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KEYSHAWN DAVIS SHINES AT MSG & CELEBRITY FIGHT NIGHT FRENZIES AT THE MECCA OF BOXING!
What happens when you mix the electrifying energy of Madison Square Garden with the rising talent of Keyshawn Davis? You get an unforgettable night of boxing action and fan frenzy. Join us as we recount our ringside adventure, where the spotlight shone brightly on Keyshawn, backed by his passionate Virginia fan base. We not only share our excitement for his future in the ring but also tease big matchups on the horizon, including a unrelated highly anticipated rematch in Saudi Arabia that promises to shake up the boxing world, that you may have heard of.
Could a showdown between Gervonta Davis be on the cards? We ponder this tantalizing prospect alongside the intriguing possibility of Vasyl Lomachenko facing off with Keyshawn Davis. Both fighters share the Top Rank banner, creating a narrative ripe for a compelling clash. Our conversation explores the storytelling power of boxing promotions, with Keyshawn's impressive ascent hinting at a future battle royale with Lomachenko. We also celebrate the magic of unexpected celebrity encounters, from Bruce Carrington's family warmth to a laugh-out-loud moment with Terence Crawford.
It's time for the main event. It's the Sparring.
Speaker 2:Podcast Yo welcome to the Sparring Boxing Podcast. Puma and Willie are sober.
Speaker 1:Yo, what a fucking weekend. Oh, what a Friday. Yo a Friday at that. Yo can y'all stop doing fights on Friday, though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was a little awkward. You were sleepy, I was good to go, I was ready, but we have a lot to talk about. I'm a little out of it. Still, I'm drinking again, trying to get some pep back in my step. I drank enough Heinekens this Friday. That would kill a small animal In real life.
Speaker 1:Yo, you was wildin'.
Speaker 2:You was wildin' Catch me ringside. I'm kind of famous. If you didn't see me on ESPN, I had a little heart hat on.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Ah, let's preview what we're going to talk about. So, keyshawn Davis and the new if you haven't heard, you heard already. And the new Willie and I were there on the floor for Valentine's Day, my date. Yeah, man. Was your girl mad.
Speaker 1:She had no choice, she couldn't be mad if she wanted to.
Speaker 2:So my girl tried to spite me and go out right.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, she was in the city as well. You got to get it.
Speaker 2:And guess what?
Speaker 1:She lost her wallet, karma is a mother effer, you better get a girl with some little kids. They'll go out as much.
Speaker 2:Eating those little heart candies. You're right, but no, no, it was all good. I told her ahead of time, if she cared, that I'm going to this fight because I was going and we were there. Shout out to that card, shout out to ESPN and Top Rank, yo Top.
Speaker 1:Rank. Love us man. Hey, top Rank, I love y'all, sir. They always love Yo they. Let us walk around like we kings around there.
Speaker 2:Oh no, shh, shh, shh, they might stop, oh shit.
Speaker 1:And they let him be on TV every time. I feel like Every time he's on TV.
Speaker 2:Man, that shit was fun, I gotta be the most famous guy with no followers.
Speaker 1:Yo Top Ring Shout out to Top Ring man Again Nah they put together a fun show.
Speaker 2:Keyshawn Davis did his thing. He put together a show. We'll talk about that. We're going to review the entire card, almost the entire card, and we actually have a lot to talk about boxing-wise on this show, because next weekend again, we have the best card in boxing history in Saudi, with a rematch of Artur Beterbiev or Beterbiev, whatever you want to call him.
Speaker 1:We're getting that shit so fast. I know I feel like that shit was just around yesterday.
Speaker 2:And we'll talk about, when that fight comes, why I'm heavily favoring a certain somebody. But that entire card, from top to bottom, is must-see TV and I got to give my guy, lorenzo medina, a shout out. I'm coming friday. I'm sorry, I'm coming to florida friday, yes, but your fight is on saturday and I'm gonna be watching that show after the the zone. Uh, whatever, that card, no, that's good for you, because that's good, that sody's gonna be earlier lorenzo medina, man up and coming heavyweight, he's kind of like high risk, low reward right now.
Speaker 2:and he's only 20 years old. 20 years old.
Speaker 1:And he is just talking that shit.
Speaker 2:banging Heavyweight division is wide open still and I wish him the best and he'll be blessed with me ringside.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, I can't wait to hear you. I don't know what to do because I'm comfortable in New York. I don't know about Florida though.
Speaker 1:Oh no, you better keep that same energy, man, you got to keep that same energy. I want to see you live.
Speaker 2:I will be with my lady. I will be with my lady, so I'll be a little more tame sort of I hope they love us man.
Speaker 1:Shout out to all the followers.
Speaker 2:Shout out to new followers that followed us from friday. Yo, oh, my god, shout out to everybody bro. Uh, let's get into. You want to talk the the top rank card? We went to friday first with the the new. Or you want to talk about? Uh, barbosa? He, he got a little mandatory.
Speaker 1:I think we should start with Key and all of them. Yeah, yeah, just get right on that, yeah.
Speaker 2:Let's do it. You want to go into Keyshawn first. Keyshawn, all right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Key.
Speaker 2:We'll start from the top and work our way down to the undercard.
Speaker 1:Besides Puma over there harassing his family members.
Speaker 2:I was not harassing his family.
Speaker 1:Yo, we had a great time over there watching and the new.
Speaker 2:I got to give the Virginia folk a round of applause, man. They all showed up, they showed up and they are a passionate fan base man, because at one point I was rooting for Keyshawn the whole fight. I was rooting for Keyshawn and I said something like oh man, baranchik's tough, though Baranchik's tough, you know this could go over, bro. They turned around. Whose team you on, motherfucker?
Speaker 1:My boy, my boy Ski Vaz is wild. Ski Vaz is wild.
Speaker 2:With the shysty on and I'm just looking at him like I'm rooting for him. I don't know what do I do.
Speaker 1:You with them or you with us? Yeah, inside Puma.
Speaker 2:That's passion. Of course I'm with Keyshawn, that's passion. Yo, the whole family, the whole family was there.
Speaker 1:Oh, we was right near baby Keyshawn too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we saw baby Keyshawn and everything.
Speaker 2:Baby Davis, he got a little name. But yeah, it was cool, man, it was cool. It was good to see that show out at MSG for an American fighter. You know what we did do during that fight though USA. We started it again. We 2-0 on the USA chance. We 2-0 on the USA chance.
Speaker 1:Yo, we had them at USA. Usa, we started it. Man, I ain't never seen black people scream out USA like that. That's the energy we bring.
Speaker 2:You want us on your side. That's all I'm saying. That shit was fire, we had the whole. We had the whole session, the whole session Talking about USA.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the whole arena. And Key showed that. Key heard it. He was like Yo, I heard them say USA.
Speaker 2:He said that, and then Norfolk.
Speaker 1:Nah, he said the Norfolk, though too, he said that too, but he definitely heard us say USA.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got the people going that's what we do, yeah, for, for good or bad, I get the people going yeah, yeah, you had people going left and right Nah but it was good. It was good. It's all love always. We all talk our shit as the drinks keep flowing and just let the record state I was rooting for Keyshawn.
Speaker 1:Oh, of course, but that's how passionate they were.
Speaker 2:I gave him his flowers. I'm saying something I'm like oh, but you know, Baranchik, he could take a hit. That's all he can do. And fucking sure enough, I got a bunch of Virginians what the fuck, motherfucker. And I'm just like, can we watch the fight please? I probably didn't say that, but hey, this is boxing this is top.
Speaker 1:Bob Arum was there too. I didn't even see him. He's got like a secret tunnel, bro Yo, where the fuck they even come from.
Speaker 2:I didn't even spot him. But let's talk about the fight itself. Man, keyshawn did his thing. It's not about, like we knew Keyshawn was going to win, right? Yeah, it was a minus, I think, 700 favorite, which when it's a minus 700 favorite, it's going to take a lot for an upset. Yeah, this fight to me was more about how he wins. And I bet seven through nine, knockout stoppage, right? Yeah, so I was for Keyshawn and I just thought Baranchik was going to hang on and do what he can. You know, just being so tough. But damn, fourth round.
Speaker 1:Yo third round. I was like yo, chill out, key, yeah, chill out. I was praying. I'm like bro, I need eighth round, fourth round, he did his thing and that's what you want to see.
Speaker 2:He did it in the last fight with the stoppage, and he's showing growth, growth, growth. But I will say this Maybe it's too much growth, and I'm talking size-wise, because he's big. Yeah, he is a big 135.
Speaker 1:What I posted earlier I said I see him moving up and leaving this belt just down there Because he don't want to fight Shakur. So I see him moving up to 140 right now.
Speaker 2:So let me talk about that real quick. Everybody was saying they didn't say Shakur's name. After the fight, a lot of people were mentioning Gervonta Davis. How that's the fight to make. That's the fight to make. But now the Saudis control all the top promotions, except for PBC. Javante is still with PBC and he's not leaving anytime soon. And, that being said, there's one name they're leaving out. There's a name they're leaving out who also has a belt Loma, loma Chanko. And if anything could entice Loma to come out of wherever he is I don't know if he's injured or what Whatever he's doing, he's still got a belt, they're still letting him hold it. If anything could entice him to come back and avenge his Ukrainian buddy's loss, that's him and he's with top rank. That's a fight to make. That's a fight to make. And I'll say this, like we said about all of Virginia showing up for Keyshawn the Ukrainians. I've been there for one of his fights at the Hulu Theater. Yeah, bro, it's a different country in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So we're going to need all those Virginians to come on back.
Speaker 1:And this guy over there harassing everybody, that USA chain ain't going to work. Look, trip home Ukrainians. I'm like yo, this guy pooping is crazy Yo but nobody, we didn't get any. We didn't get any. You're the one that, just like you like say it and then you like play fool with them. I don't know, it's just like people.
Speaker 2:It's fun.
Speaker 1:It's fun, it's fun. They was really fun. I thought you was about to piss somebody off, but everybody was so nice.
Speaker 2:One dude though, bro, I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it. One dude after that. I was like yo, can you take a picture or no? Sergey was there. I think I'll take it with your phone. No, no, I asked a Ukrainian to my case he was like oh, $5.
Speaker 2:And I was like ha ha, ha, shut up. He didn't take the picture. I was looking for it because I like him, man. He's another tough Ukrainian Again. Let's stick with Keyshawn. Wait what? You didn't take the picture. No, it's not on my phone, I'm looking for it.
Speaker 2:It's all good, though, man Yo Keyshawn. Man, he did his thing. But again, I want to reiterate this If a performance like that, beating a tough opponent like that and I'm not talking skill-wise, just pure toughness, getting him out of there in the fourth round the way he did, in the fashion Keyshawn did, that might light a little fire in Lomachenko's ass and that might get the Lomachenko-Kishon fight to happen.
Speaker 1:You might be right, but it's crazy how he was the first round. He was baiting him Like there was no action. He was just baiting him. He was letting him come forward, letting him get comfortable. I was like, yeah, he set him up for something. And that's exactly what he did. He came in there, yeah, he set him up for something and that's exactly what he did. He came in there and he set him up. He's mature he's calm. I thought the Ukrainian was going to move.
Speaker 2:I knew when I previewed this fight he got great movement. I thought he was going to move around Keyshawn in there when they got in the ring. I don't know what his weight was in there he looked like a 165-pounder. He's big and ripped, but I will say Lomachenko Eddie Cruz don't win no parts. Lomachenko versus him is a high-money fight.
Speaker 1:That's a lot of money, he could unify.
Speaker 2:I think he's going to unify versus Loma and then get out of here and Loma win or lose.
Speaker 1:he's a Hall of Famer retire whatever, I think he's going to just move up because he already knows he got Shakur's there. Shakur's going to probably try to run it up.
Speaker 2:I don't know man.
Speaker 1:Top rank is Keyshawn. Loma are still with Tugger. So who's going to move up if they not fight? They don't want to fight each other. Who Keyshawn Well after Loma do not want to fight that boy.
Speaker 2:I don't think. But now, that's what I'm saying. Now he's got to avenge his Ukrainian brother. You got a narrative there, Loma don't care about that guy.
Speaker 1:You got a narrative there.
Speaker 2:You got a narrative, though, man, I never seen them together. Nah, but Ukrainian is such a tight-knit community like that. Nah, Loma don't give a, I'm going to give him a fucking bad. Come on, man, I'm telling you Watch. I guarantee this is exactly. I don't see it when you're looking at money-wise and all top rank cares about is the money.
Speaker 1:What's bringing it on? I feel like they just gave Danny that fucking belt at this point, you know what?
Speaker 2:No, he beat fucking Navarrete or whatever. Yeah, he did. Yes, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:I bet it. Remember I caught that. But that was his first defense too, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, against Keyshawn.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's fucked up. It's like they gave him the belt for him not to hold the belt. But no, like listen. I told my boy he was hitting me up, like how he even held the belt. He didn't hold it, he just fucking. This is his first.
Speaker 2:Now they have a story. Boxing is all about the story and the buildup. Right Top Rank has a story now.
Speaker 1:Top Rank. Top Rank has a story now.
Speaker 2:And I'm telling you, dude, Loma isn't a nobody. You know what I?
Speaker 1:mean.
Speaker 2:Loma isn't a nobody.
Speaker 1:I really think Keyshawn is going to move up, bro. That boy is huge. Yeah, he's big man, but I'm saying he'll drop's a huge money.
Speaker 2:Fight dude.
Speaker 1:For both of them. He is so fucking good bro.
Speaker 2:And I hope that fight could fill the main room.
Speaker 1:Imagine his power at 140. Loma Kishon fills the main room.
Speaker 2:Oh no, they know that it's going to fill the main room.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, lomachenko is a Ukrainian yeah.
Speaker 1:Because he got New York fans. He, he got New York fans, he got Virginia fans.
Speaker 2:Lomachenko is a Ukrainian like freaking.
Speaker 1:Ukraine showed out bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was a lot of them, but not like a Loma At a Loma fight dude. It's crazy. I look around I'm like where am I? It's crazy at.
Speaker 2:Loma fights you went. I went to a few. He like runs the garden Like it's crazy. Oh man, they were outside in the soccer chance one fight and I'm like, where am I? This is awesome. It was cool as a fan of boxing to see that You're sitting on the floor too. Yeah, always. No, no, no, no, the Loma fight. I wasn't, that was before. I was a somebody. Nah, I'm just kidding. I was sitting in like a but yo.
Speaker 2:The Hulu Theater. Every seat is good For all the casual boxing fans. I don't care what the fight is or any combat sports fight. Hulu Theater I don't even think they call it the Hulu Theater anymore. It changed names or something. The theater attached to MSG any seat in the house is awesome. Everybody goes to the same bar in MSG. You're going to bump into famous people. It's awesome. Everybody goes to the same bar in MSG. You're going to bump into famous people. It is awesome. It is actually a great experience and I like it better than main room fights which is why I'm probably not going to the Barclays-Dravanda fight, but we'll see.
Speaker 2:I'm going to make a last-minute decision, but we will see. It's the last minute.
Speaker 1:It's the Pauly hit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got to hit some bets. I did hit a bet on this night, though, and I forgot. I put a bet in on the train. That was a good bet. Chopping it up with.
Speaker 1:Willie, I just don't understand.
Speaker 2:I was talking, you didn't have TKO for Mason.
Speaker 1:I know you just had the money.
Speaker 2:What was that about? But yo hey, all right, let's Keishon the businessman Davis props to him shout out to the fam shout out to all of Virginia Troy Isley oh yeah, troy.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Troy, I'm the one that recognized him. Ain't you a fighter?
Speaker 2:let's talk about that real quick, before we get into it. Let's talk about our experience. We previewed Keishon. Let's talk about that real quick before we get. Before we get into, let's talk about our experience. We we previewed key or, I'm sorry, reviewed kishan.
Speaker 1:Let's let's talk about our night it wasn't what you want to start with, because that night was crazy. So when we first got there, right, you know who's there, shushu. Shout out to shushu and his family, bruce carrington.
Speaker 2:Oh man, is the carrington family. They are the coolest people, I think. Coolest bro, because they know you know we've interviewed him and stuff, but they know I'm just a fan whatever fanboy, I'm running around with this stupid heart on my head. That got a lot of attention, which is what I wanted, and you know he just came right up to me, dat me yo what the fuck he's like. I'm like yo. Come back anytime, man Fucking. Just pure, pure goodness Like pure goodness.
Speaker 1:And Shushu is the same way Like yo, bro. He's just like embracing us. Crazy Like yo, my guys.
Speaker 2:Yo.
Speaker 1:I'm like, yeah, I'm like yo, it was good you had the Cujo. He had the Cujo in New York. He's just chilling, bro, but he's there. You know who didn't have the kuja? His friend. He was there early watching prelims. I'm like yo, he's a fan of boxing, fan of whoever he working with, who was ever in his camp. He's there watching them all. Bro, yo Shushu was so humble and his dad, the whole family, the whole family, trainer Shushu there with his wife, he dad, all of them, the whole family, the whole family trainer, everybody Shushu there with his wife.
Speaker 2:He did it right, though. He came with his wife. I don't know if they're married yet. Are they married? I don't know. I don't know. Whatever, he came with his long-term lover, who don't look like they're breaking up anytime soon.
Speaker 1:No-transcript imagine like she was just sitting there and he's getting all this hey, can I get a picture? Can I get a picture, hey? And who was next to them and oh my god, yeah, they had amanda. Amanda serrano man amanda serrano was next to him, the puerto rican great bro.
Speaker 2:Um, she took a picture with us with my stupid hat on.
Speaker 1:Yes, she is, she's humble, she's she's everything, bro. She was the she's beautiful in person, like way like and I was like, I'm like starstruck. I'm like yo. She's just glowing. This is like yo. Puerto Rico, I love Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico's like my second family.
Speaker 2:Her sister was there with her New York State Hall of Famer. Now, yes, yes, yes, new York State Hall of Famer. Good for her.
Speaker 1:And you showed her mad love. And I'm like yo Puma made sure that he showed her love.
Speaker 2:Of course, man, because I know this boxing shit is tough, but a lot of people don't know that you gotta know to know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why I say Puma know his shit. If y'all don't know, puma know his shit about boxing, contrary to how I act on the sidelines. Yeah, except for harassing people.
Speaker 2:I don't harass people.
Speaker 1:Yes, you do no, but it's all love man.
Speaker 2:One dude was like know your audience. I was like I am the audience.
Speaker 1:Yo, this guy is crazy. Nah it was fun, though that was so fucking fun. It's always fun. Have you ever I was pissed, though I was pissed why you saw Roy Jones and I didn't even get, was in the corner.
Speaker 2:I didn't really preview these fights like I should have because it was on a Friday. I just was working. Yeah, I'm like damn, I'm broke.
Speaker 1:I was just happy to get there, yeah. Yeah, I know you were sleepy as hell. Yeah, I popped the energy drink. That shit was done by like five.
Speaker 2:Yeah, gone.
Speaker 1:No energy.
Speaker 2:Gone. I. I took all the energy. But yeah, roy Jones, I saw him walking out with gloves on. I'm like yo. Is he in the corner?
Speaker 1:He's in the corner. Oh my God, who did that?
Speaker 2:And I did harass him. I did harass him. I like went over. Oh, and this is right before somebody else we met and we'll talk about that and then we'll get back into the fight. Who else? We met him. So I walk over to the ring. I see Roy.
Speaker 1:Jones, how the fuck did you get a Roy?
Speaker 2:Jones picture. I see Roy Jones, bro, I did harass him. I'm like Roy, roy, come over here, roy, get the fuck. He's like yeah, yeah, yeah, one minute, no, no, no, come on, come on, real quick, real quick. I'm the only one. I'm like yo, I get the picture. I'm like, oh nice. Oh, that's when it happened. Yeah, I look over and I see Willie dancing and I hear Terrence Crawford. He goes yo this motherfucker trying to have a dance off with you he was next to somebody I didn't recognize who he was with.
Speaker 2:And then all of a sudden, willie Terrence Crawford and this dude who's famous somewhere having a dance-off. Bro, he was way on Keisha and them people, yeah, but no, the dude he was talking about the dreads. Yeah, yeah, yeah I don't know who he was. He was someone important. They were having a dance-off.
Speaker 1:They probably everywhere yeah.
Speaker 2:They were having a dance-off and Willie had a dance-off with Terrence Crawford bro. Nah, terrence Crawford bro. Nah, I don't know Yo, you had to dance off Terrence was a dancer.
Speaker 1:He was dancing, yeah, and then he came back.
Speaker 2:He came back and when I watched him sit down I didn't get the video of him dancing. That's why I tried, oh shit. But I got the tail end of it and he came back and he was like, oh my God, which I didn't know, that's called Anthony Towns. Every time he gets a rebound and goes crazy in the paint he goes.
Speaker 1:Oh my god that shit was funny, man, he's a bum.
Speaker 2:I'm fucking Towns, I don't know this is a boxing podcast. Man shut up.
Speaker 1:I don't know why you bring him up then, cause he said oh my god, whatever yo peep the Instagram, peep the Instagram.
Speaker 2:I posted that.
Speaker 1:Yo, that was so cool. I didn't even know, bro, I was just dancing in my animal man you hear me Like get him, Willie, Get him.
Speaker 2:I just woke up for that one time and I got to say Terrence Crawford is very reserved. He's a very reserved dude. Please give him his flowers. Yeah, yeah, I am, I man. This guy don't want to talk to nobody, you can just tell, right. But then, as the night went on and he got more comfortable, he was cool as shit Me and Willie got him laughing. So shout out to him man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I'm like we had no, I didn't have his man's. His man's fossil man was just saying he's a dick, and then all you hear is Nick say he's a dick. I'm like, no, nah, he's just one of those people you have to.
Speaker 2:I never said he's a dick. I said, like Fossil says, he was a dick to him as a fan. Yeah, but this was my first time you know me. I only speak off experience. This is my first time ever meeting him.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I'm was early, he was you could agitated like I just got there. Yeah, come on, leave me alone.
Speaker 2:He was there early, but then, as he warmed up man, he was cool with the fan yo, he was chilling, that's just his personality and he don't drink nothing, so it's like yo.
Speaker 1:He was just like chilling like the rest of us. Yeah, we got him laughing yeah, now you, yeah, you caught him with a good one.
Speaker 2:I forgot what the fuck you said I remember it was about it- was about uh, I'm half irish. Yeah, it was the irish, it was the counts and some shit it was melanie versus the irish dude, and I'm like I'm half irish too, but I'm rooting for you. And then someone says something to me like why are you rooting for him? And I go, because i'm'm half Irish, where it counts. He turned around, he started laughing.
Speaker 1:He started laughing yeah, Yo, bud is definitely just chill bro, yeah, he is. He's reserved. That's cool.
Speaker 2:He's chill as hell bro.
Speaker 1:Imagine being that great and you just be like he's chilling.
Speaker 2:I guess. Though, when I first talked to him, I was like damn man, I'm a big Errol Spence fan. You broke first time. I was like damn man, I'm a big errol spence fan.
Speaker 1:You broke my heart. He didn't say nothing. He definitely blew that off. I know he just looked at me like I was like okay, man, talk to you later. That's right, that's when you first.
Speaker 2:He's like I don't think he likes me, I'm like yo, I'm like relax a little bit, bro, I was like yo, I was telling him, like yo, he's like. He didn't like. He really broke my heart. He beat the shit out of me.
Speaker 1:I ain't going to lie you one of those people. You got to grow on people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because like yo damn, this guy and I was in a stupid heart hat you fucking haggling. You just be wowing.
Speaker 2:But have I ever changed?
Speaker 1:No, that's why I love you. You just like person every time. But that shit don't take up with everybody.
Speaker 2:I told you that before I know. I know, but not in the boxing realm. Yo, that shit was so cool bro.
Speaker 1:That shit was so cool Epic, epic night Always.
Speaker 2:Epic fucking night Always what else happened.
Speaker 1:Something else happened Probably. We talked about everything. I think, yeah, what else we got? Probably.
Speaker 2:We talked about everything. I think yeah, what else we got?
Speaker 1:Anything else crazy.
Speaker 2:I am getting like. Oh, Clarissa, oh shit Shout out to Clarissa man.
Speaker 1:I was fucking with her. I was fucking with her. She's like what's?
Speaker 2:my name. She said say my name.
Speaker 1:Say my name. Say my name. I said Clarissa. She said she pushed at me. I'm just playing, I'm just playing Cool, cool people.
Speaker 2:Man, when you meet these fighters personally, like again, I've said it a million times Like the media portrays our mind in a way as fans that we got to get over right. Like we got to get over that, because when you meet people personally and this goes for any form of media everybody, every person in the media, no matter what side you're on, whatever when you meet these people in person and they're comfortable with you and you talk to them, like you got to judge people from your own experiences don't judge people from the media.
Speaker 2:Don't judge people from our opinions. That's what basically I was saying yeah, don't judge people from anybody's opinions, because it's crazy. We meet so many cool people at these fights, man. But all right, let's get back into the fights. People don't want to hear about us gloating about our great papoose, we met papoose all that shit. They serious papoose and clarissa and it's crazy, I do.
Speaker 1:They got a private jet because they was just in new york. They went to hawaii. I seen a person.
Speaker 2:I saw that too. Like did they repost that? Like I'm still what I'm still hung over in this places. I'm still hung over what I'm still hung over. Are they in this place? I'm still hung over shitting bricks over there on the beach. I'm like where the fuck are they at?
Speaker 1:They're in Hawaii. I'm like what the hell Shout out to Pat Pooh's though. Man, he's a humble guy man.
Speaker 2:He's too, you know. But I'm not gonna lie like the chick with the most like crowd around with amanda serrano.
Speaker 1:Amanda is a oh we in new york city with a bunch of puerto ricans bro the singer I met. Oh yeah, you did he. Uh, he don't know why, so he he. I didn't know either I didn't know, hey, listen listen, I grew up. I grew up with like spanish people all my life, so I had I love Wishing in Yondel Hoy es Nuchera Sexo. That's my song, so I'm like we sitting here, we just walking past and everybody's taking pictures with this guy. It was Wishing from Wishing in.
Speaker 1:Yondel Hoy es Nuchera Sexo. If I would have knew that was him, I would have started singing the song. He would have been like with this black guy.
Speaker 2:I know this song well, I know the whole song, bro. I was like yo, so you did not know.
Speaker 1:I told him, bro, I told him, I said I say yo, I say yo, soy token bro you did not know, bro, yo soy token gringo nah, bro, you did not know, wishing, I didn't know who he was.
Speaker 2:I didn't't know that was Wishing from Wishing and Yodel bro, he was cool too, very fan-friendly, because I knew he was someone important.
Speaker 1:He's like yeah, yeah, come on take a picture, and my dumb ass didn't take a picture because I was like, oh, fuck it All. Good though it was funny, yo, no it was. We took a picture with a legendary artist.
Speaker 2:He's a legendary artist. I didn't know the name or what he looked like I'm going to be honest but when I heard the music I'm like, oh shit, I know this song.
Speaker 1:It's just everywhere, bro, what Hoy es no chere si so.
Speaker 2:Okay, let them sing it. La levanta de la mi, let them sing it.
Speaker 1:Thank you, you bugger, you bugger. I go crazy when that shit come up Back to the fights.
Speaker 2:What do you want to talk about now? We just talked about Davis. He did his thing. I think a Lomachenko fight is on the horizon, because he's going to send Lomachenko to retirement and that's what the narrative they're going to go with as Lomachenko tries to avenge his Ukrainian brother, xander Zayas. Big, big, he's another one, big, big, big crowd favorite in New York, boricua was in the building.
Speaker 1:Big crowd favorite Boricua, they was in the building.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 1:Man Sereno, that was crazy how they set that up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know she's good friends with him, though she's really good friends with him. But let me say something, and again, if you listen to our show religiously I hope you don't, because you've got a weird religion Xander's been growing on me. I was a hater at first and he changed me, which I was great about, but this fight really changed me because I think it was the fourth round he got caught with some shit. He was dominating, dominating, dominating, Got caught with some shit, got a little cocky, got staggered, came back dominate, dominate, dominate. Ninth round stoppage. And that's what I wanted to see from Xander. I wanted to see him get caught with some shit. Honestly.
Speaker 1:I just wanted to see the stoppage. We've been bad at him stopping for a while.
Speaker 2:But yo, he did his thing in this fight. He got the stoppage. I will say top rank is kind of navigating him a little oddly. He is in a tougher division Like they saw an opportunity for Keyshawn to get a belt so they gave it to him. Xander's got like 20-something fights. Now, man, I think it's we got to get him some hardware.
Speaker 2:I think it's time or take that risk, and he's such a good fit, has such a big fan base in New York or in the East Coast that even if he takes an L going for a belt, he'll still be a big draw. He fights, yeah, he fights, and this fight really, really gained respect for me, to him as a pure boxing fan, because he got caught with that shot and I'm like this is what I wanted to see, this is what I want to see. How? This is what I want to see. How does he bounce back from that? And boy did he, boy did he. 154 do got some sluggers, though they do got some sluggers. So I don't know, he showed though he could take a shot and bounce back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's exciting man, he's skilled. We just needed to see that power?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's two in a row now.
Speaker 1:No, he didn't get the first down Really.
Speaker 2:His last fight wasn't a knockdown, the last fight, we was there. That wasn't a knockdown.
Speaker 1:No, oh shit, absolutely. He didn't get no stoppage, he got the stoppage.
Speaker 2:This one was good though, because he caught a good shot man.
Speaker 1:You got to look that up when we're good shot was staggered backing up.
Speaker 2:We wasn't paying attention to half of the yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know it's fucking yapping, fanboying, yapping, yapping and fanboying um but in the seats, out in the seats I always.
Speaker 2:I always re-watch, though. When I go live I always re-watch the fights because I'm seeing like triple vision. But you just want to hear yourself yell, oh I know, I actually I yo, yo, I can't yell in the fucking ring I got Tourette's or something because I can't help it Like when I'm there in the moment.
Speaker 1:I swear I can't help it and you be coming up with some funny shit.
Speaker 2:Off the top.
Speaker 1:Off the top of the dome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I said something.
Speaker 1:You be saying something. The Timu shoes, the Timu shoes. Yo, yeah, you was. I ain't going to lie, you'd be coming in with some funny shit.
Speaker 2:I never see those shoots. Who was that? I forget, Whatever, All right Another, probably. Fight of the night like style and talent-wise was the draw. Actually, Fossil hit me up, he told me and he watched it. I remember this fight so I didn't re-watch it Because he was on TV.
Speaker 2:You remember that fight oh yeah, melaniki, vito White, magic Melaniki versus Connor Coyle. I want to say something, though this is like a tough division. That's Jahai's division, middle at 160. Now right, it's a pretty tough division where, like there's no real like standout. You know what I mean. Like okay, connor bends, I know you bank, chris, you bank. But like any win In this division, like anybody you face on the way up in this division, is kind of a tough fight. Like look what they did to Jahai Tucker, the guys he fought, and like now this fight, you know the Irish I got to give my half Irish side some credit here because they come to fight. Dude, they do not come. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:They will not sit down. They're not coming to lose. Yeah, definitely, because I thought Vito was going to get them out of here Hell no. Every.
Speaker 2:Irish dude I've seen fight Hell, fucking no, like they don't get jet lag. I don't know what their secret is. Hell, no.
Speaker 1:That's one of the jokes you said, too, like yo he got jet lag, I don't remember. You always say that You're fucking crazy bro.
Speaker 2:But yo like, for real, the Irish come to show up and fight, they're like one step away from like they're just missing one. I think it's their amateur circuit. I've said this before too, but I think their amateur circuit is just not established enough. Where they're missing that like some oomph or enough. Where they're missing that like like some some oomph or like one, they're one step away they. They got to bring some like american trainers in there, I don't know. Or eastern europe, I don't fucking know. Uh, any other trainer switch it up, because they're just missing like one.
Speaker 1:They're like the irish are always in the fights, bro always he was in there banging with that, yeah, and he was throwing some shit. It could have have went either way, yeah.
Speaker 2:Draw was the right decision. I think I do need to watch this fight again. I'm sorry for our listeners. I didn't watch it. Before we talk about it, I'm just going off what I saw live, and I was okay with the draw live. I think Vito did enough to win that fight, and I was on TV so rooting for Vito Vito, I rooting for Vito Vito. I do think, though, they should pump the brakes on Vito a little bit. He's been fighting some tough. The matchmakers with Vito. Don't give him some Irish guy, give him some Tijuana guy for now. For now, yeah, for now, and maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he is really really good in that regard where, like, he can beat these guys, but he definitely is. He's definitely got footwork.
Speaker 1:That's two in a row now, where you got great footwork he got great footwork. I like, I like how he got great footwork he got. You know, he got like a slick boxer type of stance. You know he can slug it out man.
Speaker 2:You know what it is sometimes because I know vito's been sparring some real cats and like sometimes sparring you just look one and then, and then when the bright lights get on, I mean I I think the scars is limit for this guy yeah, he's only, he's only 20 something that's what I'm saying he's 20 something coming out early in new york coming out to fucking biggie he's 22 coming out to biggie.
Speaker 1:like the shows where you come out to would be it sometimes Real quick though.
Speaker 2:He had the energy Keyshawn came out to that Change Is A-Coming Yo, like that was hot yeah, like a church song. Yeah, that was hot. I don't know who the hell it was, but that was cool he cut.
Speaker 1:It was like a new change. I asked his manager why he cut the locks off. He said because he wanted to. I thought it was like it's going to be a meaning or something new beginning.
Speaker 2:I don't know when did you ask him that? When we see him, I asked him why we. Okay, bro.
Speaker 1:It's to do with the locks. That was right in front of us and he was like yo, here, look, you see the band, and you was. He was arguing with everybody. What was I arguing with him? About Keyshawn being from New York? Yo, he was harassing. He's like he's not from here, he's not from here Big New York guy here. He's not from New York.
Speaker 2:Team New York.
Speaker 1:I'm like yo bro, his dad is from New York and we just big fans and he's barbershop, he's all right and I'm like yo and, and we just be big fans and he's barbershop. He's all right and I'm like yo and I was like yo. Why keep showing off, courtesy? He's like. He's like you wanted to, I'm like damn. I said I thought there was going to be some meaning to it.
Speaker 2:Oops, yeah. So that's really it for Miller and Nicky, though You're right, he is kind of a draw on the East Coast though the jersey, his fans are going crazy too. I like him, man, I like him, I do too.
Speaker 1:He's talented, bro, he's talented. He's not better than my boy Rohan, but they're way different weight class though 160,.
Speaker 2:Bro, you know who Jahai Tucker's in his weight class.
Speaker 1:And who Rohan's? Oh, melaniki, wait, rohan wasn't in the middle, uh-uh, wait where he at 147?.
Speaker 2:I think he 140.
Speaker 1:He's not 140. I don't think he's middle, he's fucking big.
Speaker 2:Hold on, let me look. Yo shout out to Rohan man. Yo, he had knockout of the night.
Speaker 1:Knockout, my boy. I've been telling y'all, y'all going to get this bandwagon now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he's 147. 147.
Speaker 1:Y'all going to get in this bandwagon now. Rohan Polanco boy, I'm trying to tell y'all Yo, he came out too.
Speaker 2:Some Dominican shit. I was loving it. You love the Dominican music. There's a vibe, shout out to my boy. You went to the bathroom.
Speaker 1:You missed him. Yeah, he walked out. Oh man, I was fucking tight.
Speaker 2:I got a video for you. I remember I took that video for you, for me, yeah.
Speaker 1:Ah, that's good, Appreciate it. Yo, my boy, rohan, did his fucking thing. Boy, oh my God, I was in there doing the stanky leg. My boy had Yo nah, but you don't. You rarely see these hooks. He throw a left hook. Second round he's throwing a left hook like this, just straight down to right on the top of your freaking head.
Speaker 2:Yo Rohan, he's going to get better and better, bro.
Speaker 1:He's going to get way better and he's powerful already, but the way he throw his hook is way different.
Speaker 2:Did he move up in this fight? I think he moved up. He was 140.
Speaker 1:I think he moved up.
Speaker 2:I am, but it says 143, 143. I think he moved up bro.
Speaker 1:I don't know, but he be fucking His hooks. His hook that he just throws with the left Usually somebody throws an- overhand Welter.
Speaker 2:Yeah bro, somebody throws an overhand, like that.
Speaker 1:He's throwing the overhand right. He's throwing the left hook, like an overhand right, on top of the people's temple and that shit hurts. It got to hurt Because that shit is talented. He'd be throwing the Philly shell in it.
Speaker 1:He's still got to work on that, but it's like they can't touch him, it's like it don't hurt. I don't know man, he was just fighting a taxi driver whatever it was my boy Rohan with another KO and it's crazy. I thought we was going to end up missing him. I thought he was going to be, besides Ali, fucking up the ticket earlier.
Speaker 2:Yo leave Ali fucking up the ticket earlier.
Speaker 1:Leave him alone.
Speaker 2:He comes from a big injury. Whatever I've been thinking about, I'm going to just go into it real quick. I've been thinking about him Nico Ali Walsh. I think I wish he would. I think part of him wishes it too. Boxing-wise he came Not a lot of amateur fights, he just came into this pro thing, fell in love with boxing. I think he wishes in a sense and I don't mean this in a weird way that his name wasn't Ali, because all that hype in the beginning for him and the way top rank kind of just pushed him, pushed him, pushed him made all the spectators think he's way better than he is, and he had no time to progress. It was like boom, boom, boom. You know what I mean? Like look at this guy, look at this guy, and dealing with that mentally is something. So that's all. And he did lose this fight. I thought he lost, and he's coming off a major injury where he showed grit and toughness. So you know I'm all right with it. I hope he bounces back.
Speaker 1:It's a tough road now though tough road now, but I hope he bounces. He clearly lost, yeah, yeah, I hope he bounces. I think they one of the judges, one of the judges we thought it was in. I was like, yo, I was hoping that they gave it to him like at this point. We was like yo well, I hope it is gonna be some rigging if he do win, because he was getting smoked. He was getting smoked out work dogged. It was a mexican maybe. Yeah, oh man, he got you can tell too.
Speaker 2:Like he, when he kept the fight in the center of the ring and if you listen you'll hear me in the crowd he was doing okay, but he would go to the ropes and once he got to the ropes the dude would just lower his chin and come slugging. Just come slugging, bro just but y'all you know, I wish he's a good dude. I like when when's a good dude, man I feel for them.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, he's definitely an awful guy. He don't have the box that name.
Speaker 2:I said that he don't have the box, but with that name he's doing it for the love bro. With that name, dude, it's tough with no. It's like a fucking creep movie he didn't come up in the amateurs, like Shushu told us. Like it's they top rank, won't admit it, but they used that name for some clout chasing during COVID, like they were clout chasing during COVID.
Speaker 1:It is what it is, it is what it is, and that kind of, I think, a fail.
Speaker 2:I think he had potential, like you know what I mean. That kind of like affected him.
Speaker 1:I ain't gonna lie Negative 1,000 favorite. Yeah, chopped yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, chopped. Yeah, man, it was bad, you smoked. That's the name, dude. That's how great Ali was that name. That's how great he was man. That's crazy. Yeah, whatever, all right, and then another little letdown on that card, and then we'll get into the oh man, You're going to go in on him.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to go in, I'm just a little disappointed. Man, jared, big Baby Anderson, we were there, all right. As if you didn't know by this point in the show, we were there. It was silent, the most silent fight of the night. When you're supposed to be the next great American heavyweight and I know he's coming off a big knockout where he got knocked out right. But when you're the next American great heavyweight, right, and you're touted as so, it should not be silent. It should not be silent. That was the most silent.
Speaker 2:Nico Ali Walsh was, and there was less people in when he fought was louder than when Jared Anderson fought, and I'm not saying that's his fault and I'm not taking anything away from him, but mentally I don't know if he's got it anymore mentally. Yeah, he's in there fighting with his corner, winning every round, right, literally. We watched him fight with his corner, winning every round, his opponent and, yes, easier said than done, we're not in the ring fighting, but but we can watch a fight and see what's going on. That dude he was fighting was so predictable, bro. That dude threw no jabs.
Speaker 2:I think he threw one jab and maybe five straight punches the whole fight. He was just hooking, just hooking, hooking, hooking, hooking. Like I'm going to look up the CompuBox, I didn't like I want to see how many hooks, or like yeah, he was just hooking.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And Jared is winning every round and to me, in a sense, I'm like okay, good, good, good, he's getting these rounds and he's getting these rounds and that's good. At a heavyweight, 10 rounds is tough, he's getting these rounds, but then I'm seeing him fight with his corner and then was it the 10th or 9th, 10th, I think he got rocked hella times. He was getting hit. He was getting hit.
Speaker 1:There's still mistakes oh my God, the crowd was going crazy.
Speaker 2:He got rocked mad times during his fight and that's the mistakes that this fight was made to correct. And I think in camp he is. But something mentally is not right, because in the 10th, what does he do? I think this guy was he body slams him. Oh, he just twists him around. He won every round and he body slams him. Like what are you? You're that frustrated? You just won every round. Why are you that frustrated? He's also been known to cry after fights. We've seen him cry after fights. He's won. I just don't Mentally. I wish him the best.
Speaker 2:Sometimes the mental aspect is really really tough and this was on an undercard. This was a get-back fight. Right, you don't need a knockdown if he would have just got the rounds and, honestly, if he didn't slam the guy. There's still mistakes that need to be fixed, but I was okay with that. You got 10 rounds in versus a heavyweight. Like, you went 10 rounds as a heavyweight. That's good to see. You're coming off a major knockout. That's really tough. But then in the 10th he threw all that out the window with the body slam. Like yeah, you're going to get a lot of clickbait, cool, your street cred is going to go up because you body slammed a guy in the ring, but the real boxing people are looking like something ain't right here. Something ain't right. You just won every round.
Speaker 1:Something ain't right mentally, I mean yeah, and I wish him the best. I guess he was just tired of the guy on him like that.
Speaker 2:But he was winning. Still I don't get it. It was like maybe nine to one. He won almost every round.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he won almost every round. Yeah, he was winning every round.
Speaker 2:He was getting caught in between punches With hooks.
Speaker 1:He need to fix that. He's getting caught in between punches. Keep them hands up.
Speaker 2:You can't get caught like that at heavyweight, no you cannot get caught like that at heavyweight.
Speaker 1:He was going to rock his head with his jerk and I'm like, oh man, no way.
Speaker 2:Something. I could see it dude Something mentally is not there, bro, he's throwing hooks.
Speaker 1:You just roll one and counter Roll one. He's throwing the same shit. Every Puma was calling it out for him and he's still Like. I know the corner sees it. I see, I know everybody sees it. It's like point blank that this guy was just trying to tee off on him. He was also a minus like 2,000 favorite I think that's what his game plan was to land a lucky punch because he thought he was green. He thought Jared was green because of his chin.
Speaker 2:And he just kept going. Jared ate him. I'll give him that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he ate him, but you can't do that in heavyweight.
Speaker 2:It's not like 140, 135.
Speaker 1:You can't be eating that, yeah, and it's sad that that happened. Now it's somebody like this guy just coming in he looked miserable in the corner.
Speaker 2:Jared looked we had the. He was on the opposite corner of where we were sitting. He looked miserable. I didn't look at him. I did. I'm like why is he fighting? Like he looked miserable in the corner, dude, and like that's not good to see. You're winning every round.
Speaker 1:You're boxing. I don't know what the defense is with my boy. We want him to be the American great, the next American great.
Speaker 2:The guy he was facing right. At a point I was saying the hook, shit, hook, hook, hook, and I look over at his coach.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, they told you to shut the fuck up. No, he looked at me and laughed.
Speaker 2:The coach looked at me and laughed. Coach looked at me and laughed.
Speaker 1:Because that was the game plan, bro To land a lucky punch.
Speaker 2:Like I said, he's throwing hooks. He's only throwing hooks, hook, hook, hook. And I look over at the coach. The coach looks at me, smiles and laughs Like, more importantly, mentally, he just did not look like he was there. He looked very upset in the corner and he's a very emotional fighter and there was no need to be that emotional in this fight, you know. So, hey, I wish him the best. The heavyweight division is the most dangerous division as heavyweights get older and you talk to them that brain rattle is real. All right, um, and you can't be getting hit like that and you can't be that emotional in there. It's because it's. It's kind of like his downfall right now. Uh, but yeah, I'm rooting for the guy and no another. I want an american great heavyweight shit. I'm waiting, I'm waiting for an american.
Speaker 2:I wish him the best, though it's tough. All right, what else? Quickly, we'll go over Jack Catterall and Arnold Barboza because we have a lot to preview, Sort of the fights that we're about to preview. A lot of them are 50-50 fights, so there's not much to say. We'll just talk about that card quick, but real quick. We'll get into Jack Catterall versus Arnold Barbosa. Winner of this fight was a mandatory for Teofimo Lopez and his W, I believe his WBO belt. Whatever his belt is the one he has.
Speaker 1:Is that mandatory or they were just saying that?
Speaker 2:Nah, this is the mandatory. So if Teofimo doesn't fight this guy in X amount of months or days, uh, he loses his belt. So the pressure is now on teo and and rightfully so teo's been saying some dumb shit lately. You know he's going viral with he's. He's running with this like racism card, which, which isn't cool. He's gonna lose his sponsors, do I think he's actually like a racist? No, I think he's running with this stupid card making dumbass racist comments and it's not good. And, as you know, I'm a huge TO fan and this is coming from probably one of the biggest TO female fans. Like shut the hell up, dude, just stop, just stop, because you're about to lose it all. He's about to lose it all, and Willie knows you ask anybody who's the biggest TO fan in the ring that you know it's me. He's about to lose it everything. Wow.
Speaker 1:Everything. I'm not kidding though, dude. This is great.
Speaker 2:This is like it's stupid, because then he came out.
Speaker 1:Coming from you, yeah.
Speaker 2:He came out on a live and he said some but like, come on, dude, you you talk about like you're here for all the kids and shit. So stop, just stop. I know you you're mentally. He's another one that's mentally in and out all over the place and he touted us for keeping it real right. So I'm keeping it real. Yo shut up like you're you're. You're digging a bigger hole in your life than you need to because you're about to lose every sponsor. You got saying dumb shit and you don't got the excuse of being drunk, you're just saying dumb shit, sober, you know what I mean. Wow, and I hope he comes out and apologizes or something, because again, I don't believe that he wants attention so bad that that's what he has to lower himself to. It's not cool. There's no way everybody agrees with me and again, this is coming from the.
Speaker 1:I've followed teo since he came up in the game, his biggest fan, yeah, like what are you doing, dude?
Speaker 2:like I, I gotta, I gotta sit there and and like, like now I got, what am I supposed to do? He's one of my favorite athletes, just athlete wise, and now I gotta, like, defend that. Get the fuck out of here, bro, shut up. Anyway, enough about him. We gave him enough attention unwanted that he got.
Speaker 1:But I will say that was off the top two man, shit damn um.
Speaker 2:winner of jack catterall and now in the ring to is great. So winner of jack catterall versus versus to? Uh, I so winner of Jack Catterall versus TO. I'm sorry, jack Catterall versus Barbosa is TO, so he gets the mandatory for this belt. To will wash this guy.
Speaker 1:I just want to say that and that's from a black man TO will wash this guy.
Speaker 1:He is basic One-two punch. This is one of the boring fights I ever figured I'd watch the highlights of. It was not one highlight. They ain't seen nobody get rocked, they just one-twoing each other all day. I didn't see a hook, damn near. I didn't see nothing. I see the fake uppercut that missed. I didn't see nothing. Movement with minimum. They don't know how to move. They don't know nothing. I swear this is two mid fighters and I like Jack. I like Jack and it was. He looked so mid and Barbosa is just mid too. So it's like I hated watching this fight, just reviewing, just reviewing it and watching the highlights on the zone, and it was whack.
Speaker 1:I'll say this it was whack, and then they called out saying Tio, pretty much ducking, like, oh he got a call, I'm calling him ASAP. This has got to be. We're going to know by Monday they said we're going to know by Monday if Tio's going to take this fight. Y'all don't want this fight. Tio's going to beat the shit out of this guy, bro. Tio's going to beat the shit out of him with his goddamn racist ass. He's going to beat the shit out of him. It's going to be bad. He's not talented. I don't think so, and it's crazy. The first time I heard of this guy is when he was going to fake be the replacement for Ryan Garcia. That fight with Devin oh Barbosa.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was fake going to be, the Devin would have plucked his ass. This guy is mid.
Speaker 2:He better get his bag up, barbosa speaking of the Irish before right, barboza got gifted in a fight I watched this Irish dude didn't beat the hell out of him, but won the fight clearly. Okay, but since then Barboza went back and his last fight Jesus, what the hell, ramirez? Oh yeah, that was a good win and he did win that fight, right.
Speaker 1:And then Ramirez Just came back and got a knockout Right.
Speaker 2:No, I think that was his last fight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he just, he just beat the. I might be saying we just watched it At your house.
Speaker 2:Jose Carlos Ramirez yeah, he got a knockout. No, no, his last fight Was Barbosa. He lost unanimous decision.
Speaker 1:He didn't fight after that. No, oh, there's too many Ramirez Shit, so he's not the other. Ramirez is pretty good, I like him. He's throwing the crazy shots. I thought that was the other guy.
Speaker 2:So this version of Jose Carlos Ramirez wasn't who we thought he was, but I will say Barboza did beat him and in this fight right, barboza did have a game plan. So he came in and right off the get-go he was punching that shoulder, punching that shoulder.
Speaker 1:I like that. I like that. That was nice. I learned that. I learned that.
Speaker 2:I learned that from him you say he's mid, he was going to the mid.
Speaker 1:He was punching the Punch the shoulder, the wing and the arms. He did his homework.
Speaker 2:He did his homework, so he is getting better. Now listen, jack Catterall isn't next tier. Everything I just said negative about Tio's personality in the ring, that all goes out the window. Yeah, skills pay the bills. Tio Fimo does wash him and Tio Fimo is going to take this fight in Alcatraz and get like yeah, tio got too much of a bag.
Speaker 1:Too much of a bag, and he's still learning His footwork Ramirez's footwork Trash.
Speaker 2:No, he was on, not Ramirez Barboza's footwork. Trash. He was on his toes, though in and out like that. First this opponent, jack Catterall.
Speaker 1:Trash. They both were sitting there for a minute, caterall.
Speaker 2:Trash. They both were sitting there for a minute. Trash there was a lot of lackluster punches. They were just standing there punching each other.
Speaker 1:And moving straight backwards.
Speaker 2:Again, I'm not happy with TO. You know how many.
Speaker 1:Both of them was hitting each other with one-twos. Yeah, you're right, both of them just sitting there. One-twos, one-two, back One-two and back One-two back T.
Speaker 2:T-O-K-O-T-K-O. Though If that fight happens, which I think it will I don't think T-O's moving up.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:T-O-K-O-T-K-O in that fight.
Speaker 1:That's money.
Speaker 2:That's easy money. And again I want to reiterate, because I'm serious about it I want him to shut that racist shit up.
Speaker 1:Not really no disrespect to Barbosa, but you're not up there. You're not up there with him.
Speaker 2:Nah, he's not next tier, but hey, he's been calling TO out since day one and he's getting his wish.
Speaker 1:I'm glad that he's calling people out, though, and you know what I?
Speaker 2:got to give him his flowers. He got a decision in England. That's hard to do.
Speaker 1:He went to England and got a decision and it was a close fight.
Speaker 2:It could have went either way, like if they picked.
Speaker 1:Jack Kerr. He said that. He said that he definitely got that, but he did outwork him.
Speaker 2:He outworked him. He outworked him, and I think his footwork is what won it. For him, though, because he was in and out like and applying pressure.
Speaker 1:They was, I don't, it was just one-twos, like nobody was moving. Lateral, nobody was moving. They was moving front and back, front and back, one-two forward. One one, two back. That's all they were doing all day. It was no side to side, nothing. No, I don't see no slip to the right. No, it was a southpaw versus an orthodox. Their backhand was landing, both of their backhands was landing. It was just one, twos all day. It was weird.
Speaker 2:It was, whack it was, but that's how he fights. You know what I will say, though? He is good with the lead right, when he comes in with the lead right. Yeah, it was popping, he switches it up like that, but I don't care TO is going to just.
Speaker 1:You have to have a bigger bag.
Speaker 2:You said it perfectly.
Speaker 1:Boxing-wise he's way better TO might just do a backflip in the middle of the ring and then hit him, or something.
Speaker 2:Willie does not like this fucking yeah, he has no skill. There was no skill in this fight. This is how bad and I like Jack Catterall.
Speaker 1:He was looking so mid against this guy looking mid and he looked mid.
Speaker 2:This is how bad Willie don't like Arnold Barboza. I came in Tio's a racist interlude and fucking and Willie like nah Tio gonna fuck his ass up Yo it's no, but for real, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. Like. I'm talking about skills.
Speaker 1:You know, I like the people that got skills and he just don't have it. He just don't?
Speaker 2:Tio's born with quick twitch like Gervonta, Tio's born with quick twitch.
Speaker 1:You're talking about skills.
Speaker 2:Different tier, different tier. Yeah, this is it, but again I got to say it again, though Arnold Barboza knew this was a mandatory, he went into England versus Jack Catterall.
Speaker 1:Now shout out to him for taking these fights and wanting to fight.
Speaker 2:And calling them out. He said he's ducking. I don't think he's ducking.
Speaker 1:No, it was on the title, I guess.
Speaker 2:He ain't ducking. That's one thing. That's why I became a fan of Tio. He called out Lomachenko from day one and Lomachenko's prime foe. You heard me say it a billion times. That's prime for them.
Speaker 1:you heard me say it a billion times, but that's that's where that love for, for teo as a boxer came from it's mid mid, mid fighter, yeah, um.
Speaker 2:And then we had another big fight oscar duarte versus this guy yo shout out to this guy bro.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, it was two messengers in there.
Speaker 2:This was a fight yo, this was an exciting. Exciting I had. I didn't watch it live, I wish I was too hungover, I feel bad for that other guy though.
Speaker 1:Miguel, I feel bad for Miguel. Bro, how do you say?
Speaker 2:his last name Medueno Yo Yo, but he was slugging too, he can slug, yeah, but you could tell that it was going to get ugly. Yeah, he got the ref. Yo, Oscar Duarte did his thing. He's been on a tear lately since the Ryan Garcia loss.
Speaker 1:Nah, I ain't gonna lie. He had to have brain damage or something and body and liver damage and stomach problems.
Speaker 2:He might have shit and peed blood and you know what I loved most about this fight Once he got the stoppage right. Yeah, Oscar. De La Hoya, and this is props to Keyshawn. I didn't see this part. Oscar De La Hoya, dazon, even the announcers right away. They're like Miguel Madueno went the distance with Keyshawn Davis a day after Keyshawn gets his belt and they are clout chasing Keyshawn already. Yeah, oscar runs into the ring, tells Duarte this guy, this guy was a Keyshawn, couldn't knock this guy out and I want to say something.
Speaker 1:Oscar, you're all wrong. How do you?
Speaker 2:think he feels.
Speaker 1:How do?
Speaker 2:you think he's like yo? I just got this guy out of here Like you're telling me Keyshawn, keyshawn, like, come on, man, stop clout chasing Keyshawn already. But that's what the.
Speaker 1:That's how they're going to make that fight.
Speaker 2:And that's why belts matter. Keyshawn's going to move up because that was 140, right.
Speaker 1:Yes, was it. Asker Duarte is 140? 140.
Speaker 2:Is he? Yep, I double checked. All right, I'll take your word for it. So they at 140.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm like yo Keyshawn's going to stop the guy. And he did. Oh man, yeah, but you see that clout chasing bro, that's a good point.
Speaker 2:Maybe you're right.
Speaker 1:Another storyline.
Speaker 2:I felt bad for Duarte because this is why I gained respect for Duarte. Duarte didn't even acknowledge all that and then, post-fight interview, he goes. I want my rematch with Ryan Garcia, dog Dog. I like that. I like that they're pushing Kishore. Kishon, kishon, kishon, kishon couldn't knock him out, kishon couldn't Duarte was fucking bro. I like that.
Speaker 1:When I say combinations, combinations, the announcer said Kishon To the body.
Speaker 2:He said To the body he went, they go, he does something Kishon failed to do. Why you hating on Kishon? My man just got his belt bro.
Speaker 1:When I'm talking about breaking down a tree, breaking down a person, that's exactly what he did, because he chopped that man down. We're talking about body shots, but he was getting hit too. That was a great fight, yo, he was getting hit too, but I'm just talking about slowing him down with body shots. That was like when coaches tell you to break somebody down and slow them down with body shots.
Speaker 2:He did that. I hate to say, though, duarte had a point when he called out Ryan Garcia for the rematch, because right now Duarte is high risk, low reward. Yeah, like Ryan Garcia is always going to be a draw, you can knock him out, he's going to be a draw. So Duarte calling him back again for that rematch, that fight could happen. I don't think Keyshawn going to risk his belt versus a guy like Duarte because, other than Latinos, no that he will be going up to 140 foot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, he would have to go up to yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 1:That fight's not happening. I'm telling you bro.
Speaker 2:The Lomachenko fight. Is that's going to happen? You think so. I'm telling you. I think he's moving up to 140. When they announced that Lomachenko fight, he thinks that he's fighting Lomachenko.
Speaker 1:He is bro Lomachenko. Don't want to fight Keyshawn, Because you got to think Keyshawn is big as shit, but you got to think For both sides right. Not that Loma needs any moreur. That's the best fight for him, because he's not going to get knocked out.
Speaker 2:True true, Yo, but Loma's still shifty with it. I don't care Loma, so yeah, just like you. In my opinion he beat Haney. I don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think he beat Haney too.
Speaker 2:Loma's still shifty, I think he's. He's going through a lot of injuries from what I'm reading A lot of injuries.
Speaker 1:Him Shakur too Shakur, hand is fucked oh yeah, I saw those pictures, his hand is fucked, let's get into that though.
Speaker 2:Let's get into that. Take a breather quick. Shakur Stevenson, I didn't even prep for this.
Speaker 2:Me, neither we're going off the top and the only reason I didn't was because the damn fights friday. My ass was hung. I'm not hung, but I was hung over, probably the best card of the year, best card in in the last 20 years, from top to bottom. Right saturday, february 22nd, in saudi fights start around 2, 3 pm, maybe 1 pm, I don't even know. We have the arthur, but better be of. I was getting some hate for how I call him. Better be if I don't care. First, dimitri bivel rematch for undisputed winner gets allegedly our guy yep um benavidez.
Speaker 2:Before that fight, we have Daniel Dubois Dubois versus Joseph Parker, who always shows up. Oh, that's who he fights, always shows up.
Speaker 1:And I'm not gonna lie to you?
Speaker 2:I'm not gonna lie to you. Willie, I know you're heavy on Danny. That's your guy and I'll give you that. I gotta sprinkle something on Joseph Parker, I gotta, is he?
Speaker 1:he's uh, he's uh. He's not the favorite, no, no danny.
Speaker 2:Danny's the favorite. But I gotta sprinkle something on joseph parker because he in the big fights lately he showed up. He comes prepared and I saw some shit of him eating raw fish like after fishing. Google it, you can't bet against that guy.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's gonna be sick at the fight. Can't bet against that guy.
Speaker 2:Then again we have Hamza Shiraz Versus Carlos Adames, which is a fucking great matchup too. I'm backing Hamza on that. But again, that weight class you don't know what's gonna happen. You do not know what's gonna happen. Virgil Ortiz Jr the most exciting fight on this card, in my opinion versus Madrimov. That fight is must-see.
Speaker 1:Tv Madrimov is Terrence Crawford just fought.
Speaker 2:Must-see TV.
Speaker 1:Virgil Ortiz Jr.
Speaker 2:That's going to be an insane fight. Madrimov has power in both hands. He gave Terrence Crawford a run for his money. Virgil Ortiz Jr, you know, is chin-down slugging. I'm betting on Virgil Ortiz Jr only because I've been a favorite forever, but this is a true 50-50 fight. That is a true 50-50 fight. Israel Madrimov versus Virgil Ortiz Jr is who you want your non-boxing friends on the cusp to watch. This is a fight you want them to watch.
Speaker 1:That fight is going to be electric. I think I'm going to bet the distance for this one.
Speaker 2:I'm not. I'm betting stoppage, TKO, KO and then Shakur Stevenson versus Floyd Schofield. I will be betting the distance on that fight. Oh yeah, that's a distance fight. That's going to be a good fight.
Speaker 1:Floyd Sch skill. Yeah, this is the fight that you want to watch.
Speaker 2:But this is not the fight.
Speaker 1:This is going to be a boxing match.
Speaker 2:Skill.
Speaker 1:Skill Boxing match.
Speaker 2:This is not what you want.
Speaker 1:It's only going to be no fight. This is going to be boxing.
Speaker 2:This is going to be the art of boxing and switching. And that being said, floyd is too green, schofield is too green. Great, great potential. You think so. I know so. Shakur Stevenson. Shakur, with the hurt hands, shakur Stevenson will jab his face off.
Speaker 1:He's one of the—.
Speaker 2:Say what you want about him, he is the most defensive fighter in the game right now, actively, and he is going to just pick apart Floyd Schofield because Floyd Schofield is so green in 10 years from now or five.
Speaker 1:But this show, for if you listen in, bro, this is your time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so when it's your fucking time to show out bro this is your time to show out, bro, this is your time.
Speaker 1:This is your time, your moment. Your core is fucking skilled as hell. I just want to see you go in there and do your thing and show your worth, bro. This is your time, right now. This is going to make you or break you, my guy. It's going to make you or break you.
Speaker 2:Then, like early, we have fucking Ajit Kabayel right Versus my guy who bang zhang, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1:yeah, dude, this card is crazy what big bang this is on like.
Speaker 2:This is basically on the undercard this is the like you know, the undercard. They don't show on tv like this zelai big bang zhang. I think he's knocking ajit out. Ajit's gonna outbox and but he's going to get caught with some shit and, unlike Parker, ajit's not going to be able to get up. That's my opinion. I will say this, though the English money Saudis are a little more in bed with the English than the Chinese. They're going to be back in Caballel, so Zhang needs a knockout. I looked it up Zhang is coming in heavy. He's coming in heavy, good or bad. How the hell you be finding that? I'd just be creeping. I'm betting Zhang knockout in that because I can't not. I love Big Bang Zhang. He's also fan friendly.
Speaker 1:He's the most nicest guy, his trainer is fucking amazing.
Speaker 2:Big bang, zang all the way and this is for the interim heavyweight belt Winner probably gets Dubois or Parker winner and Zang wants that Parker rematch, because I thought Zang won that fight too.
Speaker 1:He knocked Parker down twice. He won that.
Speaker 2:Then, before that fight Kalem Smith versus Joshua Blatzy. Okay, that's a great fight. Before that fight Kalem Smith versus Joshua Boazzi I don't know these. Okay, that's a great fight too.
Speaker 1:That's a great fight too, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think the money's on Joshua, but Kalem could outpoint him. I'm betting Kalem on that. This whole card, bro, is 50-50. 50-50. Except for the first fight, Castantino.
Speaker 1:Nanja, you got a Sparlay going on post.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to post a Sparlay for this one for sure, but I don't want people To follow it Because I you know, listen, I'm biased towards Zhang. Ajit is ranked higher in most rankings, but you can Zhang. Zhang is smart. Zhang is the only guy that knocked the shit out of one of the best Chins I've ever seen in boxing in Joe Joyce Jr and Zhang. His head went spinning.
Speaker 1:Zhang spun Joe Joyce's head Zhang is like the.
Speaker 2:Yao Ming of boxing, but better Because he bangs in the paint. Yao Ming was soft. Now you're being. Now you're profiling Zhang, my bad, fucking race in the show. I hate it. All right, that's really it, and then. Okay, now we got one more fight to preview and I'm going to let Willie take it away on this. We doing this already, yeah, he fights in March 1st right, yeah, but we be back, okay, oh no, you're right. You're right, all right, you're right, all right, never mind. Next episode, yes, next episode.
Speaker 1:We would preview Tank Davis man. I've been watching a lot of that shit.
Speaker 2:We promise too, me and Willie, willie and I for the people that think I don't speak right Willie and I. We promise we are going to Brooklyn or Manhattan, one or the other, we're not sure yet and we're doing street interviews in regards to this fight.
Speaker 1:Oh, we're not supposed to tell nobody, we're just supposed to do it Well we already told them and nobody made it this far anyway. If you made it this far, write Puma in the comments.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'll send you free merch. Oh that would be nice. Always Beterbiev. Oh no, Wait, wait, wait. We're not done with the show.
Speaker 1:Oh, shit what.
Speaker 2:We got. So this card is so damn good. We got so carried away.
Speaker 1:You didn't even take the main event.
Speaker 2:We didn't preview the main event. That's how good this card is, bro. That's how good that card is. The main Dimitri Bivel versus Artur Beterbiev Beterbiev whatever you want to call him, dude. Let me tell you something the biggest thing against Beterbiev, right In all of his fights and I always switch the way I say his name the biggest thing against Beterbiev in all his fights Was activity and injuries. Activity and injuries. Guess who's active now Beterbiev? Guess who saw active now? Better BF, yeah, guess who saw Dimitri Bivol Felt his power? Better BF? Guess who's coming full steam ahead? Better BF, I'm betting Better BF. Kogk.
Speaker 1:Wow, you cave along.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm betting Better BF, kogk, because that matters, activity matters.
Speaker 1:When you said that shit earlier, I really thought you was betting Bivel again.
Speaker 2:Bivel might try to outsmart him, outpoint him, but Bivel's about to get hit with some real shit. Let me tell you, because that last fight activity mattered. There's a little confusion. Better be as I'm sorry. Bivel moves Bivel's slick with the jab In and out. We got film, we got everything. Now this is it. Do I think better? Bf's time is coming. Yeah, he's getting old, but oh, but right now, fighting like this, he's coming he is coming fucking punches with his stop.
Speaker 1:Those are the arms.
Speaker 2:I don't think the arms of bivel can take that again seriously. I don't think he could take those shots on the arms again. That's how hard Better BF hits. And now he has downloaded data.
Speaker 1:That was the most controversial. Use the comments. If you look at the comments underneath these boxing posts and shit and a lot of people are like Bivel won, bivel won.
Speaker 2:Bivel's going to win early rounds. Bivel's going to win early rounds, but that storm is coming and Bivel's not going to know what to do with it.
Speaker 1:We got a fresh off there, the fact that we got this fight.
Speaker 2:Shout out to the Saudis bro.
Speaker 1:They got this fight back, but the wrong time, but the wrong time why.
Speaker 2:It's going to be on at like 1 pm.
Speaker 1:It's going to be on at like 1 pm. It's always that, though, but it's the right time for me, because I will be live that night, exactly because you already have shit going on.
Speaker 2:I will be watching my guy. That sucks, though.
Speaker 1:That sucks though.
Speaker 2:I called the Hard Rock. I think they might be showing it. I know Top Rank is showing the main event.
Speaker 1:You called them actually.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, Pure boxing fan. Hey, like, subscribe, follow, we're out. This was a long show. Next episode we're coming back with Willie's favorite fighter.
Speaker 1:Tank. You already know the vibes.
Speaker 2:Willie's going to talk a lot in that fight.
Speaker 1:Probably not.
Speaker 2:Hey, shout out to Top Rank. Shout out to MSG Madison Square Garden. We had a great Friday night. Shout out to MSG Madison Square Garden. We had a great Friday night. Shout out to Virginia. If you made it this far, which you probably didn't, shout out to you guys and your fans. Shout out to Keyshawn Davis man showing out. Hey, yeah, the Spar and Boxing Podcast. Yo Like follow subscribe. Yo shout out, bro, like follow subscribe.
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