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50TH EPISODE CELEBRATION! HAIR REVELATIONS, BROOKLYN'S CHAMP, AND BOXING'S CHAOTIC BEAUTY
What happens when a new hairstyle leads to unexpected life revelations and boxing tales? Join us for a milestone moment on THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST as we celebrate our 50th episode with a mix of laughter, personal stories, and, of course, our shared love for the sweet science. From the adorable holiday adventures in gift-giving with American Girl dolls to the vibrant diversity they represent, we embrace the joyous chaos of life's little surprises before sliding into the ring to unpack the thrilling ascent of Brooklyn's own Richardson Hitchens. His recent triumph in securing the IBF Junior Welterweight Championship has us buzzing, and we draw fascinating parallels between his rise and the dynamic world of boxing and review all the recent matches to go with it!
it's time for the main event. It's the sparring podcast. Oh, it's a knockout.
Speaker 2:Oh, we're recording what up, what up, what up, oh shit no way episode 50 of the spar in a boxing podcast. Episode 50, bro, 50. That's the sound of the police. 50.
Speaker 1:50? Oh shit, okay, I see what you did there 50.
Speaker 2:AKA.
Speaker 1:Ferrari F50. Okay, you going in right now. Speaking of 50, man.
Speaker 2:Speaking of 50, he gave a big shout out to Brooklyn's new champion.
Speaker 1:Oh, word he did. Yeah, look at that, see how I did that. That was maddy, that was just. It flowed and you didn't have that written down.
Speaker 2:That's just, but hey, welcome to episode 50 of the Spar and Boxing Radio podcast. What up y'all? Willie is back, I'm back. Baby, he got his hair did. I got a hairdo?
Speaker 1:Yeah, did that take long? Nah, like an hour and a half it was fast Jesus.
Speaker 2:Yo Must be nice to have hair. This is my first time, even ever doing my hair.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't even know how to take care of it.
Speaker 2:Does that get annoying For those listening? What is that called Braids? Yeah.
Speaker 1:These are two-strand twists. Two-strand Sounds like a dance. Yeah right, two-strand twists, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's all right, crisscross right now um they be itching, so I just pat it like I got a weave or something. I feel like. I feel like you haven't been because we missed thanksgiving, yeah, last week we had to get some sleep.
Speaker 1:You know I'm feeling good. No, I can't. I was on my way here. Right, let's talk about life on my way here.
Speaker 2:Five minute like this, how god works.
Speaker 1:So we're just gonna make a positive. This is a positive thing that happened. I go to get in my car right, drop my shorty off because she stayed over and my car didn't start, and I was on my way here too, so my car didn't start, so I needed a new battery. That battery is gone and guess what? I needed a new battery anyway because I had to drive to Baltimore the next weekend, yep. So that's how God works, but that's $240. Then the next day, and then the next day I was fucking knocked out, bro. I didn't get no sleep. Like I didn't get no sleep. I felt like no sleep Working man.
Speaker 2:The working man is a tough guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's like a guy, alex Vare. Actually, almost every boxer we interviewed has been like just straight not everyone but majority of them, yeah, have just been straight workers. But yeah, so then we had Thanksgiving, Willie.
Speaker 1:Miss Magic Mike was yeah, he did the bridge, bridge painter. He was doing some real work.
Speaker 2:We got to get him back on too, mike Tyson's sparring partner, magic Mike Russell. Yeah, good guy, good guy, but again we have a lot to go over. Let's get into the boxing aspect of things. Christmas December it was December 7th when these fights happened. That's two days ago. Now it's Monday. Yeah, time is flying. Speaking of December, willie, you know. So I don't have kids. If we're going to talk about life Before we get into boxing, I don't have kids of my own. So I was like let me get Willie's kid a gift. He says, yeah, yeah, she likes the American Girl doll stuff. So we're trying to look through this American Girl doll stuff.
Speaker 2:And I didn't know that the variances in skin tone.
Speaker 1:I learned something today I didn't know. Nah, she too dark, really. Colorism, the variances in skin tone. Yeah, I learned something today.
Speaker 2:Shit got really I didn't know. It was like nah, she too dark.
Speaker 1:Really got, really colorism.
Speaker 2:A lot of diversity. Diversity training yeah, Diversity training. Freaking hairstyles what do you mean?
Speaker 1:They making American Girl dolls with freaking highlights in their hair and all that what type of shit is that?
Speaker 2:Those American Girl dolls look of age.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they don't look young. What is going on?
Speaker 2:But hey, we figured it out and we're going to give Willie's kid a little gift.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you, I appreciate it, man, uncle Puma and the Spar Inn.
Speaker 2:You know your kid's getting like a Spar Inn hoodie too.
Speaker 1:Definitely. I've got one of them coming soon. She's going to wear it. She's going to wear it. She's going to wear it. Definitely.
Speaker 2:Some of the other kids don't listen.
Speaker 1:She loves oversized hoodies too.
Speaker 2:This is rated R. Yeah, that's it. That's it for the Life Talk. Thanksgiving Christmas on the way. What a good time. What a good time, but it's better. In the boxing world, december is always a great boxing month. Yeah, and we had three really great fights this weekend, actually a bunch of great fights, but three belt fights this past weekend Actually four. There was a heavyweight fight too.
Speaker 1:There was belt fights, but it was like a little lackluster a little bit. Which one the main cards?
Speaker 2:No, it was weird.
Speaker 1:One fight was, I feel like all of them ended early yeah except one, except for one.
Speaker 2:We'll talk about that first. Let's get right into it now. Enough with the chit-chat about our lives that you people do not care about. Liam Parrow versus Richardson Hitchens, brooklyn boy, brooklyn born, and the new and the new IBF Junior Welterweight Champion at 140. New York has a new champion, a real Brooklyn kid. He did it, man, he went for it, he did it. You know he is good, he is talented. I said in the last episode that you weren't here. He's like what did I say? Oh, he's like a Timu Shakur Stevenson.
Speaker 1:A Timu Shakur? Yeah, that's fucking.
Speaker 2:And I didn't mean that as like an insult. I just mean Shakur is that good at what he does, but that's how, like that's kind of how Richardson Hitchens fights. Yeah, he kind of showed that in this fight he's a back foot fighter.
Speaker 1:I can see why you said team move though Cause Still good, still good. But his, his defense is not that good. Yeah, that's why His distance is good. No, his defense, he was looking sloppy.
Speaker 2:When that pressure started coming he was kind of like his footwork. He does not like the pressure. His footwork was down. But his jab is a masterpiece. His jab is freaking. Nice, great jab.
Speaker 1:His one-two, oh man, but that's like.
Speaker 2:so, speaking of his one-two, that's my only gripe. And listen, he got a belt, he beat a champion. He did beat a champion, right yeah, because Now, arguably that's probably the easiest champion of them all to beat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because he did get lucky I don't know how With that guy, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think so too. I mean, but that guy did beat the boogeyman. He works, yeah, he works man.
Speaker 1:He's a working man. He works Like he works in that ring. I didn't know too.
Speaker 2:I just found this out. He spars Devin Haney frequently. Devin Haney brings him in his camp. Yeah, yeah, but listen, I don't want to take anything away from him. He had a chance to get a belt and he got it. That's what boxing's all about. He got his Again, without taking anything away from him. He's still green man. He's a very green champion, very green champion, and he's calling out TO after I didn't see no no.
Speaker 2:He started already. No, I didn't. Even when you said one-twos right, you said his one-two is crazy. Yeah, what else does he have?
Speaker 1:We didn't see anything in this fight. He didn't let his hands go.
Speaker 2:There was no combos, it was one-two jab jab the two was landing at will that two was landing, landing at will.
Speaker 1:That left hook was landing too, but he didn't throw it as much.
Speaker 2:He didn't throw it much. No, one-two jab jab, and that's the when you version of Southpaw that's what that left hook is going to be there. He didn't throw a lot and he should have. Everyone was saying he should have, as you. Now, if he's calling out the likes of Tiafimo, right, who else is over there? All of them, all those heavy hitters at that weight class, the main guy, jose Valenzuela. He's going to be a problem.
Speaker 2:He's going to be a problem for him. Alberto Pueyo is like the interim WBC champ. I don't know what's going on with that.
Speaker 1:Somebody is going to take that belt.
Speaker 2:Devin Haney is kind of still the WBC guy.
Speaker 1:I think, oh yeah, and then you got that old guy Ishmael Barroso. Yeah, that's what I was about to say. Ishmael, that's his name.
Speaker 2:Ishmael Barroso yeah, the one that beat, freaking. What's his face?
Speaker 1:The older dude right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he got robbed and then came back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the older dude, the lanky dude, he got one of the main belts. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:No, he's got the interim. I don't even know. No, the main belt dude, alberto Pueyo.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, he started to pee, right Pueyo.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Alberto Pueyo has a belt. He older though, yeah he's older, looks older, he's Dominican, but the oldest is Ishmael Barroso. He's old as shit, the one that fought.
Speaker 1:What's his name? The dude.
Speaker 2:Tank, the dude Tank, knocked out.
Speaker 1:I always forget his name.
Speaker 2:Why do I always forget his name? I was just seeing the freaking Tank's big fight. The guy talks shit from Vegas. Fuck, having a brain fart From Vegas, yeah, oh my goodness, oh, roley, roley, yeah. Ishmael Barroso. Remember Roley? Roley fought the old dude and robbed.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Old dude got his belt back finally.
Speaker 1:Oh, the old dude that got robbed yeah.
Speaker 2:Roley got the win and got a belt.
Speaker 1:The old dude got a belt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sort of. It's the whatever the champion in recess. No, that's Haney, haney's the champion in recess. I don't know what that means for the WBC, but for the WBA the interim junior welterweight champion is Ishmael Barroso. But it doesn't make sense because Jose Valenzuela has that belt. So I don't know. Whatever. To me, to me, to me, Tiafimo has the WBO right, he's the man that beat. The man has the Ring Magazine belt. That's the guy to beat in the division. Who cares? At 140. At 140. I know I'm high on Tio always, but at 140, that's the guy to beat. Listen, richardson Hitchens now has a real belt, the IBF belt. He got it. I don't think he's ready for TO, but that's just my opinion. And if you look at the way he fights, you're not going to beat a fighter like that with one-twos one. You're not. His style is all wrong. For TO.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I didn't believe he was going to win that fight. No, he pulled away, yeah, but he started off slow and then I don't know how it got to that point.
Speaker 2:What I mean by green too. Did you see what was going on in the corner?
Speaker 1:Oh no.
Speaker 2:He's got like five or six people in the corner talking to him, right? He's the same fighter that was on the phone in the corner at one point with Shakur, I guess it was, but now he was talking to Berlanga and then, at one point, scooter from Long Island yeah his uh, strength and conditioning coach.
Speaker 2:The coaches told him to get down. They're like Scooter, stay down there, stay down there while they're talking to him. But then the next round Scooter was back up there. Nothing against him, but I'm like what is going on? Who is the coach? He's got too many voices and it's too green.
Speaker 2:He needs to clean that up. That next elite level like, yes, taro was a champion, he was. He's the man that beat the boogeyman. He beat the guy that nobody thought Probably one of the bigger upsets of the year. Styles do make fights. He did very well in that, but that was all he had. If you're going to take that next leap now, if you're going to take that next leap now, now you're the champion, let's see if you can hold that belt. And he called out TO right away, right after, which is great for us he wants that fight in New York, two New York guys.
Speaker 1:If he goes and unifies with a different belt. I think I want to see TO versus Venezuela, yeah.
Speaker 2:That would be an action-pack fucking. I don't know what's going on there, that'd be an action-pack baby. Since we're talking about Tio, though and he knocked him down apparently in sparring before who Valenzuela it's all over the internet Knocked Tio down back in the day Woo, they need to get that one.
Speaker 1:Let them unify and let Richardson fight the older dude. So I think, here's my theory I got to get his name.
Speaker 2:Ishmael Barroso or Pueyo. There's two old looking dudes. Pueyo is like the Dominican.
Speaker 1:The one that got one of the main belts. That would be undisputed belt.
Speaker 2:Pueyo has the WBC but Haney is the WBC in recess because they don't know if Haney is.
Speaker 1:That dude is going to be tough for Richardson too.
Speaker 2:The older head Richardson is slick enough to stay away. He's always a half step ahead. He's very good at distance and his jab that dude is long. The old head.
Speaker 1:He's a long.
Speaker 2:His jab is dynamite and it's going to cause problems for anyone. But I just think the athleticism of TO and the pressure that he could put on when he does put on is going to catch Richardson at this point in his career. I don't think he's going to fight him. No, well, no, I do think he is. So Tio came out today apparently no like fight.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, like during the fight, it's not going to be a fight.
Speaker 2:He's going to really have to box the whole fight because he's not going to fight him. No, he's going to do what you know with that jab. Stay away, stay away, stay away. But if you, if you did, the recipe to beating richardson hitchens is already there.
Speaker 2:Limos showed us that yeah, limos showed us that they went 12 and he had him hurt. And now limos isn't that great of a fighter. So that pressure now by a guy like teo or like devin haney, even if he applies the pressure, lomachenko, pressure like that from an elite level, an elite talent, is going to be a huge issue for him.
Speaker 1:I hope he does great versus everybody not named TO. I hope he unifies and then we have him and TO as oh man, him in MSG or in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2:That's what he said, though he said he wants it in Brooklyn or New York, it'll probably be in MSG.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh bro.
Speaker 2:But like I don't think, I think that fight can happen, actually because TO came out today. Bob Arum apparently stated that he's in talks with Eddie Hearn, edward Hearn, about a fight between TO and Boots at 147. That's what Tio wants. Tio's saying that, but I think it's a flaw, I think it's all a gimmick. And they're in talks with Eddie Hearn and Eddie Hearn's going to be like well, let's just give him Richardson Hitchens in his division. And then Tio's going to be like yeah, okay, and obviously Tio's the A-side in that fight, whereas the Boots Tio fight. It's going to be hard to negotiate because Boots is going to want the most money, tio's going to want the most money. So I don't think that fight's going to happen. But this is a good breaking ground for the Hitchens Tio fight to align. If you read between the lines, I think that's we might be up for that you do a good job at reading between the lines.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I do.
Speaker 2:I can't read regular though. You know what I mean. Don't think about it. That makes the most sense, right? I think it makes sense. I can't read it regular, but hey, if TO does fight Boots and that fight happens, I'm all here for it.
Speaker 1:I'm here for that shit too. Yeah, that's style-wise.
Speaker 2:Somebody's going to get exposed a fucking hydration clause though, because Boots is big.
Speaker 1:Oh man, here we go, don't know.
Speaker 2:No, no, like to make it fair Hydration clause yeah. If they fight at 147.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but y'all be saying shit about Tank, but now he needs one.
Speaker 2:No, when he moves up, I get it, but Tank's not fighting at 140. 147? Tank and Tio are basically the same weight, right? 147 is welterweight. That's Terrence Crawford. Terrence Crawford was there a long time ago. Lower weight but Errol.
Speaker 1:Spence.
Speaker 2:Jr. Right, virgil Ortiz Jr. That's heavy, that's what I'm saying. And then, hydration-wise, if you put Boots, okay, they weigh in at 147. Boots is walking around at like 160, 165. He's going to be massive. So just to make it fair. But whatever, if TO dares to be great, fuck it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, fuck it.
Speaker 2:I hope TO knocks his ass out, I hope, to knocks Boots out as fucking Boots. How about that?
Speaker 1:Let's go, let's get it, somebody's going to get it, but nah all jokes aside, I do would love to see TO unify. I feel like it's going to be a great year of boxing man coming up man it already.
Speaker 2:it was a great year.
Speaker 1:It was a great year Since we started this podcast.
Speaker 2:It's been fucking on fire. We are manifesting all this from the boxing part and that turkey guy is helping, but still, yeah, but yeah, you know what? Again, huge shout out to Richardson Hitchens. We have another belt in New York, we have a boxing champion out of Brooklyn, which is great for the sport Great for New York.
Speaker 1:I'm always rooting for New York, all the New York guys. I like the way he talks too.
Speaker 2:He talks a lot of shit and he, he talks too. He talks a lot of shit and you know, he's a little like all fighters, he's a little in over his head, but still he, he talks his shit and it's it's awesome to see, um, yeah, that, that's really it 140.
Speaker 1:140 is still a fun division, but it's well deserved.
Speaker 2:The man to beat at 140 is tiafimo lopez jr. There's no other guy because devin haney we don't know what the fuck's going on with him. He got knocked out by gar. He's gone, gone with the wind.
Speaker 1:I've seen him training. You've seen him training.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I saw the clip, or whatever.
Speaker 1:I've been seeing a bunch of bullshit, Okay whatever, that's another fight too.
Speaker 2:Haney Tio is massive.
Speaker 1:And he looks like he just eating and training.
Speaker 2:He's big too. He needs to move up. I think Haney needs to move up, but he can't take a hit, so I don't think he should move up Haney's mentally. I hate to say it. Man, whatever you want, whatever your argument is, you don't got to agree with me. Disagree with me. Whether you think the juice Garcia was on the PEDs he was on helped him or not. I don't really think it did. I don't think it did Me neither.
Speaker 2:I mean it helped him train, maybe, but I don't think it helped him in the ring.
Speaker 1:I think he was going to. If that was going to happen, it was going to happen. Yeah, that hook.
Speaker 2:That being said, right Like. Whatever your opinion on that is, it's irrelevant what happened now with Haney? Like Haney's mentally done, he needs to fight me. He needs to fight me or you in there and beat our ass to get his confidence back. You know what I mean. He's mentally gone, dude. You can tell His dad's shit talk about Haney isn't even working anymore. His dad was the voice for him. He's mentally checked out. He's going to need two or three tune-ups to get that momentum back and then get back in the mix With the training-wise.
Speaker 1:they really setting the dad back a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got to chill.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we don't want to hear from you right now.
Speaker 2:But again, speaking of training-wise and father-son relationships, did you see TO and Reynoso training, did you see those?
Speaker 1:clips, oh nah.
Speaker 2:Go look up TO Fimo's clips of him training yeah and he said.
Speaker 2:He said, when we spoke to him we were like, what was the, what was the biggest difference in training with him? He said verbatim, uh, the repetition of of regular, like combos, like singular combos. And that's exactly what he's doing with reynoso. Dude. That that is my shout out to his pops too, because his pops could be a little hard-headed. It's my son, I'm the trainer of the year. He stepped outside his box and was like yo, we got to bring someone else in. Teo's gonna be a problem, dude. I'm not just saying that teo is gonna be a problem, I'm telling you what's going on here. I'm telling you teo is gonna be a problem, bro, like when you hit that point, man you gotta change up.
Speaker 2:Doing the same thing over and over again is crazy, right? Yeah, you got to change it up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's be great. He's going to be great, don't worry about it, man. Speaking of changing it up, I don't know how this became a TO.
Speaker 2:I don't know either it always does.
Speaker 1:This is not what he's talking about.
Speaker 2:Well, 140, he called out TO.
Speaker 1:So fuck it. I guess the TO takeover.
Speaker 2:You know, to does it, he just takes it. I'm just kidding, that's it. Oh man, listen. Oh shit, speaking of changing it up and all that, somebody that did not change it up and was supposed to, my guy, oscar Valdez versus. Manuel Navarrete Yo Navarrete, emmanuel Navarrete Yo Navarrete. So this year, in this year, two things, two fighters have been creeping up to becoming my favorite right Bam, obviously Bam is creeping up, he's my top five, but El Vaquero, the cowboy it translates to, is one of the most fun fighters to watch.
Speaker 1:How is he not entertaining?
Speaker 2:I don't like how sloppy he looks, but it's landing, it's not entertaining for me.
Speaker 1:Come on dude, it's not entertaining for me. He is throwing uppercuts, it's landing, it's just wild, but why?
Speaker 2:is it landing? Explain.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? It's awkward.
Speaker 2:Elon Musk. Elon Musk, we need you and your space programs to figure this out.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Why does Emmanuel LaFerrete land these punches on these fighters? I don't know.
Speaker 1:He's a dope. Who just beat him? Who beat him? He moved up Booyah Chick.
Speaker 2:Booyah Chick. That's crazy, right he?
Speaker 1:moved up in weight. And then he said, imagine somebody was really technical. That's nice, that would be.
Speaker 2:I mean, Oscar Valdez is pretty, technical though he's a technical fighter?
Speaker 1:He is not, it.
Speaker 2:So, going in, valdez said I need to stick with the game plan, I need to stick with the game plan, right, and that's his problem. What? Game plan he had. That's what I want to figure out. He was going to the body. He must have listened to the show because he was investing to the body early. He did get the pop shot knocked down in the first, but then he still was investing until about the fourth round when he got knocked down again. Who are you talking about, oscar?
Speaker 1:Valdez, that was. He was going to the body. Yeah, no, no so.
Speaker 2:Navarrete was when he needed to, but in the beginning Valdez was going to that body, going to that body. But I really do think that Navarrete's hand was hurt in that first fight because he was letting it fly this fight.
Speaker 1:He was letting that shit fly, he was, he was throwing, he was throwing. Chasing him down.
Speaker 2:Every punch was like Chasing them down. Every punch was like fucking bah, bah bah, bah, bah.
Speaker 1:And then that little fucking they come from anywhere. It's crazy, dude.
Speaker 2:It's nuts, it just rains, punches that and you're like what the fuck? And you can't train for that.
Speaker 1:And it's like how you got so much power with an awkward looking body? Yeah, like it's just weird.
Speaker 2:And he looks like he's so lackluster yeah, like just and he looks like he's so lackluster. He looked like he's out of shape and he don't give a fuck. He said, ah no, I'm not gonna train too hard.
Speaker 1:He just drunk like a whole bunch of coronas and then fucking went to fight.
Speaker 2:He said the hardest part was is making weight. He hates making weight, or whatever I can tell he? Probably drinks. I I said this to somebody I was talking to online I want to get drunk with that guy and then just go get me he definitely probably drinks.
Speaker 1:He looks like the type I was working on security. He looked like one of those motherfuckers. Those motherfuckers get drunk. What do you mean them? Just one of the people that it was like a Latino bar I was working at.
Speaker 2:Boy, they was getting faded and they would fight all day. Yeah, it's great, they just looked like one of those.
Speaker 1:They just want to get drunk all day.
Speaker 2:The cowboy man, don't fuck with the cowboy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they do the cowboy, they do the line dances Boy. He look like he gets faded.
Speaker 2:Dude, I want to bring him to a bar right and go pick a fight drinks he's like the drunken master that's how he fights. He's nasty If you train your style and you perfect your style.
Speaker 1:You can't have no training partner for him. How can you train for him?
Speaker 2:Nobody can. Nobody can Listen. Valdez is a warrior. He went out on his shield. That fucking body shot, oh my.
Speaker 1:God.
Speaker 2:That was beautiful.
Speaker 1:He took that from Canelo, though he didn't throw it like Canelo. That was beautiful. He took that from Canelo, though, yeah, but he didn't throw it like Canelo. He threw it, but he threw the uppercut. He threw the uppercut to the arm to open up the body, shot Wow. And then he well, unfortunately, valdez was throwing something with it too, Because it was wide open.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Straight liver, shot, done, dropped him, done, dropped him, done 18 seconds.
Speaker 2:He knocked his mouthpiece out before that. Yeah, yeah, the mouthpiece. I've never seen a mouthpiece fly that far. That shit went through.
Speaker 1:The ref didn't even know. I thought that was his veneers or something Fucking flying out, tifa's flying out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, that was a crazy shot. Yo Vaquero, you can't't. How do you not watch him like they promoted him wrong too? Man, he should be big time out here. Yeah, he's always, even with his losses, he's always in exciting fights and he's got that long hair like I don't know, I gotta smoke a blunt.
Speaker 1:What the fuck is going on. Yeah, this is crazy he's. I love it. What's good with your boy, though, valdez? What's up with him?
Speaker 2:so he's just war torn, bro. War torn, yeah, war. Do you see how sad he was after? He's war torn, bro? I think it's. I think he needs to retire. Honestly, it's time he's done. I think with his, with his background in boxing, right being that war torn, he should go into coaching, because coaching speaks both languages very well.
Speaker 1:No, he looked like. No, he looked like a commentator, though. Oh, yeah, that too. Yeah, that too, that too because he's well-spoken. Yo give him a job.
Speaker 2:Yeah, give us one too Well-spoken, very well-spoken.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he should definitely be like a commentator. I feel like he looked good just in a suit. Yeah, he looked good in a suit.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, I got you. I know what you mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah forced.
Speaker 2:So now going forward, though. What's next for Navarrete? What's Oshaki Foster man? So who you got in that fight, that's your boys.
Speaker 1:I love Oshaki but that's your boys. But you think Oshaki defense is going to hold up for this.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, willie fell again On the way. Nah, oshaki. Oshaki's definitely with Robson Canseo fighting him twice, definitely has experience with awkwardness, but this awkwardness by Navarrete, and I'll say this Oshaki's a little dude man, he's not a big guy, right.
Speaker 1:How tall is he, he's man.
Speaker 2:He's not a big guy, right? How tall is he? He's short. He ain't that big Like Oscar Valdez Probably Oscar Valdez's height. Two things, no, he don't, no way. Because when.
Speaker 1:I see Valdez, I feel like he's short. When I see Oshaki in the ring, especially with OK Sal Can say Sal. Ok say Sal Can say Sal. Okay say Sal. Okay Sal, that's a good name, okay Sal.
Speaker 2:Okay. I think he's like that. He's okay Sal, he's okay. Not can say Sal, okay, sal, okay Sal, yeah, that's good. So Valdez is 5'5 and a half. Oshaki Foster height. He's got to be like 5'7", 5'8", 5'8". Oh yeah, he's a little taller 5'8".
Speaker 1:He's a little big. I'm like no way. So what did you just about to say? So two things you got to reword yourself.
Speaker 2:He's taller than Navarrete. I'm wrong. I stand corrected, but I'll put it like this In the Valdez fight they weigh in the second time like fight day, just to see what your weight's at. There was no hydration clause or anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I heard that Navarrete weighed. I think it was 145. So they're fighting at 130, and Navarrete came in at 145. Valdez didn't want to weigh in. He decided not to. Do you have the option? Yeah, 145, bro, he's fighting at Welterweight. Like what the fuck? That shit is crazy.
Speaker 2:So he's like that's a big dude and with those long-ass punches he's a problem for Oshaki. I think Oshaki knows it too. In the beginning of the fight O said they were like who do you want to win, navarrete or Valdez? Obviously it would lead up to a match versus you and he's like oh you know, I want Valdez to win. Man, I want Oscar Valdez to win because he beat me in and I love Oshaki, but because he beat me in the amateurs, I got to get my get back and I think he's going to win. I think Valdez is going to win, basically saying nobody wants Navarrete, nobody, you can't train for that. You cannot train for that, and especially if his hand's healed or whatever, because those uppercuts bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the junk uppercuts.
Speaker 2:You know what beats? The Philly show Punches that Navarrete throws.
Speaker 1:That beats the Philly show. I mean they can be counted. Maybe Dude Somebody, that's nice.
Speaker 2:He's a problem If he cared a little bit.
Speaker 1:If Foster is who you say he is, he should have a field day with counting.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you this I'm rooting for Foster 100%. I'm not betting on him, I'm rooting for him. I can't bet against Navarrete, bro. He's just insane, especially if he makes weight clean. It's over, it's over. But that's it for El Vaquero the cowboy, the total opposite on the fight before this. Total opposite of Navarrete. Oh man, and now I have a lot to say about this. I'm going to let you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't got that much to say what the hell is going on, man, what is going on?
Speaker 2:man, this was a rematch card right, two rematches.
Speaker 1:A rematch that was so lackluster, Like boy, what was going on? It wasn't lackluster.
Speaker 2:It was good Early. Yeah, it was good until someone decided to stop.
Speaker 1:Elbow or something. I don't know what's going on. I don't know. He was complaining about elbow. I feel like the pressure burst pipes. So he put the pressure on him. I don't understand what happened.
Speaker 2:So what he's talking about. Obviously, if you didn't see, the fight is Robese Ramirez versus Rafael Espinosa. First fight was insane Two knockdowns Once Robese knocked down Espinosa.
Speaker 1:In the beginning, 12th round.
Speaker 2:Espinosa knocks out Robese and maybe the round of the year. It was a crazy 12th round, both fighting like true warriors. Espinosa edged him out on points Rematch. Boom. Here we are. Starts to pretty much lead into the same what we're thinking.
Speaker 1:This is why I'm saying lackluster. We didn't get that. We thought we was going to get that. I thought this was going to be better.
Speaker 2:You're right, Espinoza is like Fundora dude. He's the Fundora of 126.
Speaker 1:I was just thinking about that shit. He's like if Fundora weighed 126 pounds.
Speaker 2:It'd be him fighting on the inside. That tall, that long, Yep.
Speaker 1:Crazy, but that absolutely leaves him open and gets hit. Yeah, it leaves him open.
Speaker 2:Dude Robesi was cracking him and he wasn't really landing that clean espinoza on him. It looked like it to the naked eye but when you really watch it he landed a few shots, but nothing too clean. Robesi is fucking loading up that left and just cranking him and props props to espinoza.
Speaker 2:So many punches yeah, props to espinoza for staying there and taking it. And then I'm like, okay, good, I had. I had two parlays. I had ramirez on points right robesi on points. I had two parlays. I had Ramirez on points right, robesi on points in one of my parlays and then I had like a crazy, you know higher risk parlay and had Robesi knockout. So I'm seeing him land these shots, right, land these shots, and I'm like, oh, he could do it. If he keeps landing like this and he keeps throwing like that in the later rounds he's going to catch him. He's going to catch him while he's tired and knock him out. Here comes the sixth, right, sixth round. I'm like, okay, 12 seconds in.
Speaker 2:No mas, what, what the fuck, what the actual fuck. And listen, apparently they say his orbital socket was broken. They said that. But here's my problem. Okay, quit, I get it it. You know, your health is more important than all that. Your orbital socket's broken and this guy espinoza's fucking six, five, throwing crazy punches like I get it.
Speaker 1:Elbows quote unquote elbows.
Speaker 2:So I get it, I get it, stop right. But how you stopped, how you stopped is my problem. Tell your corner, be like yo, stop it, stop it. I. I don't want to go out there or or get punched and get knocked down right like let him hit you and just fake a knockdown if you, if you're that hurt, but 12 seconds in right, and you just go, no, no, the optics of that ironically optics and his eye sockets broken, the optics of that made it way worse, way worse. A guy with frosted tips is just quitting like that. He's in frosted tips.
Speaker 2:No bueno, he comes in on the high roller car like an old school whatever, looking like a freaking rock star and then you're going to quit. No, the optics of that was all wrong. I'm okay with him quitting, just how he did it. I do not like Get flurry of punches and take a knee. Not one punch 12 seconds into the beginning of the round and just no, no bueno, no bueno, amigo, no bueno.
Speaker 1:You think so, damn, it was sad man. It was sad. I really thought that fight was going to be the fight of the night.
Speaker 2:It was on its way to be dude. The second half was starting and he quit. And then another problem he's claiming elbow, elbow which, yeah, he's long and lanky. So, like it could happen, it's 2024, my guy, you better know what you're getting hit with, because they rolled back replays no elbows. No elbows, one clean, I saw one clean shot that made him see double vision. It's boxing. You're going to see double vision Again if he was actually hurt. This is all null and void. It's boxing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I see double vision. He's hurt, he's done.
Speaker 2:I see double vision when I fucking take a shit.
Speaker 1:Like it's boxing, just like Espinosa. He said he was like I felt like he felt my power and he just couldn't handle it. He felt my power and he just couldn't handle it. He felt that power, he felt the pressure, he felt the power.
Speaker 2:I think he was a little discouraged because he was landing one shot clean, clean, fucking shots and Espinoza just kept coming right in his face Whoa, whoa, wait a minute. I didn't mean coming with power shots right to his. No, flurries Coming with flurries right to his face.
Speaker 2:Still sounds crazy, yeah, but you know what I mean. It's boxing. Get your mind out of the gutter. He was coming at him with a lot of punches, still after getting hit with clean, clean shots, so I think that discouraged him a little bit, robessi. And then, once his eyes started to feel the pain and I guess it was broken, he was like all right, I'm out of here. Just the way he did it, dude, like you don't do that, quit on the stool, blame it on your corner.
Speaker 1:That looks so bad.
Speaker 2:Blame it on the child that looks so bad. That looks so head flame on the act, act now.
Speaker 1:Now I will say this though, rafael espinoza, right at 126 yeah, what's next?
Speaker 2:featherweight? He's damn how tall is he.
Speaker 1:Six one, six one bro at that fighting at that weight yeah oh my, what so I was gonna say bro, go somewhere, move up, bro, what is wrong?
Speaker 2:so the four? I don't understand the four belt holders at that weight, right Wait what he's 6'0".
Speaker 1:I'm looking at the size difference. It's crazy, wild, way crazy. But 126? I never really noticed that they were playing at that weight.
Speaker 2:That's Shushu's weight Insane. So he's the wbo champ right six one. I'm gonna read something to you real quick ibf angelo, angelo, leo, right five six. Wba nick ball.
Speaker 1:We love nick oh my god, he's like four, nine five two, ray vargas.
Speaker 2:Ray vargas is close. Five eight, still still a whole lot shorter at five eight than than Espinoza. And then you got the contenders right. The contenders Bruce Carrington, 5'8", 5'8". Steven Fulton oh my God, he literally 5'6". He's a problem, espinoza is a problem. I will say this though, and again I'm not being biased a cheat code at them at that weight you know who I think gives him a problem?
Speaker 1:shushu yeah, well, we already knew he's gonna say shushu or ray vargas, because ray.
Speaker 2:But ray vargas the way he bangs is like, leaves himself open. Shushu in the pocket is slick, I know he. He fought the the bigger dude and didn't look as good as we're used to seeing. But versus a guy like Espinoza at 6'1", who's that tall and gets hit in the pocket like that right, you know who Shushu's sparring partner is and he sparred before Robese. If Robese's hitting this guy clean, I think Shushu could catch him with some shit.
Speaker 1:You know what else I got? I got two that could probably give him some problems. Who Nick Ball? Nah, Nick.
Speaker 2:Ball, nick Ball, giving him problems.
Speaker 1:Nah, I'm sorry, nick Ball might drop him. Nah, he might catch him with something.
Speaker 2:Nah, I'm telling you. I'm telling you, based off what?
Speaker 1:The style, because he throws a lot of punches and Nick Ball is going to come in with that high guard, he's 5'2" bro.
Speaker 2:I mean he would win on points 6'1", but he might catch him 6'1".
Speaker 1:Yeah, he might give him some work man. Mike Tyson gave Matt heavyweight work. Man. Mike Tyson was the lowest dude bro in that weight class. I'm telling you he's like a little Mike Tyson versus him 6'1 at 126. Nick Ball gave him some work Okay.
Speaker 2:Hopefully we get to see it, but I was going to say, nick, I think Nick Ball is going to give him some work.
Speaker 1:I think Nick Ball is probably the easiest. He don't back down, no, he don't. So he's not going to be on the front foot.
Speaker 2:But if Espinosa just boxes him and just jabs the whole fucking fight or just goes. I doubt he'd do that. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:He's not going to. He's going to try to fight him. 5-2 is fucking. Nick Bull is going to land something. All right, I'm trying to tell you I'm putting my money on Nick Bull if they fight.
Speaker 2:I hope they do I mean ESPN the more likely fight is Vargas or Carrington. Because of ESPN, that's a tough fight for anybody, though they're all good fights?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because he's fucking. That's crazy that he's 6'1", 6'1" fighting at 126. Grow the fuck up, grow the fuck up, eat something. How are you making weight?
Speaker 2:It. That's crazy, it's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1:I don't even know what else is frail?
Speaker 2:he's. He's not as ballsy as fundora, though like fundora, just fucking. He's like yeah, hit me like espinoza is a little smarter oh, but don't look like um wimby wimby a fucking yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, oh that you see his toes, bro. There's like a picture somewhere.
Speaker 1:Why you got why?
Speaker 2:There's a picture of his feet somewhere.
Speaker 1:Why you?
Speaker 2:watching his toes, it was disgusting.
Speaker 1:Weird, go Google Wimby's toes bro. Ew, you nasty freak.
Speaker 2:Why you, looking at His toes are like 6'1". He got six one toes. You're a freak boy. Listen, if Espinoza trains right for Nick Ball and sticks to the plan, he'll wax him.
Speaker 1:Nah, nick Ball, I like Nick Ball, but nah, nick Ball is nasty boy.
Speaker 2:That's really it.
Speaker 1:I lost because of fucking.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go back to what we were talking about Because of fucking. I'm going to go back to what we were talking about, but because somebody we already previewed, because of Robese. I lost so many bets, man, because of this fucking guy. I had two parlays that hit Hitchens' decision, bang hits. Now I'm like all right, we're cooking. I had Robese's decision right and the jury's still out whether he would have won or not, but I feel like he was doing enough to make the rounds close with those huge shots. He was landing and Espinoza was going to peter out at some point, so I thought that fight was on the way he was landing.
Speaker 1:He was just throwing punches.
Speaker 2:And I had Navarrete knockout. So everything hits except for one. And then I chase right. So now I'm chasing.
Speaker 1:Oh, I've been doing that.
Speaker 2:I'm like all right, so the Navarrete fights on. I know my parlay is squashed, so I'm like all right, I'm going to bet Navarrete knockout 7 through 12 and Navarrete knockout 7 and 8, right? So if it hits 7 through 12, I'm good.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah 18 seconds left. In the sixth he lands that body shot 18 fucking seconds. Boom Chases over, Valdez goes. But that's how this is credit to Valdez Valdez. Is this tough where I was like wait, it's Valdez man, he might just get up and start the next round. I just need you to start the next round. You know the end is near, but nah, that liver shot was too clean, he was not getting up man Beautiful up he hit the arm Boom.
Speaker 1:Came around the other side.
Speaker 2:That was a good little Saturday though.
Speaker 1:I watched boxing like all day I was knocked out. I woke up, you hit me, no, you hit me up. I'm like, oh shit, it is boxing on. I forgot because who's at the cheerleading shit all weekend. Yeah well, this kid's a cheerleader In Baltimore. I went to. I forgot because who's at the cheerleading shit all weekend.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, this kid's a cheerleader.
Speaker 1:In Baltimore and I went to go see Tank.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you went to the gym.
Speaker 1:Nah, I didn't go. It's not open on the weekends.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:I didn't go check. I didn't even move my car. We walked everywhere. We didn't even go nowhere.
Speaker 2:Did you eat? What did you eat? Baltimore got good food. Is it known for food? Really, I didn't eat nothing really. It's like city food. Right, they probably got good pizza.
Speaker 1:They're supposed to have good seafood, oh because by the water. Yeah, but I didn't go to a sea school, so I want to like travel the states.
Speaker 2:Man, I've been like everywhere overseas. I want to travel the states.
Speaker 1:I want to go to cool states we need to go to some states and watch some fights. Yeah, that too.
Speaker 2:I'm scared, though, huh oh yeah, because you're not home. Not home, man coming coming from my head. Just kidding, I'll be all right, I'm not scared, scared like that they're gonna know you everywhere for espn.
Speaker 1:You're gonna be a tire. What the fuck this guy's eating pizza with us again.
Speaker 2:What the fuck is this?
Speaker 1:guy. Oh yeah, I was eating pizza with him. I hope nobody watched this because we was deaf. Rejected with y'all, thank you. Shout out to ESPN for honoring.
Speaker 2:Thank you, we are honorary ESPN. We are New York paid fans Paid fans.
Speaker 1:They paid us to be in the front row to make all the noise I wish they did that, we just make the noise because we're degenerates, but I wish they did.
Speaker 2:I'm crying. Oh, speaking of that, though, my wife texted me the other day a screenshot and she's like Clarissa Shields is coming out with a movie, and then she was like I sent it to you. She had Christmas Day, she's coming out with a movie about her life. I'm kind of interested in that. I'd watch it. And then she's like she followed up with Willie. Better go see it, he owes her one she was funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to see it. I should take my daughter to go see it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it might be rated R, though, for what.
Speaker 1:I don't know what are you what the hell she began? What she was?
Speaker 2:doing? She's been shaking her butt a lot. Do you see her Instagram?
Speaker 1:She's been on Mad 21s and shit.
Speaker 2:What's that?
Speaker 1:The Dayton shit on. Youtube. They hired her. She was on a couple of those. Did you DM her? No, I did. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2:Anyway, back to regular boxing. We have, we came up quick. We're going to just talk about it because I don't know if we're going to do a show next week.
Speaker 1:We might We'll see, we'll see again.
Speaker 2:Tyson Fury, Oleksandr Usyk too, for heavyweight supremacy. It's not for the IBF, so it's not undisputed, but it is for the best heavyweight, Whoever wins this fight is the best heavyweight at the moment.
Speaker 1:What do you think? Fury Usyk 2. Oh, because of one of the belts. Yeah, he didn't take a mandatory.
Speaker 2:Usyk didn't do his mandatory to take the rematch, that's so corny, he's so corny, but it got Daniel Dubois his first belt with the Joshua. Yeah, that my boy Dubois so who do you got in this fight man, let's talk about it? Let's talk about it. What do you got Usyk Fury too. I was fucking.
Speaker 1:I'm watching this fight. We already know who you got. I'm going to sit here and I just want to remind the listeners that we have that Puma Wedding was that day. Yes, and he really said I do while watching the fight. I did. I did I am loyal.
Speaker 2:It's a good memory. Even my dad was like, oh damn, who the hell is that? Who's that big, tall, bald white guy? Even my dad was like, oh damn, who the hell is that?
Speaker 1:Who's that big, tall, bald white guy? So that was like that's an interesting story that you would never forget, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because the fight got pushed to my wedding date. My wife was pissed because I looked at her and I tried to change the wedding date.
Speaker 2:You tried to change the wedding date. I inquired, I inquired and it got shot down quick and I just kept it moving. Damn, I inquired and it got shot down quick and I just kept it moving. But thanks to streaming and whatnot and cell phones and technology, I was able to watch it. I posted a little picture. That being said, this fight I am watching, I'm probably going to throw a fight party here. It'll be an earlier fight, probably 6 or 7 pm, because it's in Dubois, not Dubois when is it?
Speaker 1:Where is it?
Speaker 2:Where is it Fucking? Saudi, saudi, it's in Saudi, same time, though, I think Same time as in Dubois.
Speaker 1:There's going to be non-drinking fans.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot of non-drinking Englishmen. But hey, this is one of those fights where the first fight comes right, the first fight, and I said it. You can roll the tape, go back to the archives 50 episodes now Actually, we have more than 50, but 50 just one-on-one episodes. I was against Fury. I was like Usyk's going to beat Fury, usyk's going to beat Fury. Fury was one of my favorite fighters. I thought Fury was ducking him and I believe he was ducking him because he knew I was like Usyk's going to beat Fury.
Speaker 2:Fury said something in the lead up to this fight that changed my opinion. Here we go. No, no, he did. He changed it. I'm backing Fury in this one for two reasons. First reason is I'm watching them interact and talk and Fury was like he was sincere. He looked sincere anyway, and he was like everyone's talking, everyone's talking that he's hard to hit. He's hard to hit, hardest man to hit. Oh, slippery huh. I started hitting, I was hitting him. I was hitting him like crazy to the body. I'm hitting him and and he was, he was hitting him you sound like him, I don't know, like a gypsy ah gypsy king?
Speaker 2:no, but he was. He was hitting him and tagging him and I was shocked while I was in my suit, my little white wedding suit. I was shocked that he was and I I was like holy shit, he's hitting him Now. Mind you, usyk was also hitting Fury. Yeah, but the second reason is after that fight Usyk's tone changed and Usyk was getting carried out. He literally left it all on the line. His legs were gone, he could barely walk. His face was busted up. I've never seen Usyk's face that busted up. He said too, he goes verbatim, not verbatim, but he was like I don't want to be heavyweight anymore After this next rematch. I have to fight, I want to go back down because heavyweight is too much for me. He has trouble making heavyweight and maintaining that weight and he probably doesn't move as good as he would. That 10, 15 pounds. Also, fury's looking big, I think Fury's coming in big.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's going to come in heavy Bearded Fury too. I don't think he's like I'm coming in heavy this man's going to hit me. Try to knock me out, but I'm going to hit him too. I'm telling you, man, I think Fury takes this one. They're getting paid. I'm telling you, bro, man, I think Fury takes this one, I'm betting Fury.
Speaker 1:I'm betting a better boxer.
Speaker 2:Usyk is, I guess, the better boxer. Yeah, but Fury was playing around that fight. He literally was playing around. I think he's serious now. Oh man, he lost. Don't get me wrong, I'm not, like I said, playing around you what?
Speaker 1:Oh, Like you don. You don't do that with Usyk, that's just his character.
Speaker 2:I've never seen Usyk get hit that much, bro. I've never seen Usyk get hit that much. If he come in heavier, then that's a game changer. Usyk was getting tagged up, dude. I've never seen him get hit like that. He even stunt. He hit him with an uppercut. That uppercut I'm surprised that didn't in rematches is pretty damn good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, I'm excited to see this. It was a great first fight.
Speaker 2:It was back and forth. It was a great fight on my phone.
Speaker 1:Well, I wasn't here, so what you think I was suffering and I wasn't invited to the wedding.
Speaker 2:Nobody was, nobody was. It was a very small wedding. Nobody't invited to the wedding Nobody was Nobody, was Very small wedding. Nobody was invited to the wedding. Let the record state that, hey, it's not for undisputed, but it's for the best heavyweight. We're getting two of the best. This determines who the best heavyweight is, and we know Nobody was. That's it, man. After that, we got your guy. Well, give me your take on the fight, fuck let's back up.
Speaker 1:We're talking about wedding bells. I mean, we're going to end up talking about it anyway.
Speaker 2:No, I don't know if we're going to record. Next week it's Christmas December.
Speaker 1:Damn, it's flying.
Speaker 2:Yo, bro, it's fucking December 10th. I think, yeah, I bro, it's fucking december 10th. I think, yeah, I ain't nobody gift.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I didn't get one either it's december 9th, damn um, when is christmas? Oh well, you know, I got usic. I love usic man, the way he moved, man, he's just fucking different.
Speaker 2:But what can he do different in this fight like?
Speaker 1:like fury do different.
Speaker 2:He could put on weight, he lean on him, he could fucking make it dirty, that's what he's going to do regardless. He didn't do that last fight.
Speaker 1:He did. He was leaning on him, he was tagging him, he was leaning on him.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you bro, put your money on Fury this fight. He might be right.
Speaker 1:Who knows, I don't even care. To be honest, this is a great fight to watch.
Speaker 2:Who wins?
Speaker 1:I really don't care who wins.
Speaker 2:My Fury Fire came back. He took that out.
Speaker 1:I just think Usyk is the better fighter in that he's pound for pound man he is. So I think.
Speaker 2:He's a better slick boxer.
Speaker 1:He's definitely the better boxer. He moves. I love it Everything he does. You like, fury? I don't really care.
Speaker 2:No, I started to hate Fury because this Usyk fight should have happened, like two years ago.
Speaker 1:Maybe he would have been a different result.
Speaker 2:Maybe, but Fury was for a reason and I stand by it was ducking him because he knew. But now Fury, I think the way Fury was hitting him surprised Fury. I think Fury was like holy shit, wait a minute. If I wasn't so damn tired I could really fuck this guy up. But it is what it is, hey man.
Speaker 1:Great fight. It's sad that it's not undisputed. It feels like, yeah well stupid. It don't feel the same, no more.
Speaker 2:Dumbass, ibf, it don't feel the same. No more it don't matter, it's still the best heavyweight fighting the best heavyweight, nah definitely we can't again.
Speaker 1:then what are you going to say?
Speaker 2:Usyk beats him.
Speaker 1:That's it.
Speaker 2:Retire, fury, you're done, or there's one fight still that makes massive amounts of money. Joshua Fury makes massive amounts of money.
Speaker 1:Beat Joshua ass Fury.
Speaker 2:Thank you yeah he will, he will. Joshua's got power, but his confidence is all.
Speaker 1:He's basically like Devin Haney right now and I hope Usyk goes down, leaves all the belts for.
Speaker 2:Dubai, Dubai, got a good hard fight on his hands coming up man Joseph Parker.
Speaker 1:Joseph Parker, a slick boxer man, he's going to beat Joseph booty. I don't know, man, I don't know he's going to beat that boy.
Speaker 2:There's a good fight, though you know what a good fight, if Usyk goes back down, is Zerto Gilberto Ramirez.
Speaker 1:Zerto, the one I was just seeing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, him versus Usyk is a pretty good fight, that's a great fight.
Speaker 1:That's a great fight. I think that's a great talented fight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like that one.
Speaker 1:Skill. I like that one Movement. That's a great fight and I should be a lot of things.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:Just stuck here in a basement.
Speaker 2:Then we got this next year. Oh well, all right, so it's the end of the year. We should have prepped for this, but we didn't. Because we're idiots. We're not in the basement, we're in the studio, the spa and boxing headquarters. Please don't disrespect it. Thank you, what was? And if it takes you a minute, I'll give you a minute. What was your favorite fight of the year?
Speaker 1:Oh my God, Shit. It's kind of crazy. Is it bias? Is it bias because I was there?
Speaker 2:I'll give you my favorite. Go ahead. I'll give you my favorite, but go ahead. No, okay, the best fight of the year.
Speaker 1:Not the best. Your favorite, my favorite fight of the year. I don't want to be biased or something. I'm not going to say that one. I would say, oh shit.
Speaker 2:What is going on Did?
Speaker 1:you have a clip to play too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't play it, it's whatever, because we was there.
Speaker 1:I think I had to meet the Mikayla fight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maya Ryan.
Speaker 1:That was fucking crazy.
Speaker 2:Maya Ryan really.
Speaker 1:Yo was it. That was the craziest fight. It was the craziest fight. It was a great fight. That was a great fucking fight. And I don't know because we was there that it felt different.
Speaker 2:So mine is also a female fight. It's not my favorite, michaela Meyer, but it's my 1A Favorite fight and it was the rematch and it just happened on the stupid.
Speaker 1:Mike.
Speaker 2:Tyson card Serrano Katie Taylor man.
Speaker 1:That was your favorite fight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was my favorite fight of the year. I know there was great fights all over the place, but Katie, taylor Serrano, bro, that had everybody like it had fans that don't even like boxing talking about him Like it was great.
Speaker 1:I feel like it was more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we should have prepped for this shit, so I could actually look back and see what the fuck happened. You know what. Fuck that we're not even going to talk. I'm going to edit this shit out. We're going to do a. I'm gonna edit this shit out. We're gonna do A little Merry Christmas Fucking Talk after we got it. I got it. Okay, going forward, going forward.
Speaker 1:I like what you're going.
Speaker 2:I see what you're thinking yeah, I got a vision. Puma has a vision. I believe I can fly.
Speaker 1:You can definitely clip that whole part, yeah. We'll figure it out Favorite fights I got you. You started this shit.
Speaker 2:We going, huh, we going to Brooklyn.
Speaker 1:To Brooklyn, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know, gervonta. Yo, I looked at nosebleed seats. We're not going to Brooklyn. Yo, we are going to go to Brooklyn, though We'll talk, but we're not going to the fight. Yo, they want $300. $300 a piece For nosebleeds Like not even nosebleeds Like nasal cavity, they want nasal. I'm like what the fuck? Yo, ringside, like where we usually sit, yeah, 5 G's, 3 to 5 G's a person yeah, resale, I should've got, I should've got, but still two tickets.
Speaker 1:I should've got like two tickets to resale.
Speaker 2:I'm hoping I get a Christmas gift. If I get a Christmas gift, we'll go but. If it's not. If you're going, sit ringside you might as well watch it on TV. It's way better Next to all the famous people. Not even that, though.
Speaker 1:You feel the fight when you're ringside, you know what I mean You're like, oh man, even the shitty fights.
Speaker 2:You're like, damn, you just feel good about yourself. Well you felt good, that's for sure. Dude was crawling.
Speaker 1:What I still don't remember that I don't know what you're talking about, bro. Hey, I was falling over seats and shit, doing a flip into the fucking arena.
Speaker 2:Yo, he did a somersault. Yo, we're getting a little wild, let's close it out. Listen, it was a great weekend of boxing. It's December. Shit slows down a little bit next week. But right back up on the I think it's the 21st or the 22nd we have heavyweight glory. Tyson fury verse, alexander usik for heavyweight immortality. Right, is that that's the right word for it? I think so. I don't know, we're trying to get to it. I'm just saying, like, hold on, let's just look at that whole event. Who's on there? Oh yeah, bujacek versus Ishmael Davis. We get to see him again. Bujacek comes back. He's always tough as shit. And Ishma, the money is going to usic and fury. But booyah check I might parlay some shit with that. We got booyah check. I think booyah check knockout is is easy money in that versus ishmael davis, or that. That wasn't supposed to be ishmael too. You know who that was supposed to be. Ishmael too. You know who that was supposed to be, it got canceled.
Speaker 2:Oh Guess.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 2:I'll give you a hint, terrence Crawford it wasn't supposed to be Terrence. Crawford Wait what? The fight got canceled. It was supposed to be Israel Madrimov Madrimov was going to fight him, and then Virgil Ortiz Jr. That was like breaking news everywhere.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Madrimov is a gangster. Apparently, he got bronchitis though. So to check Madrimov, that would have been fight of the year already in fucking no December it would have stole it, but whatever it is what it is, they're not going to fight. Hey, that's it. That's all I got. Really, you got anything?
Speaker 1:Nah, nothing, I'm definitely looking it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, We'll talk about that. We'll talk about that. I got you Yo, we're going to close the show out. It's Christmas Holidays for anyone that doesn't celebrate Christmas, and damn 50 episodes bro 50 more 50 episodes Thank you to all three of our followers and subscribers. 50 episodes Thank you to all three of our followers and subscribers. But, more importantly, thank you to the fighters that we did interviews with. Those are pretty cool. Follow us on everything. Check us out Boxing.
Speaker 1:I like your hat Stone cold.
Speaker 2:Oh, I got a stone cold hat on you, that's fine.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2:You just noticed that. Yeah, it's about to take it off my head, zitchin.
Speaker 1:um, we're out that's all we got. I think it looked like your head the takeover continues.
Speaker 2:The takeover continues. What do you mean? Oh, because it's a bald skull. It looks like my head. Fuck you, we're out. Peace y'all.