probably going away soon, by the way, because they don't want to fucking pay people. They're going to get hit with a lawsuit Throwing that out there too. Pieces of shit. Tcl, really, yeah, dude, they had this one guy. They had a uniform designer make $100,000 worth of trunks for their shit. He had to take out loans to make it. Yeah, yeah, stayed up for days making them. They didn't fucking pay him, really, yeah. And they have contracts with other people that they don't fulfill and they just take the money and then leave them on red.
Speaker 2:They're going to get hit with a lawsuit Because we interviewed someone and they said that they pay. Well, that's why people keep going there, because I do notice some names. They pay the fighters. Yeah, good, they pay the fighters. Well, not to kill your rant, but that's what they so you're talking about.
Speaker 1:they're not paying the miscellaneous people, the behind-the-scenes type.
Speaker 3:People who devote their life to boxing, just like the boxers do, people who took a risk following a career path in this sport, and you're fucking them over.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got to pay, everybody, everybody's got to pay, but that's, that's also the stuff people don't see hey worth the fucking trump that's. That's like what people don't see, like some people think non-boxing fans are like oh, he made x amount of money on that fight, but the boxer himself, right and now, with fashion being involved in boxing, he's got to pay. The shoe guy he's got to pay. The shirt guy, he's got to pay. But speaking of all that, right, everybody, they have to pay.
Speaker 3:Uh, I'm kind of getting off topic here and yeah, my bad dude, I totally derailed, this shit.
Speaker 2:No, no it's all good, I don't care, um, it's all boxing related, so I don't give a fuck, uh. But speaking of that, right, there's something I want to say and I kind of want to chop it up after and blast it out here, and you could piggyback me on this. And we're all affiliated with the company. Me and Willie got affiliated by accident and it's thanks for playing right, thanks for playing shirt company. You have the shirt on now. Ironically enough, we didn't plan this, but there's a message that that they do, and it goes in in with what he just said, like they don't ask for money from the fighters and they make shirts from fighters. And if you could just real quick and I don't want to bore the listeners or whatever, I do want to chop this up though elaborate on that, because I feel like that message needs to get out there. Yeah, for sure that like.
Speaker 3:That's one of the main reasons I started when they asked me to recruit fighters for them, because I believe in what they're doing. It's easy for me. I like the product. They make nice shirts, as you know, but then the shirts sell for $40, which is like damn. I like watching Tiger Johnson fight. This shirt looks kind of cool, but do I want to pay $40 for it? And it's a tough economy. But it costs $15 to make the shirt. Right, that's how much it costs. Total to make each shirt, with all the costs included, is about $15 a shirt 40 minus 15 is 25. That's the cut that goes to the fighter. So whenever they sell a fighter shirt, thanks for playing. It makes zero sense on it.
Speaker 2:The fighters make the money, so that that's something to be said Like we love. The shirts are great and we're not like sponsored by them. We don't have any, you know what I mean? We just they sent us shirts once. We're like oh, we like your stuff. They linked us with you and we became friends now for a year right, about a year and a half and here we are. The shirts are great.
Speaker 1:I got. One of my favorite shirts is a Naya Inouye shirt.
Speaker 2:I have from them. My tank hoodie is really nice. Yeah, the tank hoodie. The fighters get the money, though. The fighters that they sign for the fights, they get the money. And that's something to be said, because boxing, the business of boxing, is a dirty game, dude, and I just wanted to get that out there for anyone listening.
Speaker 3:Even that, collection they're letting me come out with with the retro fighters. We're going to sell them for $45,. But the fighters I don't want to spoil it because I'm excited to announce it, but I want it to be a surprise Because it's going to be a whole thing, throwback fighters that only real fans would know and we're going to sell those for $45. Fighter gets $25. That way we can at least make $5 a profit on the shirt. That way we can keep doing this to promote the fighters now.
Speaker 2:And not only that, though the shirts are awesome.
Speaker 1:That's great for the fucking retro, the old fighters. They probably need the money too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I only have one fighter confirmed right now, but it's sick, sick, he'll tell you, sick.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you all fair but Sick. Sly says thanks for playing, sent me a free shirt. That's why I promote them anywhere I go Good quality. I buy their stuff all the time For real. You know what their shirts remind me of and you see a lot of it now on Instagram. Like everybody makes shirts, so that's what makes Thanks for Playing. Different is that the fighters get the money. They don't make money on them. The owner correct me if I'm wrong. Punch is just a boxing fan that wanted to do this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he has a whole other apparel company that he makes his money off of. He loves boxing and he wanted to make cool stuff for boxers. He eventually wants to make money off of Thanks for Playing but in all honesty it's not profitable right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the fighters get the money from the shirts so they could kind of push the shirts themselves too to make money. So it's kind of a cool concept and, as actual nerd fight fans, it's awesome. It's awesome to see I go a lot.
Speaker 1:These shirts is like good fellas.
Speaker 3:Willie.
Speaker 2:I just messaged you a picture of the first throwback shirt that we're doing. Yeah, suspense, if you made it this far, get willie's reaction. I gotta make one more drink and stand up, because my hemorrhoids do your thing um, and then we'll, we'll, we'll, uh, keep it pushing um, and then we'll try to. I don't know what time we're at now, but yo, oh, we're at an hour. We're at an hour. Fuck it yo. But yeah, talk to Willie real quick.
Speaker 1:I was literally about to watch his documentary. I was watching all the back. Nah, I'm not, that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Hey, sly, because you're commenting, I'm going to send you a picture of the shirt. Will, but you can't fucking tell anybody.
Speaker 1:Damn bro. I wanted to say something, but it's just like that.
Speaker 3:It's so hard for me to sit on this because I'm so excited.
Speaker 1:I wish I never even knew. I should have just waited.
Speaker 3:For that I won't tell you the other guys that were close. We're going to make a sample for him and that's when he's going to decide whether or not he so he could. That's at a minute or an hour, and five minutes. Yeah, I accidentally said it. I let the goddamn cat out the bag.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this guy. Nah, that's elite, bro, congratulations.
Speaker 3:I'm going to get a motherfucker killed, bro.
Speaker 1:Congratulations though. Thanks, bro, Congratulations I'm going to get a motherfucker killed, bro Yo.
Speaker 3:Congratulations though. Oh thanks, dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the other fighters we got, that I'm talking to, I'm really excited about too, they're not as popular as him, but if you're a real boxing fan, there's zero chance you don't know who they are. We talking about skill.
Speaker 3:What that's, james Damn, I almost said it too, that's fine, so legendary, so legendary that a specific move in boxing is accredited to him. You know they'll say like oh well, this guy actually has it better. But then when that guy who they say has it better tells you he's like well, I learned mine from him and just adapted it, I got a key I got a question for y'all I'm back, by the way I got a question for y'all who's?
Speaker 1:back who who's who's signature punch was the suzy q oh, I don't know that one.
Speaker 3:That's a good trivia question. I've never I've it.
Speaker 1:I wanted to come with a list because I've been watching these documentaries I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 2:That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Rocky, oh Rocky, really.
Speaker 3:Marciano or Graziano.
Speaker 1:I think now I'm confused. Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 2:Rocky Balboa? No, so is he the Marciano.
Speaker 1:Yes, he's the Marciano. Yes, he's the Ad Marciano. Yeah, he's that. Look. Sly even knew he looked.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, he's Marciano Right there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I never knew that one, yeah okay, really, yeah, yo, speaking of Rocky Marciano, bro, it's a fake jab over here on the right. Okay, suzy Q, if I get back in training. I got to teach the kids that.
Speaker 2:What do you mean if?
Speaker 1:I haven't been.
Speaker 2:You mean when?
Speaker 1:Yeah, when Fat ass. Yeah, I am getting fat bro.
Speaker 2:Nah, all right, we're already an hour in my ass is fucking tender. Let's fucking try to keep it moving. This is fucking tender. Let's fucking try to keep it moving. This is what happens.
Speaker 3:You want to talk about the Curiel fight?
Speaker 2:Because that fight was after the I don't know who that dude was.
Speaker 3:He fought. I barely know Curiel. I just know him from the Rocha fight.
Speaker 1:Whose nickname is the Browns Bomber? Oh, Joe Lewis Browns Bomber. No, he's the.
Speaker 2:Brown Bomber. Browns Bomber is wilder, he's the brown bomber. Brown bomber Brown is wilder, joe Louis. That's my favorite old school fighter. Come on, Willie All right. Stay on track asshole my bad, my bad.
Speaker 1:I'm watching my documentary tomorrow. Yeah, good, good that works.
Speaker 2:Yo, that's what like in the winter, that's like when it's like snowing or whatever, and there's nothing throw on. There's a lot of cool YouTube content creators for documentaries. That's one really cool thing about the old heads that are good with cameras and they know they have personal stories.
Speaker 1:I didn't know. He died in a fucking plane crash, yeah.
Speaker 2:Joe Louis' son is a really good golfer too. That's sick.
Speaker 3:I just found a sick YouTube channel where he tells whatever happened to college football player videos. I've been crushing those lately, just like at the gym. I just listened.
Speaker 2:Like whatever happened to toby gerhardt, like whatever happened to go to those guys you'd never like another one like vince young.
Speaker 1:Remember him oh yeah, yo sunny listen fucking oh, sunny listen story is nuts all right, hold on.
Speaker 2:We got to talk about this Curiel fella, my bad. So yeah, same thing, same thing. The fight was kind of boring too, and then it wasn't so good for him.
Speaker 3:I didn't think it was boring. I just thought it was just two Hispanic guys fucking it was a fun Hispanic fight. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:You know what made it boring to me? It was the announcing. They were announcing, they were like, oh, you know this, they're not heating it up yet and I'm like, oh yeah, they kind of had me duped. I'm like they're not, they're not heating it up yet and then all of a sudden, boom ko, and that's got power. Man, yeah and uh, I know where you're gonna go with this and I want you to take it away. Punchlines, because we talked about it. You have a little conspiracy theory of what went on after that fight with who certain call outs.
Speaker 3:I don't have a conspiracy theory. It might be a theory, it could be wrong, but I have fucking proof. Now, boy, everybody who said I was wrong. But after that, when, when Oscar called out he's like we want rollies for curio, yeah, I was like that doesn't make any sense, that's not going to happen. Pbc is not gonna do a cross promotion with golden boy to fight fucking curiel because that fight doesn't isn't gonna sell. And then oscar ryan's like going after oscar crashing out posting his fishnet pictures, saying fuck, golden boy promotion and all that.
Speaker 2:I thought that was that was cool. I like what, yeah, but immediately I'm like this is fake.
Speaker 3:I was like right, ryan and roly are for sure rematching them. And then I reached out to somebody and they're like oh yeah, like I know the date, I know everything yeah, and I'll send the picture.
Speaker 2:So. So you're saying that's gonna happen. That's what I was told.
Speaker 3:Garcia, ryan garcia versus roly too yeah, by somebody very close to one of them. Okay, very close to one of them.
Speaker 2:Okay, very close to one of them. Awesome, awesome to hear.
Speaker 1:I'm here for that and I'm backing my guy, roland After that picture, that fishnet picture, then you're going to see Berlinga posted.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was wrong about Devin and TO I was clinging to that one. I was like I don't believe it, but then Devin's fight got announced today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, demond's fighting Brian. Yeah, we hate on Webby, we hate on.
Speaker 3:Bill. But that motherfucker, don't duck smoke bro.
Speaker 1:He is bugged the fuck out though.
Speaker 2:Wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're putting a cart in front of the horse right now.
Speaker 2:Everybody wait, everybody wait. Stay on Curio, yeah, so what is next for Curio? Then you think Either. Rocha rem rematch, because that shit was a draw and they're both on golden boy. Rocha just won recently too.
Speaker 3:So yeah, yeah, so that?
Speaker 3:or the guy who beat griffin, who fought right before him, yeah yeah, I'm backing that guy rodriguez yeah, I forget his name I would like one of them to fight rashidi, like I said, but I think I think Curiel is going to fight Roach again. And the only reason Oscar called out Rollies was to throw off Sniff for the Ryan rematch. But it's also like because he's had back and forth with Rollies all the time, so Rollies is probably going to say some shit. It's just to get Curiel like. The same way. Willie called it out earlier that Jake Paul is smart for calling these names out. That's called it out earlier that jake paul is smart for calling these names out. That's all oscar's doing. He's getting people to talk about curiel. Fight roly. That's all he's doing. He's promoting this guy?
Speaker 2:do you think oscar's smart enough to know that, like jake paul?
Speaker 3:clearly yes, yeah, he is yeah, dude, because I he's been in this game a long time. Yeah, true, he's been promoting a long time, like I feel like he's smart enough true, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I just I feel like sometimes I don't know. What does bernard hopkins do for oscar? Does anyone know? Talk shit, that's about it.
Speaker 3:Okay, fat, just talk shit to people.
Speaker 1:Tries to fight in bathrooms yeah, they probably fight each other still all right, we're, we're gonna keep it rolling.
Speaker 2:Now I'm gonna try and speed things up a little bit, because when it goes over an hour it just gets a little weirder and people don't really listen. That besides this dude slot, you know sly tendencies, bro, you, you are, yo shout out to y'all sly you are. You haven't even gotten to the tevin fight, bro. I know I know that was the main one. That was why I watched this Jake Paul card. But shout out to Sly, underscore tendencies 87. Dude has been with us from the get-go.
Speaker 3:His name is Jesse. I don't know if he wants that out there, but his name is Jesse.
Speaker 2:All right, well, jesse Sly, jesse, dm me your address and stuff and I'm going to send you some Spar in merch and I'm a man of my word with that. I send it all over the place. But uh, sly, for real, send that in. Thanks for listening and lasting this long floyd showfield versus tevin farmer. Someone who did not last that long, let's get into it, man, this one hurt my soul I wasn't expecting that, bro, for real.
Speaker 1:That boy Floyd knocked his damn eye straight, damn.
Speaker 2:Come on man.
Speaker 1:Come on, leave him alone.
Speaker 3:That's not as bad as what Tank said after the fight. What'd he say? He's like I ain't got that twitchy shit Tevin got. I'll beat Buddy's ass. It's like damn dude.
Speaker 2:Yo, real quick. This guy, sly, said my name is herb, beaver smells, so her beaver smells. That's a good one, all right. What does it smell like, sly anyway? Um, floyd schofields versus tevin farmer. I fucking love tevin farmer man. There's a pay to fight. I've always been a fan of his, but the pay to fight's really, really opened my eyes. I didn't think this was going to happen. Only because I didn't think the second Zepeda fight, tevin Farmer was going to show up like he did At his age, his boxing age, his wear and tear. He's a weathered dude. I didn't think a second time versus Zepeda, after performing so good the first time, he would be able to show up again, and he did and I should have put that into my calculations.
Speaker 3:Like I don't think he could show up now to this one his last three fights had been 36 rounds of competitive fighting with two guys that in most people's rankings are top five in the weight class, because he fought moritaya before. Yeah, yeah, moritaya is another one and a lot. I thought farmer won that fight.
Speaker 2:when I watched and he has been in tough decisions too I mean I I disagreed with him in as a pay to fight. The first one, specifically, was more close. The second one, I thought farmer did lose, uh, pretty significantly, but he still was dogging it out. The dude came, came out and said I have Tourette's and he was like, ah, everyone's asking me why I do this weird shit with my eyes and shit, I have Tourette's and I like that, like dude, good for you. He should have did it years ago because we've been talking about it a while, like what the fuck's wrong with him. I think when he fought Ortiz I was like what's?
Speaker 1:He still got a shorty though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, joey, she's a supporter, she's a fucking supporter, and she's a real one, she's a real one.
Speaker 1:Picked up his chin when he was down. You know what I'm saying. Who's your chin up?
Speaker 2:This show and this segment is not about Tevin Farmer and we have to give credit where credit's due, because he proved the boxing world wrong. Kid Austin has arrived and ducking Shakur the way he did distill up in the air we don't know if he was actually sick or what happened Shakur called it. He said he's not going to fight me. He got his get back and he was very emotional in the ring after he was teared up and it was good to see, no matter how annoying his dad is. Props to you, kid Austin.
Speaker 3:You are now man, austin, you are adult austin, whatever you want to fucking call yourself yeah, it's good the fact that we have like, because before that it was he was getting, you know, social media hype and that's why people wanted to see him in these top fights, but he hadn't but like this fight, proving that he does deserve to be up there. It's good, bro, we need that. We need young popular fighters who are good and I like I'm glad we have that and I'm a hater of the dude because of his dad. Yeah, and when the motherfucker will never just let his son do an interview, every time he's on his always like right here loud loud.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, like he's like another bill, like you know yeah, literally yeah, but it's almost.
Speaker 3:it's common to like Sean Porter. A lot of people usually hate on Sean because of Kenny, even though Kenny was nowhere near as bad as Floyd Spofield's dad. But Sean, good fighter, good man, good dude. And I think I feel the same way about Kid bro, because you hear him talk, he's a nice guy.
Speaker 2:Well-spoken, genuine dude. And bro, he's fucking jacked that dude yeah, he is that dude's hard.
Speaker 3:Oscar wasn't lying when he said he's like one of the hardest working dudes in the sport. He's always. All his videos are just of him in the gym. It's not him like at the beach or with his shit.
Speaker 2:It's him in the gym.
Speaker 3:He's a jersey kid too technically, so he's a ripped hell yeah uh and I felt bad for him because he was, like, legitimately depressed after that shakur fight. You know it's hard to blame him. Like bro you, you've missed out on the opportunity of a lifetime and I was hating.
Speaker 2:I still don't think he got sick. I think his team came behind him and was like hey man, uh, we, we can't have let this fight happen right now, in this point in your career. And if you look at it, it kind of worked out because let this fight happen right now, at this point in your career. And if you look at it, it kind of worked out Because now this fight happened and he just catapulted his stardom. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I think that's why they took this fight, because Tevin is just that same style.
Speaker 2:And I knew Floyd had a chance versus Tevin. I just didn't think in the first fucking round.
Speaker 3:No, In a minute and 18 seconds, wasn't it?
Speaker 1:look, I'm fucking double dabbing a right just like he hurt him bad bro.
Speaker 2:He hit that like backhand hook and like it was a blind spot and I'm not talking about tevin's eyes, but it was like a block. I hit him in a blind spot and I'm like holy shit, it was like a weird angled backhand. I can't even fucking explain it yo, I was yo sly.
Speaker 1:I was just about to say that shit, his fucking voice is soft as hell. He's like yo floyd's dad, he's what do you say? He sound like kind of zesty as hell. That's what he said.
Speaker 2:He said floyd's dad is another one of these zesty-ass Puff Daddy wannabes all up in the rap video. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And he's like. Another reason that people don't like him so much is because he called out people like Abdullah Mason. He's like yeah, we want the Abdullah Mason fight and he's like but we want two and a half million for it. It's like bro, get the fuck out of here. That's like pay-per-view main event money.
Speaker 2:That's Jake Paul money Jake.
Speaker 3:Paul's money. Get the fuck out of here with that.
Speaker 1:No, but it's great that he's so young and explosive and being that young and winning the way he did.
Speaker 2:he needed that mental boost and he's technical. Yeah, and you saw the raw emotion. He came off a tough fight where he got sparked a few times the fight before the Shakur announcement. I remember watching that like damn, this dude's getting sparked up in the back half of the fight and then the Shakur fight gets announced and I'm like, oh man, shakur is wrong for him right now at this point in his career.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was Shakur sexual. I shakur is wrong for everybody, but that's just me but, but specifically, style wise shakur.
Speaker 2:Really, really, when you, when you're like a boxer puncher versus another box like shakur is an expert boxer style wise, he's gonna, he's gonna make you look stupid. You know what I'm saying and which is why there's a pay to fight is intriguing, because Zepeda's style is fucking 100 punches around. You know what I mean. Yeah, floyd's Floyd Schofield style is more of a cliche boxing style. Really good at it, athletic, strong power in both hands. I think Shakur at this point in Floyd's career would have picked him apart.
Speaker 3:So who do you want to see him fight next? Then that's a good.
Speaker 2:So I think, honestly, think I don't, I don't honestly, I don't, it's tough, it's tough. Uh, I want him to get a belt shot. I think the way tevin farmer performed verse uh, what's his face? Zerto, not zerto. Um. The way tevin farmer performed verse uh, what's his name? The, the guy Shakur's fighting, zepeda, zepeda. I'm sorry, all these fucking Zs, zepeda. The way he performed versus Zepeda, this Tevin, you know every pundit and every guy that watches fucking boxing was I put almost $300 on Farmer. Everybody was backing Farmer in this fight. Based off what we know about Floyd.
Speaker 1:He can fight. He might get that Abdullah Mason fight.
Speaker 2:He might get that.
Speaker 1:He might get that Because that belt is vacant.
Speaker 2:I don't think they're going to Promotion wise.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think Abdullah is going to fight Noakes, bro, yeah.
Speaker 1:Somebody got to get the title right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, that's going to be for the title, because they're the top two ranked guys in that weight class.
Speaker 2:I don't know, though, what do you think is next, honestly, if Shakur dismantles Zepeda or not Zepeda. If Shakur dismantles Zepeda, right Right, just his typical outboxes him, works him. I'm not saying knock him out, but just destroys him, right Right. I'm okay with Floyd now getting the Shakur going after Shakur, and I'm sure Shakur is okay with it too, and Turkey said he has, like, he made that tweet.
Speaker 3:He's like oh, if Berlanga and Zepeda win, it's going to derail our plans because we have big plans for Shiraz and Shakur plans for Shiraz and Shakur. So I don't know how big his plans are for Shakur. I don't know if Floyd I mean obviously he had, he wanted that fight to happen anyway because he scheduled it for that big card in February but I don't know if that's still Turkey's plan for him. I still like a guy he was supposed to fight last year. I would like to see him fight Lucas body to do that. Knocked out Ashton Sylve. Yeah, fight Lucas body to do that knocked out Ashton, sylve, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Or here's another one. Say, say, shakur beats Zepeda, right, it goes 12 and he just destroys him, right. I'm okay with Zepeda versus Schofield and then a Shakur fight.
Speaker 3:I think they want Zepeda to fight Andy Cruz or or I saw that I forgot about Andy Cruz or him. It's a good yeah, there's a lot of guys on that DAZN side. He could fight.
Speaker 1:You know what? Why Turkey is on Shiraz. Nobody want to see him.
Speaker 2:No, bro, shiraz, I don't think Shiraz, nobody want to see him.
Speaker 1:He's not ruining nobody's pants, I think.
Speaker 3:Turkey's. The fact that Turkey's trying so hard to promote that guy and force him on us, especially after how that whole Adamas thing went down. He's actually backfiring. He's doing a disservice to Shiraz. He's making him more popular, but he's making him less likable at the same time.
Speaker 1:It feels like Nobody want to see him.
Speaker 2:Sly says that Floyd earned WBA mandatory last night with the win WBA who's W the win WBA who's?
Speaker 3:WBA, that's Tank.
Speaker 2:That's Tank. Uh-oh, oh shit.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, he ain't getting that fight.
Speaker 2:They're not going to do it Like PBC is not going to do a crossover for Tank. Nah, you do it on their terms, and I don't think Schofield's big enough to get Tank. I think Tank's days are numbered, not because he's not skilled, just he's going to make a lot of money and he's next through three fights and be like I'm out of here.
Speaker 2:He's done Ben had a foot out the door. Yeah, he's pretty much. I think he's going to show up in this. We'll preview that when it comes, we should go back to Diamante's for that too.
Speaker 1:Actually, we should go back to Diamante's for that too, actually Back there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want to talk about that.
Speaker 3:Never mind, we don't have time, what we have time Remember when I told you that fighter got pulled out of a certain fighter's training camp for beating the shit out of him. Oh yeah, yeah he might be on that Tank Roach card now anyway, which is good.
Speaker 2:But when I found, yeah, just hold that thought, because I'm going to get there, I have a little section rumor reveal around.
Speaker 3:Barrios. Ah shit, there's a reason I didn't say names bro.
Speaker 2:We can edit that out. We got five of us in this 124.
Speaker 3:Just remember that.
Speaker 2:105 and 124. I that 105, yeah, I got you I got you my man, my man that's tequila is fucking good man. Shout out to el jaguar tequila, whatever the fuck, alma del jaguar bro, I got fucked up last night, dude.
Speaker 3:I woke up feeling like all right, let's stick to boxing.
Speaker 2:We could talk about our stupid lives later. Um, yeah, that that's really it. Hey, floyd Schofield, now Sky's the limit Props to you. You owe me $300. That being said, there was no other cards going on. We don't got really a lot of previews Next week's show. We have a shitload of previews, but we do have some drama and some announcements. I have one last fight to go over.
Speaker 3:That's okay. Yeah, okay, because I have one last fight to go over. That's okay. Yeah, okay, because another guy fought this weekend.
Speaker 2:I could do this all day. My hemorrhoid already popped, so I'm good.
Speaker 3:God, dude, what, how do you do this, willie?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 3:Bro, but, another fighter fought this weekend.
Speaker 2:I'm out Lost and retired, coming from the most vulgar fucking wild animal. What are you talking about? Oh, are you talking about who we were both shocked was fighting?
Speaker 3:Yeah, dude, when I messaged you I was like this guy's fighting yeah.
Speaker 2:I actually, when I was typing up some notes for this, I was like holy shit, he got his ass beat and retired John Pascal bro. John Pascal is finally done. It's gene pascal he. He was a light heavyweight, right, or was he a middle. I think it was at cruiserweight this weekend, okay. Okay, I think he was light heavy and then went to cruiser, was known for his power canadian fighter we. He just kind of tested positive for every steroid in the book and just fell off the face of the earth.
Speaker 3:Yeah, who was he supposed to fight when he tested for all that shit? It was Badou Jack. It was the rematch. Yep, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think before that he beat someone so bad, wasn't it Brown? Yeah, brown, you're right, my guy. I thought Brown was going to be so good bro. Yeah, me too, me too. But you know, ish happens. Yo, we have six viewers on the YouTube Blowing up. That's the most we've ever had.
Speaker 2:Jake Ginsburg said happy face, happy face, cry, laugh, cry, laugh. This guy's sly. Oh, it was last night. That's weird. Oh it was. It was probably in a weird place. But yeah, it's probably in a weird place. But yeah, gene Pascal retired.
Speaker 2:We already thought he was retired. So not much to say there. We have time. You watch the fight, fuck, no, all right. So not much to say there. He was good, he was powerful, but it turns out he was on the juice. Speaking of juice, let's get into the news and notes and try to wrap this up, because my ass is bleeding. You farting over there? I think nobody. I think no, no, no. This is the roid, bro, it's this. It's lloyd the hemorrhoid man. Gross, ah, shut up. Um.
Speaker 2:Haney versus norman jr was announced. Kind of broke the internet after the floyd schofield devin farmer internet breaking itself and the UFC internet breaking Haney versus Norman jr. Listen, we kind of alluded to it earlier. Uh, I, I'm a Devin Haney kind of hater because he's like annoying me now and obviously I'm a Tio sexual, so he's anti Tiafimo, I'm pro Tiafimo, so of course I'm going to naturally hate Devin Haney. I have to give Haney his credit and I don't want to jump the gun. Just because something's announced in boxing and you all can attest to this doesn't mean it's going to happen. It's like a 50-50 chance still to me. If this fight actually happens and speaking of internet breaking, he goes on and fights Brian Norman Jr. Win or lose. Haney's stock rises. It'll be his first real fight at 147. Welterweight, I can't take anything away from him or Bill, I gotta give them all their props Big if this fight happens. It's not set in stone yet. I don't know why this fight will happen and there's a lot of like you wouldn't want to tune up at 147?.
Speaker 1:Devin don't even want to take a punch right now. He's still seeing ghosts. I don't think he should be fighting this fight. You see what happened to the last person at four.
Speaker 2:And there's another point I want to make.
Speaker 1:You see what Brian did to the last fighter. When he said next Friday, he said what. You see what happened to the security guard.
Speaker 2:You know what happened to the last security guard. I want to. I want to make a point too, like speaking of dads, though. Like did you see? Uh, what was it? The boxing? Is it what?
Speaker 3:was that, oh, when brian, norman senior and bill were going at it on the boxing voice you know, bill got checked.
Speaker 2:The boxing voice. Shout out to them. It's like the first ever viral boxing podcast. I disagree with a lot of shit they say, but shout out to them. I think they're out of New York too, or used to be. Yeah, they're in Vegas now. Okay, oh, they made it. God damn it. That's our goal, guys, us three. Fuck, we're going to have a threesome in Vegas. In regards to the podcast, you pervert Willie Brian Norman Jr's dad I don't know his name. It got a little silent there.
Speaker 3:Well, if Brian Norman Jr.
Speaker 2:Is named Brian.
Speaker 1:Norman Jr.
Speaker 2:What's his dad's name? Brian?
Speaker 1:Norman.
Speaker 2:Brian Norman Sr Sunned.
Speaker 3:good old Bill Haney, we're gonna fucking step over you, and then I'm gonna tell him to go to your corner and tell you you ain't shit that was fire, and you could see in Haney's.
Speaker 2:You could see in Haney's Bill Haney's face a little bit. He's like he shut the fuck up for a second.
Speaker 3:finally, silence.
Speaker 1:Silence dude he's like oh shit, I didn't know the young boy from Georgia was about that life for me, yeah, like good for him.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know he kind of needed that and I just hope this fight does happen and props to Bill for letting his son fight this fight.
Speaker 1:I think he probably scared the shit out of him after that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, for real.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think. So I really don't think this fight's going to happen, though I don't think this fight's going to happen, though. I don't think the Haney's are. Devin doesn't even want to take a punch right now. I don't think the Haney's are. After what Ryan Garcia did to Haney, I still don't think they're ready for at 147, something like that.
Speaker 3:Why'd you get canceled this week? And then they announced Devin versus TO again.
Speaker 1:I'm going to still cling to it. I'm going to fucking lose it.
Speaker 2:I. I hope that fight happens. I'm ready. Tio is definitely cooking up something. He's coming up with something soon. I might be in those DMs. You know, might be in them DMs a little bit. Let's send him some feet pics, but.
Speaker 1:Past my fucking bedtime. Yeah, all right, we'll keep it moving.
Speaker 2:So Brian Norman Jr's dad, brian Sr, fucking sons the shit out of Bill Haney, which was good to see Speaking of Tiafimo. He was just in camp with the Vargas brothers and a special someone that we're going to fight preview soon Manny Pacquiao. You may have heard of him. You may not have heard of him. Did you guys see that?
Speaker 1:I've seen that there's a whole bunch of them it was like they was running on mountains and shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the Vargas's were out there and everything yeah, there was a few.
Speaker 2:I think Brandon Lee might have been out there. I think I saw Brandon Lee. I could be wrong, it might have just been another Asian, but uh, I don't know. I thought I thought I saw Lee, but that was cool to see, you know. And props to Pacquiao. Pacquiao looks kind of in shape. He's doing his thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you don't look the same though, bro. He's noticeably old.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and again, I don't want to name drop. I think Pacquiao, though, has some info or intel on what's going on in his opponent's life or camp. Maybe, and you know.
Speaker 3:Well, okay, so the dude's dead, we're going for it. Yeah, I don't care, bro, I love Mario. Everybody knows that we're going for it.
Speaker 2:I wish.
Speaker 3:Big Name Fighter to really give me a break.
Speaker 2:Right, we have some real, real fucking news here.
Speaker 3:I work for Thanks for playing. I work for Adams. I got this kid signed to both of them, so I wouldn't say he's my client, because that's not a correct term, but essentially, if I recruit you to two companies, I work for you. So this is the way I view it. Kid's only 19, 18-time amateur champion southpaw, lives in Vegas, so it's easy to get him to another gym in Vegas, gets brought in to spar with him With who?
Speaker 3:He's? With Mario, and he was supposed to fight on the Barrios card as well. He was supposed to be in the early premiums of that and we have his shirt done and everything. So I message his dad, because I deal with his dad, I don't deal with him. But I was like, hey, uh, I got the shirt, I'm ready to post it, and we always post the picture of the fight poster that they're fighting on so you can like, kind of like promote their fight as well. And I just messaged his dad. I was like, hey, just confirming before I post this, you guys, you guys are on the 19th right, you're on the Pacquiao card.
Speaker 2:Dad calls me immediately Before you go there. Before you go there, cause I don't want to like let this podcast dismantle anything or business transactions or whatever. It's okay to state this I don't. I.
Speaker 3:I don't, I don't, I don't know, cause it's not in the public knowledge yet. Why, ask his dad? I was like if you want me to put this news out there, with the pages that I'm cool with, he's like yeah, do it.
Speaker 2:Okay, so it's on him. That's all. That's what I meant. So then it's on, it's on him.
Speaker 3:Okay, and according into an elevator with him because he was in la for that jake paul fight. He's like sean gibbons, pacquiao's manager, pitbull cruises manager. They were in an elevator together and he brought it up to him. All right, drop it. Because because dude was tuning him up in sparring and he's way smaller, he fights at lightweight. What's his name? What's the guy? And he was.
Speaker 3:The rumor is he was tuning him up in sparring and then they kicked him out of camp and then a manager called his dad the next day and he's like by the way, we're not, we're not gonna have you on the card anymore either. So he got taken off the card. That's fucked up, bro. He's only 19 years old, bro. That's how they get paid and, yeah, that's how you get their name known because, like I know, not everybody shows up for the early prelim, especially in vegas. They wait till like the fucking main event. But still, there's gonna be. There's gonna be more people in an empty where's that fight t-mobile arena. Then there would be at his little pro box cards or these little mvp orlando side cards that he does on fridays.
Speaker 2:So according to his dad. Let me get this straight. According to his dad, they kicked him out of camp because he was messing up mario barrios in sparring. Yes, according to the dad yes, oh my goodness that is insane yeah, so so I, I was team barry. I'm not betting wise. I was going all in on barrios. Should I change my bet, willie? What do you?
Speaker 1:think I was going with manny. Anyway, it was sparring is sparring first of all?
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, and it was a few weeks ago apparently. It wasn't like this week. It apparently was when Mario was still big, bigger, Kicked out of camp. Yeah, but that thing happens all the time, bro. I asked other people about it and they're like, yeah, somebody beat the shit out of Tank before one of his, before the Frank Martin fight, so they kicked him out.
Speaker 2:What's his name too? The guy that, like, killed his whole family, their stories and this kind of Edwin.
Speaker 3:Valero, yeah, beat the shit out of Oscar, who was in camp for Manny.
Speaker 2:Yeah For Manny Pacquiao, Edwin Valero.
Speaker 1:One of my Wait. They kick him out and then he killed his family.
Speaker 3:What Well, he was like a world champion and he couldn't get fights in America because of some criminal shit or his visa or something, so he could only fight in like Mexico and everything, but he was 27-0 with 27 knockouts or something like that.
Speaker 2:And very feared amongst everyone. And this is like boxing's golden era when Pacquiao really started to get not golden era, but when Pacquiao really started to rise and everybody feared him like everybody. There was like horror stories about him in sparring. And not to cut you off, I'm sorry, I'm just a big Edwin Valerio guy. Yeah, he's dope until he ended up killing his wife and himself. Yeah, and like he went like crazy against the government of his country. It was nuts.
Speaker 2:But so he was training with Oscar de la Hoya, he was one of his rotation in his rotation in sparring and rumor has it, but kind of confirmed he was like blacking up Oscar de la Hoya's eyes and like, yeah, may or may not have broke his nose or some shit. And like dude, edwin said he's like, yeah, I would go to that camp hung over, I would be there like a no sleep and so sleep. And so, uh, uh, sly just said valero threatened a ref during a fight. Dude, was insane, I'd be terrified if that guy's paying me and he had like a. He had that like latino mullet. Love that guy, not love what he does. But so, yeah, you're again alluding people get kicked out of camps all the time. You're absolutely right and uh, that that's known. But at that weight and you're facing manny pacquiao the prestige, whatever you're kind, you should be a favorite verse, pacquiao.
Speaker 3:And also to like I'm not. Like, don't take what I'm saying as gospel. I've heard one side of the story from the kid's dad, so there's obviously going to be a natural bias still there. So I don't know what happened, because I wasn't there and so far I haven't talked to anyone else about it. I'm just repeating what I was told.
Speaker 2:And based off our last segment, we know these dads get a little crazy about their kids in boxing Of course, bro, it's your child in a physical combative event you know like, of course. But damn, that's crazy. Changes, a lot of betting perspectives and again it's not set in stone. It's just what people say and there may or may not be some truth to it.
Speaker 1:That's a young man's life, man Not playing around with his livelihood already.
Speaker 2:Yeah, true, and you know what Shame on them.
Speaker 3:It's true, it is true, because I don't want to badmouth Mario, because I like Mario and I've known that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you've told me, you're a big Barrios fan.
Speaker 3:So it's not like I'm happy to share this news. I'm upset either way.
Speaker 1:Alright, the camp part. Okay, that shit happens, but you're going to take them off the fight? Yeah, that's crazy. How would they even have control of that?
Speaker 2:That? How would they even have control of that? That's crazy.
Speaker 3:We need to get Barrios on the show, because the manager whose name was dropped is pretty influential in the sport. The manager who told him they were taking him off the card.
Speaker 2:Let's try and hook up Barrios and get him on here.
Speaker 3:No, Not now. He's probably going to hate me now. So is Bob's team. I'm friends with Bob's son bob santo.
Speaker 2:So yeah, oh yeah, that was a whatever dude.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I hope it don't cost me nothing because I like those guys, you know, and I I'm not gonna wish bad on any of them. It just, if it's true to do that to a 19 year old kid, uh just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Bro, he's only got 10 fights and shit, like if the rumors are true.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, these are all rumors. We are a boxing podcast that just we see shit, we hear shit and we, we I guess I don't want to say report it. We're not really like journalists, but we just speak on it. We drink and speak on it. So here we are, speaking on what we heard. Um going forward. I am betting on pacquiao, though, but that's about. I think that's all I got. We're going to end the show with that. Next week we will be back. July heats up. There's a bunch of fights in July. We are coming to the end of June. We have went almost about two hours now. An hour and 40 minutes. My bad dude, I talk too much. No, it's cool because I get to yap in too minutes good, my bad dude, I talk too much.
Speaker 1:No, it's cool because I I get to yap in two willie's like yo. We started like a decent time seven o'clock, yeah, seven, that's why we started.
Speaker 2:Seven really was like yo get me the f out of here. Uh sly says, say allegedly allegedly.
Speaker 3:That's pretty much what I was saying anyway, rumors, it's all hearsay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what? Sly, you're annoying me. You get one shirt. Um, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding, uh. That being said, hey, follow us on everything. Sly, tell your friends to follow us, since you see you've made it this long, your hemorrhoids probably as big as mine right now. Uh, we're gonna keep it moving. We will see you all next week. Follow punchlines, the funniest man on Instagram.
Speaker 3:Thank you, brother.
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Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 2:All right, y'all.
Speaker 1:Peace.
Speaker 3:Peace God. I hope that shit don't bite me.
Speaker 2:Wait, wait, wait I'm not saying nothing?
Speaker 3:crazy, I'm saying something.
Speaker 2:I don't know how to end it. Wait, we're still live. Where's my fucking keyboard? God damn it. Hold on, guys, we're still live, don't say anything stupid. Birds aren't real. Canceled, canceled.