THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST
THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST
ALL CURRENT EVENTS BOXING AMONGST OTHER THINGS TO INCLUDE INTERVIEWS, ANALYSIS, PREDICTIONS, OPINIONS, FUN, BANTER AND MORE ! RATED R!
THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST
Two Black Guys and a Puma Walk Into a Boxing Podcast
The gloves come off in this no-holds-barred boxing discussion with special guest Punchlines Boxing, the controversial social media personality who's been blocked by fighters for his unfiltered takes. We dive headfirst into the heated debate surrounding a potential Boots Ennis vs. Teofimo Lopez matchup, cutting through the boxing politics to examine why size matters more than experience in this potential clash.
Despite being a self-proclaimed "Teo sexual," our host acknowledges the harsh reality: Boots' natural size advantage at welterweight creates a fundamental problem that Teofimo's impressive resume can't overcome. We meticulously dissect Tim Bradley's analysis that favors Teo while highlighting Boots' devastating power that made Stanionis quit on his stool—something few experts predicted. The conversation exposes the double standards in how fans evaluate fighters' resumes and performances.
Beyond this matchup, we explore boxing's broader promotional failures compared to UFC, with particular criticism aimed at Turk's approach to growing the sport. The conversation shifts to the challenges of boxing content creation, with Punchlines revealing the hours of work required to produce viral boxing content while battling platform algorithms and shadow banning.
Whether you're Team Boots or Team Teo, this episode delivers the knockout combination of insider knowledge, unfiltered opinions, and genuine passion that makes boxing the sweet science. Subscribe now and join our growing community of boxing enthusiasts who refuse to pull punches when discussing the sport we love.
It's time for the main event. It's the Sparring Podcast.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's working.
Speaker 1:Bear with us what are we live on though?
Speaker 2:I think YouTube. Youtube, okay yeah just YouTube Baby Steps, first time ever live. Oh, it's Willie Puma and a special guest. We're not gonna say his real name, but you know him. You've seen his memes. He's been on the show before Punchlines Boxing what up man?
Speaker 3:What's good you can say my real name. The watermark I put on all my shit has my name in it and people just don't see it. I don't want to throw that out there.
Speaker 2:I don't want to throw that out there. You say it he is the funniest man on social media. He's pissed everybody off, but also made them laugh at the same time.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I've been blocked by fighters, bro. I've been blocked by Brendan Schaub, Antonio Tarver.
Speaker 2:Why'd Schaub block you? He's like a funny guy. Why the fuck did?
Speaker 3:he block you Because I was talking shit about him. Really, yeah, he's a fucking dumbass dude. Snack blocked me, floyd Schofield's dad blocked me.
Speaker 1:Yo.
Speaker 3:You know why he blocked me. I was like, hey, can Floyd ask his dad if he can fight Abdullah Mason? Blocked me and now this motherfucker's off talking about how he wants to fight Abdullah Mason, like no, you don't. You want two and a half million dollars for a fucking prospect versus prospect.
Speaker 2:Fight, you liar that's fucking crazy though, but you do, you do. You are very outspoken, but we love it and, honestly, uh, we were talking about the um, the shirts, thanks for playing. They're kind of who got me in cahoots with you, but I'm not gonna get all mushy again. The reason you're on the show and you actually asked me you boxing's pretty dead right now and you have, uh, a lot on your plate, a lot on your mind, with a special fighter to me, a very special fighter who's been in the news a lot lately.
Speaker 1:You say his name, since we're playing the name game here, since there's two black people on this team.
Speaker 3:Yeah bro, we finally. We're the majority now. It's the great replacement theory, but I don't dislike Tiafimo. That's the thing tiafimo lopez people. That's who he was I'm not going against him because he said liquor or all this shit, it's just we, we heard what he said.
Speaker 2:He did not say liquor.
Speaker 3:He didn't say liquor, bro, but the the whole, the whole prospect of his fight with boots. I don't understand why people think it's a 50-50 fight. I really don't, and it's not me being a boots fan, which I openly am, I'm a huge boots fan. Being a TO hater is just logically I don't think TO is going to win and every argument for TO female winning makes no sense either.
Speaker 2:And as a self-proclaimed to sexual um. I'm on the liquor, though, so that is why, uh, I I agree with you and that's coming for me, but I think what got you going was you said these fans, and you were sending me some zesty photos of the fans oh, yeah, wait what wait, what I missed?
Speaker 1:it.
Speaker 3:What so I posted photos I posted a video yesterday and it was the video of tim bradley saying you know to, has more experience. He's beaten more elite names boots hasn't. Like, because of that experience, like it's going to be a tough fight for boots and like after everything he would say for teo, I posted a clip of him either getting dropped or rocked and I paused it and I would show how many knockouts that and it's like how is he going to beat boots? Like that was the whole point of it and people agreed with me. But a lot of people were coming at me telling me tim's right, tim's right, you're an idiot. So I was just going back and forth with these dudes for the last two days and one of these dudes looked gay as fuck. I told him. I told him he, I was like bro, you got the most popular guy in jail lips again again.
Speaker 2:Uh, if your kids are listening, which they're probably not just- yo, that's funny though like in boxing. There's the saying pull no punches, he pulls yo. I love it. I always read talk shit like. But is that, is that what got you like Yo?
Speaker 1:that's funny as hell. Like in boxing there's a saying pull no punches, he pulls Yo. I love it. I always read talk shit like that, but is that what got you like.
Speaker 2:So you posted that video, which was hysterical with the Tim Bradley thing, and what made like they just started DMing you right.
Speaker 3:All the fans, no they were commenting on it and I was going back and forth with them and they're like boots hasn't beat anybody and I'm like they're like keo's beating loma, he's beating josh taylor and I was like okay, does loma or josh taylor beat boots at 147?
Speaker 2:and like well, using the pound for pound theory, I think I was like you know, this isn't, oh my god, we're not talking about.
Speaker 3:If you were arguing about who deserves to be higher on a pound for pound list or who has a better resume. That's tfimo all day, but we're talking about a real fight at 147. So does loma or josh taylor beat boots at 147 and they're like no, of course not, he's too big.
Speaker 2:I was like that's my fucking point, dude the whole thing I'm making exactly and and when, with what tim bradley said. Actually, willie sent me it and he's like, oh, you got a boner yeah, I was like yeah, you got a hard one and I'm like, I'm listening to him and like everything's making sense, but he's leaving the one x factor out and and size matters in in all parts of life so it's not just size, it's not.
Speaker 3:It's not. It's not like. It's not like when roy jones jr won the heavyweight title against john ruiz, right like teo can't just go in there and be more athletic and more explosive, because boots is just as athletic and explosive yeah.
Speaker 2:So, from from what I heard, actually our friend who uh left hook jamal, a good friend of ours he he actually was was team teo in a sense, where he was like saying, and it made sense, he's like I don't know, like yeah, but Tio's going to hit him, he's going to get hit and he's going to win some rounds, like you know, not like teetering on what but Boots, this is what people don't understand. And again, this is coming from the arguably self-proclaimed biggest Tio fan right, biggest TO fan right. Willie knows, if I showed you around here I'd have like 20 TO pictures. Don't judge me, but Boots is 164, or, I'm sorry, 147, and he's going to come in at like 170, and he stopped Stan Jonas who has TO stopped.
Speaker 3:The last stoppage he had, the last knockdown he had was Pedro Campos, exactly In 2022.
Speaker 2:Exactly and stopping Stan Jonas. Nobody thought, no expert thought.
Speaker 1:No, regular guy thought I definitely didn't.
Speaker 3:I thought he was going to stop him too.
Speaker 1:Did you you?
Speaker 2:thought he was going to stop him. I did, really, I did.
Speaker 3:I'm also really high on boots. I've been saying it since 2021. When he knocked out Lippin Yates, I was like this dude is the future number one pound-for-pound fighter in the world. We're like it's going to be between him and Shakur. That's what I said then.
Speaker 1:We should have known, though, with Stylianos he didn't have a foot in.
Speaker 2:Matt Long, I'm like yo he tried to get in the ring with.
Speaker 1:Boots and you need to take a warm-up fight.
Speaker 3:So that's all right, not to cut you off, Puma.
Speaker 2:No, no, go ahead.
Speaker 3:That's the other arguments that people are throwing at me, Like, oh, Boots went the distance with a guy named Karen. It's like, okay, TO goes the distance with fucking everybody and one of them was Steve Claggett okay, that rhymes with we're not gonna say they start.
Speaker 3:They start poking holes in boots, resume, and then when you do the same thing to teal they're like, oh, you're moving the goalposts, like they'll be like, oh, standy onus hadn't fought in almost a year. It's like, okay, loma hadn't fought in 14 months when he fought him. Yeah, josh taylor hadn't fought in 16 months when he fought him.
Speaker 2:And his fight before that was the one, the win against josh catarall, when most people don't even think he won no, I didn't think he won that fight either, but with the loma thing, that was when loma was in his prime. Like teo fall in his prime, and this is another thing. Being a teo sexual, I'm gonna back my guy still the. The one thing he does have going for him is what I noticed whenever he calls a dude out and we don't have much to go off of, but like Loma, for example, he was calling Loma out right away. Right, I want Loma. We see something, I want Loma. He's been saying the same thing about Boots. Now again, I'm not an idiot, I'm not being biased. It's a tough, tough task. I'm here for it, though.
Speaker 3:And it's a win-win for Tio. Can you agree to that? Yeah, and it's a lose-lose for Boots, because even if Boots knocks him out in the first round, nobody's going to give him credit for that, just like nobody gave Arrow credit for beating Mikey Garcia.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a valid point.
Speaker 1:It's definitely a lose-lose, because if he loses, oh man Tio waiting to beat a black guy. Here's the thing.
Speaker 3:When he calls people out, sometimes there's always an a and. But because we called out tank after tank b rolly and they were interviewing teo backstage, he's like I guess I'm the guy that beat him. Like, oh, will you fight him? He's like, yeah, but tell him to come to espn, which?
Speaker 2:you know is not gonna happen there's. There's something going on too with the uh, with the weight like we talked about last night. Uh, because teo posted something like pretty cryptic. It was like oh, sign the, not sign the contract. I don't know what the fuck it said, it's don't accept the terms, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah because there's definitely terms.
Speaker 1:The word terms kind of put me in my mindset like trying to say teo ducking huh, I don't think he's ducking, you know, and but like remember when he called out after he beat Josh Taylor.
Speaker 3:He called out butt. He's like, I want Terrence Crawford at 145. It's like, why, bro? Like, if you're going to call out boots when he's the champion at a weight class and you think you can beat him, beat him at the weight class. Don't do any of this and butt shit.
Speaker 2:I will say this, though. I will say this, though Based off the last fight at Times Square in New York City TO stole the show. And was what's it called? What's the word I'm looking for? God damn it.
Speaker 3:The only one that performed well.
Speaker 2:No, no, Even before that leading up to it.
Speaker 2:Carrying the promotion, and that is exactly what Turk wanted. I've spoke on it before. Turk wanted all those guys and all those personalities to clash, and the only one that didn't mature was Tio, and so so I I do think that that Turk is going to throw money at him, hoping for that drama, something like that, and especially now with the comments, the word liquor, alcohol that he said. But Turk's going to throw money at him, and now we have some buildup for for a mega fight, in a sense. But there is one fight and and I'm being a what are you? What are you? A conspiracy theorist, I'm being a little conspiracy theorist here I think Tio's setting up for a fight versus Haney.
Speaker 3:I think this is this is all a game. That's a way better fight. That's a way better fight for Tio and it's a way better fight for boxing, because boots versus Tio doesn't really do a whole lot unless.
Speaker 2:Tio wins. No, it's like a cash grab for Tio. It's like everyone chasing Canelo.
Speaker 1:He's been waiting for a cash grab. That's all he's waiting for. That's why he do all this antics. But you can't deny. You can't deny Everyone.
Speaker 2:You can't deny. You can't deny. Like everyone says duck, duck and there's always a butt. But in the ring Tio has it, he doesn't show up. When he doesn't show up, I get that, but when he does show up he's hard to beat and he's kind of I don't want to say high risk, low reward, he's high risk, fuck you're going to have an L on your record to T is he's small as hell in person.
Speaker 1:He is, he is, he is he's small in person.
Speaker 2:Again, I'm not saying he beats Boots, listen, I was there live. I saw that fight in person and I didn't. Stenionis was so high like tough-wise to me, eastern European, just a gritty dude. I did not think Boots was going to stop him and he fucking quit on the stool.
Speaker 1:He quit on the stool, Steamrolled him and was showing off. We're talking about this person that got the same boxing skills as you, but is way bigger than you.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, they like to say his fans like to say oh, but Boots gets hit a lot. It's like so does TO bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he does TO gets rocked.
Speaker 3:You see his nose he got rocked by Barbosa, who has 11 knockouts and 33 fights. He got dropped by Martin.
Speaker 2:He got hit once by Barbosa, though that one clean shot and it buckled his knees, bro. No, it did not buckle his knees.
Speaker 3:I have the video of it. It's in the video Send me.
Speaker 2:It's literally in the video Send me his knees buckling.
Speaker 1:It buckled his knees, bro, he got buckled.
Speaker 2:But you could say he got knocked down by Kambosis I'll give you that one and he got knocked down by Martin too, and Kambosis had 10 knockouts and 22 fights and Martin has 15 knockouts and 42 fights.
Speaker 3:That's all knockout percentages of less than 50% at weight classes 135 and 140.
Speaker 1:My man did his homework coming at the TO section.
Speaker 3:That was what the whole video was about. And they're like oh, but Boots went the distance with. Karen. Boots got hit by Avanagi and he got hit by Karen. It's like, okay, but I'm not saying that those shortcomings and concerns for Boots aren't there. I'm just saying TO is not the guy to take advantage of.
Speaker 2:So, based on what you're saying, though, yes, I agree with you, but you could say the same thing for Boots. Just Boots is bigger, like TO gets hit, as you just said, and Boots gets hit as well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you know what, when they quote-unquote struggle, like Boots did against Karen, I guess even though the first fight, he won all 12 rounds and the second fight. He still dropped him, him. Teal's not dropping anybody, no that's not his natural weight. He's not dropping people at 140. And when?
Speaker 3:you bring that up, it's like, oh, he's not a power puncher, he's a slick, he's a mover, he's a boxer. It's like, okay, is he going to be able to do that for 12 rounds against boots? Cause it's the same reason Tio kind of struggles is, he's overconfident and he's going to go in there and he's just going to, he's going to use his physical attributes to overwhelm you. That's what he did against Avanazian. That's why he was getting hit a little bit against Avanazian.
Speaker 2:That's what he tried to do against Karen and it just didn't go perfectly to plan but also also I think a lot of it with boots is kind of like Tio, just boots is a little better in my opinion. He doesn't show up for the competition, like if you look at the Stagnonis fight, arguably his best opponent yeah, that's the best opponent he's ever faced he showed up, he didn't take any time, he wasn't fooling around. He was fooling around when he had him, but like he took him seriously, he wasn't playing you know what I mean?
Speaker 3:He threw like eight straight uppercuts to finish that fight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and and with these eastern european dudes, the other dudes he's fighting that aren't necessarily are all high risk, low reward. I don't think he was really. He just went in there a little too confident and and he, he did get hit it is boxing to relies on a and that's counterpunching, just to get knocked down that would be like but against counterpunch, counterpunch too. They're really alike, just one's way bigger and switches. Tio doesn't really switch.
Speaker 3:Boots' whole thing too. Like if he wants to box on the outside he can. Like he did it against Roy Monvia for like the first half of that fight and then, once he got Roy Mon to stop throwing and just stand there, that's when he started going mid-range and even close Boots is really.
Speaker 2:He's got every tool in the book and he has a good chin. To's not knocking him out Versus.
Speaker 1:TO. He's not fighting on the outside, though. Yeah, he's going to try and bully TO, he's going to show his dominance.
Speaker 3:I think he can keep him at the end of his jab for a bit and then like TO's small argument and all this energy we're putting into it.
Speaker 2:I swear already today something came out. It's not going to happen, yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's going to happen, but I.
Speaker 3:The only reason I hope it does is so I can clap back at all these people and tell them to shut the fuck up, because Boots is having trouble making 147.
Speaker 2:He's growing, he's going to be at 154. And now there's some real fights for Boots at 154. And now there's some real fights for boots at 154, like like virgil ortiz jr, yeah, that's a massive massive.
Speaker 3:That's a great fight, yeah that's yeah that's the future big fight and see that would be a hard fight for me yeah, I know, I know that's your boy I love boots and I love virgil yeah, I like virgil too.
Speaker 2:We actually we met him um at the the time square fight. You know he's cool as shit. Just I didn't know he had hand surgery. Was that you that really dapped up? He's like ah, don't touch my hand.
Speaker 1:That wasn't me.
Speaker 2:That was somebody else.
Speaker 1:I noticed that he was just using his left hand.
Speaker 2:I didn't even notice that.
Speaker 1:People have respect. They don't really use their left hand to dap people up. He was using his left hand like this. I'm like, yeah, his hands fucked up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can never root against Virgil bro, especially when Sandy Ryan followed me and I posted that video of her following me and he commented on it. He's like hey, bro, thanks for letting me borrow your Lambo. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. That's my boy, bro. I can never really get this guy. He's funny too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:When somebody tweeted out it's like yo, is Virgil going to win this weekend when he was fighting Mautermar and he quote, tweeted it and he posted that I think it's Kodak Black and he's like I hope so, yeah.
Speaker 1:He is funny. I hope so.
Speaker 2:He was a little overwhelmed, I think, in New York, though In New York, yeah, he was chilling you didn't see no personality. He was probably just tired bro.
Speaker 1:Probably, and his fucking hand was broken or something.
Speaker 3:He had hand problems. I like Virgil, I don't like that people say he ducked Zayas Bro, he is not ducking Zayas.
Speaker 1:Who's ducking him?
Speaker 2:That's my point, bro.
Speaker 3:You want to talk about somebody being overrated, with no wins on their resume.
Speaker 1:It's Xander Zayas. I can't.
Speaker 2:I can't speak bad about Xander Zayas anymore, because his family, his family wants my head on a spike.
Speaker 1:He's overrated. He's like I don't care, he's overrated, he is. I'm sorry it.
Speaker 3:He's like, I don't care, he's overrated, he is. I'm sorry, but his best win is fucking old Patrick Teixeira dude.
Speaker 1:And we keep on banning him for knockouts. That's why.
Speaker 2:He's a slick boxer. He's very slick and has boxing IQ and getting better and growing.
Speaker 3:He's big as shit.
Speaker 2:He's talented, but he's not top five in that weight class top rank wanted a puerto rican and they saw the money he generates in new york they. They found that, yeah, he got the best gig, but yo shout out to his family too, because because they don't beat me up at the fights, so I gotta get it no, like I, he seems like a very nice guy, but like this isn't what the conversation's about.
Speaker 2:You, you know what I'm saying yeah, yeah, no, you're right, bro, I went to there's only a few fighters that I dislike, and I always root against them because I dislike them.
Speaker 3:Name them, name, them name them, keith Thurman, for sure Come on, man.
Speaker 1:I can't stand Keith either. I ain't going to lie Me either. I'm not to keep there my friend.
Speaker 3:He's a fucking cornball bro.
Speaker 2:But he knows he's a cornball now.
Speaker 1:He got His fucking quotes. Catch me off, guard you remember when he's playing the flute. What you gonna do, Dumbass? Bro what the fuck are we in 1950? Motherfucker sounds like.
Speaker 3:Daffy Duck. The other one's, edgar berlanga, bro like.
Speaker 1:But I don't think anybody likes edgar berlanga? So so.
Speaker 2:So, so I I have I met edgar twice and I'm having a change of heart, man. And then, and then here's my main reason. Why, though, during covid right, I spoke about this and I probably told you, if I did just just tell me to shut the hell up. But during COVID, I remember laying in bed and Edgar was doing like some illegal gambling thing like roulette on Instagram, and you could bet and they'd Venmo, you money him and some like hood rats, and you told him that too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was like oh where are you doing that?
Speaker 2:I was like, yeah, I was going to lie like yo. You never sent me the money, though, and edgar is another one like the thing, so let's talk about that. You know, boxing's kind of on a on a dull note. And again, uh, for our radio listeners, we are live right now on youtube first time ever.
Speaker 1:This is going to be a link. The post is on my, yeah I sent it to you.
Speaker 2:I tagged you.
Speaker 1:You were late, willy oh shit um the link already in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this, this episode might go really long.
Speaker 1:We are here with punchlines underscore boxing, so me and punchlines we're kind of we have like a little bit of a bromance.
Speaker 2:Can we call it that like an?
Speaker 3:internet bromance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I don't care he always hits me up late at night because the time difference and I'm wasted after fights. I'm sitting here like, oh hey, what's up? Man? Um yeah, where were we? Berlanga, berlanga, shiraz, what do you think?
Speaker 3:punchlines about who's going to win.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh man, I was having this conversation the other day. Berlanga's got the power, bro. I'm not going to take anything away from his power. The dude hits like a fucking truck.
Speaker 2:Yo, english fighters are over-fucking-rated. And I'm not saying Berlanga's like this boxing savant, I'll tell you one thing he's going to need to get a knockout because he's going to get cheated, the only thing going for him.
Speaker 1:Don't go the distance with that man. That's Turk man. That's Turk man right there.
Speaker 2:If you don't think New York's legal system is corrupt, the New York State Athletic Commission it's in Queens is going to be the ones reffing the fight and everything.
Speaker 1:You know, turk and Saudi are reffing the fight and everything yeah, you know, turk and saudi are funneling them money.
Speaker 2:So yeah, you bet, berlanga is gonna need a ko tko, a knockdown. I'm betting the draw because, because I could see him like just landing some heavy shots, like I like this.
Speaker 3:My boy, ingles jingles, brought this up to me. He's a fighter out of vegas and he was like you think turkey's just trying to like you think he's getting him that berlanga fight so he can be in line for a canelo fight after that? And I was like I don't, I don't know about that because I don't know if canelo would fight him. He might, that's if canelo beats bud, but, like he probably knows, canelo's retiring soon yeah, so he just wants him to get a belt once canelo leaves or vacates or something.
Speaker 3:But the Berlanga fight ain't going to be easy. Shiraz does have a great jab. You saw it in the ammo fight, you saw it in the first half of the Adamas fight. But those guys were small compared to him. Berlanga's not going to be small compared to him.
Speaker 2:Adamas, I think beats Berlanga. I think, Adamas beats Berlanga.
Speaker 1:I thought he won against Shiraz. He's won that fight.
Speaker 3:That shit pissed me off, bro. The whole thing with Turkey is he's here to make boxing better. He's here to give us the best fight. He's here to get rid of all this corruption. As soon as a Muslim dude fights, he's there cheering on the crowd Cheering on the crowd.
Speaker 2:So I'm as like a fanboy and Willie and I try to go to every New York fight. My checking account went negative this week because of that, so we try to go to every fucking New York fight. I'm curious to see what he's doing with the fans. He's already fucking up. Turk's already fucking this up?
Speaker 1:What about this fight? What are you saying about this one? This is like we can get tickets to this shit, so they didn't know where it was at first.
Speaker 2:Now it's going to be at the tennis stadium in Queens, which is cool, but there's no ticket sales yet. This is where the one thing I'm learning about this podcast thing is like the internet world just loves to just come at you.
Speaker 2:So people were coming at me because I posted something uh about like oh, I hope it's, I hope the fans could go welcome to boxing yeah, yeah, like you would know better than I would, but I'm new to this, so so I had these people coming at me like yeah, oh, of course it's at a tennis stadium, dude, of course, of course the fans are gonna go. I go, you sure about that, because, uh, midtown manhattan was, was a public area and the fans couldn't go. What are you talking?
Speaker 1:about. You could have been seen from a hotel that you've seen.
Speaker 2:Usually in time at this point. They have the pre-sale for tickets and they didn't. So what is Turk doing?
Speaker 1:When is this fight?
Speaker 2:It is in July.
Speaker 1:Where's the sales?
Speaker 3:at Usually the pre-sales are ready A lot of fans are pissed off too, that Shakur Zepeda's the co main.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was weird.
Speaker 3:It's weird, but I also think it's fucking stupid. Who cares?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's two great fights, Two great fights.
Speaker 3:Does it matter? Does your viewing experience change based on Shakur and Zepeda fight?
Speaker 1:No, For real, shakur is the issue. He's the one that makes this an issue. He thinks he's bigger than everything, but he doesn't understand that the fans don't think he's bigger than everybody.
Speaker 2:So he's like in the boxing diehards right, style-wise, defense-wise, jab wise, jab wise.
Speaker 1:He is a boxing savant he should be, I should be. Yeah, yeah, he's a boxer. He's a boxer, I'm a big. Yeah, he should be, but the fans don't think that. Like he don't get it he don't get it.
Speaker 2:You know what his problem is, though, like because because, like you could compare him and Gervonta, right, same type of fan base. Whatever they have the culture, they're kind of like rock stars in their own mind. You know what I mean. They're always around celebrities.
Speaker 3:But the difference is it's the new Errol Budd for real.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, that's a good point. But Tank knocks dudes out and Shakur doesn't out and Shakur doesn't, and that's the problem. And people will be like, oh, but Mayweather never knocked anyone out. Yeah, but Mayweather's style was just so different that he still put more offensive output out there. So that's like the issue, I think, with Shakur.
Speaker 3:There's never been anyone better at selling a fight either than Floyd. Oh yeah, that too, that's another thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a valid point where shakur can't sell.
Speaker 1:You know, that's one thing your boy is not good at is selling a fight man his trash talk need to step it up a little bit because he him and william is just facing off and just looking kind of awkward. I'm like what's going?
Speaker 3:on like, but also too like, outside of boxing fans. Who the fuck knows who williams yeah, no, you're right, you're right and that's a hundred punches around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is gonna be outside of boxing. I can't wait to see it so.
Speaker 2:So that's what. That's where turks fucking up again. We'll go back to that, because he should be promoting that like. If you want to make the sport better I say this all the time you need you need to bring new fans in the UFC guys and the people that come over to watch the fights. They need to know who the fuck Zepeda is, and that's the promoter's job. This is a great fight because Shakur's never fought someone like this and you know, no matter what he's coming, whether it's good or bad.
Speaker 1:The UFC got more knockouts, though.
Speaker 2:They're dying down too, though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, knockouts though they be, they're dying down too. Though, yeah, yeah, even their fans, even their fans are complaining about the mid cards that they're getting right now, because I, I follow some mma pages, because I, I collab with them sometimes yeah and, like their fans, are like dude these cards right now fucking suck rumorville has it too.
Speaker 2:Rumorville has it. Uh, if you saw the, the boxing news um, dana white is not, is actually not going to be the promoter for Canelo.
Speaker 3:It's.
Speaker 2:Sella or something. Yeah, sella, whatever, I don't know what that is what are we doing.
Speaker 1:I'm tired of the fate of fury. I'm tired of all that shit. Who the fuck plays that game?
Speaker 2:UFC.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't even know it was a game? I thought it was just another gay-ass nickname for one of the fight cards.
Speaker 1:It looks like they got belt yeah.
Speaker 2:It looks like a shitty street fighter.
Speaker 1:Who the hell? Whoever played it?
Speaker 2:they met. They made it seem like they was like you know what it is dude, it's Turk has, and again he's put for the fight fans. He did put great fights together like but he's just the midlife crisis and when you have all that money, how do you relive the 80s, you? You put all these things together with the 80s, bro high key. I think he's autistic I'm not even kidding, probably, probably, probably.
Speaker 3:You know that and that's coming from, that's coming from my fucking head cut off. Yeah, yeah, hopefully it's on your instagram, though, bro, I wish I was wearing the shirt I was wearing before I put this on on my jfk apoc is a foreign agent shirt, because I'd be like no dude, I'm on, I'm on your side, I'm on your side, no, no but we're okay, we're all.
Speaker 2:All three of us are a little bit autistic, so it's okay, we could. We know our own. Yeah, that's all. We run boxing accounts. Of course we are. We're idiots, we're straight up idiots. I'm dead. But yeah, I mean, it's just, I want to see. So when there's a good fight, that I know is a good fight and you know I try to throw fight parties and I got to go beg my UFC friends or my cousins that love UFC and I'm like no, no, this is going to be a good fight, come, come, and they're like their first response is I didn't even hear about it, it's not going to be a good fight. And like that's how you tap into that other market. Well, they don't do promotion outside.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all their promotion is within the box.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 3:And I've been saying this years, and they finally did it the day of the fight in time square and they got pat mcafee involved. Yeah, that's smart. Put these dude, get two fighters fighting each other on that mcafee's show first of all. He would love that, of course, bring a lot of outside guys into it and this might make people uncomfortable and I I don't care, but it's just a fact that boxing needs more white american fans because it's a big fan base. It's it's a loyal fan base, which is why the ufc numbers are always big. They don't care about wins and losses or much.
Speaker 2:That much is proven with the ufc and they they buy pay-per-views and they continue to buy pay-per-views and that's a good point, because if you look at like a, you can compare it to like a rap cd, right, and and I think 50 cents said this a while back something like this. He was like yeah, like cool, the hood loves me, or whatever, right, but I, I need the white people to buy my cds. That's why and that's what elevated him is and that's what does sales, and it makes sense it. You're right, though. You're right, ufc does have a predominantly bigger white fan base, but yo, you know what Turk's not going to do that they're with the zone, they're losing ESPN.
Speaker 1:Why do you think Mike Tyson is so big?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I feel like it's such a common misconception amongst boxing fans that white Americans only want to root for white fighters and I just don't think that's true.
Speaker 2:They love white.
Speaker 3:They secretly want to be black Shit, I do.
Speaker 2:Dude.
Speaker 3:I wish I could say liquor so bad.
Speaker 2:Willie can't hide. He's got no laptop. Willie's raw dogging it, by the way, for our listeners on the radio Yo.
Speaker 1:Yo, that's my guy.
Speaker 2:Yo, I keep looking, I keep looking. I'm like, oh, we got one viewer, it's me. I'm on my laptop. I'm like, ah, damn, fucking gay dude, it's all right, we'll get better. I'm going to start pushing the YouTube shit, though this is kind of cool. I'll send you a picture we look official.
Speaker 1:You just got to keep on going bro.
Speaker 2:Just like Instagram, yo. So you know and this is for our listeners too all you people trying to do social media stuff, first of all, I want you to tell them how expensive it is if you really want good shit, and then how time-consuming, like how much of your day is put into like editing videos or these memes oh my god, the memes I'm quick with because I've just figured it out, but when?
Speaker 2:I did the podcast bro dude, you know, like when we get done here, I'm sitting up here. I fell asleep down here, like I'm like oh my god, and my edits aren't even good, but I'm like trying, so I'm like what? Yeah?
Speaker 3:so the I would, because I did mine over zoom. So first it was waiting for the fighter to show up yeah, on time, which rarely they do and then doing the interview and then I would have always late wait what, bro?
Speaker 3:I told you, I had practice, bro, you've been downloading the video from Zoom, getting the video, editing it, cutting out the buffer in the beginning and the buffer at the end, doing the overlay, like putting their name on there, their Instagram handles, like if I had ads on the screen, I'd have to put that in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I could do that, but it's so time consuming, bro, I don't, I'm just like you can get quick with it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what you got to do is you got to make it one graphic and then just upload it over the video so it uploads as one graphic rather than like 15. Yeah, and it goes way quicker, and I can teach you how to do that. It's actually pretty easy so I use.
Speaker 2:I've went through programs i'm'm spending so much money but shout out to StreamYard, that's what I'm using right now Cause, like you said, zoom right, I did Troy Isley, which was a great interview we had with him. We actually I became a big fan of his. He was funny, he was cool as shit. Once you break through his shell he's like a good dude and he, he, he was really. He wanted good quality and I get that. That's what a lot of guys want. They want good quality. So he did Zoom. It was my first Zoom interview, bro. The quality was the worst quality I've ever had. Editing was ridiculous. I paid for some subscription.
Speaker 3:I don't even know. Yeah, you're probably spending too. I'm going to be honest with you. You're probably spending too much money because you don't have to spend that much money have to spend that much money.
Speaker 2:I found a home with stream yard, though, I think, because lately stream yard this, what we're using right now has just been easier for you guys, like when we have a guest, and the quality is way better. So, yeah, shout out to them like I use?
Speaker 3:I use bazaar to make my pictures and then I use in shot when I do my videos. But what? The one thing that I love doing was when I get a big interview, like when I got the the Mario Barrios interview back in 2022.
Speaker 2:Oh, and after you say this, we're going to speak on that.
Speaker 3:Okay, like I wanted. I was like, damn, I got an interview with Mario. Mario has good footage on YouTube because he fought Tank. He has all access Tank fights Roley this week. I was like I bet you I could get him to say some good things about his fight with Tank. He has all access Tank fights Roley this week. I was like I bet you I could get him to say some good things about his fight with Tank and I can make a video about it and get people to see boxing the way I see it, because it's like you guys know, you love boxing, I love boxing. Watching boxing to me is like Marvel nerds when a big movie comes out.
Speaker 3:You're fucking excited for it. Dude, Like it sends chills through your body.
Speaker 2:So one thing real quick to interrupt you. One thing that keeps me going with this podcast is that Willie right here, am I right? Has said to me he's like bro, you're making boxing interesting, like you're, you're getting me interested in these fights. I never would have even been interested and like to me that was like wow, this is worth it, because now he comes over and now we're like motherfucker.
Speaker 1:We'd be going, you know, We'd be all like nobody even watching these guys, we'd be like yo.
Speaker 2:this got me watching.
Speaker 1:Wednesday night fights and shit.
Speaker 2:Like what the fuck? The other night your guy Fox, that fight, right, that was gambling-wise. In the middle of the fight you were like, oh shit, wait a minute.
Speaker 1:You start looking for the uppercommers. You start looking for real talent. You'd be like yo, I'm watching this guy.
Speaker 2:Finish what you were saying.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, for sure, bro, especially when you can get a good like when Troy Isley, the guy you just talked about, when he fought javi martinez, yeah, you're like, oh shit, this is two good prospects.
Speaker 2:they find each other in the amateurs bro like this is now a sick fight jahai tucker versus truck simpson, lorenzo simpson. The main market, the main market doesn't know that. But that's a crazy good fight and that, honestly, we're not. We're going there, we're not going to jersey to see my paisan italiano. No, I'm team jihad.
Speaker 1:But you know truck is on um he be with tanking him. I'm like yeah that's how I knew him that's how I know I'm like you know, that's how I knew who he was, and I'm like he fell off, though, bro.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he definitely fell off.
Speaker 1:He. He fought somebody and it wasn't.
Speaker 3:It wasn't good I heard he fought vladimir hernandez and lost bro yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't good. Troy Isley beat the shit out of Vladimir.
Speaker 2:And let me tell you guys something. So in my boxing maybe my boxing I have to look it up I forget. No, troy is undefeated.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but now that I'm thinking about it, I don't think he beat the shit out of Vladimir. I actually think his fight with Vladimir was kind of tough.
Speaker 2:That's another thing. We're naming names that the regular market wouldn't have any idea, like pro athletes. Think of that. You think of baseball. Right, you say a name, you know that, oh, that guy's a pro athlete. I heard that somewhere. Boxing's the only sport where you say these names and the regular world doesn't know. But boxing fans are like, yeah, I heard that name somewhere they only know the top few. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3:And even then they might not.
Speaker 2:And I thought originally and this is props to Turk in a sense I thought he was coming in to do that. I thought he was going to push this like yo, let's dump some money into it, let's make it like fucking.
Speaker 1:I think he's going to have the opportunity when he's whatever that Grand Prix shit he was supposed to be doing. Yeah, that was great he didn't do it yet, right?
Speaker 2:No, no, that started, I think, the tournament, the tournament, shit.
Speaker 1:It started already.
Speaker 2:I think that started.
Speaker 1:I thought that was his introduction like new fighters and shit like that.
Speaker 2:Nah, his was like the TKO shit. He wanted the TKO shit, that was his thing.
Speaker 3:If he can do a Super 6.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those are cool.
Speaker 3:Do it with 154.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's a great weight class, he has the money. Dude, he has the money. This is the thing I heard. I spoke to a few ticket brokers and lower level promoters and they all said he's not willing to work with them. That's who, like they, have the heartbeat of. You know what I mean? Like the small towns, the guys hustling those tickets. He, he doesn't want to work with them.
Speaker 1:So, okay, you're not going to extend the sport then he's just trying to control everything you got to start bringing.
Speaker 3:He's trying to control things like in boxing he's he's getting people on fucking like the ring and shit and it's bro. Nobody outside of boxing is going to pay attention to it. Get these guys on Shane Gillis' podcast, Get them on that negative, get them on. Rogan bro, Get them on these things.
Speaker 2:They're taking 10 steps back because now they're going to sign with DAZN, and I've said this a million times. It actually breaks my heart in a sense. So I'm going to tell you a quick story. One night sense like so.
Speaker 3:So I'm gonna tell you a quick story.
Speaker 2:One night I was out at the bar out here when joe smith jr was like thriving and, um, who's the guy that broke his jaw? What the fuck is his name? Barrera, yeah, barrera. So barrera is fighting on tv. Right, I'm at arugas and patch hog. Right I'm out and I look over. I'm like I was at my crazy ex, but she was cool because she ate ass. But I'm looking at and I'm like damn, holy shit. I'm like that's joe smith jr and barrera is fucking fighting. So I'm the only one in there going wild and he's like a local. He's a local popular guy. But I'm like yo, I go up to him, I google his tattoo and I'm like are you joe smith jr? He's like, yeah, that's me bro. He was with his girl. We sat at the bar and we're just talking boxing about, about that and like that's what he needs to do, though he needs to get into that, that local market, and he won't because he's with the zone. When have you ever seen the zone on at a bar?
Speaker 3:no, never never, it's an app.
Speaker 1:It's a fucking app and you won't, and you won't, you will ever see the zone but that's all the sports issue. Now everything is going to apps. They got n got NBA games this football game is going to be, one on Amazon Prime, one on fucking Peacock. Who the fuck? Is going on. Peacock, who got Peacock? You got Peacock.
Speaker 3:I do because I have Peacock, just because it has King of Queens. I'm not even kidding, I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 2:You know he's from Long Island, that guy Kevin James.
Speaker 3:I heard he's, you know. You know he's from long island, that guy, kevin james yeah, I heard. I heard his asshole too. In person he might be. He's a fucking celebrity. They're all kind of dickheads, bro. Dickheads are pedophiles or both yeah, shit, yeah, whatever the king of queens is my favorite show of all time.
Speaker 2:Dude, I'm not even really that's a good like, like I've seen every episode, like, if you want to get into autism, i'll'll watch that show. I'll be saying the lines before they say it. We don't want to get into that. I do like that. He's a UPS worker, though, but this is a boxing podcast, so we're going to stick to boxing Again. For those listening on the radio.
Speaker 1:This is part of the regular show. That's how we do it.
Speaker 2:We just be going off regular show.
Speaker 1:That's how we do it. We just be going off Different shit.
Speaker 2:That's what it does, though, but what were we talking about?
Speaker 3:Who did I say we were going to get into?
Speaker 2:There's a lot. Oh, probably Mario. Yeah, oh, you never let me finish, sorry, sorry, go ahead, go ahead Autism, autism.
Speaker 3:So what I wanted to do is I wanted to make like a movie trailer type video. So I got sound bites from him. I found this music that was like Aztec war drum music, because that's what he walks out to. And it was him like talking about the tank fight when tank dropped him and he's like one minute he's in front of me, the next minute he's not, and like I made the screen go black and then he comes back. He's like the crowd's's in front of me, the next minute he's not, and I made the screen go black and then it comes back. He's like the crowd's going wild and I cut from the video to the actual broadcast and it's Mauro Ranallo yelling like and take Davis Flores Barrios. And then it cuts back to the video and it's just a sick video. And that video took me five hours to make and it's only two and a half minutes long. And then I did it again when I interviewed tony harrison. Yeah, and he was calling for the trilogy against, uh, charlo.
Speaker 2:So I made a sick ass video for that and he actually posted it and it got a lot of views seven hours to me, from your phone too. You did it all from your phone, right?
Speaker 3:yeah, I did it all from my phone crazy but they're fucking I, I love me. I got to make one for andre durell. I got to make one for Chon Zapata. It was my favorite thing to do, but it took fucking time.
Speaker 1:You have to love that bitch bro I tried it a million times, bro, even making skits, bro them shit's tasty.
Speaker 3:I don't have a job, bro. I get money off of my GI bill to go to school. I'm the social media director for Adams Boxing Shoes and I recruit fighters for them, and I recruit fighters for Thanks for Playing. I can literally do that right now as I'm doing this podcast. I don't have to show up to anywhere.
Speaker 2:That's awesome, though, bro, I have a job right, you live a good life. I have a job and I get paid decent for what I do, but, like I would, the grass is always greener bro because I would just love to have this basement and that's it, and just just do that man, like I was like like, so the grass is always greener.
Speaker 1:I'm tired of waking up at 1 30 am.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, it really is I was working at lowe's for like over a year and my shift was from 5 am to 2 pm every day. Oh man and I going to school and I was doing the podcast Never slept, never sleep, never sleep.
Speaker 2:But Willie goes. What time do you go in? 1 am 1.30 am 1.30 am and he does this, so I kind of.
Speaker 1:Your shift is in like three hours.
Speaker 3:Yo, I'll, and not be doing all that he's got a kid, he's a great father.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 1:For real bro.
Speaker 3:For real.
Speaker 2:But Willie. So Willie was into boxing. I met him at the gym but he wasn't like a nerd, like me, I'm not a boxing nerd at all. But I met him whenever we're at the gym. He's like yo, you should start a podcast. All you do is talk boxing.
Speaker 1:I like, yeah, you're right. Every time he came in the gym was just talking, talking, just talk, especially about teo, oh my god.
Speaker 2:Every time, oh my god all the time we just hitting the bag teo this I'm like yo and then yo. This was like a predominantly black gym, so they'd be looking at me like what?
Speaker 1:the fuck that shit used to be fun. You used to open up the gym and just parlay everybody I'm at at the gym. I just opened it up.
Speaker 3:I'm the same way I work out at Crunch here in Boise. I live in Boise, idaho, widest city in America, and I, fucking, I go to the gym, I go to Crunch because it's $15 a month.
Speaker 2:Crunch is a good gym.
Speaker 3:And they have punching bags and I want the punching bag and people watch me hit the bag they're like damn bro do you fight? And I'm like, no, I haven't fought since 2016. But yeah, they start talking to me about boxing and they're like oh, like, like, I just don't know any boxers and I'll, I'll always be like dude, you got to watch this guy and it's always boots. Yeah, that's true. The first, the first highlight I always show him is the fucking slow-mo shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, roy monvea like who the fuck does that shit, bro.
Speaker 3:It's the sickest shit ever.
Speaker 2:So you should show them the highlight, though, of Tio, with the behind the back punch in the ring.
Speaker 3:Oh against what?
Speaker 2:the hell's his name, magdaleno.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, Beat the fuck out of him Nah yeah.
Speaker 3:Or even the one, what about the one? Where he jumps up and like, oh yeah, even the one. What about the one?
Speaker 2:where he jumps up, oh yeah, even the slow motion. His last knockout With the fucking Superman punch I don't even know, I don't even think he meant to do that when he like blocked it with a punch when he like punched it, oh against Tampa.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he like punched it out of the way. I like how he'd be bringing back the old school shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the old school guard, oh, the cross guard yeah.
Speaker 2:So back to what we started with right, if he has a shot, if TO has any shot and this is in my opinion and I'm not giving him a shot but if he has any shot, he needs to bring in another trainer, a head, like a legit trainer, not just his pops, and he needs to do a full camp, like just like he did for Loma, like a real camp.
Speaker 3:I don't think he will though.
Speaker 2:Nah, I think he's too, and this is another thing with boxing.
Speaker 1:he's too rich, he's too rich, he thinks he's too famous.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I love the social media shit that he's doing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was smart, though, my son.
Speaker 1:Roley was on a stream with Aiden Ross. Roley's on a stream Roley is wild.
Speaker 2:Roley actually, so Roley's another one. I called that last fight I did.
Speaker 2:I was like if anyone's gonna make the upset, it's gonna be Roley, and Roley in person Is exactly what you see, though, like he's not faking, he's not, he is who he is, and I love that about him, because when we met him I think I told you this when I was in my drunk stupor, but I was like, I said something about feet, because I know he has a foot fetish and Rolly goes, and Roley goes what In front of everybody, bro. He's like what Y'all don't suck toes. It was mad funny.
Speaker 3:I like Roley because he's from Vegas, bro. Yeah, that too. We don't have a lot of fighters from Vegas. Most fighters move there, but Roley's actually. Roley grew up a few neighborhoods away from where I lived in Vegas, so I fuck with Roley.
Speaker 2:So who is your favorite fighter man? So I fuck with Rowling. So who is your favorite fighter? Boots.
Speaker 3:Man like if I had to pick.
Speaker 2:Like number one.
Speaker 3:Of all time, or like right now. Right now active man see, I love caleb plant, I love boots we can talk about that too. I love shakur. Yeah, we could talk about that, because I'm gonna piss pbc fans off too, even though caleb's my boy.
Speaker 2:Hold on, we'll stay on track. So who's your favorite? Who is your?
Speaker 1:beard out. You look, probably look like him, actually I know my hair is thinning like him.
Speaker 3:I love Taylor Plant. I love Boots. I love Shakur Mario Barrios, obviously just because of how fucking cool he was to me and I love watching him fight. He's never in a boring fight, fuck man, I don't know. You know what's easier for me to tell you and I actually get just a slight digression. I'll tell you my top five favorite fighters of all time, because I get laughed at for it. Number one is Andre Ward. Number two because everybody has a favorite fighter that's not from their era, a guy who didn't fight during your lifetime. Mine is Sugar Ray Leonard. Eris Landy Laura oh God, everything was good. I love, I fucking love eris landy laura. Bro, he can box. Can I ask why I just do this? I?
Speaker 2:love boxers I like. So do you love loma chaco, though I?
Speaker 3:do? I do like I do love loma chaco, but I wouldn't say he's one of my favorites of all time. I love slick boxers. I love people with great defense, great footwork, great jab, great straights, and he had all of that. I love Kell Brook. Kell Brook is in my top five of all time, even though he's not a mover like that. I just love Kell Brook and number five is probably Caleb Plant.
Speaker 2:Why Caleb, other than because he's white?
Speaker 3:It's not just because he's white I'm joking, I'm not going to lie to you. That's a part of it. It's because he's a white boxer.
Speaker 2:He's definitely a boxer. Caleb's black. Caleb Plant is black he was beating up black people in the hood.
Speaker 3:You know what I compare it to, though. You know how black football fans love black quarter. You know what I compare it to, though, like you guys, uh, like you know how, like um, like black football fans like love black quarterbacks when they're like legit quarterbacks. Yeah, back in the day used to be like, oh, they're not smart enough to play quarterback. That's what a lot of people would say, like oh, or they're just runners, they're not real quarterbacks. And then now you have guys like lamar, who is a runner but a great quarterback. Cj stroud even though I fucking hate the Texans and I hope their plane crashes, but he's a great passing quarterback. Like black football fans love to see that because it's finally like, yeah, we have real quarterbacks, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they taking over.
Speaker 3:They taking over. Yeah, most of the top quarterbacks in the NFL are black right now, and that's not, you know, like, yeah, you have Burrow, but like Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, CJ Lamar, they're all black.
Speaker 2:Who's blacker, Caleb or Mahomes?
Speaker 3:Caleb. Bro, who's got the black wife? Patrick Mahomes, caleb.
Speaker 1:That's true. Yeah, yeah, nah, I'm just fucking for sure.
Speaker 3:That's how I feel about Caleb, though, because he's a legit boxer, yeah he's slick. When you have a white American boxer, what's the first thing people always say about him? Like, oh, he's tough. Like bro, you're just saying he's good at getting his ass beat.
Speaker 2:One thing I like about Caleb that really draw me on to him was that he's a man of his word. Like when he slapped charlo, he said he was talking about my fucking family. So I pressed him like, like he's all, always a man of his word. He's a family first and he is from like he was from, like a trailer park you see that in the hood like so he was in eight miles and I love, I love shit like that, like like me, eight miles like our friend, like the heavyweight Lorenzo Medina, he's from that Florida.
Speaker 2:Rough fucking different life, different life but about it. I like when they're about it.
Speaker 3:I like that we have. Algieri was a good boxer for white guys, but he wasn't a great fighter. Caleb's a legit, really good fighter and he'll fight anybody.
Speaker 2:His resume shows that so actually our friend his resume is our friend, uh when, when he fought um durell or whatever and he's like I'll never let a white guy knock me out or whatever. And then he said, like I never said that a guy we interviewed, local guy david sparks, hood dude, he's pretty popular on social media too, pro fighter he sparred with. I've interviewed him a few times, you've probably seen my stuff. But he said he goes, he's the one that Darrell was like yo, I'll give anyone five or 10 grand. Whatever it was drill, I'll give anyone five or 10 grand if they say who, if they prove. I said that I never said that he posted it. It's a black dude, david Sparks. He never paid him, man, andre never paid his ass.
Speaker 3:No, he legit said it too.
Speaker 2:I remember it too.
Speaker 3:It didn't even piss me off.
Speaker 2:That shit just pissed me off.
Speaker 1:No, not at all Devin said some shit like that too, right yeah he said some shit like that too.
Speaker 2:Let's talk as we get into. What are we on like an hour now. Whatever, let's talk. Let's talk about devin haney. Real quick, me and you talked about.
Speaker 3:All right, you want to go back to the thing in that pbc card.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, actually can I'm? I have to piss because I'm boozing yeah um, let me piss. We'll take a break play some music I think we have, we have four. We have four viewers. Hi viewers say something. Viewers text us ask us a question. This is punchlines boxing the man that's pissed off your whole family on thanksgiving.
Speaker 3:The man that posts whatever's on his mind, doesn't give a fuck been canceled, don't care, he's here I get called racist all the time no, stupid wow no, but here's the thing, though they think I'm a different race when they call me that, like when I, like you can go piss.
Speaker 3:Boom, I'll tell you I'll fill willie in like, when I talk shit about mexican fighters and they're fighting a black guy, they're like y'all black motherfuckers are all the same. And I'll be like, hey, you better not be talking shit about the color of my skin, bro. Bro, we'll have real problems. And like, I post it to my story all the time. And then, you know, when I talk shit about black fighters, like they're like oh, like, you just hate black fighters. I'm like how are you going to call me a boxing fan and hate black fighters? Yeah, that is crazy, especially when most of my favorite fighters are black.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's the craziest thing.
Speaker 3:The whole sport is damn near black, black or Mexican or British, and people think this is what fucking kills me, bro. People think that just because a British fighter is white, I'm going to fuck with them. It's like, bro, I don't fuck with white Americans, we don't give a fuck about British people At all.
Speaker 1:We don't know what they got going on over there. Nobody watch those fights over there, unless somebody's going over there and taking their belts. Or if it's like a really big fight like the Ben-Eubank fight. The Ben and Eubanks fight was crazy. Yeah, that was a great fight. That was a great fight.
Speaker 3:So like I didn't care about it that much because I always thought it was a stupid matchup, yeah, just based off, because the weight class yeah for sure, and where they stood, because it's like eubank isn't going to be. I don't think he's ever going to be a world champion, unless they give him, like, some easy matchup this guy just fell into the damn table just now and I thought ben should have been fighting people in his own weight class, yeah, you know, like top fighters.
Speaker 3:I was like the only reason this fight makes somewhat of a sense is because of the history with their deaths. So I was like I really don't give a shit about this fight that much. But I put it on and I listened to it while I, like, mowed the lawn and like Yo, he's, no, no, he's just listening to the fight, he's not even watching it yeah, I well, I would stop to watch it.
Speaker 3:And it's like twice when I stopped to watch it, ben rocked eubank. I was like, oh yeah, like one of them was like in the second or third round and he like buckled eubank's knees a little bit and uh, so it's like I didn't like sit down and like watch the fight. So I kind of regret that, but it's whatever was you hoping?
Speaker 3:you was hoping ben to win, though I wanted ben to win because I I thought my thought was that if he won he'd go back to 147 and I want him to fight boots, bro, I really want that fight to happen.
Speaker 1:That's a good fight, that's a that's a good uh money fight right there that's, and they're both on match, they're both under match room this guy trying to get me drunk. I got to go work in a little bit. I know I'm all out of alcohol I'm pissed, that's a fact.
Speaker 3:All door there are some fucking long drinks right now I'm back.
Speaker 1:What time?
Speaker 2:is it over there?
Speaker 3:8.43. God damn, what are you guys talking about? I'm back. What time is it?
Speaker 2:over there 8.43. God damn, what are you guys talking about? I'm back. We'll do like I don't know. 30, 40 minutes.
Speaker 3:Fuck it. I'm going to order some drinks then.
Speaker 2:Hey, yo Live on the YouTube Sparring. Yeah, man Getting tipsy.
Speaker 1:You got to figure out how to get the chat on there, or something like that.
Speaker 2:I have the chat on there or something like that.
Speaker 3:I know I have the chat but we don't got any followers yet. It's all right, it's new, I'm gonna keep doing this. Yo, you want to be a regular, me you? Yeah, all right, I'm for sure down. I need, I don't have. I don't have the infrastructure in this new house, because I lived in a different house when I did my podcast back in the day and I had, like I have, like my pernell whitaker trucks behind me and my Damian Lillard jersey and all that shit.
Speaker 1:How do you feel about Dane being on the Bucs?
Speaker 3:It hurt but I got it. He was never going to win with us.
Speaker 2:I like that. He's a boxing fan, bro, I love that he's a boxing fan.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's cool, and I was a Blazers fan before that, so I was already a fan of him, but when I found out how big of a boxing fan he was, I loved it.
Speaker 2:What are you ordering?
Speaker 3:I'm just curious Long drink.
Speaker 1:What's that? What the hell is that?
Speaker 3:It's like a Finnish drink. They taste kind of like squirt, but they're like 12%.
Speaker 2:Oh man Like squirt. Never mind, I was going to get real weird, bro, you know what squirt tastes like. I do.
Speaker 3:It tastes like aspirin, bro. It tastes like cocaine that drips into your throat. That's what it tastes like. So, listeners, if you are a virgin, take an aspirin, yeah, and you know what, anybody who talks shit about like everybody always talks shit about oscar de la joya doing cocaine no, no bitch, have you ever done cocaine?
Speaker 2:have you? Have you ever have you, have you ever spoke to a fighter, though? A fighter like behind the scenes, what he does off, off duty, what does a fighter do?
Speaker 3:if you're talking shit about cocaine, you've either never done it, fucking nerd, or you've done so much of it that you're telling other people not to do it.
Speaker 2:So I, I, you gotta have fun I'm not anti-cocaine but I can honestly say I've never done it, but only because I. I know I've had it in my family close to me. I probably was born on it, yeah same. And I know my personality with the way I drink. Bro, alcohol to me is cocaine. So if I you never see me at a fight, man, we got to next time.
Speaker 3:This guy is crazy. When are you coming to New York, man? I don't know, not anytime soon, unless I get tickets to that Shakur fight.
Speaker 2:Can you get to Vegas? Is Vegas better for you?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I'm probably moving there. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1:Moving back there Talking about cocaine, here's the thing Every time I've done cocaine.
Speaker 3:I never partied after I did cocaine and then played video games. I'm serious, I did a line of coke and then fucking wrecked shop.
Speaker 1:I was like 16, right, and we was in Jamaica and I found out my dad did cocaine in Jamaica. So I'm like, yeah, he orders the cocaine. His dad is. But my dad used to run with rocks like this. He used to have a whole crew. He used to run the whole shit.
Speaker 2:I didn't know none of this For those listeners, this is a PG podcast.
Speaker 1:Yo, back in the day I did not know, my dad used to run this whole block, albany Avenue. What Used to run the whole? Shit he still runs the block man. I met his dad. Yo, this guy is crazy. Everybody know Worm man.
Speaker 3:Yo, his nickname is Worm Like Worm, Big Worm. What up Big Perm.
Speaker 1:That was before the movie out.
Speaker 2:That shit, damn man nah but you know, back back then, like your, your dad's age, your parents age, my parents age, cocaine was like weed he was still doing that shit, I guess, until he's late came off.
Speaker 1:He probably still, but I really never did I.
Speaker 2:I never did cocaine because I was like I know I've seen my parents, I'm like I know if I touch this stuff I'm gonna be hooked bad.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I, I I only do it when my friend has it, because it's like I'm not if I start getting a hold of it like I know how I am I'll go, I'll go and I'll buy a whole ounce of weed and the shit will be gone in a week I've never even liked weed.
Speaker 2:I mean, I've smoked weed obviously it would make me sleep like'm like I don't want to go to bed. But alcohol to me, I think because my mom was always drunk and high when I was in her stomach.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you, I got cocaine in my body.
Speaker 2:Me too, man. That's why we're friends, man. Yeah, cocaine, bro, Alright anyway, Yo one more cocaine story. What?
Speaker 1:the fuck did he turn into? My pops used to drive a garbage truck on cocaine. I used to go up to your dad's our biggest fan. I used to go to the goddamn truck and I'd see the white shit on his nose. I'd be like yo, you got to clean that shit up, bro. You over here driving around In New York, yeah, bro.
Speaker 3:You know how crazy you have to be to do cocaine in new york traffic bro just like yo we sitting here driving the truck.
Speaker 1:One time we's driving the back of the truck. Next thing you know it's a big hump, boom. I'm on the back of the truck holding it all like this almost fell off the damn truck. I'm like yo, you gotta slow down like you're wilding.
Speaker 2:But you know I could tell you, I could tell some stories, but that's for a different podcast. If you start a different podcast not boxing related we can tell stories on that one. What were we talking about, though? Boxing related.
Speaker 3:So we got the PBC card coming up. We got the Fulgham fight coming up.
Speaker 2:What we said? Beck Beck, the bully's fighting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think Beck fucks him up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Beck is one of those dudes. That's exciting because you know he can get knocked out. He just needs a little step up in competition.
Speaker 3:But you also know, he can knock people out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he's coming, he's coming.
Speaker 3:And I hope Fogum's doing sit-ups, bro, because his body is going to get lit the fuck up.
Speaker 2:Kind of like he reminds me of your boy Fox right In a sense, where Fox looked good but there was nothing on his punches. There was nothing on his punches you talking about.
Speaker 3:Fogum or Beck.
Speaker 2:Fogum. Okay, fogum kind of reminds me a little bit of like not obviously not not as tall as Fox, but he reminds me of him in a sense, just because that was a recent fight, that his punches have no zip on them, there's no pop on them. But Beck the Bully man. You've seen Beck the Bully. Right, willie don't got his laptop. I can't tell him to look it up real quick. This dude is a monster. Yeah, I think he's got the best body work in boxing. He's coming for your soul, he's not, and he has been knocked out. That was a flash knockout. Props to Gabe Rosado. That was awesome.
Speaker 3:Since then he's been on a tear and before Dude, he was going to fight Kovalev when he only had six fights, that's crazy Alcohol Kovalev.
Speaker 2:He only had six fights.
Speaker 3:That's crazy alcohol kovalev, though alcoholic kovalev still, he had six fights and kovalev tested positive for that synthetic testosterone shit, yeah can you was like I don't care, can I still fight him like?
Speaker 1:that's a bad motherfucker yeah that is bad, can I? Can I?
Speaker 2:ask you something a little off topic, but since you said you're, you're one of your favorite fighters. Is Andre Ward speaking of Kovalev?
Speaker 3:He lost the first fight.
Speaker 2:Okay, that was a test and you passed Punchlines boxing keeps it real. I stand by that.
Speaker 3:And I've rewatched it, wanting to give Andre rounds, and I can't, especially with the knockdown in the second round, I still don't think he won that fight. Now, the second fight, the second. A lot of people like to say he was hitting below the belt, even though kovalev's his trunks were like.
Speaker 2:The rule is if listen to this, listen to this, listen to this because your belly button is showing on the belt is illegal.
Speaker 3:If they're above your belly button, like your belly button's not showing, then the belt line illegal. If they're above your belly button, like your belly button's not showing, then the belt line is legal. And his shit was above his belly button and those punches were on the belt line. Those were legal punches.
Speaker 1:So, dubois, that punch for Usyk? Was it legal or?
Speaker 3:not, he's a big Dubois guy. I thought that was a legal shot. It was legal, legal, so in real time. I thought that was a legal shot. It was legal, legal, I think so.
Speaker 2:So in real time, though, in real time as a referee watching that. That's hard to dictate, though.
Speaker 1:It was that close. They got a replay? I think no.
Speaker 2:I don't think they did, I don't know where they at.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I'd have to watch the replay to see where the ref was standing, to see what his vantage point was. But when they showed the replay to me it looked like a legal shot In the replay yes, it depends where you're at.
Speaker 1:Who can have instant replay? I think with California.
Speaker 2:There was no instant replay on that one.
Speaker 1:Wherever they was at. They don't got instant replay.
Speaker 3:My whole thing is too I don't know what the rule in boxing is, because it changes by athletic commission. I think that's is too, cause I've, I know, in the. I don't know what the rule in boxing is Cause it changes by athletic commission, which is.
Speaker 2:I think that's stupid too. That's stupid yeah.
Speaker 3:But I know, like in the UFC, when an illegal shot like that happens and they stopped to review it, then the fight is automatically over. Oh, that's, yeah, that makes sense that actually that happened with one of your Long Island guys, with Chris Weidman.
Speaker 3:Oh okay, he fought I can't remember the guy's name, he was a good fighter, but he fought him and he got in need and they were like, oh, but his hand was down. So then they reviewed it and his hand wasn't down and it was an automatic TKO. For the other guy, gegard Mousasi that's who it was an automatic TKO for the other guy, gay guard. Musashi.
Speaker 2:That's who it was. I don't know. I don't know the name, but I do know.
Speaker 1:I do know why. So if they stopped the fight to review it and then it clears that it was a good hit is over.
Speaker 3:Well, either way, the fight was going to be over. It was either going to be a no contest the DQ or contest a dq, or or a tko. And it ended up being a tko because it was a legal shot. You think they should do that in boxing, or I don't think they should stop the fight for that, but I think, I think. I think, if like uh, you know what, you know what I for the navarrete, fight right I think they should have been able to do that shit.
Speaker 3:No, why that was horrible? Why that?
Speaker 2:was no. Why could tim bradley see it and we could see it, but they can't?
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying, that was fucked up and they got instant replay for that one.
Speaker 2:They had instant replay.
Speaker 1:The refs could have got that right, yeah, but we all saw it right, while they're still negotiating.
Speaker 2:I don't understand.
Speaker 3:I talked shit after that fight and everybody was like Navarrete should have won because he was up on the scorecards, like that was the right. No, decision.
Speaker 3:I thought it was the right decision. If it was a headbutt at the time, yeah. If it was a headbutt and went to technical decision, then, yeah, the right guy won. The problem is it wasn't a headbutt. And if you're gonna stop the fight because of the cut and the cut came from a punch then it should have been a TKO win for Suarez. That per the rules. Like you, can't have it both ways?
Speaker 2:So you know, I have something to say and I'm going to single out a single fan base and I'm going to get shit for this and I don't care, and I'm going to chop it up and repost it because I don't care, because I am a Tiafemo Lopez Tio sexual, the Latino fan base man. You got to stop being so biased. Can I just say that All the Latinos stop being so biased Like what you just said, like what you just said when you started the convo with Tio. It's okay. Like it's a sport. It's a fucking sport. The Yankees lost the world series. Right? I'm a Yankee fan. We sucked. La fucking beat us, those scumbags. We lost yeah, we lost the world series to fucking LA shit.
Speaker 2:And we have and we have, we have the best fucking player in baseball. We lost the fucking world series. Right, I'm still a Yankee fan, but I could admit that. And like Latino boxing fans, right, Like it's okay. Like when Tio may or may not have said a certain word, I was getting DM'd and I'm like yo guys, it's not okay, Even if it was close to that. Like it's not okay. Whatever he meant, it was not okay, it's fucking crazy bro.
Speaker 3:I kind of I kind of fucked up after that too and I felt bad because I had fighters reach out to me. But after that whole thing, when he said liquor and everything. And then he he posted that picture of him fighting barbosa and like taunting barbosa. I commented. I was like let a liquor know. And it was like not me being pro teo in that moment it's me trolling him yeah, like saying a quote knowing he didn't say liquor, and then he pinned it and then you know a few black fighters that we all know reached out to me and was like yo, like what's up with that?
Speaker 3:I was like brah, I was like fucking around, like I wasn't like egging him on or nothing. Yo and I felt bad because they felt that way and I was like, bro, I didn't want to make you guys feel that way, like if you look like I don't even follow teo on instagram, like I don't, and but obviously I'm not a huge fan of the guy but, this world is too soft yeah, and
Speaker 2:you should be able to troll somebody we talked about it and I know the fighters you're talking about.
Speaker 3:I think they didn't think I was trolling him. They thought I was like egging him on.
Speaker 2:But they should know your account bro.
Speaker 1:And he probably thought you was egging him on too. That's the crazy part.
Speaker 2:No, I think he knew Bro, I fucking texted him straight up Like we chat. So I texted him straight up and I was like I said I was like bro, I don't think you said he's like well, contrary to what you think, I said liquor. I think in his head he meant that he meant the alcohol liquor.
Speaker 3:But I don't think.
Speaker 2:I don't even think that.
Speaker 3:I think he knows what he said and he's trying to cover it up, and like a lot of liars, do.
Speaker 2:I don't know, though do because I but he keeps it real low, like with shit like that. He's never not like you know what I mean, like a pr nightmare, like yeah, but what has he done? That isn't a pr nightmare.
Speaker 3:There's pr nightmares, right like there's shit that's bad for pr, and then saying the hard r that's suicide, that's like, that's fucking. 9-11, 9-11 that's like the third worst thing you can do. The only thing that's worse than that is talking shit about fucking the LGBTQ community and talking shit about Jews, because that's the only time black people lose is when they talk shit about either of those two.
Speaker 1:That's what got Dave.
Speaker 3:Chappelle almost kicked off on Netflix.
Speaker 2:That's what got Kyrie Anyway we interrupt this with a commercial break. Don't get me started I told you, I warned you prior.
Speaker 1:RIP JFK Boxing we're sticking to boxing.
Speaker 3:Boxing is a foreign agent, they are just kidding.
Speaker 1:If you want to sponsor us we are pro everybody. Everything is coming to light anyway. Now Stop it.
Speaker 3:We're talking boxing. The noticing is real.
Speaker 2:Yes, the noticing of Tiafemo saying liquor or not is real yeah.
Speaker 1:That was a good one. I caught it, I caught it, I caught it. Hey, that's a good host. That's a good one.
Speaker 2:Going forward, boxing related. I wonder where really we have three viewers, though that's pretty cool. One of them is me, two of them are not me dude two of them just say something yeah yo, if you're viewing, say, is it you willie?
Speaker 1:are you? No, I'm not viewing are you viewing?
Speaker 2:no if you're viewing, say something, ask us a question. We're new to this uh, youtube shit, but we're gonna push it.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna push it hard. You want me to piss off the pb fans?
Speaker 2:Yeah, go ahead. By the way, for my radio listeners that made it this far you probably didn't, there's like 15 of you, but we're working. We're never going to give up. Actually, can you do like Willie? Hold on, let's have a revelation here. Sunday nights, or Monday nights, steady Sunday nights. Can you do Sunday nights, steady?
Speaker 3:For the most part, definitely Sunday. Can you do Sunday nights steady For the most part? Yeah, If I can't, I'll let you know. Okay, football season is going to be hard. Yeah, yeah, that's tough, that's the only sport I watch as religiously as boxing, it's football.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't, because I'm a Jet fan, but you're a Jaguar fan. Props to you. Props to you. What's?
Speaker 1:the drink you ordered. What's the idaho drink? It's. It's not an idaho drink like I used to long drink. What the fuck is long drink?
Speaker 3:I started drinking that I started drinking it when I lived in jersey.
Speaker 2:For real bro, I've been I. There's one thing I'm good at and that's drinking, and I've never heard of a long drink I'll send you a pic of it. You can probably find out the gas you think they'll sponsor us pick of it.
Speaker 3:You can probably find it at the gas.
Speaker 1:You think they'll sponsor us I'll drink long drinks all night if they sponsor us. What is it like a? You said it's like a mixed drink like a. No, it's like a, it's a beer I don't know.
Speaker 3:It's like a white claw, but like with more alcohol in it, and it doesn't taste as shitty.
Speaker 1:The.
Speaker 2:Trulies are pretty. That Trulie's pretty good, right? Yeah, it's pretty good. I'm drinking tequila because I'm retarded. I love tequila.
Speaker 3:I just try not to drink liquors, like I said, alcohol's an upper for me, and here I am, dude.
Speaker 2:we gotta go to a fight though. Me, you and go to a fight, though I want to go me you will be funny as hell.
Speaker 1:Maybe I'll I'll rip, that'd be funny. That'd be funny.
Speaker 2:That'd be a good time um, I get wild, though, just you show somebody who I made a meme about sees me who any of it?
Speaker 3:what do you mean?
Speaker 2:any of them no for for the radio listeners. There is some that make it this far. There is there is uh follow punchlines, underscore boxing. He doesn't need more followers. That's from the heart. He is funny as fuck doesn't.
Speaker 3:They're not gonna be able to find me if they don't follow me. They're not gonna be able to find me if they search me, because I'm shadow banned right now are you still shadow?
Speaker 2:yeah speak on that real quick. We'll take a little interlude away from boxing. What or is that interlude? Is that the right word, I don't know? Just a break from boxing. Speak on shadow bands, like what happens. I haven't been shadow banned, I don't want to be, and hopefully aligning myself with you doesn't get me shadow banned, your shit doesn't show up in the explore page.
Speaker 3:It doesn't show up and recommended um. People who don't follow you can't find you like. How do you? How do you know?
Speaker 2:if you're shadowban, though it lets you know and it tells you.
Speaker 3:You can see your account status and it'll tell you like I can't go live, I can't show up and recommend it, all of that did you start?
Speaker 2:did you start on instagram? Yeah, that's like my, I'm pretty much now.
Speaker 3:I'm only instagram I don't like, I have a youtube account but I haven't uploaded in like a year. Uh, I never post on facebook because facebook boxing groups are, yeah, literal cancer the worst.
Speaker 2:That's why I fired our last co-host. My last co-host. We get all his information.
Speaker 3:It's like, like facebook boxing I look at him. I'd be like, okay, that I'd call race fans, the race fans, like on every side, like people who root for fighters purely based off of their race, are all on facebook. Yeah, all, and reddit and reddit.
Speaker 2:I don't go on reddit, yeah I got reddit's great for porn, though oh, I don't, I don't watch what hey no better than you know. Twitter is better, oh no, twitter and reddit are in like cahoots with porn.
Speaker 3:I don't watch porn anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, you drink long.
Speaker 3:No, I'm serious, I quit watching porn. Never mind, because I'm going to get you in trouble if I say why I don't watch porn anymore.
Speaker 2:Tell me off the record If you're listening and we get our two listeners to comment. Hey, two listeners.
Speaker 3:The two listeners to comment. Two listeners. The two listeners Google, who runs 90% of the porn industry and where they send money to.
Speaker 2:And then you'll see why.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, all right, I guess, Fucking guys. Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:California.
Speaker 1:He hates California.
Speaker 2:He hates.
Speaker 1:California. I got Google listening. No, you don't.
Speaker 2:God damn it. This is not a political podcast I like this shit. Yeah, I know you would. I, I want him.
Speaker 3:We were talking the other night and I'm like yeah, willie willie's like all right anyway uh, yeah, so, because remember it was the meme I posted. I was like, uh, turkey to william skull after that bullshit fight and it's that muslim dude like beheading the guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was that was I knew I being in ex-military right, part of my job right and I'm gonna give a little insight on my life was you know what? Do you know what sipper net is? No?
Speaker 2:oh yeah I do so it's like the top secret, like internet. It's basically the, the wire that connects to the internet. It's that, but top secret, and it's red. So part of my job was like I had to like go through all these files and make these power points that would go to generals. Generals are like top dog, um, and I would see all those videos, right, like all of them, and like one or two would leak like a month right. Yeah, there were thousands of beheading videos and you posted that, bro. It gave me like PTSD bro. It brought me right back. I was like, oh my God, he really posted that here's the thing In the real video.
Speaker 2:Explain to Willie what you posted and the listeners.
Speaker 3:So it was turkey to skull after that fight. And then it's a guy like a Muslim guy standing there and he a skull after that fight.
Speaker 2:and then it's a guy like a muslim guy standing there and he's going like this and you just hear a guy screaming. In the real video, the camera pans down and he's just brushing the guy's teeth. Okay, well you, you got me.
Speaker 3:You got me, you caught me because I was like and I have used that video before for a meme and nothing happened. It's still on my account, but that one got removed and it got me shadow banned. It was turkey. Yeah, here's the other thing, though. Every time I start to get a bunch of views on videos like I get a few videos with a bunch of views I always get flagged for something.
Speaker 2:It happens every time you know how, you know what. What caught my attention speaking with other like podcasters, like there's the guys at four corners right, four corners boxing.
Speaker 2:They're out of new york oh the it's the main year, yeah, yeah yeah, and they're good with their like monikers in person, right? So I I caught up with them and I was like yo, like first of all, I was asking them like how do you go to all these fights? Like, because I'm I'm broke, like I'm here but I'm literally like dead broke, and they were just explaining to me what to do, or whatever. They were like yo, like you have to buy the Instagram ads and something hit me and I was like, but I was like shit. So if Instagram is monetizing, how you get into those algorithms's?
Speaker 3:it's fake yeah, it's the pay to play shit but I don't. I don't sponsor none of my shit.
Speaker 2:I get a bunch like I. I get natural views yeah, like, see, see, but you, you, you have that comedic, you're, you're, you're like, yeah, like you're in a congested market yeah, I'm like I gotta, I gotta play politics for lack of a better term.
Speaker 3:In order to differentiate yourself, you either have to get big name fighters on or a lot, and do it that way. But for me, because again. I got go viral, yeah well, when I started off as a podcast, I was getting no views on my shit ever.
Speaker 2:But then you got controversial.
Speaker 3:Well, I started doing memes because I knew I was funny and I looked at everybody was either a podcast or a news page or a highlights page where people just reshare highlights that other pages post. They don't even make their own content.
Speaker 2:I see a lot of that too in this weird market yeah, those pages get hundreds of thousands of followers I will never do that. I will never do.
Speaker 3:I will never do that I don't understand how it's fun to do that I really, unless your whole goal is to just get viewers and then make a business out of it. But it's like I'm not driven to do something we need, you know we.
Speaker 2:I think what we need right is like we need to wear like a camera at the fights, because that's when, like bro, I was gonna buy the.
Speaker 1:I'm not even gonna tell you, I can't tell.
Speaker 2:I can't tell, because once you say something that everybody else is gonna whatever yeah, but um, we need like, because at the fights, bro, like, like this energy, you get here talking on the podcast. Yeah, is legit what we are at the fights, bro, like, like this energy, you get here talking on the podcast yeah. Is legit what we are at the fights on steroids, like we're going nuts, we're going bananas and like fighters have said that. So that feedback to me is like a win, just like when a fighter repost your content, bring your dog in.
Speaker 3:I don't even know what the fuck he's barking at.
Speaker 2:Hey, you good, you tired.
Speaker 1:Huh, I'm a'ight.
Speaker 3:Hey, come on, what are you doing?
Speaker 1:I can't hear you, you came, yeah, did you hear that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, hey, what up hey yo yo what up.
Speaker 2:What kind of dog is that? He's a chawini bro. Bro, I got a chawini. He's sleeping, though I swear to god I wish this little fucker was sleeping.
Speaker 1:Yo, chawinis are mean, bro, and they're racist right, william, your dog is racist, I ain't gonna lie. He like me now, but Franklin ain't mean he's just a puppy.
Speaker 3:He's sweet, but he's fucking annoying.
Speaker 1:What's his name?
Speaker 3:Franklin that's what his name was when they adopted him. What's your dog name, chuck?
Speaker 1:Oh Chuck, I'm Chuck or some shit.
Speaker 2:Let's wrap it up in a minute. Who knows what's going on.
Speaker 3:Well, fuck it, dude, let's keep talking. I want a drink on here. My shit ain't here yet.
Speaker 2:Yo, when are we going to leave?
Speaker 1:It's going to be me, lets you out.
Speaker 3:Whatever I'm down, we can keep talking bro, I don't give a shit.
Speaker 2:I'm about to text Tia Fimo. Right now I'm going to text his number.
Speaker 1:Yeah right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then he's going to come in here and cuss me out and shit.
Speaker 2:So it'll be funny. It will be funny, but no, we can keep it real, respectfully real, real yeah, because I didn't say anything bad about no, no like like so okay, let's, let's get into that. We'll make some shit to chop up and post out on reels at 140, right at 140. What go, dude, I gotta piss bad, all right go ahead, go ahead oh I've been uh, I don't know who. Who's your top five? Willie, all time Boxing. All time you don't even want to open that I'll open it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you drink. I'm not drinking that. You want water, I want to sleep.
Speaker 2:Sorry, Go bro.
Speaker 1:You don't got to. Yeah, I'm about to get up out of here.
Speaker 2:You know we're going to yap all night now All day.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say my peace and be out. Who? I got I don't know. All right, I have generic people. I feel like Tank is your guy. He's not at my all-time, I don't think he might be. He might be like five.
Speaker 2:Who was it before Tank?
Speaker 1:It was always Floyd Floyd. Yeah, I grew up on Floyd.
Speaker 2:That's a big Chihuahua, bro, that's a big dog.
Speaker 1:I always loved Ali. For some reason.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I like Holyfield for some reason. You good, yeah, I like the Holyfield some reason. You good, I like the Holyfield.
Speaker 2:Yo, we're gonna Hold on so Floyd. Hold on Willie's top five.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Floyd is definitely number one. Ali, it was Tyson. It was Tyson it was. Let me see who else was fucking a dog. Who? Who we talking about?
Speaker 3:oh shit, I think my drinks are here already.
Speaker 2:Damn, who else I got when he come back, I'll close out the show alright, you all gonna restart yeah oh, you gotta follow.
Speaker 1:you gotta stay live show with me. You're all going to restart. You got to follow. You might as well stay live, sorry.
Speaker 2:Willie has to work. Willie is a hardworking man For our listeners. It is 11.11 pm, East Coast time. Make a wish I'm on vacation from work, so I'm going to be up all night chopping it up with him. We're going to try and get other people in this chat, Willie bro, it was nice meeting you bro.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, Yo, I'm hollering at you. Yeah, I'm going to follow you.
Speaker 2:You're Divine TV, right yeah yeah, yeah, you said I got to show this lady my ID.
Speaker 3:Yeah, bro, you got it now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll see you next week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1:All right later.
Speaker 2:All right, we're closing it out. It's just me, puma, will you go to bed? I'm sorry, bro, I didn't expect to go that long. Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 1:You good, that was good though, yeah, yeah.