THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST
All things boxing and then some — from breaking news and fight analysis to bold predictions, hot takes, and exclusive interviews. No scripts, no filters — just real talk, real opinions, and real banter. Rated R for raw boxing energy
THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST
From A White Kings Fall off the thrown to Rikiishi's Girth: Boxing's Wild Weekend
We dive into boxing's recent upsets and spectacular moments while debating what's next for the sport's biggest names.
• Josh Taylor's third consecutive loss signals his decline, with his defensive abilities showing significant deterioration
• Eduardo Nunez's pressure fighting defeated Masanori Rikiishi in an exciting lightweight contest
• Bek the Bully vs Darius Fulgham delivered an action-packed bout that raised both fighters' stock despite Bek getting the decision
• Jermall Charlo made an impressive return after two years, showing his jab remains elite while stopping Thomas LaManna
• Caleb Plant suffered a shocking upset loss to Armando Resendiz, raising questions about his focus and dedication to boxing
• We preview the upcoming Keyshawn Davis vs Edwin De Los Santos lightweight clash
• Discussion of potential matchups including Teofimo Lopez vs Devin Haney at a 145lb catchweight
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it's time for the main event.
Speaker 2:It's the sparring podcast yo, we are, we are. Yeah. Yeah, I see it. We had some major technical difficulties. We are officially actually live. We were just chopping it up here at the sparring boxing podcast sunday why are we going through this shit?
Speaker 1:yeah, I have no idea. I should have went to church live. We were just chopping it up here at the Sparren Boxing Podcast. I have no idea, I should have went to church.
Speaker 2:It is Puma here with Willie and Punchlines, our newest member, who probably knows more about. What does that mean? Narcs, isn't that like?
Speaker 3:It means all kinds of shit.
Speaker 2:But Punchlines is here.
Speaker 3:My finger smells like shit.
Speaker 1:We are going to do our best not to get shadow banned today, guys.
Speaker 2:I'm going to play a boxing pundit and monitor or moderator. We're going to do our best not to get shadow banned. That's the goal. Yeah, I think last one. I'm on a tight leash this time. Last time I don't know what we did, but we said some key words we're not going to say, we're not going to get shadow banned on our first ever live. But here we are. Second time's the best.
Speaker 3:Definitely feel like it was my fault.
Speaker 1:It was probably a little bit of Willie, me too A little bit of Willie too.
Speaker 2:There's a lot going on. I said the J word, yeah, juice, juice man, oj to Juice man. Anyway, we are here. We have a lot to talk about today. Someone's phone it's probably mine by there A lot of technical difficulties today. The internet went out right before we started talking. Punchlines is probably a little upset. Right, it is A little upset.
Speaker 3:Devastated bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is your phone by the mic. Yeah, I just put it on, do not disturb okay, yeah, we heard the buzzing um, it was you going live on ig oh nice, us, man, us, it was us, it was us you're still, you were the king of like funny memes and everything and getting shadow banned Because our first ever live Literally everywhere. But listen, you're a little unhappy. You were just telling us when we thought we were live and we weren't. But you're also a little happy. Explain what happened with you and your mans.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God Dude, my white king, the boxing white king.
Speaker 3:actually Everybody's a white king, actually every everybody's white king in boxing sort of white, kind of but earlier this week, um, like you know, like sometimes creating content, I can't do memes all the time and, like me, I'm a huge caleb plant fame so of course I love his like sneaker boxing shoes, so I made that post. I added you as a collaborator on yeah, where it was his four, last four shoes, including the one he wore. Yet last night, like asking like what the best kayla plant fight she was, and then he dm'd me he's like yo add me as a collaborator and I was like do not scare him. I was still like thank you, bro, like so much.
Speaker 2:First thing I said so he put like a period at the end of it, Cause that like means something in text.
Speaker 3:No, he's just like hey, add me as the collaborator and I'll post it up. I want to see what people know and I was like yes, right away sir, of course. That was like the goal in a sense. Right like yeah, I mean I get, I guess it's the ultimate goal is to get him to collab on it. George kittle commented on it. That was pretty oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that tight ends, that's crazy. But yeah, you did blow up.
Speaker 1:You're known for that blowing up on social media you just got that shit down to a pack, man, I don't know man I think I'm just blessed and lucky more than anything, to be honest.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but this was like this was a polite post.
Speaker 2:Usually it's you getting uh, getting a little violent on there, but this was like a polite one, so yeah, it wasn't a meme or nothing.
Speaker 3:It's crazy because I know he didn't look at my account beforehand because the post right before the one he collabed on was literally it's just the picture of him and it said wicker, oh god, yeah, yeah, you did today damn.
Speaker 2:Uh. Yeah, well, that's good, but anyway, that was cool. We're gonna get into a little bit more about our man, caleb plant, later. Uh, there's another white guy I want to touch. Quick take on. You know, nothing too crazy that fall. We actually have a lot to go over. Um, let me just tell you what we're gonna go over. First. I'm a little discombobulated again. We're doing this live thing new and the internet went out right before we started, two minutes before 7 pm eastern time. It comes back on today. We're going to talk about, obviously, like we said, kayla Plant. Quick take on Josh Taylor, a little recap. Is he in or is he out? We don't know. Eduardo Nunez versus Rikishi Not the fat Rikishi, but Eduardo Nunez. We're going to touch on that. Charlo Plant, obviously, and yeah, I think that's it, and we're going to touch on a little, not recap. We're going to preview Keyshawn Davis versus Edwin De Los Santos and obviously all other things. Boxing, but let's just get right into it, since we're talking about white boxers. Quick take on Josh Taylor.
Speaker 1:Oh man, josh was like yeah, that's three in a row. Nah, he didn't get beat crazy, but I mean he got beat, but he started off strong though he did. He did start off strong, but I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2:You know what To me? Yeah, the first three rounds, I'm like, oh, this is going to be a long-ass night for Isuman. I'm like shit, I was about to live bet the KOTKO honestly. And then the fourth, maybe the fifth, I forget. It was like a complete turnaround. Taylor just could not get out of the way. His offense is still there, his offense is still elite, but his defense with time and father time, it's clearly like dwindled away. It's not what it was.
Speaker 3:Yeah, his legs ain't the same.
Speaker 2:No, and he's got the skinny little white legs. Like me, he's looking way different did you see?
Speaker 1:I was looking at his like olympic I think he's on olympics, right. So he was like I've seen how young and look. He looked like a total different person, like his swag, his swag and everything it looked like it just changed.
Speaker 2:It just got older like you ever see, like a, an alcoholic alcoholic. And how they age. You see him and you're like what happened to you in the past three years. He doesn't drink like that, but I think boxing has done something to his liver because he's aging like an old athletic alcoholic.
Speaker 1:He's definitely getting older faster.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying, I wouldn't be surprised, though, the way they cut weight. It's not good on your internal organs.
Speaker 2:No, absolutely not, and he's always had issues with the weight.
Speaker 3:I know for the TO fight at 140, that was like a big deal weight cut wise even then, like if you go back before the TO fight cause it was his fight before that was Caterall. He looked awful he looked bad.
Speaker 1:He made Caterall look good but that's the thing he.
Speaker 2:He's always just right there. Just not enough for these elite level fighters.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. He's right there because of his offense. He's always right there.
Speaker 2:But that little like I always talk about the tears that little now wrinkle in his defense that he doesn't have anymore is just enough to knock at him the win.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's going towards the C tier right now In that weight class.
Speaker 3:He doesn't make adjustments neither.
Speaker 2:No, he's not like at all, he's trying to force what he's doing to work. It's like muscle memory it used to work and now it's just not there.
Speaker 1:But again, the first three rounds, bro, I was like, oh shit, this is going to be a long night he was doing some combinations and doing his thing, but once he got hit it was like a different story.
Speaker 2:But yeah, you know, I'm pretty sure he might do a local show or something. I think that's the end. I don't care.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's only three losses. It depends if he won a fight. But who is he going to fight? You know what I'm saying? He's like a stepping stone, like a fight up for a newcomer coming up. Yeah, that's what he is.
Speaker 3:The thing, though, like I didn't lost to Resendez last night, the thing is, I had at least heard of Resendez. He's three fights. Yeah, three other fights before that fights?
Speaker 1:yeah three other fights before that. That dude, josh taylor, thought I'd never heard of him. Yeah, well, yeah, he's from over there in england, so I guess that's like I still have like a decent knowledge of a lot of the british guys.
Speaker 3:But that guy like I've never ever heard of him?
Speaker 2:not once uh me, neither, me neither um hold on, I gotta turn casual for that or whatever, but no, I mean I, I don't know, casual. No, I didn't hear. No, I mean, I don't no I didn't hear of him either. I don't know. Props to that guy too, though he was an underdog and he's got Josh Taylor on his resume, so props to him too.
Speaker 1:I'm just trying to.
Speaker 2:He did his thing yeah, so you think he would make weight better that way. But again, even his skin like and I don't mean to like his skin looks like that alcoholic skin. You know what I'm talking about? Like chalky, Just like loose and like like, yeah, like he's got the Alky skin.
Speaker 3:Like a bag of milk, like it's really like empty and like stretched to the limit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, something ain't right with that skin man, oh man I don't like the skin fade too like he just looked like a jar head, just you. Just see, I don't know what he's doing with his nose that's all those british guys, though even cataract.
Speaker 3:They all look like fucking peaky blinders yeah, well, I mean peaky, that's good.
Speaker 2:On peaky blinders, that's a good show, because they got it right apparently.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a dumbass haircut though.
Speaker 2:True, but all right, I mean, you know he gave us some good memories, josh Taylor. I don't think he's going to give us any more good memories. I'm definitely always going to bet against him. Now, unfortunately, that's what's on the comment. I know, yeah, especially a name. I bet against him, but he did give us good memories. He was in that. Was it the first super six tournament or whatever that was?
Speaker 3:remember that wasn't the super six. I know what you're talking about. He was in. You're talking about the damn. What was that shit called? I think you're talking about the one he fought regis in yeah, and he got like that big trophy right.
Speaker 2:Usik got it too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because there was a cruiserweight one. There was a super middle weight one.
Speaker 2:There was a 140 pound one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because uh callum smith won one of those.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, callum smith, that's your boy those were all cool, the, the this, that tournament with the trophy or whatever that's. When, like usik really came I he was known amongst boxing heads but he really once he won that tournament it was like, oh shit, who is this fucking guy?
Speaker 3:Yeah, because he ran through Cruiserweight. He was like all the other champions at Cruiserweight doing that.
Speaker 2:Speaking of that real quick, I remember Murat Gassiev. Remember him? Yeah, that's who he fought in the finals. This dude Gassi looks like he eats nails. I thought he was going to just beat Usyk, just on pure brute power, but Usyk really outboxed him. It was like a sweep. Yeah, and he's still sweeping everybody except Dubois and blah, blah, blah. But we'll cross that bridge when that time? Comes. When is that coming? When is that coming up? That's July, right july I think july.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's either july or august. Dubai kills me, bro. I always thought that's my guy right there like I like watch them fight, but it's like every time I look at him I'm like bro, he looks so dumb yeah, he looks slow like when he talks, right like he uses his whole fist to like write and shit yeah, he like he talks slow and shit.
Speaker 2:When he speaks too, he speaks like but we've talked about he's like the shack of boxing. Yeah, just not as like dominant, but the shack was. But I get what you're saying. I'm gonna punch you in the face. Yeah, he looks like he eats rocks dude and apparently I think that is that his brother or his kid. We talked about it once before we did he always brings this little guy with him.
Speaker 2:Now that looks just like him, but I think he's a little smarter, um, but yeah, all right, whatever you know, josh taylor, I'm going blank. I had a long weekend yeah, I know, no, that's tough again we go loud.
Speaker 1:Really did.
Speaker 2:I had a long actually let's talk about that real quick before we jump straight into the fight.
Speaker 1:no credit'all didn't give me no credit. Man Punchline here. He don't want to give me no credit for my dance life. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Willie had a little dance competition, no recital. He sounded like a hater bro?
Speaker 3:I just didn't know.
Speaker 1:No, that was him, him, it's his fault. He's the narrator over here Fucking guy Coming off Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 2:Sorry about my intros. I've been so flustered with this live shit trying to get this live going. But yeah, we're going to work on it in time in time. Memorial Day it was just past Memorial Day weekend. You do anything punchlines for Memorial Day weekend? Besides, speaking of Memorial Day, it kind of ties in with Josh Taylor, so he's kind of like dead to boxing now. So he's for the dead homies. He was flat, he was flat. He was flat.
Speaker 1:He's not dead, he was yeah, yeah, a lot of flat foot it was a it was a bad weekend for the white folk but before we get to that, let's just, I guess we'll just keep it with boxing next.
Speaker 3:Next show, I'll have a better intro.
Speaker 2:We can talk about our lives and what we did, and then we get to that. I guess we'll just keep it with boxing. Next show I'll have a better intro. We can talk about our lives and what we did, and then we get into the boxing, but once my fucking internet went out, I got very flustered. Next on the list, a little junior lightweight championship. What did you think of Rikishi versus Nunes?
Speaker 3:I only watched the highlights, but it looked like it was like a. They said it was a fun fight it was.
Speaker 2:It was fun because nunez made it fun with his style that just come forward, fucking mess can. Yeah, but like again, he, he has pressure, great pressure. No jab there was, I don't know how many jabs. He threw, like a pit bull fight, yeah, it was literally. That's a good analogy. It was Cruz, yeah, and it was working, because Rikishi, masanaro, rikishi, whatever couldn't stand his ground at all. He also looked like he had no legs. He was landing some shots though, I'll give him that but the pressure was just too much yeah, exactly Way too much Pressure bus pipes and he lost his legs pretty quickly. Then now I know Ray Ford was calling him out Nunes, and I agree with Ray Ford. I think there's a lot of holes there to be exploited on Nunes, because pressure like that isn't going to work on Ray Ford. He's not going to back up like Rikishi, he's not going to fight off the back foot.
Speaker 1:Rikishi was doing a pull though, but he didn't throw nothing at them, he was just pulling, he was making a mess.
Speaker 2:I think that's the style over there, because a lot of them do that. From what I see, japanese fighters yeah, they do that, pull and then they don't counter, they just pull and it's there but they don't counter.
Speaker 1:He pulled and rolled.
Speaker 2:Yeah, juto does counter, but I'm saying the ones below that level, they don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, juto, it looked good. He made him miss a lot. Yeah, he made him miss enough. That's the thing, because he had no jab he was making a miss.
Speaker 2:You got to lead in with the jab. It was crazy. You know who else is like that is cuban fighters. They'll make you miss and then just move, yeah, just move, yeah, but they like make you miss more in like a dancing way. You know, like yeah, but these the the japanese style, like they, they're in the pocket almost and like, well, that can be he forced it.
Speaker 1:He forced to come in with his head down and he pulls, but he does. He don't go nowhere, so he's gonna. So he's going to get hit. Yeah, he's going to get hit with another. As long as the dude keeps on throwing, he's going to get hit.
Speaker 2:And Ray Ford called him out rightfully, so I guess he wants to unify. That makes sense, because oh, that was for a title too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Well, it wouldn't be a unification, because Ford don't got no belt.
Speaker 2:No, he moved up. I'm sorry, but he's chasing the belt and there's an opportunity there for him. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1:That's an exciting fight, though, too. Yeah, that's a good fight, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm a little worried. Speaking of Ray Ford, we're going to the Newark fight in Jersey and Ray Ford's going to be there and you know that guy Truck Simpson, he's Him and Jahai are going at it. Yeah, but whatever, we'll be there talking that.
Speaker 1:Hey, what fight Will you be in there?
Speaker 2:I'm going to get the tickets after we're going to Kambosis. When's Kambosis fight? Two weeks, okay, and then we're going to work on those. I'm man, I am so I'm going a little way.
Speaker 2:I feel bad too, like go see little way you know, like I noticed like a lot of the boxing pundits and, like you know, guys like us, whatever the boxing nerds, they're all single right and like this, this boxing shit needs a season. Because I'm starting to see why, like I'm starting to see why, like my wife said to me real quick, not to get, you know, all personal we're gonna keep it boxing, but Boxing shit needs a season. I'm starting to see why I'm starting to see why my wife said to me real quick, not to get all personal, we're going to keep it boxing. But she said to me the other day she was like, oh, I'm on vacation in like two weeks from work and there's like three fights in June that I'm going to, we're going to. And she's like, oh, I'm off those Saturdays too.
Speaker 2:I'm like, oh, yeah, but I'm going to these fights. She's like, oh, I guess we're not going on vacation. And I'm like it hit me. I'm like this is why these motherfuckers are single, because I gotta go. I have to go to the Jahai fight. Right, that's our friend, so I gotta go to that fight.
Speaker 1:And then Kambosis Is in MSG.
Speaker 2:I gotta go to that fight.
Speaker 1:Why do?
Speaker 3:you have to, though.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I just got the itch, if it's in New.
Speaker 2:York and I miss it. My FOMO kicks in, and it's instant.
Speaker 1:I'm part of the lower class.
Speaker 2:It's instant erectile dysfunction if I don't make it. So I have to go to those fights.
Speaker 3:I feel, like that, one of those fights you can skip, though.
Speaker 1:He'd be hair-pressuring me to go to these fights.
Speaker 2:I mean, I have to go to the Jahai one. That's a have-to.
Speaker 1:That's a have-to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I don't think you have to go to the Ah the tickets are already bought.
Speaker 2:We could have skipped.
Speaker 1:Hickson's fight. Fight, yeah, but the tickets are already bought.
Speaker 2:But I get such FOMO dude Like the Times Square fight right. I think it's going to work out for us. It always does.
Speaker 1:But just saying, and the tickets weren't bad for that. Hey, man, you're a married man Bro you're a married man? Yeah, and that's why we're married. You can lose it all For what I?
Speaker 2:didn't do nothing wrong. Go to the fucking fight, take her to a nice dinner or something.
Speaker 3:Do some gay wife shit?
Speaker 2:during the day. Gay isn't happy, he means gay isn't very happy. Gay isn't happy.
Speaker 3:Moderator, moderator.
Speaker 2:Moderator. Moderator, we are not going to get Shadowband again.
Speaker 3:Apple picking.
Speaker 1:We have they always go wine tasting they always drinking. What do you mean? They it's getting racial, nothing about you you and your wife what?
Speaker 3:is wrong with you, chicks, kill me, they're always like, you always go like how more? How much more mature they are than us and how dudes are scary. It's like, bro, y'all get wine drunk and throw axes at shit.
Speaker 2:Don't say I'm scary. Yeah, that's true, we are worse, though, when we're drunk. Anyway, back to boxing. Sorry, we sort of sidestepped there. Anyway, yeah, Eduardo Nunez, masarino, rikishi, I didn't even know real quick. I didn't even know real quick. Oh shit, I didn't even know Rikishi was like, I didn't know that was a Japanese name. What do you think of when you hear Rikishi?
Speaker 3:The Hawaiian dude, the wrestler, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course, and he was Hawaiian. I know that's of Asian descent, but I was like I never, ever once, crossed my mind that. Rikishi was Japanese. I thought it was like Samoan, yeah, I don't know, maybe there's like Inchel in there. Yeah, but whatever, he is not anywhere near the Rikishi we're thinking of. He's probably his penis. He could be Rikishi's penis, that skinny little guy. Anyway, going forward, props to Ray Ford. Ray Ford is going to Ray Ford's gunning for a belt, and that's exciting because I, aside from my, love for.
Speaker 2:Shushu. Yeah, oh, someone commented I'm getting new to this. I need something close.
Speaker 1:What does that say? I don't know. You can't see it on the screen.
Speaker 2:Nah, because if I log in it'll mess up. But yeah, thanks for commenting, like and subscribe whoever you are on YouTube. Someone just commented something Cool. Thanks, man, I'll send you a shirt. Dm me. Yeah, good for Ray Ford. Man, ray Ford will, I think, and I'm going to bet on Ray Ford, and again, he was my fight of the year a year ago Just once he started talking smack about shushu. You know I had to had to back our guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, still a fan of ray ford's, though just not when first shushu and when you do this, you gotta stay out of the fighter, like they're not.
Speaker 3:They're always gonna have problems with somebody yeah, yeah, I, I like kept it.
Speaker 2:I kept it like I wasn't like getting personal, I just kept it. You know I'm I'm new New York with fans of Shushu. Shushu also is, if anyone listening, we say it all the time, but Bruce Carrington is the most fan-friendly boxer I've ever met in my life and you could probably attest to that too. Oh, 100% Dude, and he's well-spoken, well-mannered, just an all-around great, great dude. Yeah, you want to talk about the charlo and then we'll get into your boy, and I know you got a lot to say about your boy, did you?
Speaker 3:want to talk about the beck fulgham fight at all. Did you guys watch that? No way, dude. Did they shit on me?
Speaker 2:wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We froze you there yeah, okay no, no, we are here, my internet bro.
Speaker 3:I'm calling verizon tomorrow and I am going bat shit crazy you're making it really hard for me, to someone of my stature, to do this interview. Yo eat a rikishi dick.
Speaker 2:How about that? What were you saying, though? What'd you want to go over?
Speaker 1:Yo, what's going on?
Speaker 3:Yeah, bro, he keeps going back to home.
Speaker 1:Yo, what are you trying to say? I think you're stereotyping him. Nah, nah, sorry.
Speaker 2:I think Verizon's doing something in the area, because the past few weeks I pay literally I pay $300 a month for internet. So this doesn't happen. And has this ever? We're on episode 70-something. Has this ever happened before? Never. It's my biggest fear.
Speaker 1:It happened like five times. No, it didn't Never.
Speaker 3:Shut up, I still risk a going live bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's annoying but, like again, I have the line in, we're not doing Wi-Fi and you've been here for fights when, like yo, I don't everyone's always like, oh, don't buy the fight, don't buy the fight. Yeah, he's at a tempted chance. I'm like no, no, I'm buying the fight because when that shit cuts out, especially when you gamble on it, I lose my fucking shit.
Speaker 3:Me and my boy streamed the Haney Garcia fight and the shit glitched at the third knockdown Like Ryan was still in a combo. It froze and it came back and Haney's getting the count and we're like what the fuck? Nah, I was gonna see if you wanted to talk about the Beck the Bully versus the Bulldog fight.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, that's another one, beck the Bulldog, oh yeah, yeah, that's another one, beck the oh, because yeah, that ties right in with Charlo and them weight class wise. Yeah for sure I never get to see that. Yeah, did you watch? The whole thing I watched the whole thing I did.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Me too I watched the co-main event too. The co-main event was what was? That I didn. You know, eric Priest. Yes yeah, he was fighting Luis Arias.
Speaker 2:Oh, arias, is that the same Arias that fought Danny Jacobs, right? Yep, okay, yeah, arias is slick though.
Speaker 3:No, he's not dude, he's bad bro.
Speaker 1:He's like George Cambosis never won a fight for real.
Speaker 2:Yeah okay.
Speaker 3:He didn't look good. He got washed in that fight.
Speaker 2:Okay, eric Priest good, he got washed in that fight. Okay, it's like eric priest is a good name, though he's he's, he's a he's a real fighter.
Speaker 3:A good performance. But it was also like uh, I don't know, just like when you see those younger guys going up against somebody past it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it doesn't go well and that's like that kind of boxing's like full circle, because that brings us right back to to josh taylor. Like that's where josh taylor is probably gonna we're gonna go right back to it.
Speaker 3:When we talk about plant too, yeah, but the the back to bully versus bulging fight, because that was a big fight yeah it was, it was. We don't see those fights often, right, it's the two guys that are, like, ranked, pretty close to each other, you know not for a belt yeah, not for a belt, not even for a title shot, yep, but um, and it was a good matchup because it was a fun fight. It was a close fight and I personally thought Beck was going to fuck him up.
Speaker 2:I really did me too, but it leads me back to what we talked about again full circle. No jab man, you gotta work your way in there bro you know what? I ain't getting to see your shit. Yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 3:You know what came to my attention in that fight? Because I was Michael Anzaletti. He's a friend of mine, he's a professional fighter. I was texting him during the fight because he's friends with Darius Fulgham, and I was just talking to him about the fight and he pointed it out and he was like bro beck has no inside game. Yeah, that's true, because he's such a good body puncher. I think we kind of just assumed he had an inside game. But like when it comes to like setting up shots or fighting out of a clinch or even like getting into the clinch, dude, he really didn't know what he was doing and then was kind of manhandling him inside.
Speaker 2:Correct me if I'm wrong His big knockout. When he got knocked, the fuck out, that was an inside uppercut, was it not?
Speaker 3:Against Rosado. Yeah, against Gabe. It was an overhand right because he came in lunging with it.
Speaker 2:I could have swore it was an overhand right, I thought it was an uppercut, but I could be wrong too.
Speaker 3:I'd have to rewatch it, but it seemed like because he was coming in like this. Yeah, and Gabe just caught him with the overhand right.
Speaker 2:Okay, you're probably right, I'm probably Almost like.
Speaker 3:Akio Marquez knockout.
Speaker 2:Yeah, speaking akyal mark. Uh, marquez knockout. Yeah, speaking of um nah, but now so beck, beck needs to you and even getting in on the inside with that style, with no jab, if you could withstand the power you're gonna. You're gonna do good and fulgham did do good. He didn't do bad, like both their faces were fucking torn to pieces.
Speaker 2:You should go watch the highlights I gotta see that yeah, because it's that's the best fights, that's when boxing's great and like friday night fights used to be like that, like it would be like the 16th and 15th ranked fighting. I'm just you know like guessing, but like those fights are are awesome. That's what makes great fights, and they did that, so props to them.
Speaker 3:But now honestly I think, homeboy, they both raised their stock.
Speaker 1:That fight like yeah, yeah, yeah he won.
Speaker 3:He's closer to a title shot, but I think folgium got a lot of fans in that fight, one for taking it but two for performing the way he did yo, who, I don't know who, coach sal, underscore nine five, six is uh, he says salute all the way from rgv rio grande valley down here in texas.
Speaker 2:Salute that our first, our first, live yo. If you're listening, coach sal, dm me, I will send you merch for free on the house, but it might be cheap because my internet keeps going out. So no, I'm just kidding, I'll send you merch for free for real. Um, but yeah, I, I, I think beck the bully is always going to be dangerous, though. He's always going to be dangerous because, unlike um, what's his face? Uh, not rakishi nunez, he has that power to hurt you. He's like he's more about it.
Speaker 1:Are they young, they like?
Speaker 2:oh, they're prime, prime age, he's like a he's like 20s, I feel like yeah, he's like a. He's more of like a pitbull like his. His power means something and and he's got that anger. It's just he's beatable, that's all he's beatable yeah, and he's athletic.
Speaker 3:I just wish he would knew, like figure out how to like use that to his strength, because he's got really good, like because he's southpaw yeah, he's got really good like he can leap in with an attack and turn you, he's really good at that. He didn't use that enough until later on, when he had to make adjustments, because when he would do that he would do well, but when he doesn't move, he was.
Speaker 1:He's getting touched up, bro. Yeah, and that's what a lot of fighters they just say yeah like yo.
Speaker 2:that I I don't get, though, because if you're that powerful, right, and you just practice jabbing your way in some trainer, they have to be training that. We're not experts. The experts have to be telling that's like basic training. Yeah, but Beck, the Bully with that power, and if he just jabs his way in bro and goes to the body with that looping hook, it's a whole different ballgame for him.
Speaker 1:He's at that next tier. Double up the jab and then go with the right hook to the body.
Speaker 2:It's just. Again, it's easier said than done, as we know.
Speaker 1:Especially at that level. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's so powerful and so explosive it's insane.
Speaker 3:A lot of people were calling that fight a robbery too, but it was way too close yeah, nah, nah, it was especially because you had a point deduction on beck and then you had a knockdown.
Speaker 1:Yeah where he get a point deduction for it was holding yeah and that that that.
Speaker 2:That goes back to like what he was holding for what he got hurt?
Speaker 3:nah, he was just getting tagged up, he was getting yeah, it's like he would like, folgen would get it on the inside with pressure and Beck would kind of get lost and he would just hold on Because he didn't know how to get out of it.
Speaker 1:That's a sense of like that, though, to get a point, Damn that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because the ref was warning him for like a lot.
Speaker 1:He had a lot of warnings before the.
Speaker 3:But then Beck scored a knockdown in the 12th round too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, damn that's kind of what made it close.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, it was close in general but it was a fight. It had a lot of momentum shifts, but it had momentum shifts at weird times. So it was like, for example, there was a round early on like three or four.
Speaker 3:There was one round where Beck had homeboy hurt bad, he was rocked, was like holding on and then the next round fulcrum come out and was like putting it on him and he was doing really well for like two and a half minutes and then he lost focus, he got confident, he dropped his hands and beck closed out the end of the round really well, where it's like where all the shots land those, those, the hardest rounds to count. Yeah and I even I texted michael that I was like bro, I was like he's got to stay, like fulgham's got to stay focused, because it's like rounds like that are how you lose fights yeah and then the last 30 minutes is the last.
Speaker 1:30 seconds of the fight is on. The round is always important, like always important. Yeah, because that's the last thing they see, the ref see. Pretty much they forget a whole round if you have the 30 seconds, going crazy.
Speaker 3:But they would take turns doing that, because then there would be some rounds where Beck would start off pretty well and Fulgham would end it really well. So it was like weird momentum shifts.
Speaker 1:Sound like a great fight, right? No?
Speaker 2:dude, it was a good fight it was a fun fight. I wish it was promoted a little better. These are the fights. This is my problem and again, I talk about it almost every freaking episode. But with DAZN and it's not ESPN. That fight should have been on. Imagine that fight was on ESPN. At the bars, right, even if you're just hanging out at the bars, some fat girl's grinding on you. Who is this guy up there on that TV?
Speaker 3:And then you get their attention.
Speaker 2:These guys are beating each other's ass. Yeah, and DAZN in America anyway, we're not going to have that. Hopefully it changes, but we're never going to have that.
Speaker 1:No, we're not going to have that when the Nixon Yankees are losing at the same time, but seriously we ain't going to see none of that. And these are the type of fights that was Saturday or Friday Friday.
Speaker 2:I got off work and I came home. I watched it, yeah, and now we could just transition right into Charlo versus La Mana. I think I don't know. Is Beck going to get an eliminator, or is he next in line? I think the W don't know. Is Beck going to get an eliminator, I think, or is he next in line, or did he? I think the WBO ranked him higher. I'm not sure I read something.
Speaker 3:I'd have to look at which sanctioned body he's ranked in.
Speaker 2:I think somebody just bumped his rankings up like way, way up there and he's I would like to see him versus Pacheco After Friday. I'm less confident he beats pacheco, to be honest with you, yeah, yeah, wait. Less, less confident, you said yeah, for sure less yeah, yeah, yeah, less less confident. Yeah, me too a young bull I'm actually like and and he's speaking of pacheco. Uh, he has a fight coming up with our mans. Hold on, I'm having a brain fart, trevor. Yeah, mccombie, that's crazy, we'll get into Caleb.
Speaker 1:Plant, that's nuts. That whole thing is going down right now.
Speaker 2:This division just got hot out of nowhere, and we could, it did.
Speaker 3:It's like if you watch basketball, you, you watch basketball, you guys watch basketball. It's like the East when LeBron left yeah, to be honest. It's like a free fall. Because Canelo's got all the belts and we know what he's doing and we know what he's not going to do. He's not going to fight any of these guys.
Speaker 2:No, no, you're right.
Speaker 3:So it's like it's heating up at the right time.
Speaker 2:Perfect, and it's like, and you know, it's heating up at the right time.
Speaker 1:yeah, perfect, and they're young and they're prime and like it's. It's great, because now if trevor performs.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I know, but I'm a little worried now because his performance versus caleb plant was amazing it was amazing he just he didn't let up.
Speaker 3:We should get to that later.
Speaker 2:We should okay, okay, okay, okay. I feel like we're gonna repeat it yeah, probably, but Okay, so let's just get right into Charlo then, because now he's in the mix again too, after his little layoff. Jamal Charlo, he looked good man, he did Very good. Thomas LaManna A little clean clean, strong have you. I never heard.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was patient, calm, so did you guys. I never heard of lamanna you, yeah, just from when ariostandy lara knocked him the fuck.
Speaker 2:Okay, and you're. You're a lara fan, so that makes sense and I saw the brooklyn on his short on his shorts and I'm like yo. How do I not know who this?
Speaker 1:guy is. He's a young kid. He's not from brooklyn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know he's from jersey. I looked it up, he's from Southern Jersey. I'm like where the fuck have I been this?
Speaker 1:guy got Brooklyn on his shirt. He looked like he'd been in the hood a little bit sometimes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whatever he had, a Philly hat on South Jersey.
Speaker 1:He had no muscles though. Bro, Go to the gym. I know you punched the bag, but damn, he looked like a non-fat?
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, I think so too, but that was bugging me out.
Speaker 3:You're right, he's skinny but fat at the same time.
Speaker 1:It's like when Charlo went up for Canelo.
Speaker 2:It's like me, a lot of alcoholics fighting.
Speaker 1:Skinny fat. Yeah, he's like Canelo Gribble from King of the Hill.
Speaker 2:But yeah, on to Charlo Listen. Two-year layoff, dusted off the cobwebs. Uh stopped him in as a betting man and I didn't bet on this fight. It said one second into the six.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? You didn't bet in this fight?
Speaker 2:um, then you put a parlay in oh yeah, no, I did, I did, I put a parlay but I didn't bet like. I didn't bet charlo like alone. Oh yo, as a betting man, I noticed that the final time was one second into the sixth round and this is like to me that's crazy, because it was stopped in the fifth when he was in the corner, like the sixth round didn't start. No, it did.
Speaker 3:It was because it was stopped by the doctor, not by his corner.
Speaker 2:Ah, so they gave it that one second. Yeah, Bro, if I bet on this like if I bet the fifth round and that happened, I would have fucking boycotted boxing.
Speaker 3:So shout out to my gamblers out there. I did say to bet the under on Charlo, though I'm telling you, bro, I saw that dude get melted yeah, fucking, creamed by Law, with one punch by Eris Landy Lara. I knew Charlo was going to fuck him up, and Charlo like that's what I was, and Lara's just a boxer.
Speaker 1:He's like nothing, like a puncher.
Speaker 2:But yo like that to me, charlo, listen, he warmed up His power's still there. We know the opponent wasn't really you know whatever, no, but but but, but we've seen worse, like people come back and yeah, have like his timing was on point, like if you, if you just take away who he was fighting and look at like as a boxing fan what he did, his jab, and then I texted you about this today was strong yo his jab never left. Like that, he didn't have to dust the cobwebs off.
Speaker 2:That that's a great that jab and he's my favorite, charlo jamal, like like M-A-L-L.
Speaker 3:Really, I always liked Jamal more.
Speaker 2:Really I liked Mal yeah, mal, I always liked Mal just because he was like he went crazy and then stepped out. He's like I got to step out.
Speaker 3:I got to step a strong feeling that, like I was pretty confident charles was gonna fuck that dude up and yeah, yeah, yeah but I was like he's been out of the ring for a while, not only that but he's going through head stuff.
Speaker 3:The pressure of this plant fight is there. I was like I wonder if he's. But dude, he was calm all week. He was friendly, even when he was like talking shit on stage. He wasn't like yelling like he normally no, no he was like you're lucky, you're on our card, bro like he's like nice, but like also a dick at the same time. Yeah, they were talking about like he was like owning up to the whole caleb plant thing, like laughing it off yeah, they kind of made nice to caleb plant like they made friends.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, like caleb plant was walking to do his face off, like uh, jamal was like yo after you and everything like that, and I was like I wonder if it's like in his head, I wonder if he's just like insecure. And then the fight started and, bro, he was calm, he was patient, everything.
Speaker 2:The only thing I did notice and again I just want to speak on his jab His jab was immaculate and this kind of like blinded what I did notice. Like jab was immaculate and this kind of like blinded what I did notice, like it kind of like negated it. So he landed. I think it was 44 jabs according to compu box. And his feet, though man, his feet come really together and he's a little flat-footed and he's always something like that, yeah. So so, speaking of like plant and a mover like that, I I just feel like his jab kind of stops you from from seeing that and and kind of cancels it out. But, and again, he could work on it. You know, like he, he is his first fight in two years, I mean, he's 35. He could, but that was the only negative I saw, like they were, he was walking, you know he, he wasn't like, he was just walking around the ring.
Speaker 3:I also don't think he was afraid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that too. That too he was laughing. But he has, like he's not like a mover, but he just tilts his head a little bit. You know what I mean. Like it's not a lot.
Speaker 3:They both do that. They both fight like this yeah.
Speaker 2:Weird, and it's like his defense though, though, like because there are some shots missing. He just and you know, props to him. He came back, he fought, he did what he was supposed to do and he did it in fashion. He had that. That guy was walking back to the corner and tripped Like it was. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:He was. He's a goofy ball.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was it, not to shit on the dude, but bro is goofy. I gotta Google why he or whatever, figure out why he had the Brooklyn shorts on, because that threw me for a loop.
Speaker 1:He probably was confused because he was confused in a ring a little bit.
Speaker 3:Probably still fucking concussed from when Lara sent his ass to the show.
Speaker 2:It's funny that you would know that, because I was like, hey, I never heard of this guy. I looked him up and I forgot that he did fight him and I'm like, who is this guy?
Speaker 3:like he got dude. It was a bad knockout too. It's like one punch. There's like an amir khan knockout.
Speaker 2:This is rough but you know what and I want to give props before we get into to caleb but pbc did a good job of promoting this fight because non-boxing heads were like oh there's um. I heard charlo fights tonight and I heard plant. Yeah, that they didn't charlo, bring, bring yeah, the only thing is, they thought they were fighting each other.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like no, that's what I was gonna say earlier they kind of like duped us with.
Speaker 2:That, though, too, I'm tired of this.
Speaker 1:It's crazy. Y'all still say charlo and plant, but they didn't even fight. Yeah, but you said it earlier too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, call it a little plant.
Speaker 1:Yeah Like what.
Speaker 3:What are we going to learn, bro? Yep, they did this shit with Joshua and Wilder, they did it with Joshua Fury, they did it with. They just did it with Ryan and Haney too. It's like.
Speaker 2:We're suckers, bro. They give these big names on cards and then nobody's they something happens. Yeah, ruins everything. It ruins your whole plan. You're right. And uh, as you know, I say probably the most, the the thing I say the most in all of our episodes yeah, never plan your next fight before your next fight. Never plan your next fight before your next fight.
Speaker 1:All they doing, and that's all they doing.
Speaker 3:Now we'll get right into it uh, that's that's one of the things that gave me a big feeling, a bad feeling about plant this whole week, because he kept saying he wasn't looking past. Resendez, I'm like bro. It feels like you are, though, because it's like everything is about like you're talking. You're talking about your shoes, you're talking about your fashion line dropout that you have coming up he has some nice shoes on again, though but you, you know what I'm saying you assisted with that.
Speaker 1:He has some nice shoes on again.
Speaker 3:But I'm saying, if you watch his like persona yeah everything was about that. It was about his, his brand and his identity and what he's got coming up outside of it was almost like, remember, in rocky three, and like rocky's training and like all the fucking presses there and they're're kissing him on the cheek. It seemed like Speaking of kissing on the cheek, you're planning out all these fights.
Speaker 1:bro, your man, Caleb, kissed your man on the cheek after the fight. You didn't see that?
Speaker 2:Did he?
Speaker 1:Kiss him on the cheek, I said what? Yeah, as soon as the fight was over, you guys see that clip.
Speaker 2:Clearly for our radio listeners that aren't on the video chat. We're getting right into Caleb Plant versus Jose Resendez. Yeah, man. Oh really.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What the fuck do I have here? Whatever, I just knew him as Resendez. What, jose Armando?
Speaker 2:It don't matter just kidding, just kidding. Caleb plant versus armando resendez, resendez, whatever. Uh, I didn't know. They sparred I. I heard that right before the fight and and my bet I was like that's when my first red flag came up. I'm like, oh, they sparred shit and it was for Canelo. And the irony of that is Caleb looked a lot like he did versus Canelo in this fight. The way again, the pressure. He just couldn't take the pressure. But this is possibly upset of the year. It opened up at Negative one Resendez, resendez for.
Speaker 1:Plus money plus $1,000. Plus $2,800.
Speaker 2:So that means if you put $100, you'd win and you bet $100 on Resendez to win by decision or to go the distance.
Speaker 1:Money line the money line was like $2,800 richer.
Speaker 2:So if you bet $10, you'd win $280. That's bad. That's a great bet if you did it. I don't think many bet that. Like that's a great bet if you did it. I don't think many bet that.
Speaker 3:I sure as hell didn't, who wouldn't he fucked?
Speaker 2:up my parlay. So Jerry, an ex-pro whose kid fights amateur, he came over late as usual and this fight was on. I put this fight on. It was like the fourth or third round.
Speaker 1:You fell asleep with it.
Speaker 2:No, no no, but Coach Jerry came over and we were watching it in my backyard and he pointed something out to me and I kind of got to agree with him. He's like yo, look at his body. That dude is no diddy because we can't say the other word, because we're PG-13, no diddy, he's like. That dude is girthy, he's thick, he's thick as hell, he is yeah, he's like. That dude is like girthy, he's like thick, he's thick as hell. And I'm like, yeah, I'm like you know what, like that is a little weird. He looked like his bone matter looked a little like thick.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Am I the only one that saw that, or?
Speaker 3:I mean, I wasn't paying attention to me.
Speaker 1:I wasn't paying attention to that.
Speaker 2:I don't know, you didn't look at his bone matter. I don't know what type of freaky shit, y'all was on over here.
Speaker 1:No, no, we were like yo.
Speaker 3:Look at that dude. What the I wonder if he has a dick like a WWE?
Speaker 2:wrestler. Yeah, he got a rickshaw cock, doesn't he Yo? All right, yo Listen. His stock rose and I know you got a lot to say about it, so I'm going to let you go next. But his stock rose crazy, and I just want to say something about his style and his defense, and they're not going to talk about his defense a lot. His high guard was really well.
Speaker 2:Yo, his high guard was good and his body blocking was crazy because Caleb in the later rounds was trying to kill that body and just couldn't he just could not touch that body.
Speaker 1:It was kill that body and just couldn't he, he just could not touch that body. He was all on the elbows, all on the elbows and he would return fire people, taking advantage of the time man he's taking. That's the advantage of the moment right there.
Speaker 3:But I, he didn't.
Speaker 2:He didn't show up just to be an opponent no, not at all, and and I didn't expect that, nobody expect that. But you make a good point with the, the shoe stuff and, like he, he has silk sheets. Now, man, he's, he's, he's rich.
Speaker 1:He's turning. He's turning into one of the charlots.
Speaker 2:He wasn't gonna fight, but real, real quick. Before you go off, I just want to say one thing, and and this is where I kind of I agree with you with the silk sheet stuff his corner, I I noticed something. They were basically in the in the back half, like the last three or four rounds. Right, they were telling him like yo, you listen, you're not, I love you, I love you man, I love you, kid, but you got to win these two rounds, you got to win these. I would never lie to you. I would never lie to you, kid, and you know what that tells me. When you're talking like that, he's a yes man. You know what I? Yeah, they're yes men. Yeah, because, because you got to get in his shit, like yo, you're about to lose to this guy.
Speaker 3:Like, yeah, because, I, I agree with you like I noticed him saying that, but I didn't agree with bread man. I was like, brother, you need a knockout.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he's a knockout, his reason for his reason for that was, like you know, I love you, kid. You heard him. I love you, kid, I love you like no, no, motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love you, knock his ass out like that's how you, that's make it sound like you, but knew they was about to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and breadman breadman's a good trainer, so I was like yo I love you man, what is going on?
Speaker 3:bro, there was a point early in the fight, like before the first half had passed, and like like plant was starting to look slow. He was like things weren't landing. He was getting hit up, and bread man asked him in the corner. He's like is there something going on that I don't know about?
Speaker 2:I didn't see that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, wow yeah, bro, that was like. That was like between the fourth and fifth, maybe between the fifth and sixth wow yeah, it was before he got rocked, I remember that.
Speaker 2:So that's weird, that's odd yeah bread.
Speaker 3:Man is like is there something he got rocked like at?
Speaker 1:six Like sixth round. He got rocked yeah.
Speaker 3:Sixth or seventh? Yeah, it was before that.
Speaker 2:We thought it was going to get stopped. We just put it on then I'm not going to lie. I tuned in like the fifth or sixth because the Knicks were losing, so we turned it off, damn the first round he looks kind of like caleb playing okay, he's more, he's more active.
Speaker 3:He wasn't as exhausted. Obviously it was the first round, but his jab like he landed like four punches the whole first round.
Speaker 2:His jab was missing that's weird for him too.
Speaker 3:It's his, that's his, his jab is his key and I messaged my boy I'm like, bro, he't look great and he's like maybe he's just trying to feel the shots before he like turns it up. I'm like I know, but like I'm not saying he looks bad, but he don't look good Like normally. The plant like the plant jab in the early part of the fight is money.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:He does well with it. It just wasn't there and his head movement wasn't there and his head movement wasn't there. Um, he just wasn't doing a whole lot. He kept trying to do the get off center line and throw that shovel hook to the body. He was doing that early. The right hand wasn't there. The combination punching wasn't there I mean so.
Speaker 2:So to me he was never known for his power, right, like never, no, never he had the Darrell knockout, whatever, but that kind of threw everyone for like a loop. He was never, if you know, boxing. He was never known for his power. And I didn't like the kind of like the new version of Canelo, the one plotting, like you just said, the plotting one or two punch shots, Like no combos. He's known for combos, he's known for combos. He's a combo puncher, a defensive sound combo puncher.
Speaker 3:And even in his last fight against McCombie the jab was there. Yeah, His footwork was a little better. He was still whipping combos around.
Speaker 2:And those shots were affecting McCombie. I felt player stoppage for sure in this fight he didn't make no adjustments this time, yeah.
Speaker 1:He didn't look too well. Mccombie didn't really look too good in the beginning of the rounds.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think though he was getting rocks.
Speaker 2:And I thought after that fight he would know not to overlook anybody.
Speaker 1:And then here we are in this fight. Yeah, so he came back and did the same thing, and then his bad habits just rolling over.
Speaker 3:I don't even think it was bad habits. I think it was a mixture of bad habits because it's like at least against McCombie. He made the adjustment and made it a phone booth fight? Yeah, mccombie up yeah. Mccombie's strong.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And also, too, it had been what? 14, 15 months, since he had fought before that against Benavidez. I was like, all right, it's a tune-up, there's ring rust, he's ironing out kinks. That wasn't the case. This fight he. It hasn't been a long layoff for him and he just looked like he looked. And this isn't me hate, I don't know. You guys know I'm a huge. Yeah, yeah, that's your guy, but I'm a jaguars fan. I'm gonna root for you if you win or lose. Obviously, like I'm not gonna like jump ship on caleb plant, but it's just I'm calling it how I saw it for real.
Speaker 2:I want to give you your props real quick too, because I I commented something on one of your posts and I was like yo, this is a real boxing fan and you know when, when to does bad, I cook them right, yeah. So like you're a real boxing fan because you could cook your guy when, when he underperforms. You know what I You're just keeping it real and that's why we have you on the show. But you posted something right after, like oh man, and I thought I was like oh, this is in my head. I was like this is a good test for him.
Speaker 1:I had to have it All that shit beforehand with him and then you had to go cook him right afterwards.
Speaker 2:Because it probably was a little hard for you. I'm going to make this shit.
Speaker 3:It's like Wesley Snipes from New Jack City when he's like crying and pointing the gun at you. Yeah, yeah, Literally man.
Speaker 2:But that's good as a fan Like, that's what fans do. That's why sports are sports, because we got to keep it real. And in boxing, as you know and I know as a Teal fan from his other fans you got to cook a guy when he's bad. It is what it is.
Speaker 3:The difference, though gotta cook a guy when he's bad. It is what it is. The difference, though, not to cut you off, because this is what makes it shitty, because it's like there's a difference between saying you under performed. That's not all I'm saying, it's like, bro, you look like a different fighter yeah, and not a good way, because we're like.
Speaker 3:When teo underperforms, it's usually a lack of focus, yeah, or a lack of like. Like he looked past martin, he looked past cambosis and he was sick. He looked past ortiz. That, like caleb plant, looked old, yeah, like his. His mind was still there, his ring iq was still there. That's why you saw him trying to make adjustments last night. They just weren't working, like, because what did he start doing? Like? He tried doing what he was doing at first and the jab wasn't landing the shut like the, the body shots weren't affecting him. So then he tried to make it all body by going all inside, like he didn't against mccombby, and that wasn't working. You even saw him. He threw the, the same combo he knocks durell out with. He threw that combo like six times in the second half of that fight.
Speaker 2:Did you see it?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, you're right, he would like dip down and throw that hook to the body and wait and then come up at top and, like resendez, just kept blocking at that point.
Speaker 2:At that point, though, it wasn't explosive enough. Like first durell, it happened like this guy, and and again we, we got to give credit where credit's due. Dude Resendez's stock just fucking went through the roof, but here's my thing.
Speaker 3:As good as that win was for him, I'm happy for him. He's going to get a few fights out of that, but I don't think he looked like a top 10 super middleweight either. He did enough to win, but he didn't have to show a lot to win, which is what was the even worse part about it.
Speaker 2:But like how you win matters and this is like what I get. Why a friend of ours who used to be on the show oh, he's anti Crawford. I'm not going to say his name, I give him enough plugs. He's big on Canelo Right and he hates Crawford. I'm like, dude, like you could hate on Crawford all you want. Like, yeah, you know you could talk about his resume, whatever, but how he beat Errol Spence and how he did it matters so so. So the the way this Resendez dude beat Caleb Plant really matters, because nobody saw that coming. And if you look at the odds, caleb, he almost stopped him in the seventh. Whenever I was I tuned in, he rocked him hard and Caleb was surviving. He made Caleb Plant try to survive, which is why I speak on. He looked like it was fighting Canelo again. He made him try to survive.
Speaker 3:And he had no answers.
Speaker 2:And nobody expected that.
Speaker 3:When he was moving around and dancing on his feet in the second half of the fight. That was him looking for answers and resorting to muscle memory Because it sounded like it was good footwork and he was wasting energy and keeping his feet away from him.
Speaker 1:Maybe his nice shoes had him moving different the shoes did look good, they did look good. Yeah jordan ones, yeah the ogs and I'm not again.
Speaker 2:I I do like caleb plant. He's, he's one of my like top fighters. You know, like he, I like him and I like it. It's for his style. I like the style of fight he's in. He's always in it and, honestly, when he did slap charlo, I like he stood on his word, like yeah, but that I don't think that's, but I don't think he's that guy anymore. He has another kid on the way.
Speaker 1:He's got a beautiful wife, this fight of him and Charlo.
Speaker 3:Fashion drop coming out in the summer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so this fight of him and Charlo really waited too long.
Speaker 2:Now it's not going to be the same, no more.
Speaker 1:It's not going to Now.
Speaker 3:They're friends yeah it's not even like a bad blood fight. No more.
Speaker 1:Shout out to.
Speaker 2:Shout out to original listener real quick On our second ever live. Just commented a chili pepper. I don't know what that means, but it looks like something that I see a lot. Tapatio, underscore 19. Shout out to you, man. You've been with us from the beginning. He already got merch I think it's tapatio tapatio, tapatio.
Speaker 3:Whatever is my guy, we always text sure it's tapatio you know him too no, but that's a hot sauce, it's a mexican hot sauce.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, it's my bad dude. Thank you for cultural. I thought it was the size of my shfigadel. Anyway, back to Caleb. Speaking of smart, here's a good question.
Speaker 3:Here's a good question because I know where I fall on it the Caleb plant that we saw last night. Do you think he would have beat the William Skoll that fought Canelo? No. I don't either.
Speaker 1:I mean Skoll would have been running around the damn ring yo he just wrote real quick.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I'm new to this live thing, but he just wrote yes, sir, hot sauce to patio, hot sauce, whatever. All right, I'm a gringo to I am a gringo, yeah t, you don't have to say.
Speaker 3:Tio, you say Tio's name, all you gotta do is say Tap uh in front of it.
Speaker 2:Alright, tapatio, I got you now, man, but yo, he's been with us from day one, so shout out to him Anyway, skull. Yeah, I mean, that's a boring, that's a really boring fight.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I also like, because Resendez didn't look like, uh, he didn't look like somebody who was a ibf champion that beat vladimir shishkin. Yeah, dude, I'm telling you plant, but but you missed the whole first half pretty much. He was tired by round four but can I say three? He was frustrated. He was like picking resendez up and stuff like canelo does is like he was like he also taylor does I won't say he looked out of shape well, he's known to fade.
Speaker 3:He fades in the second half of most fights. It's been a big knock on him, but he was faded by round four. The only difference between those other fights in this fight is what he would look like before he faded wasn't good. It's like when you watch a football game like after a bye week or it's the first game of the season and the quarterback's like a little off with the receivers. They're like overthrowing them. They're missing five yards out by like a little bit. I see trevor lawrence do it all the time he fades quick.
Speaker 3:He does, it's just. It's just. You're like he was never in a groove before he faded. Everything looked hard for him, everything was hard for him to score and like all the shit that got him to where he's at it wasn't there. So it's like he's either an old fighter whose body isn't doing what his brain is telling him to do anymore, or he's he's got to. He's got to hold himself and possibly someone else accountable, because if you're not old and you're not shot and you still got it, then that was a lack of discipline before the fight going into it for sure.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure, I think it's a lack of discipline.
Speaker 2:I think it's a handful of everything. Like I spoke on the the fame he's getting way more fame Now. You have all this Canelo money and you have a yes man in your corner. You're too much of a superstar.
Speaker 1:He's definitely a superstar, even though he's like the only name with a plant. Nobody else got that name he's also, like.
Speaker 3:Everything is about his brand identity too the clothing to the shoes, to how he dresses his lowriders, and you can tell he's trying to build that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, monetize yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he was setting up shit for the future, but it's like.
Speaker 1:But what's the breadwinner Fighting? Go fight. You have to win. You have to win, win.
Speaker 2:Yeah, go fight by any means necessary. And in those that's when it comes back to kind of bread man, like in the 10th, 11th, 12th round, like bro, he should have said what we just said Any means necessary. You need to win, you're losing Not. I love you, kid, I love you Win or lose.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be there next to you.
Speaker 3:I also think it comes down to his strength and conditioning coach. Yeah, yeah, he was with Larry Wade, who's a famous strength and condition coach, he might be vaping on the side of something. Bro, he fired Larry Wade after the Benavidez fight.
Speaker 1:Really I don't want to say he fired him. He's been with a different guy for these last two fights Really and it's like that's the new product bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he faded quick and again we're kind of taking a lot away from Resendez.
Speaker 3:But I'm not taking a lot from Resendez because Resendez hit him with some shit bro.
Speaker 1:He did, but he didn't see the best Caleb plant, so we can't really judge him off of that.
Speaker 3:He honestly didn't look like a top super middleweight to me.
Speaker 2:At all. Tapatio Right. Tapatal underscore nine. I gotta get you real there. I'm just gonna call you hot sauce now.
Speaker 2:So hot sauce says caleb style street ball player hot sauce yeah, this is him right here, man one hot sauce says caleb style, eats a lot of his gas and won't get better when he gets older, especially versus pressure guys. Then he goes on to say shout out to Resendez's trainer. He's been coaching up wins this year. Last win was Beck the Bully. I believe Was that the same trainer. Maybe he missed the Beck the Bully fight.
Speaker 3:Beck, the Bully's trainer is Joel Diaz, I thought.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I thought too.
Speaker 3:I don't think that's who Armando trains with. I thought, yeah, that's what I thought too.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's who Armando trains with. Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Whatever he is right about plant style, because he was always a boxer he was never a power guy.
Speaker 2:No, never. We used to call him Caleb Pillowhands. I remember that was going around Damn Well, when Lara got older, he started to shit out more because his legs ain't the same. And it's like caleb has to do that, but like he don't have, I think or two with with the charlo build-up too. Right, like they, he smacked them. They became friends. Caleb had that dog in him then and then since then I think he lost that dog like silk sheets since then he got the canelo it's.
Speaker 1:I know that he got mad different shit.
Speaker 2:I gotta give him this, though I gotta give him this, though, because a lot of people up what I saw on X or Twat or whatever you call it were going off about how, like, oh, he only fights once a year. He only fights once a year, yeah, but he fought Canelo and Benavidez like back to back. Come on and Durrell, yeah, yeah, but Canelo and Benavidez, like you got to give him his.
Speaker 2:He's also fought back-to-back tune-up fights against guys who were unheralded, and he got hurt in both of them. Yeah, true, hey man, it's that white alcohol. It's that white alcoholic skin man.
Speaker 1:If you get a new training condition coach, you got to be careful Because a lot of people are popping dirty. Out here, a lot of people are popping dirty.
Speaker 3:He's a strength and condition coach for byu athletics. He got a job offer from the ufc to work at their pi yeah he turned it down because they were offering the same thing byu is offering him.
Speaker 3:I was talking to him earlier today. He's like oh yeah, like I watched it. He's like the whoever his strength and condition coach is either didn't push him hard enough or pretty much set him up for failure. It's probably just giving him routine shit and didn't actually like challenge him or do have him do shit to build upon oh, he probably was like I'm not doing this shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I don't know. He probably took that guy lightly.
Speaker 3:Bro, for real but here's, here's where most of caleb's plans, like respect, comes from right, because it's not his wins. His best win is durell, and then it was katagi yeah, it was because of the fact that he fought benavidez and canelo, and he fought them both hard. He knocked out you know he's got swagger.
Speaker 3:He knocked out durell in those sick ass shoes and he has he has like swagger to him, smack and charlo, like we talked about, but it's like when you lose to a guy like armando resendez there's no respect there other than the general respect you give somebody for getting in the ring.
Speaker 2:And then I could piggyback off that what he said after they're like oh, you still get the Charlo fight and now Charlo's chomping at the bit for that and that's still a money fight. And he goes oh, I'm going to explore my rematch clause or something like that. It's like yeah.
Speaker 3:It's match close or something like that.
Speaker 2:It's like, yeah, it's hard it's hard not to want uh right away not to want to get that lick back right away.
Speaker 3:So there's a thing, though, too. Back to his last fight mccombie we were talking about earlier how he fights. Pacheco, like mccombie, made a name for himself in that plant fight because he's able to hurt him and he's able to rock now, yeah, exactly so now, if mccombie performs man, this is he might be taking McCombie's in a win-win situation.
Speaker 2:What if he?
Speaker 3:doesn't perform, though what if Pacheco goes out there and lights him the fuck up? Pacheco is going to get what he deserves. But I'm saying, what if McCombie looked better? Because Plant is definitely declining.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I led with and you told me to hold off. Yeah, no, no, you're right. No, no, it was good, but no, you're right. But honestly, what that says to me, if that happens, what you just said, like McCombie gets lit up. Props to Steven Nelson. Steven Nelson's stock rises.
Speaker 3:Well, steven's tough I think his stock rose from that fight either way, because he's a tough dude. What I'm just saying is we put McCombie got a lot of respect for that, for how he overperformed versus expectations.
Speaker 2:Basically, what you're saying is is it McCombie?
Speaker 3:Is.
Speaker 2:McCombie that good, or is Caleb on the heavy decline.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure, that fight's going to prove a lot. Yeah, and I also feel bad for Charlo, because it's like Charlo, he don't have a big win, neither. If you think about it, his biggest win is Derevyanchenko, julian Williams. They don't have no big fights.
Speaker 2:No, and his layoff is another thing. Yeah, two of them or three of them, I don't know. Man, Coming off that layoff and everything you just said, that jab was still that jab was.
Speaker 3:But what I'm saying is what?
Speaker 1:fight. Is he going?
Speaker 3:to get?
Speaker 1:What fight is he going to get?
Speaker 3:yeah, Is he going to get Resendez, which nobody's going to pay for. That.
Speaker 2:No, is he going to get the Plant fight, which just lost a lot of interest also, too, with with plant I I'll I'll still not that I've lost respect for him. It is what it is. But like if he fights right away, say he takes the rematch clause right away, right, and like fights twice this year, or jump jumps right into the charlo fight right away, that's another thing, because this, this newer version of kayla plant, we've been given an excuse because he fought Canelo and Benavidez back-to-back. I get it, he's not fighting like he used to be, but it also could be the opposite. It could be because he's got silk sheets and he's rich and he has two kids on the way and his wife is beautiful.
Speaker 3:Two straight fights that weren't worth him getting up for.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, to be honest, yeah that him getting up for yeah, yeah, yeah, that too, that's a lot for a lot these fighters, a lot of fighters, and he's getting old too.
Speaker 3:He's getting old. That's where it gets hard. It gets hard for both of them because, like, what do you do next if it's not each other? Because it's like they're both 33. In a month charlotte turns 35. They don't have time to wait. Another like for plant especially.
Speaker 3:He doesn't have the time this is getting old aging yeah he's getting old, you don't have the time to take a year off, but you also don't want to rush back too soon. So it's like finding that window of opportunity. But I don't know if he goes back to that fight, that that shit that he said after the fight last night, where he's like I thought I did good. That's another thing. Like, bro, if you think you won that fight or if you think you did well in that fight, you're probably not going to win the rematch and you're definitely not going to win the Charlo fight.
Speaker 2:No, because there's like he was raising, even when they were raising his hand, when the ref was about to, when they were announcing who won or whatever he was like and me and Jerry were watching it. We're like what the fuck he thinks he won.
Speaker 3:I was like there's no way.
Speaker 2:And then they said but then they said split decision.
Speaker 3:When they said split, I was like they better not rob, bro, they better not rob bro, and that's from a fanboy, that's from like a child.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's from his biggest fans.
Speaker 3:I was like they better not rob this dude.
Speaker 3:Then when he, like everybody, always thinks I'm a Devin hater because I make fun of him, like, oh, I can't believe you're not shaming Ryan for doing steroids. There's no idea. It has nothing to do with who. I wanted to win that fight. What bothers me is that when that happened, everything got pinned on Ryan taking Osterling. There was no accountability from devin haney, who made real mistakes in that fight, who had serious technical flaws in that fight and last night was the same thing, even though he's one of my favorite fighters of all time like not taking any account of like I get it. Your ego, yeah, is bruised heavily at that moment, but behind closed doors. If he's not taking accountability, that's not good. No, because there's a lot he did wrong last night.
Speaker 2:There's probably a lot that he did leading up to it his, his legs were gone in the back half, like when I tuned in his legs there in the beginning. Yeah, so I missed the beginning but his legs were gone in the back half and maybe entrances looked terrible.
Speaker 3:His jab wasn't landing. Where'd he come?
Speaker 1:out to. I can't even remember.
Speaker 3:Because I was cooking leading up to that fight.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I mean, what's next? He has two options it's either a rematch or Charlo, I guess. I guess him and his team will sit down. And again, I don't want to talk about what he said too much after, because, as a fighter, when you come right off a loss like that, it's hard to matriculate what's going through your mind. He's going to go back, watch the film. He's going to reevaluate, he's going to talk to his wife.
Speaker 1:And it's like what if he's, if he's pillow hands down?
Speaker 2:I don't think he should go to 175 yeah, and again. He's in a tough spot right now and and the concept of the show is just like. I don't think Tio should go up to 147. Like, stay where you're at.
Speaker 3:Can we take a quick break? Yeah, I was pissed myself.
Speaker 2:I was just going to say me too, and I'm going to mix another drink. We're an hour in. I'm going to timestamp this. It's going to stay live and we will be right back I'll be right back Fucking my shoulder up. Alright, we are back. First ever piss break on the Sparring Boxing Podcast.
Speaker 3:It felt so great you guys ever watching the finals at all I mean, Willie, we watching the finals.
Speaker 2:You're the basketball guy.
Speaker 1:I mean the Knicks, depressing.
Speaker 3:I'm a Troubleshoes fan, bro, don't start. But I can't stand watching Shea Gillis Alexander play basketball, bro. It's excruciating.
Speaker 2:Is he zesty? Or is it just me Keeping it? Pg-13.
Speaker 3:I don't think he's. I mean, they're all kind of zesty nowadays. I'm not going to lie, but I'm serious, the way they dress.
Speaker 2:Well sure, yeah, yeah, halliburton too bro, he got the white girls. I heard. I heard He'd be having a bunch of them.
Speaker 1:I heard that yeah, you can't say nothing about him.
Speaker 3:He'd be having a bunch of them. Good for him, bro. Good for him.
Speaker 1:He'd be playing in the snow.
Speaker 2:All yeah, my Knicks lost, so I'm probably honestly, if it's on and I'm home hanging out, yeah, but I'm not going to go.
Speaker 3:I'll watch the Stanley.
Speaker 2:Cup. I like hockey now I can't watch basketball, no more. Playoff hockey is great. I wish I'm too far removed. Me too, I'm too far removed from hockey to become a fan. Yeah, but I wish I wasn't.
Speaker 3:That's not how I am with baseball. Baseball like. I'll watch baseball sparingly but I can't. I can't like lock in. I'll go live parents, my grandparents, they sit at home and they drink miller light and watch every single diamondbacks baseball game.
Speaker 1:It's insane, that's awesome I can't watch that, like I don't know how people watch it now, because I don't have cable, no more, so it's like I don't.
Speaker 3:Oh, you're the stream and everything yeah, I don't know I can't watch it oh my god, did you see how much money it would cost to watch all the football games this year?
Speaker 1:I've seen that shit, it's on everything. Amazon Peacock. Now, punchline is the only one I got Peacock.
Speaker 2:Nah, I got everything too honestly, I gotta like go look, because what I did recently and then we'll get right back into boxing this is a long episode. Um, what I did recently was I looked on, like my, my phone of, like my, what I'm subscribed to, and I'm like what the fuck is all? I got like 20 editing things. I think I said this last show too, like I'm like yo, I gotta delete this shit. And then then I'm thinking I got something. It's called because I'm a gambler it was Sunrise Stream and it was some D2 basketball team, something like that.
Speaker 3:I share accounts with a lot of people, so that helps me out.
Speaker 1:But they started to buckle down on that too. You can't have this much household. There's many TVs and shit Like Netflix. Bitch, I'm about to take this shit off my shit.
Speaker 2:Well, DAZN was like the worst we can get right back into boxing. Dazn started with like no Remember. They were advertising years ago.
Speaker 1:Fuck DAZN too. We pay for the app and then we can't watch the fights. Like re-watch the fights the day after.
Speaker 3:We gotta wait until it comes up free for like two weeks and they raise prices on their shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah always, always raising prices.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm about to delete this shit too.
Speaker 3:It's like Apple always hit me with these random ass charges. Yo, I don't even know what.
Speaker 1:I see my PayPal just be like $15. Random ass charges.
Speaker 3:I see my PayPal. It'd just be like $15. Paypal Apple yeah yeah, Random like $5.99 shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like dude my no motherfuckers are laundering money.
Speaker 2:I know it. I'm getting like all these OnlyFans statements and I'm like what is this? What is this thing? I don't know what. This is you a freaky motherfucker?
Speaker 3:I'm kidding, you know what, though I criticize you for being into OnlyFans and shit. I literally just entered a contest two days ago to win a brick of soap made entirely out of Sidney.
Speaker 1:Sweeney's bath water. Oh my God, you did. I was like you know what, bro, I posted that shit. I reposted that.
Speaker 3:It probably exfoliates your skin. Though I get it, I'm not going to use it. I'm just going to smell it every day.
Speaker 2:All right, we're going to keep this PG-13.
Speaker 1:Who is this?
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 3:She's at all fair. We'll tell you who she is. I can't name a single. She's an actress. I can't name a single thing. She's in oh my God, maddie.
Speaker 2:But she produces great bath soap. It exfoliates, it gets rid of your blackheads.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to say nobody's name, but he said the same thing. He said I would. I'm like you know All right Back to boxing.
Speaker 2:We got a lot to talk about here with boxing. The rest of the Keyshawn I'm sorry Keyshawn Davis is fighting. We're done with Kayla Plant, right yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm heartbroken. I don't want you talking about it.
Speaker 2:Alright, we will move on. So we spoke on the white folk and now we're going to get to a card that has no white folk. Keyshawn Davis versus Edwin De Los Santos Top-ranked card. Keyshawn's hometown, norfolk, norfolk, yeah.
Speaker 1:We can't go there because Puma got bad energy.
Speaker 2:Nah dude they got bad energy with me. Man, the Virginians don't like me for some reason, but I have something written up about that too I'll talk about. But let's get into the undercard first and then we'll go into Keyshawn. I mean, listen, there's a lot of cool fighters on this card that we want to see. The only fight to me on the undercard that kind of like is like okay, that that could be a good one is albright versus kelvin davis, the brother of kishan.
Speaker 3:Okay, um, because all shot, fought all right right yeah, and that's who we fought when he smoked weed? Yeah, exactly I was gonna go.
Speaker 2:It went the distance, but they got ruled to no contest. So Kelvin is trying to avenge his brother's no contest, it's a no contest for weed bro For weed in Texas. Yeah, the Texas Commission. You know what If?
Speaker 3:you beat somebody by decision, mind you, and you're high on weed. You deserve that win, Whoever made that rule has never smoked weed before. I can't even make my bed if I'm high. That fool went out there and beat a legit fighter. Give him the win, bro. Give him the win.
Speaker 2:It's so stupid because it's legal in a bunch of states.
Speaker 1:It's like almost a performance enhancement. Sometimes it depends. You can start getting in a zone. You ever play basketball high, Nuh-uh Boy. It's either you even bad or you really good. You ever play basketball high, Nah Boy. It's either you even bad or you really good. You start seeing.
Speaker 3:The only thing I'm good at when I'm high is coming up with shit.
Speaker 1:Like coming up with ideas. No, coming up with ideas is a pure Bro. You are you you, you.
Speaker 2:He texts me some shit. Sometimes he's like oh sorry, I'm real high.
Speaker 1:I'm like damn dude, you're like little wayne yeah, my scissor bro that's how I come up with shit. I used to make up dances doing that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, not high, and just make up dance, not me back back in my heyday, fucking. The room would spin and I'd fall asleep, so I started drinking that's like, that's edibles.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I ain't gonna bro you ever done the liquid ones a liquid, yeah, you take it into the drink. One where?
Speaker 2:it's like 15 one bottle in one bottle we all vibe too much.
Speaker 1:We got to stand there for the pink cane.
Speaker 3:Bro, I learned the hard way. You're not supposed to drink all of those liquid edibles. It's like you take a little bottle cap of them and that's like eating one edible. I drank the whole bottle at once. It was like taking 15 edibles Bro. I thought I was going to die.
Speaker 1:Jesus, I thought I was going to die one time too high as hell All right, but Keyshawn did not think he was going to die.
Speaker 2:He got rid of the milk contest.
Speaker 1:No, he was really high during the fight. No, no, he smoked. No, not at all, he smoked weed, I guess before the fight.
Speaker 3:I think he admitted to it too. I don't want to falsely say shit, but I'm pretty sure he owned up to it, by the way, that fight shouldn't have been a no contest.
Speaker 2:There's a bunch of friends of ours on the card Not friends, but people we like on the card One friend, Troy Isley.
Speaker 3:He's a friend of ours, troy Isley's, on the card.
Speaker 2:I'm really cool with Tiger, tiger's on the card, delonte Johnson, tiger Johnson's on the card, tiger's. Cool as hell too. But the only fight that really stands out to me, aside from, I mean, even, keyshawn versus we'll get there in a minute. We're going to obviously talk about that Kelvin Davis versus Nahir Albright. He went the distance with Jermaine Ortiz. He did go the distance with Keyshawn too, so that fight is a little interesting. It's a step-up fight for Kelvin, yeah, and Kelvin's not, as good as Keyshawn or Keyon.
Speaker 1:Absolutely not.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:And this is a big fight for him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he's home.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if he show out he can get his. You know what I'm saying? He kind of like probably had them, kept them all in boxing. He lost heart in boxing already because he dipped off and he's back, keon's on the card too, the whole fam's on the card. So this is going to be a good fight for him.
Speaker 2:And for the record. For the record, I have to say this every time I am a Keyshawn fan, Like I like Keyshawn, Just his. When they came to MSG man, like Virginia came to MSG.
Speaker 1:He got family out here.
Speaker 2:I don't understand why they did not like my personality or something, but whatever, I don't care. I'm a Keyshawn fan. It is what it is. I'm also a Tito fan and I would love for them, too, to fight. But let's just into quichon davis versus de los santos. Um, but I I want to lead in with real quick. Boxing is back again. We took a little break in may. June heats up.
Speaker 3:Here we are yeah, june and july are good yeah and um.
Speaker 2:You know, we like we started the show with, though we need seasons too, because fucking I'm going to be single in a studio apartment above a shithole bar and I don't want to be. So let's just talk about Keyshawn. Sorry, I'm getting sidetracked now, like I'm high, yeah, what do you got? Obviously, we're all back in Keyshawn, right, we're not?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I want De Los Santos to do well, like I got him on. Thanks for Playing. He's going to be wearing our shirts, he's going to be wearing Adams. So I got him on two things. Oh, really Cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for those who don't get him on Adams.
Speaker 3:He was already on Adams. Shout yourself out real quick too, if people made it this far. Uh, who you work for? I know you did it last episode. Yeah, so I work for. Thanks for playing the t-shirt company.
Speaker 2:I get a lot of fighters sponsored by them and then great t-shirts too yeah, great great, great t-shirts seriously and I'm not just saying that the t-shirts I'm going to give people for free are not as good um, and then the, the boxing shoes too, and and I'm I haven't yeah, I have no affiliation, they introduced me to him, just they're like yo, you should meet this guy. You guys have like similar personality. Those are your favorite boxing shoes yo, those boxing shoes are are are dope for real uh I just I'm.
Speaker 3:I'm should be getting a proposal, but uh, he's at least going to be wearing them for his next fight. But it's a. Quinn moses got him signed to the brand hey, quinn, yeah, that's fire.
Speaker 1:I'm so excited. Yeah, get him while they're young.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah and then he asked he asked me the other day he's like yo uh, shakur wants to try a pair of the ones you sent me. Can you send me one? I'm like, yeah for sure, absolutely. I don't think shakur is going to wear it. I think sh Shakur still has a deal with Reebok or somebody. But the fact that he just wanted to try them and the fact that I was able to do that.
Speaker 2:If we do Bump into Shakur In the coming weeks, I will Give you a shout out. Shakur doesn't seem very fan friendly, especially of drunk white guys, but I'm going to be there.
Speaker 3:I'm the one I don't know. He probably might not even remember it, but I met with Manscaped, with their vice president, two years ago. Oh yeah, it's a good story.
Speaker 2:It's a good story. Tell this. This is a good story.
Speaker 3:So remember when Shakur fought the Brazilian dude Canc say so.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because I thought that was a tough fight and he missed weight in that fight and he missed weight for that fight so he lost his belt and then the next fight he moved up to 135.
Speaker 3:So I reached out to Shakur's team. From the email on his account I was like, hey, I got a pretty good idea to do a sponsorship thing with Manscaped the Razors. I'd love to meet with you about it. I met with his camp manager, which was his cousin, jihad, and I explained it to him. They liked it. He he talked to shakur about it. He's like yeah, dude, we're down, go ahead. So I reached out to manscaped, got the meeting with them, told them like, look, I'm here on behalf of shakur, here's the proof. I was like here's the idea.
Speaker 3:I was like, because everything everybody's like the in boxing people think is dead. But when you get inside the sport you look everything everybody's like in boxing people think it's dead. And when you get inside the sport you look at it. There's like a lot going on, there's a lot of interaction, there's a lot of media about it. It's just the outside world doesn't see that.
Speaker 3:So I was like the three things that most people talk about about boxing on social media is either like something directly related to a fight, a fight getting announced, a fight result whatever. The other thing is when fighters talk shit. And the third thing is when a fighter who has a lot of popularity, fans and haters if they fuck up they get arrested, whatever. Like all the social media and boxing is going to talk about that. It's like I got a way to do all three and it's easy to pull off. Shakur missed weight in his last fight. And it's easy to pull off shakur missed weight in his last fight. If you do a thing about like an hour before weigh-ins this fight and do a false flag like a fake report saying shakur might miss weight again and he's struggling to get down to the weight limit, social media is going to blow up with that, talking shit about him, saying all these things don't give everyone your secrets, don't get it.
Speaker 2:We're not that famous yet, but one day we all will be like Dang, like Jamal's Charles said like y'all can't fuck with me.
Speaker 3:You can't fuck with me, bro, when it comes up to this idea. So the plan was for this fake news report to come out about him possibly missing weight. Yeah, I'll get all the social media talking about it. Devin Haney is probably going to say something because he never misses an opportunity to talk shit and get it on camera. Last ditch effort ever miss is an opportunity to stalk shit and get it on camera. Last-ditch effort to make weight, he has to shave body hair with one of manscaped's razors. That's the whole.
Speaker 3:Thing and that's smart as hell. They said no, they're like it's too gimmicky. I'm like you don't? You just don't understand boxing. Then this is like like you think it's gimmicky because you know it's not real, but you don't, like you're not looking at it from a perspective of somebody who doesn't know that.
Speaker 1:But social media Like what? That's crazy Social media, Fake things is always going on. That's not real and the truth on the lie is better than the truth. It'd be bigger than the truth.
Speaker 3:And then all the social media reports like oh, shakur has to use a manscape razor to make weight. Everybody's gonna talk about that yeah, exactly all the advertisement for your product is gonna get done by people so like did you think of that?
Speaker 2:did you think of that while you were high?
Speaker 3:most likely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was corny. They, they. Why did they take that leap, man? That would have been crazy, I don't know it would have hit.
Speaker 2:It would have hit, definitely would hit that's what I'm saying um either way so if, if we do bump into him though I will, I will because because I know you said that he wanted to try I don't want to get in trouble, but he may or may not.
Speaker 3:We sent him a pair. We said okay, okay.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I'll, I'll let him know you're uh, we know you, we know your body. I won't say it like that. Say it like that I don't know what I'll say Y'all both can be a little bit too freaky.
Speaker 3:I might have to dick like fucking. Oh, okay, you knew he's got a dick like Shane McMahon. What?
Speaker 2:Alright, anyway, keisha.
Speaker 1:Davis.
Speaker 3:Imagine if I fanned out with Caleb Plant like that Just like you knocked out Anthony Durrell. Did you know that I'm white too?
Speaker 1:you know just in case you were wanting to hang out or something.
Speaker 3:Keyshawn Davis, remember the thing I told you about De Los Santos? Do you think we? Should say that on air. Yeah, about the age and the no about his legs, bro, oh um, yeah, say whatever you want like I'm not gonna say who told me say p, say, say, say what, you say, what you know. But just keep it, just don't just think of shadow banning because well, no, no, no, it's not that I just I don't want to put business out there, but I was talking. Oh, if you feel it's not, right, don.
Speaker 2:just I don't want to put business out there, but I was talking to you.
Speaker 3:If you feel it's not right, Don't, but whatever whatever you want to feel, right, I just I don't care, we don't have a shit bad. But um, I was talking to uh, I was talking to a guy I know he trains out of good matchmaking. He's like, just like kishan. Like kishan, yeah, he beat a legit world champion, but like, now they're giving him de los santos just because de los santos kind of has a name from when he fought shakur. And he's like, but like, why do you think he's been out of the ring so long and he's got fucking blood clots in his legs?
Speaker 3:yeah, oh, you did say that I don't know but, like not not to you know make the guy who told me that you know feel a certain type of way. I don't know if it's true or not. I don't know where he got that information from.
Speaker 2:It might. Maybe he had something going on, but I don't think the like the boxing athletic commissions are pretty strict.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:That's a liability right there, like in the NBA, when you get blood clots in like your arm, they done they be done. You know what?
Speaker 3:I mean Look at Dane.
Speaker 1:So who knows, wimby?
Speaker 2:He was the next face of the NBA, so, that being said, boxing is dirtier.
Speaker 1:Boxing is grungy, let me not.
Speaker 3:I was about to say they're allowing a 46-year-old Pacquiao to fight. Come on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Vegas, vegas. You think he got the jab? All right, let me know he's shadowed me, pacquiao. No, no, I'm talking about De Los Santos.
Speaker 3:Oh, oh no.
Speaker 1:I don't know A lot of people that got that thing.
Speaker 3:He got that Johnson Johnson special.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, anyway, here we go, it's always at the end.
Speaker 1:It's always at the end.
Speaker 3:Yeah, jets.
Speaker 2:J-E-T-S Jets, Jets, Jets. We always get banned at the end. Anyway, let's talk about the fight itself, though. You know what I want to see from the fight itself Keyshawn again to the Virginians. I'm rooting for Keyshawn. I want to see another stoppage.
Speaker 1:I want to see that.
Speaker 2:Oh man, we can knock him out. I want to see Keyshawn get hit with some shit, though, because this is the hardest puncher he's fought in a long while.
Speaker 1:And say what you want about De Los Santos. We say that, but Keyshawn is, so he's big man. So is Edwin, though, edwin isn't small, edwin is, but he looked kind of small against Shakur. Shakur made him look small, but he couldn't catch Shakur.
Speaker 2:I don't know, nah. Nah, he looked big versus Shakur. He looked big versus Shakur.
Speaker 1:Shakur's type big too.
Speaker 3:Yeah too. Yeah, he looks big, bro, shakur looks big in a ring. Shakur is big, but Edwin looks like he looks like he is.
Speaker 1:I think Kishore is probably bigger than all of them, Probably yeah, well, look at Edwin versus.
Speaker 3:Rayo.
Speaker 1:He looked big versus Rayo.
Speaker 3:There was talk about Edwin going to 140 after that, Shakur fight Edwin's big dude.
Speaker 1:He's a big dude at 135. I feel like he was too big against Shakur Because.
Speaker 2:Shakur was fucking yeah, because you couldn't catch him. But in this fight we can compare Keyshawn and I'm going to get into that in one second and then we're going to close out the show because it's been way too long but Keyshawn does not fight like Shakur Two totally different styles. He actually fights yeah, and you're right, and this isn't a knock on Shakur but Keyshawn isn't going to back up like that. He's not as defensively sound. But my only gripe with Keyshawn is I want to see if he can take a hit. He's great, I like him, he does everything well, but I want to see him get hit with some shit and see how he bounces back. You know what I mean. Like when has Keyshawn got hit with some shit? I want to see him get hit.
Speaker 3:I know that Lemos guy cracked him. Yeah, I even had that video about him but he's like he didn't feel nothing.
Speaker 2:But did you see how much bigger he was than Lemos too? Yeah, he's huge.
Speaker 1:Edwin De Los Santos is a big-ass dude I want to see, because I want to see how big he is. I want to see him get it.
Speaker 2:And Keyshawn's key to victory. His key to victory, for me, is body, body, head, body, body, head, because he's so big. One thing, though, I will say is we're going to see, because he's not like Shakur.
Speaker 1:I think this is going to be an exciting fight. It could be a potential fight of the year so far. If we can get there. Depends on how. On De Los Santos, if he lasts or not.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying, though. Say De Los Santos, how big he is. He comes in and he pops Keyshawn with some shit quick and stuns him. I want to see what Keyshawn does Again. I think Keyshawn's going to win no matter what, but I want to see what he does. I want to see how you respond going forward. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like he's never been hit with some shit, the second half of the fight is gonna be huge yeah yeah facts that legs thing is real yeah, if that's real, and and with the size that making 135 that big, that's, that's another thing. Let's see what the weigh-in looks like too. I want to see that Before I bet. I want to see the weigh-in.
Speaker 3:I'm just because 135 is kind of in a shitty spot right, Like you got names in it, but it's like the names, like a lot of them, are cool with each other.
Speaker 2:So I was going to get there too. Like, say, keyshawn dismantles De Los Santos, right.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:This would be the perfect storm for Keyshawn versus Shakur, but it's 2025 and they want to be best friends. Keep it business, just keep it business. He's moving 140, right, yeah, but still still like imagine Keyshawn versus Shakur.
Speaker 3:The good thing is that Two Olympians.
Speaker 2:That's crazy.
Speaker 3:I don't think that fight.
Speaker 2:They both said Keyshawn was adamant about it. He's like I will never fight Shakur, that's going to be at the crazy end. I don't like that man. If you were Michael Jordan and I'm LeBron James and we're the same age but we're best friends. We grew up together and you're like yo, let's play one-on-one for all the marbles live on YouTube. And then Larry Bird comes in. He comes in right and we do King of the Court or something right. I'd be like, yeah, that's awesome, bro, and we'll be best friends after.
Speaker 1:Well, here's the other thing, though at the end of the day it's a sport but they not hating each other, but it's a sport.
Speaker 3:It's a sport. They're not even it's not hitting each other, bro, but it's a sport.
Speaker 1:Man, yeah, but that mental that mental element that you need in that yes, you got it. There's so much pressure the build, the build up for is not going to be everyone's sparred everyone's sparred the build up is not going to be the same, but everyone's sparred.
Speaker 2:Everyone's sparred.
Speaker 3:The buildup is not going to be the same. I'm talking about in a real fight. That's like a love spar. That's the problem, though that's the problem with Think about this though, bro. Think about that. Let's say you're a fighter. Let's say you're a shipper. You got over a million followers on Instagram alone. Your teammates in practice in football.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying You're not trying to hurt them. That's what I'm saying. This fight is not going to be built up right. It's not.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying it's that, but you're walking out there. You're walking out there. There's so much on the line on a fight of that level. You got millions of people watching live. You got thousands of people there. You got everybody on social media who's saying things before and after the fight and these guys are like like where do they go mentally before?
Speaker 2:but it's it's a win-win.
Speaker 3:It's a win-win yeah, I just I don't think it's a good fight. I don't think it's a good fight, basically it's not a win-win they'd be so apprehensive. You know what I'm saying yeah until yeah.
Speaker 2:But everybody has a, like you said, like like the. The story goes everyone has a plan to get punched in the face. Like if my best friend, like if Willie, if Willie I love Willie, right, I'll take a bullet for Willie. If he just stalled off and punched me in the face, I might shoot Willie. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Like I'm dead. Hey, I'm done. I'm done. What happened to?
Speaker 3:like this whole. Justification for the fight was who cares? If they're friends, they should just fight each other.
Speaker 1:This is not good. The point I'm making is if y'all love, that did not sound right.
Speaker 3:No think about that though, willie, his whole argument for the reason for that fight should be made. He's like who cares? If they're friends, they should just fight. And then his thing is like if my best friend hits me, I'm going to kill him, I'm going to shoot him, I'm going to shoot him.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm exaggerating, but the point I'm making, the point I'm making is like You're going to shoot the black boy. I've seen Willie spar his friends. I've seen Willie spars friends right. I've seen it firsthand. It's good friends and Willie gets hit in the face and he goes different and, as you know, you sparred, we all sparred. When you get punched, when your nose gets hit right, it's different. I read out, I just read out yeah, like your boy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but no.
Speaker 2:We're going to have an extended show, he said he's going to shoot me.
Speaker 1:At the point I was exaggerating. I remember that I don't want to be here. I don't feel comfortable.
Speaker 3:Shut up. I want to remind the crowd and the audience.
Speaker 1:That I'm not. I was here.
Speaker 3:I'm not complicit with this.
Speaker 2:I'm not assisting, here we go again Anyway. Keyshawn Davis and Alvin Dale Santos. This is my point, though implicit with this. I'm not assisting, here we go again anyway.
Speaker 3:Keisha davis this is my point, though this was the part I was trying to make earlier.
Speaker 3:Here's the good news is that most people believe, myself included, that because top ranks contract with esp and it's up in august and bob is already doing a lot of work with the saudis into the zone, loaning out his fighters, so the the general consensus is that top rank is moving to DAZN after that, which means fights with guys like, you know, not just Shakur, but Zapata, kid, austin they're all there now, even the guys up at 140 if he has to move up.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So let me ask you something then Kid Austin, what is he doing?
Speaker 3:now, well, he's fighting tevin farmer on the jake. Oh, that's, that's a good fight.
Speaker 2:If and the only issue I have with this fight was and and I was wrong, the last time, older now I did not think. I did not think tevin would be able to get up for there's a pay to fight right the the second one, I was like there's no way Tevin could do that twice. And he did, he did, he lost or whatever, but he got up for that fight and he showed up.
Speaker 3:Also, too, we don't know what Kid Austin is. Both times he's had a big fight scheduled, they fell through.
Speaker 2:He got sick.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he got real sick, Well he got sick against Shakur, and then the fight against Sylve fell through.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know who else got sick Dubois.
Speaker 1:Yo, that sounds my boy really. Probably was really sick.
Speaker 3:Isn't it crazy how he got sick and had to pull out of his fight with Joseph Parker and then Joseph Parker wins and Dubois just gets a title shot.
Speaker 2:That's wild boxing, and I'm not gonna lie. I was never like a big Joseph Parker fan.
Speaker 1:I've grown to like him more. They probably didn't want to do what they ended up losing Did you see what Joseph Parker posted recently.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not even gonna say it, just go look at Joseph Parker's Instagram and look at the song and look what he posted. Bro, he's funny on the internet. He's a funny-ass guy on the internet. Ah shit, look later. It's buzzing.
Speaker 3:I don't know if that's me, because my shit's in.
Speaker 2:Nah, you like, touched the phone and it started my internet. Isn't that bad man.
Speaker 3:Are you talking about the shit where he's doing like rows, like on the fucking machine.
Speaker 2:No, there's a song. There's a song with it, a famous song. There's a song with it A famous song.
Speaker 1:Hold on Moment of silence.
Speaker 2:Whatever, Just look later. It is funny and you know what that was with Dubois. And again, I don't hate Dubois. I just know Usyk second time around is going to fucking dismantle him, but I don't hate Dubois. I just know Usyk second time around is going to fucking dismantle him, but I don't hate Dubois.
Speaker 1:Was that punch below the belt?
Speaker 3:What you mean, punchlines.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:Was it punchline though. You like cut out.
Speaker 1:Oh, I said punch Du Bois against Usyk.
Speaker 3:No, that looked like a clean shot to me. A clean, yes, it looked like it was right on the belt line.
Speaker 1:This guy. What happened? I don't know.
Speaker 3:It was a weird angle, it was a weird, it was a weird situation, um one of those things where it's like because you're thinking like he still, he still quit after that fight, after.
Speaker 1:Thank you yeah, no, he definitely did but so, all right, we're gonna.
Speaker 2:We're gonna keep it moving. What's, what's your prediction, real quick, for quichon versus de los santos? Do you have any bets? You're not a gambling man, like I'm not a gambler.
Speaker 3:But I do like to look at the over under sometimes. Yeah, like I get general feelings about like if a guy will knock somebody out or yeah, so what do you think about quichon versus de los santos?
Speaker 2:I don't know what the over under is.
Speaker 3:I have no idea, man if it is, I like I like to do group round betting though, so.
Speaker 2:So give me like one through four, one through three, eight through ten.
Speaker 3:Eight through ten. I think you saw some eight through ten, maybe even six or seven.
Speaker 1:Seven through nine.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to lie Because of Keyshawn's last fight and the dude behind us who didn't like us. Fourth round yeah, he's just in my ear. Fourth round, fourth round, didn't like you. Who didn't like us? Fourth round yeah, he's just in my ear. Fourth round, fourth round, didn't like you, didn't like me. Yeah, I wonder why he kept going. Fourth round, fourth round, fourth round. And I was like whatever.
Speaker 2:I thought Keyshaw was going to knock him out, but I didn't think it would be the fourth round. So I bet him $100, shook on it and I lost. He knocked him out in the fourth fucker. Yeah, he beat the shit out of the other chick and I wasn't expecting that. I was expecting it later, but I paid the man. I always pay my debts, except what I got going on in my credit card. But I paid the man and it is what it is. I think Keyshawn sparks him early. Really, yeah, just because, again, I want to see Keyshawn get hit with some shit. The only thing negating my bet is that if Keyshawn gets hit with some real shit because Edwin has pop, just cancel the Shakur fight. Edwin has pop, right. If Keyshawn gets hit with some shit that makes him fight defensively he could go over, but I'm going to go under six.
Speaker 3:Under six. It's ballsy, but I'm going to go under six.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's that ballsy. That's probably good money.
Speaker 2:De Los Santos isn't going to run away. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:If that thing with his legs is true, he can't run away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a lot of ifs. That's my under six, under seven, whatever. I didn't look, but that's just offhand.
Speaker 3:I bet you it's something like nine and a half, eight and a half.
Speaker 2:Really, If it's that, hit the under hard. If it's that hit the under hard.
Speaker 3:If it's nine and a half, I'd hit under.
Speaker 2:If it's eight and a half, I'd go under Again. De Los Santos' only chance to not get knocked out or beat Keyshawn is to spark him early, and that's easier. Yeah, and that's easier said than done.
Speaker 1:Don't Keyshawn, that might turn him up. Yeah, nah, I don't know. We don't know when he get touched?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but we don't know, bro, we don't know, Because he's never been like. This dude is big. This dude is big. This dude's coming in there at like 165. Edwin's big.
Speaker 1:I don't know if he's that big. I don't think he's big.
Speaker 2:I'm exaggerating, but like you said before, if that blood clot shit is true, that means he has high cholesterol and he's eating yeah he's eating the Dominican shit, exactly Salami and plantains and shit Cheese. Sounds, so good Sounds so good that chicharron. Chicharron, everything but the next thing we want to talk about, and then we're going to close it out with this. We can't go an episode we already spoke about him once Wait TO again. Let me backtrack yo we talked about. Troy Isley, but Abdullah Mason's on the card too, Abdullah's on here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that's another one, just another name at 135. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know what?
Speaker 2:You heard what he said. You heard what he said, though he fight him. He said. He said if the business speaks, I'll fight anybody. They all say that, though, but, shakur, that's my problem.
Speaker 3:Shakur and Keyshawn didn't. Keyshawn wanted that Frank Martin fight for a while, but I bet you now, especially if they do go to the zone, he wants the Andy Cruz fight.
Speaker 2:I don't know if he wants that Andy Cruz fight.
Speaker 3:I think he wants the Andy Cruz fight.
Speaker 2:I think he thinks he beats him in the post Andy Cruz fight.
Speaker 3:I think he thinks he beats him in the pros, andy Cruz. Don't look bad though, bro yeah but he don't look.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's what makes it a good fight.
Speaker 3:I don't think being good scares him. I don't think he wants to fight Frank Martin, because Frank Martin looks bad.
Speaker 1:But he wanted revenge.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But that could go wrong too. You see how, when people got history of fighting each other, shit go left and Andy Cruz wants the Kishon fight.
Speaker 2:since he got into the pros, he wants the Kishon fight. So I don't know, but we'll cross that bridge if that bridge comes.
Speaker 3:But Abdullah is like I'm trying to think of a good comparison. The last time there was a fighter that good without a belt and you were just waiting, I would say Boots maybe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when Boots wasn't a champion at Welterweight, boots was great.
Speaker 3:This dude. We're just waiting for him to be champion.
Speaker 2:I hate to bring it up and we're going to go there next with what we're going to talk about. But Tio too, tio had that. He was knocking out dudes, he was doing everything, right.
Speaker 3:Punching behind his back and shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, y'all remember that. That's actually like that fight. I remember I'm sitting down here watching TO did a behind-the-back punch and I'm like I've never seen that in my life.
Speaker 3:The craziest one was when he jumped up and like punched down.
Speaker 2:What the fuck? That was versed like a seasoned pro. It wasn't like a nobody.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was a hot top rank. I'm going to go refill my drink real quick, guys, is that cool?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, me and Willie will just chop it up. And then we got to close it out. Willie's like I started at seven. What the fuck? All right, willie, how's life? Man, we're going to just, we're doing real podcast shit with the dance.
Speaker 1:Oh my shit's a shot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did legs the other day. My shit's a shot.
Speaker 1:My hip was fucked up. Today I gotta start training again, bro.
Speaker 2:I'm on vacation in June, the end of June. I want to put that other bag in the garage. I got a garage gym, ladies and gentlemen, garage boxing gym. You got the bag back. No, we gotta get it though.
Speaker 1:We and we got to. Yeah, you got the bag back.
Speaker 2:No, we got to get it, though we need your help. It's buried, I heard.
Speaker 1:I heard it's buried, so I need to get back in the gym.
Speaker 2:This is the problem, though. We get three dudes that vibe bro. We just yap Like like this is me and him after every fight and I'm pissed, drunk, piss, drunk on live like an idiot just yapping. I don't even remember half the shit we talk about.
Speaker 3:All right, he's back, we're gonna close out the show. And and again, can I answer the? Because I posted that thing. I was like if you guys have any questions, I'll answer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I got some if you, if you got a good one, let's make it under a minute so we could chop it up okay the this I guess this would be for everybody who's the most famous person you interacted with on Instagram?
Speaker 3:Oh shit.
Speaker 1:Oh I don't know.
Speaker 2:Most famous person you've ever interacted with on Instagram. You go first.
Speaker 3:So it doesn't count because it was from when Caleb collabed, but somebody who commented on my shit would be Shakur Shakur. Okay, yeah, shakur commented on one of my posts once, willie.
Speaker 2:Willie went viral. Shakur, okay yeah, shakur commented on one of my posts once Willie. Willie went viral. I'm not sure. Like in general, don't let it be about boxing.
Speaker 1:Oh, there's a lot of, I would say. I remember I was interacting with fucking Jocelyn, crazy ass. You know who Jocelyn is?
Speaker 2:I don't know Me neither.
Speaker 1:Stevie, the fucking Stevie, the fucking Hispanic lady that should be on Bad Girls Club. Whatever Love and Hip Hop.
Speaker 3:I've heard of it, I just never watched it.
Speaker 2:So for me it's either Amanda Serrano or Tia Fimo. I don't know who has more followers or who's more famous, but those are my two Amanda Serrano or Tio.
Speaker 3:Alright, the second one, ass or titties? My answer is yes uh-huh, mine too yeah say yes, oh yeah dude why does it?
Speaker 1:have to be either or no I'm down.
Speaker 3:I'm down with good ones of either ass or titties and they say yes.
Speaker 2:What? All of the above, c, d, d, all of the above, good call, I like ass. What was the third one?
Speaker 1:See, I kind of figured.
Speaker 3:That would be your answer. Yeah, wow.
Speaker 2:Just for yeah, but I'll shoot him, I'll shoot him, I'll shoot him that's so different my shit was just racist. Your shit's violent violent and racist he didn't say racist, he said fascist. He said fascist keywords you'll like this one.
Speaker 3:This comes from my boy. A good boxing content, pg-13. He don't cuss. Why did bud and boots duck? Or why did bud and boots duck, teo?
Speaker 2:so so that ain't even that's actually good, because that piggybacks into the next yeah, that's why I saved it for last.
Speaker 3:I figured you'd like that one, but this dude is out of his mind if he thinks either of those are true.
Speaker 2:Okay, good setup, but you could agree that you could make it.
Speaker 1:I thought this was about to be like a. You can make an argument, but it's a stupid argument.
Speaker 3:Exactly I thought it was going to be like a joke.
Speaker 2:So let me reverse that. Then. Why did Boots not take the TO fight? Forget about Crawford.
Speaker 3:Crawford has Canelo on his mind, that's my point why is Bud ducking TO to fight Canelo? Yeah?
Speaker 2:I get that, but why? No one has a straight answer yet? Because his team is very silent and private, which is good Boots' team. But why?
Speaker 3:did Boots not take the TO fight? Well, it did, kind of come out. They're like it's not a unification fight. So if it's not a unification, because this whole thing has become undisputed.
Speaker 2:You don't got a belt, and I could agree with that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so the whole argument is yeah, but you take that TO fight, Even though it's not undisputed. It's a big money fight, Huge money fight so then pay me the money.
Speaker 2:Don't pay me what you think I would make versus brian norman, but we never got to the money yet. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like we never got to that well, he demanded a certain amount and he's like, if you're not, boots did okay, like that did come out. He wanted five million and he's like, if it's, if I'm not getting five million and I'm not getting a unification, if I, I'm gonna go to $154 million.
Speaker 2:Okay, so does Tio's stock raise.
Speaker 3:But I feel like that was part of Tio's plan, because Tio's not just going to call Boots out to fight Boots at $147 million. I'm sorry, he probably knew he was going up to $154 million. So they probably lowballed him. And you're right. The whole talk is that Boots ducked him.
Speaker 2:He's like fuck it I don't fucking hate either, but like Tio don't even believe Boots ducked him, so like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you know what? Tio is still trying to convince us?
Speaker 2:he said liquor, so it's like I don't know what he thinks, but the one thing about Tio I don't believe what he says, neither I believe what he says and I don't know what he thinks. Did you see what he said? Yo Tio's fucking up the money for himself, but it's kind of like he's in that realm now and I hate to say it like that Kanye realm. Like the stupider and more wild shit. I say works for me, because did you see him come out at Turk recently?
Speaker 1:I want to hear about this one.
Speaker 2:Turk is money bags, he's the money, turk is the money. What did he say? What did he do now TO capitalized Dick and said Tater, he spelled it like Dick, like a Rikishi dick, full circle. This is a full circle podcast. It's called a callback. In stand-up comedy we call that a callback. Yeah well, to called back that dick. He called him a Dick.
Speaker 1:Tater Capital D-I-C-K. Because some of the shit he said he right, yeah, and then he already knew man. Come on now. We seen the body man. Come on now, we seen the Luminati man.
Speaker 3:What did I?
Speaker 1:say what did I say?
Speaker 3:I said I was like look, he thinks he's slick but he's not, because after all that shit went down with Turkey, he came out with these posts where he's homeless and he's holding up a sign of all of his accomplishments. He's in a liquor store. He's like where's that liquor at?
Speaker 1:He did it again. He did it, he did it again but he said liquor this time.
Speaker 3:No, that's what you supposed to do. You supposed to play all this shit bro this is social media.
Speaker 1:What he did this is, but it also the shit wasn't shot with an iphone.
Speaker 3:It was shot with like a professional camera his, our boy, the guy we met oh damn, I just forgot his name.
Speaker 1:Uh, why would you?
Speaker 2:do all of that if you're not promoting something yeah, he's right, because then I told him he's thinking like because to tweeted out he's like y'all.
Speaker 3:Y'all will never see a bad guy like me again and I told him I was like he thinks he's slick, but he's telling us exactly what he's doing. He's playing the bad guy, yeah, trying to do that bad guy, good guy narrative. He already made himself the bad guy for saying what he said the boots fight ain't happening. I was like there's gonna have to be a good guy and he's going back and forth with turkey. What happened the next day?
Speaker 2:devin haney tweeted out turkey, I'll take care of him yeah there's your motherfucking good guy right there, I just saw it like I'm not buying this shit.
Speaker 3:It's cool. I'm glad they're actually putting effort and energy into promoting a fight. This is WWE.
Speaker 2:And that's what Turkey wants. That's what Turkey wants.
Speaker 1:I've been saying this shit, just the fight previews he does.
Speaker 3:It's never like highlights of their fights.
Speaker 2:It's like them being real actors in a fucking movie trailer and you are on to something because they there it came out that a catch weight of 145 was negotiated for for teo versus haney. And why would? Why would a catch weight be negotiated if teo was willing to go to 147 and fight boots?
Speaker 3:why would it be a catch weight if they're both coming up from 140 anyway? What's the plan?
Speaker 2:I kind of like the catchweight thing in TO's favor, because Haney could blow up. Haney could blow up, yeah, but he can blow up and do nothing with it.
Speaker 3:He had all that power.
Speaker 1:He still don't have no power.
Speaker 2:I do, and this is again I'm putting my bias aside. If TO is not Ryan Garcia for one, he's going to hit Haney with some shit. Haney's going to get hit with her.
Speaker 3:He's a boxer, Ryan. He's just not the same power.
Speaker 1:This is all bad for Haney. Haney needed another fight because he was looking crazy. Last fight His head was jerking off a jab. He needed to go back in the lab, he's still got it.
Speaker 2:When you put confidence in TO, he's a problem.
Speaker 3:You know what Devin does have that can give TO problems A jab, he's got a really good jab, he's got really good movement, he's got good cardio.
Speaker 2:He's got good length. If he can still outside, but Tio's cardio is slept on. Tio's cardio is slept on. Oh, I'm not saying he doesn't have good cardio.
Speaker 3:But I'm saying he does great against guys who don't have good cardio.
Speaker 1:True, but what's his name? He needs to cut off the ring better. Who's?
Speaker 2:that fucking guy. He fought that like everyone gave him shit about Because he went the distance, but he threw like 150 punches per round.
Speaker 3:Claggett, oh, claggett, yeah, claggett, claggett can't move, claggett can't move.
Speaker 2:But Tio threw mad punches at that.
Speaker 3:Fight too Dude he did a lot of dumb shit there. Yeah, yeah, there was one part where he clag it hurt and then backed himself up against the road. So I'm like bro, what are you?
Speaker 2:doing, of course, but I'm telling strictly about cardio. Like Tio broke all his records, cardio wise, punch wise in that fight.
Speaker 3:But yeah, but what I'm saying is that Devin can move rounds one through 12.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he could, unless he gets hit with some shit. And hit you with a dab, which is what makes the fight interesting, because I see ways both of them win.
Speaker 3:to be honest with you, I see TO winning and I see Devin winning, which makes it a very compelling fight.
Speaker 2:And TO's going to get in Devin's head in the lead-up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you know what, you know what. You know what Devin stepped on for Devin can, for dev can talk some shit, his dad can. I think devin is a really good shit talker, I don't care what?
Speaker 2:maybe they should let him out of the cage, then I don't think I don't know.
Speaker 3:I see I don't understand that narrative comes from where everybody's like oh, devin, just lets bill talk for him.
Speaker 2:I'm like bro devin talks a lot of shit so we talked about this last episode, though, like then, maybe, maybe it's time for his dad to step aside.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I don't think anybody would say that Bill should shut the fuck up a little bit. But I'm just saying like Devin. It's not like Danny Garcia, angel Garcia, where Danny wouldn't say much and Angel would Like. Devin talks shit, dude, and he's funny Like even in the Ryan Garcia press conference. He's like bro. I don't know if Ryan's going to make it to the fight.
Speaker 2:He's like bro, I don't know if ryan's gonna make it to the fight. No, you're, you're right, but but the attention is stolen. Now it's like it's stolen from his pops and I, and I've been saying that like it's time for when you're that age, it's time for your dad to step aside. But yo, yeah, um, all right, we've. We've said enough we hit, we hit everything we we listed. Uh, damn it everything. Yeah, we're going too deep. We're going Rikishi deep. I'm going to try and cut this, you coming back next week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can come back next week.
Speaker 2:Whenever you want, you're always welcome. You're a new regular to the show. We'll try and press some interviews going forward.
Speaker 3:I'll hop off for your interviews, though, because then, when it's three people and two of them are not looking, it's weird.
Speaker 2:If you want, though, I don't care. This is just a hobby, bro?
Speaker 3:It's not like that. Just based off of experience, the less people for interviews, the better.
Speaker 2:Which is true. What a noble man, you know. God bless, god bless this guy. Are you guys going to watch the fight? What a noble man, god bless. God bless this guy, nice salute.
Speaker 3:Are you guys going to watch the fight together? The Keyshawn fight? Yeah, if Willie's around?
Speaker 1:Is it Friday, saturday? I might? I don't know.
Speaker 3:I was going to say we could do a live watch party if you want.
Speaker 2:The only problem I have with that is and we've talked about that to do it is like the copyrights, copyright.
Speaker 3:yeah, they copyright fucking everything we don't know, but like, do you ever see how like rogan does? It and I know we're not rogan or even brendan shaw, it's we're better than brendan the camera. Yeah, dude, but like all, the, all the videos of them watching the fight, and then they like read. Yeah, do it right if you read.
Speaker 2:Like live comments from people yeah, we could, we could do something like that, maybe, maybe, so I might be, I could get some pros show the fight yeah, yeah and I do have a good setup where I got like three tvs.
Speaker 1:You know, a fight might show in the mirror, in the mirror or something like that's a tv.
Speaker 2:If you could see that that's a tv too, uh, but whatever, we can figure that out. Yeah, I'm down to do that too. It's just we. If it's a big fight, I get rowdy. But I do want to say one thing in closing. I found a spot, a good spot, and I'm willing to put the money up for it, because I don't care, I'm, she's gonna divorce me anyway, just don't ask me about that shit too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was throwing a fight party.
Speaker 2:I'm going to throw a real fight party, a legit one. I found a good spot. It's out here in New York. Will you be willing to come when I'm thinking, and if you give me the word, I'll put the pieces in place. I'm thinking for Canelo vs Crawford. I'm thinking for Canelo versus Crawford.
Speaker 3:See, I have to figure out when that date is.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because in September my best friend from the Navy, the one that coached football at Virginia Tech. He's now like a manager for like a country music singer that was like a finalist on the Voice and shit.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:The same Texas. Oh wow Jesus, he's going to Nashville to eat some ass. Well he lives in. Nashville. Oh, so he's eating ass.
Speaker 3:But in September him and the guy he works for are coming to Idaho for a music festival. He wants me to go to that.
Speaker 2:I ain't seen dudes since 20 years. I'll be there, we'll cross that bridge when it gets there, but I I the spar in might be throwing like a legit, like at a bar and I'll be in school then too, because then fall semester opens up.
Speaker 3:But I should, if, if I can go like if, like all lanes open up, I'll go. For sure that'd be sick yeah.
Speaker 2:So I and I plan on doing that. I'm gonna I'm gonna network a little more and and that goes out to anybody that made it this far too I'm gonna raffle off memorabilia. I have a shitload it's real memorabilia that I don't need um, try to get.
Speaker 3:I'll try to get.
Speaker 2:Thanks for playing and adams to throw some shit in yeah, yeah, that'd be awesome and and we'll cross that bridge when it comes. We have, but it has to be a major fight if I do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you can't do that shit. No.
Speaker 2:It's not to make money either, it's just to have boxing heads around. It's fun, bro, drinking, watching, boxing and fucking. I invite the hood rats, yes yes, I can't go JK.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, all my friends are rats too, that's gonna be very weird we have a lot of rednecks. We have a lot of rednecks. That being said, thank you for listening. If you made it this far, I have a lot to chop up. Punchlines underscore boxing is here with us whenever he feels he wants to be here with us. Willie and Puma here like subscribe. This is the second time we went live. It will get better with time.
Speaker 1:Just give us some time. I appreciate y'all man.
Speaker 2:Whoever's watching man. Yeah, just like our regular podcast man. We're going live every time now, so please just bear with us. We just got another YouTube follower. Maybe we should stay on. We got four people watching now, hey what's up, man? What's up, brother? Alright, they just went on.
Speaker 1:all out of that shit, get the fuck out of here the motherfuckers just left after that shit Punchlines peace.
Speaker 2:Thanks for coming by.
Speaker 1:See you next week.
Speaker 3:Peace Later guys.
Speaker 1:This ain't TC.