THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST
THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST
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THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST
Timberlands, Lithuanians, and Uppercuts: A Night of Boxing in Atlantic City
Jaron "Boots" Ennis just delivered a statement performance that has the boxing world buzzing. Standing across from him was the previously undefeated Eimantas Stanionis, a fighter no one had ever been able to stop - until now. What we witnessed wasn't just a victory, but a declaration: Ennis belongs among boxing's elite.
It's time for the main event. It's the Spartan Podcast. Oh, it's a knockout.
Speaker 2:You got a shower. What I got in the shower. We are live. Episode 61, willie. Hold that thought of the Spartan Boxing Podcast. Our intros are getting weirder and weirder by the day. What up y'all? Puma and Willie episode 61.
Speaker 1:What up man, what up Spar and what up y'all.
Speaker 2:Willie is here. What? Up y'all, there's a wire pissing me off, I see it.
Speaker 1:Where the fuck is the wire.
Speaker 2:This new program we're using is way better. That being said said, wait what? See it to the left, whatever. What were you saying?
Speaker 1:about the shower real quick. Let's start the show off with that. Nah, that's what happened in the shower like I'm dying. I'm like I got in the shower, my fucking body started turning red.
Speaker 2:You had like the flu or something bro no, call the doctor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm about to die.
Speaker 2:I'm a holly yo let's say that willie's not about to die.
Speaker 1:I've started go for me.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, willie's about to die. I've started going funny. Oh yeah, yeah, well, he's about to die. Actually, nah, nah, yeah. So we have a packed show here. I'm looking at my phone right now. We might have some guests or one guest or no guests. Probably no guests. But you know these boxers, they're busy, busy lives. I'm just coming home from New Jersey. Yo, how was that man? I was there. So we're going to obviously talk about Jaron Boots, ennis versus Imanis I can't say names. Bro Stenionis, who can call him Stan Stenionis? Yeah, imanis Stenionis. I can't say names. Yo, we're going to call him Stan Stan Jonas. Yeah, I'm on this, Stan Jonas. I can't say names, yo, so, yeah, I have a lot to talk about. I haven't even talked to Willie about it yet. He's been busy too. He couldn't make it to the fight. I had to bring the old wifey, yeah, yeah, my daughter got bronze and cheer dad.
Speaker 2:Willie is proof that looks can't be deceiving, or looks are deceiving, because I look at Willie, he's got a native boxing club shirt on, he's got a little mini fro, a nice edged up beard and he's a cheer dad and he's into it.
Speaker 1:And he's into it. I mean, there's a lot of cheer dads over there. There's a little bit too much cheer dadding going around Really. Dad's over there, there's a little bit too much cheer dadding going around Really. Is there a cheer dad that got his son in there?
Speaker 2:I'm like yo this guy A little zesty pops I don't think his son is, but I don't know. A little zest is good. Sprinkle a little zest in there, those dads is a little bit out of control. Well, I'll tell you where there was no cheer dads, and that was in Atlantic.
Speaker 1:City, new Jersey. No, it was, it was, it was another competition. Yeah, we had, oh, in Atlantic City. Yeah, we had, oh, we had Pac-5 out there.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you one more time than where there was no cheer dads Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, where.
Speaker 1:Boots and his wife Stan Jonas. It was cheer dads was lit.
Speaker 2:Dan, it was not Dude, but it was weird. I don't know what hotel the fighter stayed at. I stayed at the Borgata I met up with after the fight. I'll get there. I'll get there. Goddamn, I'm excited. I'm really excited you just talk about this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, of course, always. So first off, just real quick, I dragged her along. She really didn't want to go um me in an air. I've never been to vegas for a reason, because it checks off all my boxes. So me being in atlantic city is like a shitty vegas. It also checks off all my boxes, maybe even a little more.
Speaker 2:It's a little more trashy yeah and I'm into that, so it was awesome. I stayed at the borgata. I actually got comped a room, which was cool because I'm a degenerate gambler, so the room was free, but they got their money back. Let me tell you they got their money.
Speaker 1:You're gambling, of course I was gambling um, so you're on a slice like an old lady.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, but dude, that was the slots. I don't understand. I just press buttons.
Speaker 1:I'm all about roulette, baby either we're jumping on a real table yeah, well, we did the real a little bit and then.
Speaker 2:But in the sports bar they have the online or the electronic. We love that, bro, but I have a gripe with Borgata. So they have it. We got to try and look at the camera more. I keep looking at you, but sorry, my gripe is that in the sports bar there's like maybe 10. There's like a circular bar in Borgata and then there's 10 sections, like 10 sections to to gamble and and drink or whatever right. So they have reserves, like you reserve it, like they put a reserve sign on it. So someone like left and is coming, like maybe they're gambling. No, move your feet, lose your fucking seat, I'm coming.
Speaker 2:So some bartender ruined the vibes. You know, we were up like almost. I think it was like we only played a hundred, a hundred dollars a table. We were up like 500,. I think it was like we only played $100 a table. We were up like $500. This bartender's like excuse me, that's reserved. Like yeah, we know, we talked to the other bartender. He's being a total dickhead. Yeah, lost it all. We left. My wife was calling him the woe, the worst of all time, screaming it to him.
Speaker 2:You're the woe, you're the woe, and he was dude. We didn't go back when he was there and then usually, when we went back, finally we had to because he was the only one there. When you gamble, they give you the drinks for free.
Speaker 2:So we were gambling. He charged us for a drink and we're like, bro, you are the worst, see you later. But yeah, that's that. Let's talk about the fight. Let's get into that. They don't care about my degenerate hobbies and habits. The people don't care. Jaron Boutanis vs Iamanas Stagnonis I can't say it right. First of all, I want to give a huge shout out to the Lithuanians. They fucking showed up there. Oh, they was crazy out there.
Speaker 2:Dude, listen, you and me have been to a lot of fights. I've been to a million fights. I'm always one wrong word, from away from getting beat up. Yeah, you've been there always close, very close. I know what I'm doing, though.
Speaker 2:Um, and I got hands, motherfucker, but anyway, uh, we're there, right, and we're looking around the crowd and and it was a predominantly black crowd. Obviously, everyone's there for boots, um, and but you did see pockets of like these, these lithuanian dudes, right, like, yeah, and, and you know, when you sit on the floor which I didn't I sat one level up, which was a great, great, uh, choice, shout out to jim boone. He suggested that ko tickets, if you want tickets, go to jim boone, ko tickets. Um, so I'm like a level up, but I'm still right there, right, and I'm looking around. I'm like, yeah, predominantly black crowd, which was expected.
Speaker 2:And and you see these like little lithuanian. You knew, you just knew like they. They weren't, they were eastern european white folk, it wasn't like american white folk, yeah, and, and you see them there, whatever, and I knew, I, I'm just looking and they're chirping. You know it was a huge philly crowd. Philly's chirping, philly's right there, so philly's chirping, philly's right there. So Philly's chirping, and I knew tensions were going to keep going. They were drinking too, and usually you don't see the Eastern Europeans drinking. They were fucking boozing, bro. The Lithuanians were boozing, and that did not end well. It did, it did not end well. No, there was one guy decked out in Philly gear on the floor and then like two rows behind him a little bit.
Speaker 1:That's our boy to the left, with the south jersey no, he's in new york, man, that's my guy.
Speaker 2:So so I'm looking and I'm like, oh man, I'm out. I just happen to be videotaping it because I see it getting worse and worse and they're pointing. But then you see, like I noticed this and they stuck out like a sore thumb. Like I said, it was a predominantly black crowd. I see other little white dudes standing. You see these bald little white heads looking back. It was like little light bulbs rising. It was crazy, I swear.
Speaker 2:And the dude decked out in the Philadelphia Eagles gear is doing his thing, tall black dude, skinny dude, and he's talking shit. And then I see a little light bulb head, a little white dude walking by bro. I see a little light bulb head, a little white dude walking by bro Grabs his neck. Dude sits down and I got it on camera, I posted it and I'm like, oh shit. And now, just, it's not a melee, but everyone's like what the fuck? What the fuck? The Lithuanian dudes did not play. Like you felt that coming. I'm like yo, they're going to do something, like they're going to do something. They're going to do something and they did, but that was it. Then, wait, somebody got grabbed up. Yeah, he got grabbed up. They kicked that dude out.
Speaker 1:It was like I said a white dude he was tired of him talking shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was during the fight. Yeah, during the fight. Middle of the rounds.
Speaker 1:And they didn't even, freaking, last that long Six rounds.
Speaker 2:But they were like you saw it happening. The Lithuanian dude he was in like a blue jacket. He's clearly family with Stan Jonas. He was talking shit too, though, like you know, they were both going back and forth. And it happens, you know, when you sit on the floor with the families. Listen, I've been slapped, I've been almost jumped. A lot of things have happened to me. I've been there.
Speaker 1:This fight, though, speaking of that, I was very good. You was, yeah, I wasn't really. Oh, because your wife got you a check. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:No, no, not even. Not even Because she's been at Tia, fimo fights with me when I lose it.
Speaker 1:But that's Tia though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, true, but no, I was very. I wasn't really. You know, I was there to watch the fight. I was excited but I wasn't really like invested, like whoever won won. I was there to see a good fight and I did.
Speaker 1:I saw a great fight. You saw a great fight.
Speaker 2:You saw a massive piece. I also saw our guy Scuderi, giovanni Scuderi. Dude was dapper bro, he walked in. I saw him right away. Uh, dude was dapper bro, he walked in. I saw right away tall dude. Yeah, suited up. I'm like yo, jl. He's like oh, he walked over, bro, we took a picture with him. It was awesome. Then on the ride home, I'm on the new jersey turnpike and I'm driving right yeah, and you know, when you drive home you're always out of it like I'm just in, like deep salt, like, yeah, that was me coming from maryland.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're just like traffic you're thinking about like yonder years.
Speaker 1:No, it'd be like we so close, but we so far. You get a belt parkway, new York.
Speaker 2:The minute you enter New York it's like, oh traffic, yo traffic.
Speaker 1:And it's like we so close but so far.
Speaker 2:So we're on the turnpike, cruising right, and I see this suv bmw right, yeah, this black suv bmw, all blacked out windows, and it's like creeping up on my ass and I'm driving. I see it, I'm like whatever, drinking my iced coffee, like a good old white boy driving his van and fucking. I don't drive a van. And all of a sudden now it's on my left side and now I'm like like all right, hey, what's up, buddy, how you doing? It's like and it's going with me and I see them because the windows were blacked out, cracked the windows, and I look over and it's G-Five, scuderi, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1:I swear to God.
Speaker 2:He's like oh, that's crazy. And I'm like and then he just booked it. He was driving. Yeah, he was driving. How did he notice you? Because my car is decked out with Spar Inches.
Speaker 1:I'm crying. That shit is man funny. Wow, now I need a Spar Inch to go watch it.
Speaker 2:I was like yo shit, we should have that on video. But no, it was good man.
Speaker 1:That was fire. That is fire. Now, that's worth it.
Speaker 2:I said that just the whole time. I'm thinking about that. That just made my ride that made my trip. So shout out to you Giovanni, great dude, his team won. Man, he's in Ennis' camp with Boozy Ennis. We interviewed him a few episodes back. Awesome dude. Man Dapper is like just fucking suited up. Nobody was really in suits. Well, my man was suited up svelte suit, I don't know what the fuck it was. Uh, good dude though. But then he, when he fucking that shit was funny. I'm like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:yeah, just creep it up and then it got me thinking.
Speaker 2:I'm like yo, if I see pennsylvania plates, that's got to be ennis. I like where these pa plates at. But uh, yeah, it was cool. Um, let me talk about boardwalk hall, though. So great venue, yeah, awesome venue. It is not like msg or, uh, like any any yankee stadium, I'm just naming like stadiums. It's not like that. It's it's and and it's not. It's kind of it's a little bigger than the hulu theater. Um, security really lacks there. So we go through the metal detector, right, yeah, and I'm like, oh shit. I'm like, oh shit, I'm sorry my keys are in my pocket. Like, oh, don't worry, it didn't go off anyway. I'm like, oh, I'm like oh shit.
Speaker 1:They just bring anything, all right.
Speaker 2:I'm like red plastic cups and I'm like yo, what the fuck? And then I'm seeing a lot of like water bottles with brown liquor. I'm like yo, what like? Everyone's bringing their own shit in here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, I was like what the fuck I'm gonna be bringing your own beer 30 which I will say was a good deal for like these jars of I was like what the fuck.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be paying $30, which I will say was a good deal for these jars of tequila and something soda, whatever you want, and $30 because we're used to MSG prices, which was a good deal. But every seat at Boardwalk Hall first time there was awesome. They had a banner for Turo Gatti. He had like 15 or something fights there, so I hope there is more fights there. They need to update it a little bit.
Speaker 2:The seats were, like you know, little flimsy, little flimsy and there was. There was no like there's a lot of moving of seats. People were just getting in, I guess, and like, oh, you got to move, you got. That almost started some drama, for whatever reason. We had our seats, we paid for our seats. Yeah, people kept coming up to to meet my wife and they're like this is the seat. I'm like, no, it's not, this is our seat. So that was a little weird, but you saw it all over People just trying to get seats. The crowd was good though. They were funny. This lady next to us, right, she goes. They really be picking the only two white people here acting like they didn't pay for their seats. We were dying laughing. It was a good time Because, bro, I'm not even kidding, Bro, I'm not even kidding. It happened like five or six times.
Speaker 1:We're like yo. Y'all don't belong here.
Speaker 2:Finally, I'm like this is my seat, like this is my seat.
Speaker 1:Let's go Reverse racism.
Speaker 2:I'm like this is our seat. It was funny though it was, it was good, I love it, I love it. But something happened at that, so we'll get into the fight in a minute. Just, you know when we, when I go to an event, an event, yeah. So when we left, you have to walk like on the boardwalk to get out of there. The front entrance is on the boardwalk I guess that's why they call it boardwalk hall.
Speaker 2:And, dude, there was cops, like they must have knew something was gonna happen. So we're leaving and, uh, there was cops like every. You know, on a boardwalk there's side streets that you leave like every two streets. There was a cop car on the boardwalk, on the board, so we're leaving and then we go off a side street. We're trying to get an uber because we're gonna go to this other bar. Long story short, we could walk there. It was off the border, whatever. So, fucking, all of a sudden, the cop that's parked on that side street, like blocking cars from coming in, yeah, pulls like a three-point turn fast and we're like what the fuck, bro? There must have been a huge melee, a huge fight, because cops were coming from every street, bro, we couldn't cross the street. It was like crazy bro. We're like what the fuck? And you just hear people like yelling and I'm I'm guessing the lithuanians and then the, the philly folk. They were not meshing and yeah and listen.
Speaker 2:I'm sure the lithuanians got their ass kicked. They're very outnumbered but I will say they are very prideful people. But they did not give a fuck. I saw they did not give a fuck.
Speaker 1:I saw it they did not give a fuck. My boy, stan Jonas, looked like you ever played the game Bully.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he did. He was like, y'all got it bro.
Speaker 1:I don't know what's his name, though.
Speaker 2:Damn what's his name from Bully. I've seen that.
Speaker 1:I've seen that I still got that game on my console too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, stan Jonas took a bit of a beating. I just got one more thing I want to say before we get into that New York has lost officially. I'm saying it right here, right now who wears Tim's wore, philly or New York? We have lost. New York has lost.
Speaker 1:Philly took the Tim's they had butters, though they had butters. There was Timberland boots Alright, there was Tims, bro. They had butters, though they had butters. There was Timberland boots All right, there was Timberland boots. It's not even wintertime. That's the crazy part, yeah there was Timberland boots everywhere.
Speaker 2:They were tripping down the stairs and shit, because the stairs were steep. You know, boots. I swear Maybe it was, for they took over Tims?
Speaker 1:I was, but then, like Chicago, took over Uptowns, did they. What do we got now?
Speaker 2:What does New York got?
Speaker 1:I don't understand how they took and they changed the whole name G-Fazos. What the fuck is that Really?
Speaker 2:I didn't even know.
Speaker 1:Nah, still Forces or Uptowns to me, yeah, they be like Uptowns Forces. Yeah, no, they call them G-Fazos and all white U. Yeah, no, that's weird, chicago, you're weird. And then especially the black ones, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that thing they got their own, Bro, I'm telling you, no, they just steal everything from you.
Speaker 2:Man Nah, Philly, dude, there was Timberlands everywhere. I was like what the fuck Did I miss the memo?
Speaker 1:Maybe it was for boots. They're rooting for boots, boots for boots, boots, oh that, that makes sense. See that, um, see you. You leave a shit out. What do you mean?
Speaker 2:you knew where I was all right enough about that, though um crowd got into a fire like a timbaland boot, like uh, no, no, that was a him.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was um oh, that was uh, that was uh yeah, so yeah, and he's from philly, so yo, they won.
Speaker 2:They won the philly battle. You, yep, they won. They won the Philly battle you can have it yeah, they won On behalf of New York, bro. Nah, they wilder. Yeah, seriously. But all right, let's get into the fight itself. We'll start off with that. I'll speak a little bit on the undercard. I just want to talk about Ray Ford, yeah man, oh that performance.
Speaker 1:How, oh that performance. How was that? That performance was crazy. And you was in the building for that performance, jerron Ennis man, and that shit did not. I did not expect that, bro. I did not believe that Stenny Onus was going, but I said you know what I said? Remember, we was talking. I was like yo, I think him not taking a tune-up was going to.
Speaker 2:I don't know Was going to. I don't know was gonna. I think. I think a little different. I think geron and it's just showed how he's capable of and when he fights, a great fighter like no, he put on a show out.
Speaker 1:He put on a show, he he put on a show. I feel bad for bro brian newman. I ain't gonna lie right now.
Speaker 2:Norman, we'll get there.
Speaker 1:I feel bad. Barrios is done. We'll close out with that. I feel bad for anybody that's trying to fight.
Speaker 2:I will say this. We'll get into the details of the fight in a second. I agree with you. There's no shot. The only shot is a knockout. Boots is fighting himself right now, in a sense. Is he staying at this weight or is he moving up?
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I think he's going to, so I thought I think he's going to get undisputed here. It's there.
Speaker 2:It's there for the taking. It's right there.
Speaker 1:And then you know, moving up, moving up, it's a couple, it's a fight. There's a lot of fights out.
Speaker 2:Oh no, yeah, I'm going to close out with that. But 154 stacked for Boots Money, wise, great fight wise.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he might just you know, chill out.
Speaker 2:But he can. He has a real shot at undisputed, but we don't know. I have an opinion of it that the big question was can boots make weight? I was seeing shit in the way and he looks drained. He looks drained, oh my god, and he is a big dude.
Speaker 1:But he, he said it himself. He's like yo. Everybody's saying like yo, he, he, I can't make weight. He's like you know, he's professional he's a professional he's a professional fighter. Yeah, discipline fighter first. He's a disciplined motherfucking fighter, bro, and you all you hear is about him being disciplined and how he do.
Speaker 2:I think piggybacking off that. I think the weight shit is bullshit. I think he can make weight. We just saw how he performed like he can make weight. Yeah, they just want him to move up and and do I think he? Maybe he shows a little less versus like everything with the Chukadzian fight. That's where people were like wait, wait, what.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Styles makes fights. And that dude. He showed up for this fight, showed out. If you sitting there, if you're not athletic, you are not lasting. If you sitting there and you trying to take some punches, it's over. If you're sitting duck for boots, it's over. You have to be athletic. You have to be athletic. You got to be able to move.
Speaker 2:Stopping Stan.
Speaker 1:Jonas dude.
Speaker 2:Dude, stopping Stan Jonas has never been done. Nobody thought it was going to happen.
Speaker 1:I thought boots was going to just we didn't, I definitely didn't.
Speaker 2:I thought he was going to weather the storm. I thought he was going to get hit with some shit wrap up or whatever, defensively. He didn't even get hit like that. He did take some shots on the chin, though Stan Jonas did get some shots.
Speaker 1:It was pop shot. Stan Jonas was like doing like some like. The overhand chin down yeah like Canelo type of Now the now Canelo.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, the one that's just Not throwing enough combos. One shot, no combos, no combos.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? No, jab nothing. I'm like what's this guy doing? I'm like this is not. I end up falling in love with standing on this last fight, the last fight. It's been like over a year, so it's like yo, bro, what are we doing?
Speaker 2:He couldn't do anything, he couldn't do nothing. And then when he hit him with those shots, he did hit him clean a few times and Ennis just ate it uppercut right back.
Speaker 1:His whole pride just went. Yeah, I fucked up. I really thought this shit was going to go the distance and I re-bet it the distance. I'm like, oh, it's going to go as the fight's going on.
Speaker 2:I'm like, oh shit, in the middle rounds it started to loosen up, yeah, but in the middle rounds I'm like Stignone's better come alive. But I still didn't think he was going to get stopped. I still didn't think I was like no, he's just going to shut him out.
Speaker 1:Not in the corner too, like he didn't even come back out.
Speaker 2:So I thought I didn't understand that I didn't know what happened. The corner stopped it. The ref messed up, but the corner stopped it.
Speaker 1:The corner stopped it. The sixth round that counts as a six or a seven. Six Seven didn't start.
Speaker 2:It didn't start, yeah, so six.
Speaker 1:He quit on a six.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so he didn't quit, but the corner stopped it and I was like why it's Stenonis, why are you stopping it? He?
Speaker 1:agreed to it.
Speaker 2:He didn't have. No. Then I saw the video, because you know when you're live. I saw the video. I was like I've never seen Stagnonis look like that.
Speaker 1:Yo, he had no pushback on that shit Of course he just got hit with four uppercuts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, get me out of here. So I was, and you know what. Okay, now people are saying Stagnonis isn't good. No, boots is just that good Like Stagnonis beats.
Speaker 1:Yeah, stagnonis beats. Yeah, stagnonis beats People. Is weird.
Speaker 2:Let's see what Norman does against Stagnonis. Let's see that.
Speaker 1:Nah, I got, we got to see, I want Norman to beat Barrios. And then we have.
Speaker 2:Norman.
Speaker 1:Boots.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for.
Speaker 1:Undisputed, and that would be the best fight. Barrios is Barrios is.
Speaker 2:I think the route he's going to go Boots is if it's, you think he's going to take everybody's belt. Yeah, I think he's going to stay and just get undisputed because he could and he's going to.
Speaker 2:Who promotions Barrios, barrios, pbc, and wait, they all wait it was pbc and and wait, they all wait, pbc, no, um, and this is brian. And who espn? Huh, espn, he's a top rank player. Oh, I'm sorry, top rank, yeah, top rank, espn, top rank. And then this is with the zone, so but, but there is good news with this whole merging with turk, al-ashik or whatever, yeah the fights should be easier to make, because now DAZN.
Speaker 1:At least with top rank and Matchroom, I'm sorry, matchroom.
Speaker 2:Now DAZN is going to be airing matchroom and top rank apparently.
Speaker 1:So top rank, and so the easiest fight to make is Bryan and Boots then I guess, yeah, we got to see. Though I mean Barrios is going to get killed over there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. He might even just leave the belt, who knows Yo?
Speaker 1:Barrios go back down. Who knows what he's going to do Listen.
Speaker 2:Barrios has been winning, though he's tough. He's tough and he'll fight anyone too. I think Boots, though they're going to make Matchroom, is going to come up and deal with PBC. Make that fight PBC's on the way out, it looks like so they only got. Their biggest draw right now is Tank.
Speaker 2:And that's it really draw-wise. So it appears that they're on the way out. I mean, I guess you could say Tim Zoo, but I'll get into Tim Zoo in a minute. Damn, we got something about Tim Zoo. Yeah, a little sort of. But anyway, I was trying to figure out, like when I was re-watching the highlights after this fight, and I'm trying to find something negative to say about Ennis in this fight and I really couldn't. I mean, you could say he gets hit a lot, but he still gets hit a little bit, but he took hits from Stan Jonas, so he took those hits.
Speaker 1:He, he gets every right, Every all the greats get hit.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? It's like. I couldn't.
Speaker 1:It's going to take you If either you want him to be all the way defensive like, or you want to, he's. He's taking risk, yeah, and he's and he's playing and then flashy yeah and he's doing his thing.
Speaker 2:So I wrote like a list of what I like to see in like a boxer.
Speaker 1:Wow, at least thought he was gonna get hit and rocked and hurt like rap.
Speaker 2:Have to wrap up something with staniel.
Speaker 1:It's like this is supposed to be like the the shocker like yo. This is supposed to be like the shock of like yo this is going to Yep.
Speaker 2:He had a point. Nobody saw him stopping Stan Jonas, so I made a list of like things I like Nah the Ozmakers did, though they didn't give us no money.
Speaker 1:No, they didn't see him stopping Stan Jonas. They didn't give us no money. It was like it was only like plus, like plus 110 or something To stop, stan Jonas yeah. It wasn't that much. That's crazy. I didn't know that. Points and points the points, him winning by points and him getting stopped. It was like they had made the same thing.
Speaker 2:Really, oh, I would have bet, I would have bet all that just to try and win.
Speaker 1:Then it was only plus 100 or something.
Speaker 2:Really, yeah, plus 100 and something really, yeah, oh well, the fans then anyway, had no idea, I didn't. I thought it was a good distance, I thought for sure, distance, I thought distance locked, um, so I I made a list of like what I like in an all-around fighter right, footwork, defense, chin power, boxing, iq and entertainment, right, yeah. So like what you look for and like what's good, what's bad, yeah. So I'm watching, I'm watching again and I'm like footwork. He had stan jonas running forward. He had stan jonas running forward aimlessly and he had him looking confused, like just running forward aimlessly, looking confused because of his footwork. So his footwork, positive check. And then I'm like, all right, his defense, that goes hand in hand with footwork. I'm like, okay, he, okay, he's, he's toying with Sten Jonas, baiting him elusive as fuck Made him miss him, Made him miss like and then made him pay right away and it was insane.
Speaker 2:So his defense check positive. I'm like, all right, I got to find something negative here, so I keep watching, I keep watching. And then I'm like, all right, I got to find something negative here, so I keep watching, I keep watching. And then I'm like, okay, power. And now this goes hand in hand with the boxing IQ. I'm like power, all right, aside from the stoppage in the six right.
Speaker 2:I'm like, all right, I've never seen Stan Jonas wince like that, like he was leaking. He saw something that when he throws uppercuts to the body right, he's at that peekaboo style or high guard style it's hard to break. So he's peppering him with the jab. The jab was landing. That was his most landed head punch, in my opinion. And then he noticed all right, let me hit him with the uppie right in the solar plex, where the elbows aren't down, because my jabs peppering whoop.
Speaker 2:Once he once he figured that out and that's what knocked him, knocked him down with the power positive, four fucking uppercuts in a row, crazy dude. And then I'm like, okay, boxing IQ with the jab, what I just mentioned. I'm like, okay, entertainment value. He's like our friend Jahai Tucker. He's entertaining without knocking people out. You know what I mean. Like you don't have to always knock out to be entertaining and he was, and he paid for it. Once or twice he got hit but he ate it and bounced right back and was dancing in the ring, dude all around, you can't give him it's a five-star performance If five's the highest you can't.
Speaker 1:It was a five, it was the biggest stage. Yeah, he got that belt, he got that ring magazine belt.
Speaker 2:When you look at how you win matters, and a lot of people get confused of what that means. Just watch this fight. How you beat someone matters Ennis was the favorite. How you beat someone, though, matters. Now everyone's talking. They're putting him in pound-for-pound talks.
Speaker 1:Guy is really, really good. Yeah, he really proved the point. You know what I'm saying. And the big question is yo would you want to see him versus Crawford? So that'd be an overkill, like for as a fan, seeing that talent there's a lot of talent. Um, I would, I would like to just let let him be great, let Crawford be great, don't let.
Speaker 2:I don't want to see them why. I don't want to see what's wrong with you. I don't want to see them fight why what the hell is wrong with you.
Speaker 1:I don't want to see them fight. No more, Bro, at 154?. Just let them be right. Just let them be great man. You know damn well if Crawford Crawford is like 30-something, so go out, he goes out.
Speaker 2:That's a huge money fight.
Speaker 1:So when Crawford beats Canelo, then alright, if Crawford beats Canelo, he's going to beat Canelo. I hope so. I hope so.
Speaker 2:Me too, but that's heavy.
Speaker 1:He just don't have to get hit, don't get hit.
Speaker 2:Talking to my little boxing pundit friends too. Apparently I'm not going to go into details, but apparently Terrence Crawford has this crazy amount of natural high testosterone, like crazy, like crazy. And then I'm like wow, wild, aggressive like, yeah, you're right, and so he's got this just natural, not cheated. His natural testosterone level is fucking you ever got your shit tested? Yeah, my shit isn't like. I thought it would be crazy the way I crank, but it's not Not at all. I was shocked. It's not low, but it's not like.
Speaker 1:I wonder what my shit is. My shit is not that high.
Speaker 2:But, dude, let's talk about it, can't be, let's talk about that. So not testosterone. 154, now right, so you mentioned Crawford, dude, there's some names at 154. So he can get undisputed. Right, he can get undisputed at 147.
Speaker 1:He can get undisputed in two fights. He'd be at 154.
Speaker 2:But the money, the money is at 154.
Speaker 1:All the money is at 154. I think he's more of a legacy.
Speaker 2:Fundora. Crazy fight, that'd be a crazy fight and I think, ennis, I'm backing Ennis. Virgil Ortiz.
Speaker 1:Jr. Virgil Ortiz Jr. Bro, virgil Ortiz Jr, I think he beats Ortiz because Ortiz showed a different type of Ortiz in his last fight. You know what I'm saying with his boxing style, but that's wide open. For boots too, though. That's wide open.
Speaker 2:Ortiz to me is like a better version of Stanyonis.
Speaker 1:Just a little bit better. Yeah, yeah, no, because I'm saying, like his boxing, he can box.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's got a little more IQ and he can box. He showed that. So, dude, Virgil Ortiz Jr versus Boots.
Speaker 1:That's going to be fire Philly versus Texas Fireworks, fireworks Latino.
Speaker 2:Texas.
Speaker 1:They both is not going to be shy. It's not going to be shy punching wise. There's not going to be no pop shot. Ortiz is going to be the one that Ortiz is going to be the one that had to.
Speaker 2:He likes to bite that mouth, which I thought Staneonis did too. So we'll see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We see that Boots is not going to change. He's going to be himself.
Speaker 2:That's one thing I.
Speaker 1:He's going to be himself in every fight. How does Boots get better from here? He's going to be himself in every fight. I didn't even think Boots was going to. I didn't think Boots was going to be this good. I didn't think he was going to be this good in this fight. And now he's showing like yo. He's only fighting against himself at this point.
Speaker 2:Here's another fun fight, though. Here's another fun fight. Who else Tim Zhu. Oh, he plucks, but but money wise bro. Tim zu in australia money wise.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, that's good, but tim's got power still, so, yeah, yeah, he got power and he got like a little um. Here's another fun one in and out and then now type of here's another fun one, keith thurman oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 2:That's not a good fight, but that's fun. That's. That's a fun fight. That's a good one. That's not a good fight, but that's fun. That's a fun fight.
Speaker 1:That's a good little paycheck. Yeah, that's fun, keith Thurman. I think a lot of people would tune in to that one and Keith Thurman will do that.
Speaker 2:He'll go out on the shield like that, right you think Keith would take that.
Speaker 1:I don't know man. Keith just came up with an amazing win. Yeah amazing win. I guess I mean for a bounce back. He's old looking, he's got a ponytail with a hairline.
Speaker 2:The best shit, though the build up would be crazy.
Speaker 1:The build up with him talking. Keith Thurman and his historic type of quotes.
Speaker 2:And then there's the boogeyman at 154. And Bacram Marteliev, he's the boogeyman at 154. And Bakram Murtalia, he's the boogeyman, he's Russian. Nobody mentions him. He's got a belt at 154. They name drop those. Everybody I just named name drops one another. He's a boogeyman.
Speaker 2:He is the boogeyman bro. Nobody mentions this man and he's got a belt and it's like why aren't you mentioning this man? No one wants a piece of him, and this is on the streak of beating up Eastern Europeans. Why not move up and try to beat that Russian? You know what I mean? Google his shit, that's what I mean.
Speaker 1:See, think about that.
Speaker 2:He's got a belt. I don't even know Exactly.
Speaker 1:He's the boogeyman bro. He's a legit boogie man. I gotta see, I gotta look, I gotta see.
Speaker 2:I might have seen him, but I don't know so so now, now is the question like does he stay at 147 and and?
Speaker 1:get undisputed, or does he just?
Speaker 2:go to 154 for these massive fights and get the money not just stay, just stay, stay. Get that that undisputed right they say too, I heard his his power, like at 154 boots, would be better because he's such a big dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah nah, but he should just stay, get that undisputed, get that underneath his belt Just to have it, just to have that underneath his legacy and shit, and then go up All the money. Fights are still going to be there because I mean, I don't know, I didn't see nothing in the works for them, like they don't have nothing crazy going on in 154 right now. We don't have no Tim Zhu got to go fight somebody. Maybe, you know, he might fight for a belt. Pandora still have one. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:They still got to prove themselves, I mean they don't got to prove themselves, but they just well. No, because if Ennis goes up to 154, he's a little guy now. He got to prove himself. In a sense, he's still the money.
Speaker 1:He's the money still. Yeah, I agree, and especially if he gets undisputed and he goes up, decides to go up, he's definitely going to be the money side. Yeah, I like that. I like that for him. I think he just gets undisputed here. You know what I'm saying. He's been here for a minute, though. Right, he's been here for a minute. Who Boots? Yeah, what do you mean At?
Speaker 2:147? Boots has been. Oh yeah, yeah, he's been there forever. That's his weight. So, hey man, sky's the limit now for him. Money-wise, he's going to make a lot of money. He knows how to entertain too. Dude, I forgot about this when he came out. He came out to Undertaker Bells, yeah. And then it like translated into some rap song.
Speaker 1:That's not the first time somebody did that right.
Speaker 2:No, no we of this stuff. But it was cool because it's like dong, dong. And then like I'm like yo, he's dev. If he comes out to undertaker's music, that's cool to me, but he's definitely come out to rap. And then rap came on and I was like, oh yeah, there we go. And he came out with tyrese maxi. Yeah, what was?
Speaker 1:that about philly, bro. He's from philly. I thought that was his family, or something.
Speaker 2:No, I think they just a philly thing. I didn't even know that was him, though I'm like who's this tall, lanky dude? Is he a fighter? What the fuck Nah hell.
Speaker 1:no, I noticed him. He was in the ring at the end and all that. I'm like he taking pictures with the team.
Speaker 2:I'm like yo you about to do celebrity boxing now what about Embiid bro? Why not Embiid Tyrese?
Speaker 1:Tyrese got more pulled in yeah, and beat him on the play basketball yeah. But when he does, he should have never got the MVP.
Speaker 2:Let's not even start.
Speaker 1:This is a boxing podcast yeah, he should have never gotten an MVP.
Speaker 2:All right to the undercard. That was a lot of boots in us. Yeah, boots is about to go. They got him in pound for pound talks. Now I don't think he's pound-for-pound yet. He still needs if he goes up. He got to get. If he goes, to 154 and gets a belt.
Speaker 1:Yeah, put him in the talks.
Speaker 2:But okay, get undisputed. Yeah, me too. I like that he got the lineal ring.
Speaker 1:I think Brian should just get his belt from get too man.
Speaker 2:Chirping, chirping, chirping. And then Boots came and was like we offered him money for a fight. He said no, so like shut up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I just heard today like they've been like sparred each other and Boots was just beating them up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, boots too.
Speaker 1:I heard everybody sparred Boots yeah, everybody. You know Sean Porter sparred him. He's like yo. This guy is different and Sean Porter, he's sparring everybody. He's not even fighting, no more. He's sparring standing owners and all that. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think he said, though I heard him say in some. He was like yeah, listen, I'm not here to just spar everybody. I did this for fun. I'm retired, I'm not going to camps. But whatever the boxers, they love the box. That's why they were pros. Yeah, they love it. Alright, On to the undercard. This is a very Jerron Ennis show.
Speaker 1:I mean that's it, I mean he's me.
Speaker 2:Ray Ford vs Thomas Matisse. Ray Ford pitched a shutout. Every judge had it 100-90. Unanimous decision. He won every round. So, like I said earlier, the crowd was very Philly crowd, which is like New Jersey, basically an extension of New Jersey.
Speaker 1:He's from Jersey, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's from Jersey. Shakur was there. Shakur's cousin fought Moses.
Speaker 1:You've seen that live too. Yeah, I'm going to talk about that next. I'm going to talk about that next.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to talk about that next, though, because I have a funny something I noticed. So Ray Ford went a little viral before the fight talking about our guy Shushu. All the New York heads were pissed, including myself, and I like Ray Ford, yeah, I guy shoo shoo. All the new york heads were pissed, including myself, like, and I like ray ford, yeah, um, this, I'll put it like this everyone around me was team ford. I'd say 75 of the crowd, more 85 of the crowd was team ray ford. I mean, most of the crowd was there for ennis, but they now know who ray ford is, because the build-up so they were there for ford.
Speaker 2:He won every round. I'm not gonna take that from. They were booing him. Everybody was right. The action. They didn't like what they were seeing he was being a shot, yeah, he won. He won every round, but I did at the elite level. Shame on matisse and his team for not exploiting this. I did see like some flaws. Yeah that I know. Shushu has his hands full and I'm not just saying this because I'm biased yeah, you, yeah, okay, he could he could exploit for real. What's what's? We always say, what's a lefty's kryptonite?
Speaker 1:oh, a lefty's christmas. Oh shit, I'm going blank because I'm been drinking lefty's kryptonite.
Speaker 2:Oh uh, lefty, lefty, wait, lefty right uh left hook yep, exactly yeah, I'm going black, I'm more on my toes go watch, go go even kryptonite Lefty, wait, lefty, left, hook. I'm fucking going. I'm more on my toes. Go even watch the highlights. Wait, who was lefty? Ray Ford, he was lefty. So what's a lefty's kryptonite? It was open, but the dude was just throwing straight, so he wasn't throwing it. But the left hook is wide open, and then he would have got Matisse out of there if he stayed on the body and he's a smaller, shorter fighter and he didn't.
Speaker 1:He was just punching gloves, it's crazy the shit that you notice that, because if you're watching the fight, you really only focus on Ray Ford.
Speaker 2:You're not even looking at Matisse.
Speaker 1:You're not even looking at what Matisse is doing. And he was landing. But his straight down the pipe the right hand was landing too. Who Matisse? Yeah, he was. Just he was pop shotting.
Speaker 2:That was not going to work, and he got tired too.
Speaker 1:He just Ford won because of his athleticism and his quickness. He came, ford came out the first round and he stunned him, yeah. And then he set up for the rest of the fight.
Speaker 2:But, dude, when you look at IQ-wise and when you really study the fights and I like Ray Ford, I'm not taking anything away from him there's some openings there, there's. Definitely he needs a little bit of tuning up on the old.
Speaker 1:He's more of a and that's probably why Nick Ball won. He's more of like an offensive Offensive yeah, Just athletic and athletic.
Speaker 2:quick power, it's a.
Speaker 1:Shakur type of style, but just more offense. He's more active than Shakur.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I'm talking about offense.
Speaker 1:He's throwing hella punches and it's athleticism's throwing hella punches, and it's athleticism. And he has pop. He also lifts. I like how he he lifts all his punches. Bro Yo, he got a 2-1-2.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you really don't see that.
Speaker 1:A 1-2-1, 2-1-2, and it comes forward yeah.
Speaker 2:And then he stepses a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, shushu listen. If Shushu, a counterpuncher, is going to, a counterpuncher will Again. Yeah.
Speaker 2:What's a lefty's kryptonite? What's a lefty's kryptonite? Yeah left hook and who has a great left hook, shushu. So I'm here for it.
Speaker 1:Shushu's got his hands full. Now he's chasing belts at the weight class lower. I want to see Shushu versus Nick Ball. Let's build it up. Why is he calling him out while he's in a?
Speaker 2:He was just talking all kinds of crazy shit, which whatever, I'm here for it. But I want to see Shushu. Nick Ball See what Shushu does. I don't know. Ray Ford said he hasn't fought nobody. It's all bull crap. Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:That's my favorite saying I want to see Shushu versus Nick Boll. Let's see what he does and if he beats him decisively, okay, now you move up, shushu. You got your belt. Move up Now. Let's see Ray Ford. Shushu. Now we have some drama, we have buildup. That's what we want. The beef is there, I'm ready for it, and I think Shushu could Listen. It's boxing. Anything can happen. I think there's a lot of openings for Shushu to exploit.
Speaker 1:One of your boys got to pluck your mans. Shushu Nah, oh Nah, shushu Nah, we taking Shushu up. Everybody who Oshaki Foster.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's another thing too I was going to bring up. Yeah, oshaki too, man, he's a little smarter than this Matisse guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, no, no. That would be a different fight, Uh-huh, but I'm saying like he got to get to working with these.
Speaker 2:With.
Speaker 1:Ford or with somebody.
Speaker 2:So Oshaki's with top rank we might see that we might see that I'm team Oshaki with that baby. I think Oshaki style versus him too. He'll exploit that.
Speaker 1:He'll exploit that. I don't know man. You like Oshaki? I don't know Listen man, you got sneaky power too. I'm taking Shushu over the pool, but yeah, maybe Ford. I like Ford though. I like Ford though.
Speaker 2:I like him too. I like him too. He's young too. They're so young bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they like the Olympic style.
Speaker 2:They do their thing man and he trades hard. He's extremely gifted and athletic. Yeah, it's just, in this fight, man Matisse had a lot of openings he didn't exploit, that's all. It's just like he beat him up but he didn go for like no kill, like yeah, or he couldn't. I don't know if he went for the kill, so what? From what I noticed, he was hitting, like going for the kill, but nobody. And he's hitting gloves, matisse, matisse would cover. He's hitting all gloves and like where where's the?
Speaker 2:coaches where he's in that high guard. If you're gonna go for belts, you're at that next tier. You should know.
Speaker 1:Okay, the body is right there yeah, every time, yeah, so he's wild.
Speaker 2:But he was wild, but whatever that's why. And he said after the fight too.
Speaker 1:He said something like yeah, never mind what that they're always running. Oh shaki, yeah, oh shaki's not gonna be sitting there with him he's.
Speaker 2:I think oh shaki gonna outpoint him. And now shaki got power in both hands. Man, yeah, he he's definitely now I love shock, man, shock.
Speaker 1:Come on the show, man damn the show man If he box him. Yeah, it's going to be great.
Speaker 2:I got the poster. You're saying like yeah, Shock, I'm talking to him, Shock, come on the show. I got a poster of Oshaki versus.
Speaker 1:Abraham.
Speaker 2:Nova, come on the show. That would be fun.
Speaker 1:That would be a good fight, man.
Speaker 2:Oshaki's belt chasing. He's staying at 130. I'm at 130. He's belt chasing, just Oshaki.
Speaker 1:Big ass. Cut the hair though.
Speaker 2:Cut the hair though, man. That shit was heavy, that heavy ass hair. Oshaki, you want to stay light on your feet, man? But yeah, you know, and listen, ray Ford's young, he's there. I'm just there's a lot of you know. Boxing is fucking exciting. That's a lie. Anybody who says again, I'm going to say this, every show, every show, episode 61 of the Sparring Boxing Podcast, every fucking show. If you say boxing's dead, you don't watch boxing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you say boxing's dead you don't watch boxing.
Speaker 2:We got people coming up?
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, we got people coming up. Omari Jones, oh man, omari Jones with a KO, yeah, but that was the guy he fought.
Speaker 2:The shorts that guy had on though he had on these. I don't want to say it, but they were like they had to be from Teemu. They were like Nike basketball shorts. You know, nike basketball shorts. They were all the same. Basically they were like red Nike basketball shorts, bro, but then he got them transformed. It was like AI made he Nike basketball shorts, bro, but then he got them transformed and it was like AI made he Nike basketball shorted, ai. I was like yo, make me boxing shorts like this. They were hot, they were awesome. I was giving him props. I was like what the fuck are those, bro? I've never seen those shorts, ever in my life. It had the little Nike symbol on the top. You know, on Nike shorts, above the knee, they got the little Nike symbol. He had it on the top. I was like where are these shorts? Then he got knocked the fuck out. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm crying.
Speaker 2:But that guy Omar, he's an Olympian.
Speaker 1:The dude was like 8'9". But this is what you want to see, man.
Speaker 2:He's just getting started, Not really because one thing very negative about the whole downtime bro was crazy.
Speaker 1:I mean, everybody was getting stoppages.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, I know, but, dude, it was like that's why everyone was so zooted and drunk, but you know whatever.
Speaker 1:That's why I could have probably made it to the fight, but that is yeah.
Speaker 2:But no, the fight Ended early, but Six rounds, so I had some time after, which was cool. So Quinn Moses, so that was the first fight. I ended early, but six rounds, so I had some time after, which was cool. Zaquin Moses, so that was the first fight I saw. I got there. I didn't see the card, the under-under card, but Zaquin Moses, shakur's cousin Shakur, was there. Don't we have a mutual friend that beat him in the amateurs? Huh, didn't Jahai Tucker's brother beat Zaquin in the amateurs for the nationals? I think I don't know if they fought, I think he did. I don't know, but that don't matter, it's amateur, but that's still cool.
Speaker 1:Zaquin. I don't think I remember seeing him in the amateurs. I didn't even know that was his cousin. We were just watching.
Speaker 2:I was watching for.
Speaker 1:Jaden and then he was on there it was like it was a bunch of them in there, it was somebody else. We gotta start somewhere. It's crazy how you see these amateurs over here.
Speaker 2:So Willie's my amateur Boxing guy. I focus so much on these names. I'm bad with names as it is, but Willie's the amateur guy.
Speaker 1:Seeing him in amateurs was like I didn't even know that. Like yeah, I'm like I'll just look at the style, and then they they end up saying something about that so it's a quinn moses, right.
Speaker 2:I want to say something about him awesome dude bro, like he's walking by right. So we were like one row up. He's a kid, I know, mad young bro and he's so good. The sky is literally the limit for him. The guy he fought looked like fossil in his prime. They plucked Aladdin and like you'll fight Aladdin, that dude sucks, but it's his third fight, so I'm not taking anything away from him. He knocked his ass out. You knew it was coming. Yeah, no-transcript. I don't know if it was his aunt, uncle or something. Like yo, come here, come here. Like gave him a hug. Melissa was like oh my God.
Speaker 1:He's are too, because, oh, he, just, he literally was just there. We like, we like, wait, jayden, jayden had been fighting for like maybe three years now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe, maybe, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah he was in that circuit, like when he was going to nationals so that is so.
Speaker 2:So there was another fight I just want to mention on something, and this is like I'm never serious, ever yeah, but this was crazy. Wonder Boy, shakram Giyasov. He's always tough as hell, tough as nails, right, he's from one of the stands, I don't know which where, don't?
Speaker 1:judge me on that. It's not Kazakhstan, but listen forgive me for that.
Speaker 2:I not, it's not, not kazakhstan, but but listen, forgive me for that I don't know, but one one of the the eastern european countries, and bro did his thing, beat this dude right in shape, boxed real well, dude, he had I, he had a two-year-old, his two-year-old yeah unexpectedly passed away oh yeah, shout out to end yo dudes were crying, every girl in the arena was crying. And if you weren't crying?
Speaker 1:they show something like on the screen or something no, he was in the ring talking about it after it was yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:So girls were crying. Yo speaks good english too, which I like that's awesome. Girls were crying, dudes were crying. I'm like what? What the fuck? I almost cried. I'm looking over, I'm like why are you crying? Why are you crying?
Speaker 2:And my wife is like did you fucking hear it, you idiot? And she tells me I'm like, oh shit, I should have been crying, it was fucking bro, I'm never serious, but like yo shout out to him man, that's crazy. Like, come on, insane fighting spirit, man, he's. I'm a big fan of yours for that, you know. No, I don't wish that on any my worst enemies, um, just want my worst enemies to lose a dick or something, but I will never wish that on anyone. Uh, yo, props to him. He did his thing too and he's, he's fucking good, he's good man. Yeah, them eastern europeans, dude, are no joke, bro. Always like, yeah, crazy, but and and dude, now that mentally think, think about that Losing a kid at two. Fucking, I'm about to cry right now. Jesus Christ, alright. Other boxing drama. Um, yeah, that's it. That's it. Great night of fights, though, willie make me a promise.
Speaker 1:We gave a moment a silence, sorry, I'm on an energy drinking tequila.
Speaker 2:Nah, I was seriously. All jokes aside, I'm not. I would never joke about anything in regards to that was wild.
Speaker 1:That was wild.
Speaker 2:I forgot that yo so many props to him for fucking, like fighting, still fighting, I would just quit. He ain't got the stoppage too. That's crazy, yeah. And like still fighting, chasing belts Like yo. Wow. And his fans showed up too, bro, they were fucking, they had the flags Fucking go. Nobody could see because they had the fucking flags. But you know, let it go, let it go. This one dude was on fucking flag. He kind of knew like, ah, they're fans, people were sitting, they just went right in front of him. Passionate man, passion People love their sports, bro. But all in all, man, atlantic City was a great trip. Next time, if there's another fight in Atlantic City, I think there will be, promise me.
Speaker 1:As long as it's not conflicting, conflicting what? Don't break the promise.
Speaker 2:That's it, bro. Willie, you would have had a blast. You could bring the misses bring my misses and then we could do our thing.
Speaker 1:I don't know, what that means.
Speaker 2:Nah, it was a good time. You gamble like me, you drink like me, it's a good time. Nah, I didn't get that drunk there though, too, which I think I kind of liked better. So, going forward, I think I'm not going to drink as much at the fights, yeah, okay. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I get excited. Something about the train ride into the city bro that's my issue. I don't want to drink at all. That's my y'all. It's not the fight, it's the train ride in and the excitement.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you didn't have to use it, you drove there.
Speaker 2:No, I had a hotel. Yeah, I stayed there all weekend. I told you, yeah, left Sunday yeah, but yeah, that's it, man. Geron Ennis, sky's the Limit. We talked about Ray Ford Long episode. There's some other boxing drama going on. I was going to preview the Tiafema Lopez and all them at May 2nd, but we have another week. We'll do that. We got to figure out what we're doing, man. I don't know what are they?
Speaker 1:doing? Yeah, that's the question. What are they doing? This is supposed to be free to the public in New York City.
Speaker 2:I got some people on the inside. Are you talking?
Speaker 1:about. They don't even know.
Speaker 2:yet there's another meeting. We don't know what's happening. I got something to say, though I got something to say. So, talking to my friends, my boxing friends, like boxing writers, hall of Fame writers and stuff, we all went out after the fight. Nobody is happy with this Turkey Al-Ashiq guy man. A lot of people are not happy with him. I don't know, man, I'm not going to say anything, but there's a lot of rumors going around of what he's doing business-wise firing important people like prominent people Listen and then I heard Our name is Ben and we ain't in it because they are going yeah, it sounds like your boy like it.
Speaker 1:Who to I watched him. I watched him on the stream as a fighter. As a fighter, he's around as a fighter he's getting exposure.
Speaker 2:What is what is boxing originally called right, besides pugilism? Prize fighting, right, yeah, so why do people prize? Fight to win a prize? You're fighting to win a prize. The prize is money. They're going to chase the money. You dangle money in front of their face. I have a few pros that won't do my podcast because I won't give them money. You give them money. The money talks, so I get the fighters.
Speaker 2:But business wise, right, like prominent people in the business been there for years, there is like an ethic. You know what I mean. There's ethical things that like, okay, yeah, yeah and he's just from what I heard, I'm not gonna get into details. They are not happy and and you know what? In my personal opinion, he's not pushing the sport. Right, he's putting great fights on, but again, tyson fury and alexander usic no one in america knew about that were casual fans. That fight, that fight beats all the UFC fights that could be made. Right now, again, bivol Beterbiev right, people were texting me what the fuck this fight's on Not promoted, right? He's doing it for him. In a sense, he's acting not, not selfish, but money to him is nothing, yeah, so he is a bit selfish in my opinion. No, that being said, I take it all back if you give us a show yeah, it is like.
Speaker 1:It is like, oh, he's doing for his entertainment and his love for boxing like a casual boxing fan that has money. He loved boxing. He want to see the fights that he want to do with his people yeah, yeah, for his people.
Speaker 2:I mean, listen, if you have the money to do that, god bless you.
Speaker 1:Whatever, that's just my take on that Real fans is going to follow Casuals is going to see their way out. Yep, boxing has still been great, so it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 2:It's fucking annoying Because I want to go to a bar right, but at least we get Whatchamacallit in Vegas. The Monster, yeah, the.
Speaker 1:Monster.
Speaker 2:We'll talk about that next week, you think right?
Speaker 1:When is that?
Speaker 2:The whole May shit.
Speaker 1:Is it a May shit?
Speaker 2:I think, unless it's next week, you wanna go Vegas, damn Is it a May shit, I think, unless it's next week. You want to go Vegas? Damn, is it next week. I know he's going to win, so I don't really look into it Like I know how he's going to win too. He did say I'm going for the knockout, which he's never said, which means we should bet the over.
Speaker 1:What he said. He's going to bet the over what you know.
Speaker 2:He said he gonna bet, though he's gonna bet the over, because he said he's going for the knockout. Yeah, it's. It's, it's the fourth may 4th. Yeah, may 4th, so that may yo next week. Next week we got a pack show. Let's get into the boxing. Drama though. Drama, there's drama, oh yeah, oh. Did you hear about the whole Benavidez, bivel, beterbiev shit going on with the WBC? Nah, dumbass, I like that, you're honest. I had another co-host, I won't name him. He was like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:That you asked him for the interview yeah. A made-up answer I take, take that back.
Speaker 2:I didn't mean dumbass, I just meant like um so boxing drama ready. There's always boxing drama we had. I'm a little conflicted by it, but the wbc, mauricio solomon mandated right, made a mandatory Bivel versus Benavidez. Bivel said screw you, dropped his WBC belt and is now having the rematch with Beterbiev and not fighting Benavidez. So I want your opinion, since you're just hearing about this right, is he ducking Benavidez or not? What do you think? For the trilogy Nah nah, so he's not ducking Benavidez. Nah, nah, so I agree.
Speaker 1:I think this is the right move. He has to do what he has to do. It's only right to give the three-peat. It's only right. It's only right he shouldn't even want to help. But it's only right, yeah, you shouldn't even want out, but it's only right for the three.
Speaker 2:Yeah is and I'm taking it a step further like we forget that when the ukraine stuff kicked off, right, ukraine, russia stuff, mauricio solomon and wbc came out and they were like yo, we're not giving any russians the belt. No russians could have the belt, which is like the most racist thing in boxing I've ever seen. Who said that more? The wbc and mauricio solomon later on, fucking bivel and everyone fucking got the belt or whatever. But so bivel. To me this is kind of like bivel's like fuck you, wbc, uh-huh bivel's like fuck you, I'll drop your belt and still go there and get that money. So I, I kind of get it and that you can are going to be like he's ducking Benavidez. You can't say he's fighting Betterbiev and ducking Benavidez. Will I say that you can make an argument? Sure, but if he fights someone besides Betterbiev, yes.
Speaker 1:It was crazy talks about he was about to take a year or he was really about to wait a year off. So now he was really about to wait and some shit Now.
Speaker 2:Benavidez is the WBC champion in that weight class, another email champion and nothing against Benavidez. Benavidez wants to fight for his belts. He knows that. So that's where we are. He's been elevated.
Speaker 1:So David is a belt holder.
Speaker 2:So the next fight with Benavidez and Beterbiev no, I'm sorry, with Beterbiev and Bivel is going to be for the three belts.
Speaker 1:It's not undisputed, not undisputed. So yeah, no, that's the right move. I think that's an honorable move. I think that's the right move.
Speaker 2:I think it's deeper, though. I think he's like fuck these, like fuck these.
Speaker 1:I think it's like you said it could be another agenda. It could have been like yo fuck y'all, but I think this is the right move though. Yeah, nah, this is definitely the right move. I think, too. I think too, In time, the three-peat had to happen After the three-peat, but like when they was talking. So I see this is going to be. This is why he's doing that. I appreciate it I appreciate this.
Speaker 2:I mean, I hope they market this fight the right way though. Bring it to the States, Primetime States. Bring it to the States. Yes, Las Vegas. Bring this one to the States. Las Vegas, New York City or another big city, bring the trilogy to the. States. I'll even take Cali, bring it to the States. Bring it to the States and just market it right. Or England, shit, england's huge Fucking. Put it in England.
Speaker 1:Not just the States. Bring it to England. What's that dome?
Speaker 2:The O2 Center? Nah, oh shit, what'd I click? We're still recording. Oh shit, what'd I click? We're still recording. Oh, wembley, yeah, bring in a Wembley, yeah, but no, they only bring. Jarrell Miller has a fight coming up. Can we do UK people? Yeah, because that sells too I want. My dream is to go to a fight in UK, but I'll get beat up for sure.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 2:Our boy, jarrell Miller, is fighting again. I think it was, what was it? Fabio Wardley, another that's going to be in England, apparently, but there's some drama with that too. Jarrell Miller slapped him and the English Board of Boxing, or whatever, came out and was like hey, if you do another antic like that, you will be, we will hold your funds. Blah, blah, blah, blah. You know what I?
Speaker 1:don't want to go uk, no more, nah, but they don't have no freedom of speech or nothing like. So it's so bad over there in in their defense, right?
Speaker 2:jorrell miller screwed them out of a lot of money before with anthony joshua. I don't care about so, but anthony's think about that UK is becoming a shithole.
Speaker 1:We're not getting political Willie, I'm just saying oh, I think that's it.
Speaker 2:man, you got oh quick. Shout out to the little amateur stars.
Speaker 1:We had Ringmasters this weekend, oh yeah, shout out to Lois, the Harveys, the Harveys, yo Jones, harvey, whatever Yo shout out to my boys.
Speaker 2:They are doing big things, lois and Jaden Two cousins just went crazy.
Speaker 1:I think Nico won too.
Speaker 2:I think Maybe who.
Speaker 1:Nico, not Nico. What's his name? The Algerian, oh, algerian, algerian, yeah, yeah yeah, Algieri, Yo Long Island Boxing baby. Yeah, jaden fought Gio again. Shout out to Gio and his father they just keep on pushing.
Speaker 2:Yo, jaden and Gio. I'm going to get amateur real quick and our listeners probably have no idea what we're talking about. But Jaden and Gio, right, like these two amateurs fight all the time. Yeah, jayden's been getting the better of it, whatever, but when they go pro and they hit that grown man, I I want to see them fight again.
Speaker 1:This is like one of those build-ups this is like yeah, like I want to see the problem.
Speaker 2:This is like one of those there, like lately I'm you know jayden been doing maybe like a tank roach or like a ryan uh haney haney like, yeah, I want to see when they go pro this is these dudes fight.
Speaker 1:I think this is like a Ryan Haney Haney. Like, yeah, I want to see when they go pro this is these dudes fight this is like a, like a buildup.
Speaker 2:They keep just in that weight class, just keep beating everybody and meeting again, meeting again. And it's cool to see man, it's cool to see Cool people too, man, both of them, both of them. I didn't do anything. So, yeah, props to that. New York boxing is coming, yeah.
Speaker 1:New York got a lot, but Long Island, specifically bro Long Island.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like it's crazy Long.
Speaker 1:Island boxing is wild.
Speaker 2:Like in regards to amateur boxing, it's a pretty small market, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a whole bunch of them, man. I love what the Metro doing for them and USA Boxing. They all doing that man, they doing their thing over there.
Speaker 2:That's about it. I don't think I got anything. We talked a lot Boots, boots, boots, boots, boots' boots are made for walking. Next week we will come back. Next week we'll preview. We got a big show of previews. Big show of previews.
Speaker 1:I'm trying not to do nothing for the next few weeks.
Speaker 2:Times Square. No, we got to do something for the Times Square card, so get your drinking pants ready. Oh my God, something with Times Square.
Speaker 1:How many weeks we got. Two or three, I hope it's three. Well, just come here Sunday to record. Oh yeah, well, yeah, duh, I'm just saying I'm talking about going out.
Speaker 2:I mean going out, yeah, no, we don't got to go out, we don't go out.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about period in my life. I'm not trying to do that.
Speaker 2:Oh, Willie, we're going to boxing matches.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about for the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, just know, may 2nd, I took off. Already it's a Friday.
Speaker 1:They took off. I'm crying.
Speaker 2:Tiafema Lopez Is coming back, we gotta get some tickets Yo we need to get in there. I don't know Yo, I think we should be like the Ninja Turtles, bro, and just come up Through the fucking Like the sewers, there's tunnels.
Speaker 1:Hey, use your pool. A pool, you know, maybe.
Speaker 2:Nah, well, if we don't get in, let's go to a bar or something around there and just mingle. Fuck it. Jimmy's Corner? Nah, because they don't got the TV. Jimmy's Corner is the best bar in New York City, but they don't have TV.
Speaker 1:They don't have TV. Nah, it's not like that, 19 fucking 52.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the prices are too, so it's good, I know.
Speaker 1:The best bar in.
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