THE SPAR-INN

Espresso Martinis, A Day Job, Promoters and Fight Night Buzz w/ Pro Ranked Boxer Alex "El Toro" Vargas

PUMA AND WILLIE

What happens when you try to balance the life of a boxer with a day job? Our guest, Alex "El Toro" Vargas, knows all about this juggling act. Celebrate with us as Alex becomes our first two-time guest on The Spar-Inn Boxing Podcast. We dive into his stories about the challenges of scheduling fights around work constraints and the frustration of watching others grab the spotlight on major fight cards. Listen in as Alex shares the unwavering support he receives from his Long Island fans and the excitement of potentially fighting at renowned venues like MSG.

And of course, no boxing podcast is complete without a nod to the spectacle that is Jake Paul. We unpack his polarizing presence in the boxing world, acknowledging his promotional prowess while questioning his legitimacy as a fighter. With highlights from recent matches like Amanda Serrano vs. Katie Taylor and the latest buzz around a potential Jake Paul vs. Ryan Garcia bout, there's plenty of fight talk to get you fired up. From espresso martini-fueled fight parties to the camaraderie and community in boxing, this episode is a spirited celebration of the sport we love.

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Speaker 1:

It's time for the main event. It's the Sparin' Podcast. Oh, it's a knockout.

Speaker 2:

Yo, what is going on? Welcome to episode 48 of the Sparin' Boxing Podcast. Here with Willie and a very special guest, our first two-time sparring champion, Alex El Toro Vargas. Doesn't really need an introduction. What's going on, man?

Speaker 3:

What's up, man Chilling.

Speaker 2:

How's everything going?

Speaker 3:

Good.

Speaker 2:

Actually, let me rephrase that what is going on, man? Where have you been? Why haven't we seen you in the ring? Let's just get right into it, oh man. Yeahphrase that what is going on, man? Where have you been? Why haven't we seen you in the ring? Let's just get right into it, oh man, yeah, you're getting into that.

Speaker 3:

So pretty much as far as getting in the ring, it's just kind of like the negotiations aren't going good. I'm like because I got a job, you know yeah.

Speaker 2:

I see the shirt. Those of you that forgot, he is one of New York's. What is it finest right? Or is it bravest, Suffix, finest? No, that's SDNY. They say something like that, Suffix finest, yeah, suffix, finest.

Speaker 1:

They where the money at.

Speaker 2:

They got my cousins, it's all right, it's all right, all my cousins it's all right, so.

Speaker 3:

So what is it like the dates and stuff, or is it just it's more like so, after I got the ranking of like 14, uh?

Speaker 2:

in the world by wba.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I was like all right, we got to get like a different opportunity or a different location to fight at, and not the paramount. It's like I kind of outgrew it or whatever, and I get the route they want to take me is like, oh, you fight at the paramount again and then you bump in the top 10 in the rankings, which I completely get, but I can't do it, like the job won't get me off for for that, like that fight, and I'm like doing both, like working and training. I'm on midnights now too it's just it's a lot.

Speaker 3:

And then I gotta hope that I'm off that that night of the fight. Um, yeah, and then, like I said, competing against like these guys at this level now I'm not coming in 100 and I know that like I'll prepare as much as I can but I get stuck at work, I won't eat the same time, train at like my last fight, like I was training at like 1 am because I get stuck at work, go back in at like 5, 30, not get the rest, the nutrition and go spar and then just keep doing that like I'm willing to do it. But the thing is like is I can't get off for those fights. I get it If they're going to give me off.

Speaker 3:

And then people are understanding of it. It's like okay, he's on ESPN Plus, on the undercard at the Garden. It's like easy, all right, eight to ten weeks off, you could just train and focus on that. But for the Paramount we can't. So we're talking again tomorrow, actually just saying we can, but for the Paramount we can't. So we're talking again tomorrow, actually just saying like we can't do the Paramount, like we need to be on an undercard or something. And then it's frustrating too when you see guys that, like you've sparred with, or aren't signed or aren't undefeated, don't have a belt, no world ranking and they're somehow on the under card at top rank on ESPN. I know.

Speaker 2:

We've talked, we've talked. I know We've messaged back and forth and you're like oh, I sparred him, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like oh, where are you at?

Speaker 3:

I know, and I would sell a lot of tickets there too like a lot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, especially like the hulu theater so willie and I have made our name made our names known at the hulu theater and we're itching to cheer for you oh man what yeah, we, uh, we get a little wild there what we are, man, we might get kicked out that day.

Speaker 2:

We definitely might get kicked out that day and and we at the paramount too, but the paramount's a little more homey. You know you don't want to shit where you eat, but the city, you know it's like anything goes, so we get a little crazy yeah, yeah, like my first fight at the paramount I don't think you were at that one when I first got on the job.

Speaker 3:

That was insane, like that was actually like I couldn't even hear like the announcer in the ring, like because it was my first time on the job and I had off and then everyone took off to go. That was nuts. But like now it's like and my exposure there I've grown as much as I could.

Speaker 2:

I've got to be seen on ESPN now or something like that, and it doesn't make sense because a lot of the Long Island guys that fight and I'm not going to name names because I'm not trying to throw shade at anyone and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way but a lot of Long Island guys that fight aren't as popular as you and half the Hulu theater is sold out with Long Island people cheering for them and stuff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's a whole lot of them.

Speaker 2:

So it's like obviously you get a lot of city people because it's in New York City, but I'd say half, arguably there's a lot of boxing fans out there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's half Long.

Speaker 3:

Island and then between NYPD and, like they'd already said, like they'd be taking buses out there taking the train.

Speaker 2:

Everybody yeah. So, It'd be insane. Like an Islanders, game. Yeah that's basically what it'd be like it's all the Islander Rangers fans coming for El Toro.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it would be nuts. I remember me and Rashad Mahdi when we fought in the finals of the Ringmasters like we sold out like the whole Hulu theater.

Speaker 2:

Like the whole hulu theater. It's like as that was, and that was ringmasters, yeah, yeah, and then obviously you wouldn't be headlining yet, so it'd be on an undercard, so it would be packed out. It would be crazy yeah, it'd be good.

Speaker 3:

And then the other, they're all for. They'd offer me, like michelle rivera, I'm like all right, so like you got three weeks, like what ah, what come on, they just offered me um I would play undisputed, like that'll be three weeks.

Speaker 1:

I can't get no training in it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah and then the video game knows they offered me dan uh danny or lelucin yelusinov, something like that okay uh, whatever, like two times he was like olympical medalist and won the world's 12 and 0. They're like, if I hand, you don't even you don't even need to know.

Speaker 2:

You don't even need to know anything about him.

Speaker 3:

His last name ends in nav, yeah, which means he's tough shit so you gotta come ready yeah, they were just like uh, yeah, go up to weight classes. Um, oh, they want you to go to kazakhstan to fight him in his home country and just completely lowballed me money. I'm like this is insane. I'm not even asking for more money, I just want so I can get off. I have a job. That's the only reason. Because I have a job, I can get off.

Speaker 1:

They don't understand that. You already make money. You're the highest paid in New York.

Speaker 3:

I'm not even asking for it. Just get me like that exposure, just espn, and then I'll have off where I could train and just focus solely on boxing, not worrying about chasing people around and drunk people friday, saturday, and then go to train like it doesn't. It's I, I do my best but in reality, like I'm not gonna come in 100 doing doing both yeah, and that's what's.

Speaker 2:

And the fact that you acknowledge that and you want to come in at 100 is good on you, because and this is like the side- you don't have to do this yeah, like he's like what. That's true too you don't have to.

Speaker 1:

You don't have to box, you box because you love boxing yeah.

Speaker 3:

I love my job, but I want to fight.

Speaker 2:

I just need just that Enough enough and without hating on your promotion or whatever, but they should acknowledge that you're the Long Island guy. You're the Long Island boxing guy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, right now they need to.

Speaker 2:

But I mean whatever. This is the side of boxing, boxing though, that people don't see, Like they think it's just all easy squeezy but contracts and behind the scenes, the working man.

Speaker 3:

Like he's still got to pay bills, like you got a life and you're a human.

Speaker 2:

You get depressed, you get angry. You need sleep. You're on midnights. It's like a whole slew of things.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, oh my God, it's crazy. Yeah, I remember one day at work it was like a crazy rainstorm and I was walking down like some steps and I slipped and went flying from like the top step to the bottom. Oh my God. Flamed my back. My radio went flying Tons of pain and I just knew I had to wake up and spar Richard Comey at like 7 am and I'm just all banged up. I have a line across my back and I'm like this is like.

Speaker 1:

That's just what comes with it. The schedule sparred too not only that.

Speaker 2:

Not only that, like people don't realize, like people think of cops, right, and they think like you're just running around chasing bad guys, you should be in great shape, but like 10 hours of the day you're sitting in a car and then the other two hours maybe you're getting out running around and out of nowhere you're sprinting after it's not like people, it's not like the tv shows you're literally getting hemorrhoids.

Speaker 1:

We can tell.

Speaker 3:

We can tell the goddamn donut everything's different too, but like, just the gun belt alone is like whatever on your you have pinching your love handles, I'm like, yeah, and then I go train and my back's all locked up, yeah.

Speaker 2:

People don't realize how stiff it's basically like a road trip every day, like 10-hour road trip every day.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Listen, man, stay positive, because you still are a name. I know you're calling people out on social social media. There's a, there's a special character in boxing that I know you called out.

Speaker 3:

Uh, roly, yeah roly oh man, yeah, what transpired with that how did that?

Speaker 2:

how did that happen? Did you guys spar? Were you in his camp or something, or I?

Speaker 3:

know not, I was supposed to go spar him actually when he was getting ready for a tank, okay, um, I forgot what happened. I think he fought like a week before me or something. Like just the timing didn't line up and it was like I didn't have enough notice to be like, oh, can I get off for this kind of thing Because I just got another job, yeah, you got to go to Vegas, right, and then Uh-oh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was one of those things. And then I just saw him fight and like, stylistically, a big, be a good fight, because yeah, he's just very like one way strong dude and big, big for his weight, but I mean I, I'd like that fight he's tough too.

Speaker 2:

People think, because tank davis knocked his face off, that he's just a weak, but he could take a punt. That punt, he got hit with a clean shot. It is what it is.

Speaker 3:

He was doing good. I thought he was doing good yeah yeah, that fight made him better.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, Awkward. Yeah, he liked to strong handle people.

Speaker 2:

And promotion-wise, you get under his skin.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and then it would sell because every cop in the country would hate him because he'd just be.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Even if they don't watch boxing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, now, has he done that in the past, or did that just? That's just your assumption, that he's just like a.

Speaker 3:

He said something in an interview I saw one time. I forgot exactly what.

Speaker 2:

And it just.

Speaker 3:

It was kind of like the last guy I fought that put on Instagram.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I saw it. He called you a pig or whatever.

Speaker 3:

Yeah you're a pig, you're scared this and that it would be just the same thing, just Rolly doing it, it would be ten times funnier.

Speaker 2:

And for the record, there's like to make fun of cops. It's very easy. Calling someone a pig is very uncreative. It could have come up as a whole.

Speaker 3:

I get called that at work, yeah like very unfair.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, I mean that'd be great at MSG on an undercard rollie, like imagine that that would be nuts.

Speaker 3:

But, like, just like, I've been inactive for months now. So, like I said, just get back in the ring at like I said on an undercard, and that's it. That'll bump me up right there. I'll be right in the top ten probably, and then I'll be able to to get that opportunity. I get that. I need, like one more fight.

Speaker 2:

yeah, it's just like at this point now at this point you might even need like a tune-up. In a sense, you were on a roll there yeah you got in the rankings, you cracked the top 20, you were close to 10 and then now it just hit like a stalemate. So you might need something else. What the hell do I know? But I mean just common sense would say you need just to get, knock the rust off and whatnot yeah, I, I wouldn't mind that either, I guess just not in, not in kazakhstan not in kazakhstan.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's not a step up, yeah like a man.

Speaker 2:

What were?

Speaker 3:

you thinking that's like the real rocky movie? That would be like some Some bullshit-ass money going overseas.

Speaker 2:

Who knows if you could even get there what? Who knows if I'd make it back?

Speaker 1:

Yeah or that, what the fuck? Especially if you win right, you ain't gonna, I'm not coming back, you ain't laying your ass, it would be like Rocky vs freaking Drago.

Speaker 3:

Like I'll sign you I mean, this is crazy.

Speaker 2:

I'm like it would be. It would be cool to meet Triple G, though.

Speaker 3:

Not in 2024.

Speaker 1:

Not in 2025.

Speaker 2:

It'd be cool, it'd be cool to meet him in America.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, go to Kazakhstan.

Speaker 2:

That's great, that's that might be like that, that like we got to chop that up and like put that out there, because people don't see that Like you get offered these deals that are just like unreal.

Speaker 3:

Kazakhstan yeah, kazakhstan to his hometown main event, go up and go up like two main event, though.

Speaker 1:

Hold up the main event sounds good. Yeah, yeah, sounds good what?

Speaker 2:

what time would that even air?

Speaker 3:

like 4 am I don't even know the time difference. I'm like I know neither I don't even know, like the, how long the flight is. I was just thinking I'm like I know me neither. I don't even know, like, how long the flight is. I was just thinking I'm like all right, like the money's got to be decent. And I was like what when I heard I'm like no, we gotta try and get something more that's crazy yeah that's crazy kazakhstan still trying

Speaker 1:

but, yeah it's the money on so how long?

Speaker 2:

how long is left on your contract with starboxing? If you could say if not, I I'm not trying to get you jammed up.

Speaker 3:

It got extended two years I think, because I won the title. It was more of a major title. It was like the WBA, wbc, one of those Then it gets extended, which I get, Then you can't win that and then go running off to another promoter and then you know that's screwed. But so it got extended like two years and, like I said, it's just been kind of like a back and forth thing. But I think tomorrow we're talking and really just gonna be like did we, like it can't happen, like we cannot do the paramount. I don't know if it's like kind of one of those like they probably have, like I just don't want to fight their kind of thing yeah but it's like no, we actually can't like like my job, I need off, like yeah, yeah, if I'm just burning my own vacation six

Speaker 2:

days, yeah for it has your job, because I see you have the scpd boxing shirt on, like yeah, and, and usually like I know, like uh, jobs like that they're very like keen to. Oh, you're an athlete, you do whatever you want. Have you spoke to anyone there, or is it just still like?

Speaker 3:

It's not like NYPD I heard if you were fighting and stuff. It's kind of like oh, you're off the road.

Speaker 2:

Bro, I heard NYPD. If you're fighting, you're just in an office somewhere and you train all day.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, yeah, represent us well they'll be like work the desk in the gym or something like that. I heard cities like great, like that. I'm like, oh, really. So I'm thinking, oh, I'm gonna come out here. It's gonna be like even better, right like and then it kind of wasn't.

Speaker 3:

It wasn't, and then, once, like, I won, and then it got going. It's like oh, now you know, if it's the right opportunity, we'll give you those, you know, time off. I don't know how they said they figured it out. I didn't discuss it, but I was told that I would be able to get off, which I'd hope so. If it was like oh, okay, like they, because if you don't know boxing, it's kind of like yeah what's that?

Speaker 3:

mean, and then yeah, like once it comes out in the papers and stuff, it's kind of like a good publicity thing. So I think they've jumped on board now. Uh, more. So that's good, that's good. Dba president has like talked about me and stuff on in the papers. I was like I didn't know. I'm like, oh shoot, that's really cool. So, yeah, that there's.

Speaker 3:

I'm sure they would like if you have a fight at, say, msg, right, even the hulu theater or whatever, and you tell them that I'm, they have to work with you, like you're representing their department in, like a crazy positive light, great recognition yeah, often with that yeah, for that, like I said, that's, if it's that opportunity where it's like on a bigger stage, then they do it 100 and it'd be cool like I'd be able to have like the band come out and this and that like it'd be a much bigger thing than the paramount, where everyone's taken off and they have to hire from all over the county to come work at the second precinct because no one's there for the Paramount. I remember everyone was off. It was insane.

Speaker 2:

So we were at that. Fight your last one versus the real cop hater.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the real cop hater.

Speaker 2:

Dude, it was his last fight. The guy was talking shit, he was so crazy.

Speaker 3:

The whole time he was leaning up to the fight. The guy was talking shit, he's so crazy. The whole time he was like he was leaning up to the fight. He was just in the ring in the ring I was in the back just sitting in the in my room just hanging out. It's like five o'clock, which is there, got tons of time. He just walks by the room, just stands outside the room and just starts staring at me. I'm like this, this guy's a clown just staring at me like a little guy's movie I'm just cracking up, looking at him, intimidation so you should have pulled.

Speaker 2:

You should have pulled your what you're really good at, your uh, mike tyson impression.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, I said yo look at your boy Puma. I was like oh shit, that's good. That was funny as shit.

Speaker 2:

Did your Instagram get deleted for that.

Speaker 3:

No, it was actually for the whole election stuff.

Speaker 2:

Really, I think.

Speaker 3:

I got a ton of people reporting me for that.

Speaker 1:

Oh the censorship. They love censorship out here, man. It's so stupid man. They love censorship.

Speaker 3:

They put everything the world is so sensitive, even if you're messing around with stuff, everyone just gets, so butt hurt.

Speaker 2:

So I showed my wife man, I'm a little mad at you. Actually. I showed my wife I'm like, oh look, alex Vargas copied.

Speaker 1:

She sent some wild.

Speaker 2:

He's got a nice ass. Wow.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, I heard that a few times Wow. I didn't even know I had that. Wow, I was explaining.

Speaker 2:

I'm like I do too. The cup lifts it up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what is going on, anyway, anyway.

Speaker 2:

Hey yo, that was funny, man. What did you think of that fight? What did you think of the Mike? Did you watch the whole card or did you just watch the Mike Tyson?

Speaker 3:

fight. Yeah, I watched the whole card. I was mainly excited for Serrano and KD.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, that was going to be a good fight.

Speaker 2:

I kept telling everyone because you know, the buzz for the Mike Tyson fight that was the best part of the whole thing was the buzz leading up. I was like, wow, this is what the like anybody that's into boxing wants this for every fight.

Speaker 1:

You know I wanted. I was waiting for the amanda fight, oh man I I kept telling everybody.

Speaker 2:

I'm like no, no, no, just who cares about paul tyson?

Speaker 3:

it's like a show me too watch sarano taylor I was telling everybody that they're girls I'm like, trust me, they're gonna freaking go at it like all like they, just non nonstop the first fight. I'm like it's going to be the same way.

Speaker 2:

Yep, and exactly what it was. What did you think of that? Who did you think won?

Speaker 3:

Just like the first fight, I honestly thought Katie Taylor won.

Speaker 2:

Really, really, what.

Speaker 3:

And I watched it again with my dad.

Speaker 2:

So the thing. What did your pop say?

Speaker 3:

He thought Katie won too, like we were just watching. Like it would be like Serrano would land a good shot and then Katie Taylor would land, like that check hook was landing all day, and then she would throw like three after that and just catch her and then move.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they weren't as hard, but she was landing.

Speaker 3:

They weren't as hard.

Speaker 1:

But, she had a lot of.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, she had the Olympic style.

Speaker 1:

So when she would throw like amanda probably throw like two.

Speaker 3:

She's throwing five back yeah, it was like two would land and it would be like, oh, but then katie would throw like five and they'd land, not snap her head back as much, but they were flush and I'm like I mean I thought I'm like she won that, that exchange right there, I can't bro.

Speaker 1:

I shed a tear for fucking Amanda bro. I feel like she got robbed twice.

Speaker 3:

I feel like that. I thought this one was closer Me too.

Speaker 2:

That's what I was going to say I was like, but that being said so this one was closer right and there was a point taken off.

Speaker 1:

Oh, like that yeah. No, that was I'm like, like how the hell did you still lose with a point?

Speaker 2:

taken off and this and this shit was so close like it wasn't a blowout, so like I feel like with the point taken off, you got to lean towards so do you think the head bust was intentional?

Speaker 3:

no, intentional, yeah, I don't think, especially being like left, like a southpaw, and because I do the same thing, and she's beating with her head.

Speaker 3:

Bro. I got sliced open like that and like I'd see katie taylor the way she would throw, and she was like the shorter fighter, like I kind of do the same thing, like I'll lean in to like just reach with my left hand and then, like they collide, she would keep it forward on the inside. But I didn't see it as intentional, I just I think that's how she fights in the whole Southpaw and the Orthodox. It's just bound to happen.

Speaker 1:

I believe that's how she fights, right, but it's like when she was clenching up. She was really throwing her head at him. Yeah, yeah, so now this is making me think that it's intentional now, because she's literally clenching up and she's throwing her head at the.

Speaker 1:

She was like lunging lunging at her head like and Amanda's backing up like this, so she's backing up and then you still throwing your head up Like that's. Now it's starting to look intentional. That's what I understand that you South Pole versus Orthodox, you're going to bump head, step on toes, all all that she lunges in with her punches. But that shit was.

Speaker 2:

It was a great fight.

Speaker 1:

Both fights was great.

Speaker 3:

Amanda knew that, going into the fight that she leads with her head and stuff Her and her team.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a good point. She needed to lean more on her back foot.

Speaker 3:

She would just get headbutted and they'd be complaining about it and Katie Taylor would just keep throwing punches. Yeah, it's just like I mean.

Speaker 2:

Yeah she didn't do it to you but you can't just stop fighting. Amanda's so powerful If she would just take, like in those moments when Katie was flurrying. If she would just take a half step back or give a little bit of an angle and just pop her it would have been.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, she would just try and hold her ground too much yeah, yeah, Amanda would yeah, Out-strength her and she knew she had power. I'm like if she just, like you said, stepped back or didn't just sit there trying to back her up when that happened and another thing I want to point out, and I say it every time Amanda Serrano fights and you probably know where I'm going with this.

Speaker 1:

Oh, the fucking sneakers, the.

Speaker 3:

Jordans man, the Jordans.

Speaker 2:

Like, yeah, they look great. But when you saw her in the warm-up right the open workout, she was moving white lighter on her feet in tennis shoes. She was like yeah, and it was nice.

Speaker 1:

And I'm like oh, please wear ritual at this point.

Speaker 2:

She's trying to get sponsored and jordan? Jordan should sponsor like she's at this point. She's the only one doing it, and where's that? I know.

Speaker 3:

But I mean, but like she could have used some lighter shoes to just step I swear.

Speaker 1:

and she's coming up in weight and all that like, yeah, that too she could have just like been.

Speaker 2:

But if you look at the open workout, she's like she's bouncing around more. She's more light on her feet, you see it. And the first thing I looked at was the shoes and I'm like I know, watch tomorrow. And same thing, she's just more flat. We did a little boxing workout the other day, oh my God, first one in a long time. It wasn't pretty, and actually I thought about you because I'm like yo.

Speaker 1:

You were working out that same day. I'm like yo invite him over here. You went on a run, you went on a run.

Speaker 3:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was right down the road.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you should come over for a fight night, though one night. It gets fun over here, so there's a bunch of coaches here and stuff.

Speaker 1:

I'm down. Yo, you got to come for a workout.

Speaker 2:

I want to see what your regimen is. That too.

Speaker 1:

That too.

Speaker 3:

I don't even have one. It's right here. My dad is just brutal and I just follow whatever the heck he says.

Speaker 2:

That's a good regimen, that's good.

Speaker 3:

Un with the dogs, Don't kill us. But.

Speaker 1:

I want to, I want to, you know, work out with you to see, I'm kind of nice with the mitts, the mitt work so I want to see you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

He's a good mitt man over here.

Speaker 1:

So I want to see how that.

Speaker 2:

You know how that works. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm a lefty and all that yeah so I'm not I.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I got no hands, but he's good. Maybe you were like yo. We're doing the mids for the first time in a long time. He's like yo, you made slow. I'm like shut the hell up, man. It's hard. Man, it's hard bro. Yo. It is funny, though.

Speaker 1:

So like it's like definitely like for you, like that's like you doing a job and everything like we like it's. It's crazy how you your work ethic is is nuts and people don't know.

Speaker 2:

Like, like you, you work midnights basically right, pretty much. Um, I I've worked midnights before. People don't realize like the toll that takes on you, like after a midnight dude, and even when you wake up at two, three in the afternoon, you don't want to do anything but squeeze one out, eat some cereal, yeah I squeeze one out and go to sleep it's like hard.

Speaker 3:

People are like, oh, midnights are gonna be better for you because just you know we work less days. Yeah, yeah, I'm like all right, maybe, instead of like flip-flopping seven to three, three to eleven, three, like there was no routine, I'm like now I do have a routine'm like either way, it's just brutal on the body Because now I wake up at like 3, then, especially if I'm training for a fight, I'm going to go kill myself training and then just know I have to go into work for a 10-hour tour.

Speaker 3:

And I don't know what's going to happen.

Speaker 2:

Or it could be more.

Speaker 1:

Anything can happen, suffolk, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3:

It's just like hit or miss, like it could be a good night, or then I'm getting like some crazy nonsense at 6 am and now I'm stuck there till noon. Then I gotta sleep and then train and then do it all again. It's just there's no winning, like yeah, no and that's like a big.

Speaker 2:

There's a big misconception in like cop world right where, like people, people think like and not not all, but people think cops are out there like trying to make arrests. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go. Let's go save the world, but in a fucking paperwork right in in cop world. It's the total opposite because, like you just said, at 6 am after midnight, you're about to get off and now you gotta make an arrest. You're there for another six to eight hours, yeah, and and you just want, you really want to die.

Speaker 3:

Like you want to die, like it was like last week, and I get a call at like 5.30, 5.40, no, like 6.00. And I forgot what it was. It's just like drunk guys in 7.11. It's like a Wednesday morning we get there and they're just trying to fight us at 6.00 am. Yo, what I can't imagine like having to deal with that and then go sleep and then go train fight someone in the ring and then go deal with that again.

Speaker 2:

Think about it. I just fought two homeless dudes. Now I gotta go spar. Call me on no sleep.

Speaker 3:

Yeah homeless dudes tricking you.

Speaker 1:

You probably see my company, the Winter Brothers. I work for them, so I drive the trucks, I pick up the dumpsters. Straight path and one inch, oh my god, that's bro, crack heads to the middle.

Speaker 3:

They 1 am every morning, that's when I start, I start at 1 am they outside? They don't stay outside. Like I work. The car I work is like. So I have one of the busiest cars. It's's like Huntington Village and then it goes up to Huntington Station. So I'm dealing with the drunk people in the village and then I go to Huntington Station and I have the drunk Spanish people or the MS-13 dudes. They don't sleep. They're just up all night drinking and fighting and stabbing each other. They just don't sleep. I don't get it.

Speaker 2:

They're just up it is like, and I can't imagine, like, like you said, like you just have fighting right, like you have a fight and now you this is in the back of your mind even that just plays, that plays a toll, like you work out or whatever.

Speaker 3:

Now it's like oh, I gotta go to work, please don't get involved in anything, please don't get, but it's inevitable yeah, you don't, you don't want to get hurt, yeah that too it happened I wasn't training for a fight, but over the summer, like we we had to like fight some guy and my knuckles got all scraped up from like the concrete rolling around and I'm like if I was training I'm screwed, my knuckles all just ripped open. So it's scary. Like when I was training for a fight I would be like, all right, like I'd really hold back. I'm like, no, I don't want to fight you, I'm good, I'm good, I do not want to fight you.

Speaker 2:

I'm not trying to get hurt Yo. Suffolk County Police Department brass. Give this guy an office job in a gym. There's gyms all over Long Island. He will be the sport liaison or something, one of those little PAL. He'll hold mitts for kids and he will be the light of the department. Get him, get him out of wine dance scpd brass, all right I got no pull. They're gonna be like yeah, okay, uh, midnight's forever and that's like that's another thing too.

Speaker 2:

people don't understand. Say you ask for something, right, it just takes one major boss to be like nah, fuck this guy For no reason.

Speaker 3:

Just like any job, someone could just never meet you and just not like you, for no reason.

Speaker 3:

It's just like no. Everyone else is yeah and one guy is like no. Fortunately, like I said, they are really good and they said they would give me whatever I need um if I did get the, the right fight, and I I do believe them, I really think they would um. But yeah, we'll see, because I need it, because I can't, I I love my job and I love boxing. When I'm doing both, I hate both yeah, of course I hate going to work.

Speaker 3:

I hate training. I hate. I'm in a bad mood at work. I'm in a bad mood you're dieting.

Speaker 2:

You're dieting. That's another thing. Do the best. Like there's so many like you, you get the ultimate respect any working man like. That's why I kind of love Joe Smith Jr, another local guy like think about sitting in all night like driving by mcdonald's or wendy's or taco bell yeah and you have to diet and yeah, there's always food coming in donuts as you want to say my bad and you keep driving around and you keep seeing it.

Speaker 3:

Right, you keep seeing it. It's funny too, because people see me at work and like I'll start training. They're like, oh, you look healthy. And then I really get like five weeks in and then now my gum belt's sagging all the way down to like my knees and they're like what?

Speaker 1:

People is never satisfied with your weight loss or your weight gain. They be like I like the weight on you, oh, but you lose weight. You be like oh, you're too skinny. Like what do you want?

Speaker 3:

And then, like I said, then you're always hungry at work. I mean, funny, he's never gotten it. Even since I turned pro. It'll be like the week of the fight and I'm cutting weight and, like my mom, my mom's good, like she won't eat in front of me, like she'll suck it up till I when I was home, like we'll go downstairs. Whatever the case is, my dad would just come home with like pizza, start eating in front of me, like like not even realizing like just by accident what are you doing?

Speaker 3:

he's like oh shoot, I'm sorry every time he's like eating in front of me birds like, oh, this is great stuff, and I'm cutting weight to 140 pounds.

Speaker 1:

Apologize, my dad would have been like yeah you know what's funny? Yeah, my dad's so funny. He would have been like yo fuck you.

Speaker 2:

I can't wait till like and this is for the old heads like your dad, my dad like something about food is like whenever they eat oh man, this is the best burger I ever had, like you had it 20 times.

Speaker 1:

It gets to a point it gets to a point, right I?

Speaker 3:

can't eat like I used to. I'm still down in the whole plate, yeah like three slices.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I feel nauseous. All of them, all of them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know when they hit the toilet.

Speaker 2:

I can't wait, like that's when you made it, though imagine they be constipated but like, imagine when you make that age where, like, the best moment is yo, this food is like a kid alright though so, alright, we talked about Serrano, we talked about all kinds of shit we're all over the place.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we were. That's what happens. You're just a wrestler now? Yeah, that's what happens. This is what we do on a regular. Just fucking start rambling.

Speaker 2:

What did you think of the Mike Tyson-Jake Paul? We got to speak on it. It is the hot topic.

Speaker 3:

I mean, it was like depressing to watch.

Speaker 3:

Yeah it was very sick, obviously, obviously everyone knows Mike Like that was my favorite fight. I never. I think I was young and he was on the, he was already going through when I was growing up. But I watched all of his fights and just watching him like it was like it gave you chills, like seeing him there again, yeah, this and that. Like it was like, oh, shoot Mike Tyson. But then it was like depressing because he was such a bad dude putting everyone out, such a good boxer and he's just huffing and puffing on the stool and just looking down bad. He's 58 years old. This is such a joke. He's such a legend Jake Paul would never Imagine if he fought him in his prime. It would be 30 seconds if that.

Speaker 2:

The biggest win for Tyson in this whole thing was the lead up it had us believing.

Speaker 1:

The majority of people were like there's a shot, there's a shot. The power of clips.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, I was like, if he does it in the first round, then yeah, I'm like, if not, and then, exactly right, when the second round finished it was just over- I did see a big difference, and this is like from the four years ago when he fought Roy Jones until now, but that four years makes a huge difference when you're in your 50s and 60s like it's.

Speaker 1:

I felt like he was in better shape.

Speaker 3:

Now, though, he looked better, but the movement and stuff, he just looked like he tripped, walking into the ring.

Speaker 2:

I know, I saw that, I saw that I was like I was like all head chills and I saw that.

Speaker 3:

I'm like.

Speaker 2:

I just didn't want to get knocked out. Say that again. You broke up a little, oh yeah. Yeah, we were rooting for that too, Just no knockout.

Speaker 1:

I just didn't want to get knocked out. No, man yeah.

Speaker 3:

I was like don't get clipped, don't get clipped.

Speaker 1:

So he made it through but I love New York for not letting us bet on Mike, because I would have definitely bet on Mike.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, everyone's definitely going to bet on him.

Speaker 2:

I do like too that Jake Paul showed he does have a heart. He's a human, it's most an act. He actually I gained respect for him, for you know he saw, wow, I'm fighting an old guy. You could tell he felt that in the ring. First, two, three rounds he was like oh fuck. And then he's like wait a a minute, this is somebody's grandpa.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and it's a legend. It would not be good if he did knock him out? Yeah, not at all.

Speaker 2:

His stock would have went down, but it actually rose and he tapped into a different market. The old heads like we just spoke about were watching the fight.

Speaker 1:

And him showing that respect.

Speaker 2:

Now they kind of like him so he's, he's kind of a genius. He's a genius he's doing yo he is he's been a genius.

Speaker 1:

I just can't youtube that youtube being like popular on youtube.

Speaker 3:

He's like the first one. Yeah, it takes a lot, yeah, to just act in ridiculous and blow up his name.

Speaker 2:

It's his brother's stock his brother's stock uh went down, though with that fucking comment at the end. That was so stupid. Yeah like, shut up, dude, I'll kill you.

Speaker 1:

I feel like he didn't know what to say.

Speaker 2:

Like no shit, Just bow your head and let him have his moment.

Speaker 3:

He thought it was going to be funnier too, and everyone's like you're an idiot.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, I guess they're going to make more money. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I just saw actually another guy that you'd like to fight and we spoke about Ryan Garcia. Apparently, him and Jake Paul are in some kind of secret talks or some shit. Ryan Garcia just posted.

Speaker 1:

I would watch that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think Garcia beats him honestly.

Speaker 3:

I think so. I just need to see Jake Paul lose because, like I said, as a fighter, I don't know if he's real.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, as a fighter.

Speaker 3:

What do you think? Oh, I don't think he's good at all no, I mean it just makes it even worse, because I'm like watching this guy make tons of money because outside of boxing nothing to do with boxing you can tons of money and I'm sitting here getting thrown to kazakhstan and I've worked like my brother off to get them.

Speaker 1:

He's just like they're gonna give you got to put that in title. They're going to give you a camel or something yeah, take home a camel Jake Paul's making.

Speaker 3:

I wish I could fight a 58-year-old and make that money.

Speaker 2:

Of course Shit and I can't hate. You can't hate on Tyson. Tyson made 20 mil to just yeah For him great.

Speaker 1:

I love that for Tyson man and Jake Paul too.

Speaker 2:

I did hear, though, so we interviewed Mike Tyson's sparring partner and friend, magic Mike Mike Russell, and he said he was like Jake Paul from what he hears in that little circuit, that niche circuit, that he's paying the fuck out of his fighters and his camps must be getting paid man.

Speaker 3:

I can't imagine. I'm like that new mvp promotions.

Speaker 2:

I'm like they got the money, yeah, that's his, yo do that, yo do that because that's his outlet too, like that undercard was a great undercard. He put together a great undercard they even had.

Speaker 1:

They had shushu on there. I heard they was beefing a little bit, though he tried to play Shushu the press conference.

Speaker 2:

But at the end he said, like Jake Paul, and this is why he's kind of a genius and I hate to just let Jake Paul hijack the show we got El Toro here, it's all right, that's what he does. That's the genius.

Speaker 1:

I love that name, but pause.

Speaker 2:

I love the ride. Oh my god, six flags.

Speaker 1:

I had to say pause before that.

Speaker 3:

I love the ride and then I was like I'll shoot the ride six flags man the show's getting weird.

Speaker 2:

My girl's talking about his nice ass and Willie loves the ride nah, I said pause.

Speaker 1:

I said pause before, I said pause.

Speaker 3:

You have to say it after yeah, oh, come on.

Speaker 1:

I already knew it was coming.

Speaker 2:

Pause. It was so bad, he put it in the beginning.

Speaker 3:

That's how bad it was. It was bad.

Speaker 2:

But I don't even know what I was going to say now, shit.

Speaker 1:

My bad Jake Paul something.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah. So in the press conference in the beginning and I don't think Jake Paul knew he was going to do this, he just did it. He was made for marketing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

He got up I don't know if you saw it and he because we're huge Carrington fans. Yeah, new York, obviously. I'm sure you're a fan. You sparred him right, you sparred him once.

Speaker 3:

Shushu, I've actually never sparred because we were always like too big of a weight difference.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's very, that's like the only one.

Speaker 3:

I didn't spar.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I forget how fucking like when they're in the ring and you watch on TV any boxer you forget how light.

Speaker 2:

They are, bro, they look fucking massive, yeah. And then that's why, when I'm talking, I'm like what the fuck? Nah, shushu fights at what 126? That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, that's light. But he went up to Shushu and he was like oh yo, how much you want to bet? And then shushu, because he's witty new york guy, he's like how much you want to lose, like right away? Yeah, that was his response. And then, fucking, he's like I make more money than you taking a shit, which is probably true, but it was just like it was bad taste like this is a literal boxer trying to.

Speaker 2:

This is a real fighter, that's all that's what I was thinking like. This isn't like. This isn't youtube.

Speaker 3:

This is a real fighter you're not making money from boxing. He's actually trying to make the money that you're making and shouldn't be making because you don't have any skill.

Speaker 2:

But hey, I mean whatever he did make Amanda Serrano and Katie Taylor happen. I have to give him credit for that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and they made money.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they've made a lot of money. He does seem to care about boxing. Now he went to the USA boxing the Olympic camp and stuff. He does seem to be trying. That's good. I think his route is definitely a promoter. This is his doorway into promotion.

Speaker 3:

He's paying the people that are with him. I was like I'll reach out to that.

Speaker 1:

Amanda is happy as hell. I'll listen to her today.

Speaker 2:

I heard he pays. He does not chintzy with his money. He's paying everybody his sparring partners his coach Like Jay Leon Love.

Speaker 3:

Jay Leon Love hit lotto with Jake Paul, that's crazy, he hit lotto with Jake Paul. If he could buy me out, then perfect.

Speaker 2:

Yo Starbucks, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo yo Show them this tomorrow. Man, Show them Paisans tomorrow. Yeah, paisans tomorrow.

Speaker 1:

MVP. Yeah, that'd be fine.

Speaker 2:

All right, dog. Yeah, man, did you watch the card the next day, the Saturday?

Speaker 3:

card. That was Tevin, farmer.

Speaker 2:

And yeah, oh, yep, zepeda, mm-hmm the DAZN card, that was Tevin Farmer and yeah Zepeda, the DAZN card, because Oscar Duarte versus Akhmadov, they're kind of in your. They're around, oh yeah yeah, yeah, duarte.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I didn't watch that card. I think I was at work. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it was early. That's my one gripe with the Saudis and I always talk about this Like, yeah, it's great they're putting great fights together, the fights that we all want to see, but, like Bro, like they gotta do it in America Cause, like I don't care, at 1pm on a Saturday I'm not like, and also Is that too, and that other part you was telling me about yeah, the fans man no.

Speaker 1:

The fans and you can't have a drink. Yeah, you can't have a drink. Yeah, you can't drink and talk oh, you can't.

Speaker 2:

Nah, I don't know if they changed it. I heard rumors that there's sections where you can, but because of their religion and culture they're very anti-alcohol. So for a while, remember the World Cup.

Speaker 1:

I love it, but I didn't get the World.

Speaker 2:

Cup and you need that fan. That's part of it. You being a fighter, you hear fans, right, You're like what the fuck. It's part of the action.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's really weird sometimes watching it, like watching Inoue fight in Japan yeah, same thing. And it's like a respectful crowd, they're all quiet watching it no no, and there's no motion. It was really weird watching. He's just like cracking the dude and they're all just like clapping.

Speaker 2:

They should. So I know you want a promotion to get fights. Obviously You're a fighter. We want to be paid fans. That's our goal?

Speaker 1:

Yo, that'd be fire. That's our goal, because I'm already on one, on ten, you're on a thousand.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I get like your fight. I was actually behaved because I was with my girl, so it was just like you know well behaved.

Speaker 3:

Something going on up there, though, oh yeah yeah, yeah, one of those little po-pos.

Speaker 2:

you know little cops.

Speaker 3:

I don't remember what that was, I just remember. I do, I do.

Speaker 2:

I'm not going to say it on air, but he was yelling something. It's a friend of yours or whatever. We squashed it or whatever, but he was yelling something and he just kept yelling it and it wasn't good. Yeah, like in my ear but not even talking to him. But he must have been watching me or something Like we were like below him, yeah, and he heard it. And then he looked. He looked he's like, yeah, I heard you Shut the fuck up and I looked back.

Speaker 2:

Oh God, and then I lost it. You know, I know the game, yeah, and I've been around these alpha male. It was funny, yeah, always someone that I hear after my fights.

Speaker 3:

I'm like they're trying to fight so-and-so.

Speaker 2:

But then at the after party we were all there, it was fine, it was good.

Speaker 2:

It was all good, that's hysterical, but yo, yo at the after party, your pops, man, I love them. Do you remember that at the end, no, then I'm playing peacemaker because they came up with like the bill or whatever and his pops had like a deal or whatever with the. It was like after party meal and your dad had a disagreement with the worker or whatever and your dad got hot and even you were like all right, pops, we got to get the fuck out of here, yeah, yeah, and then I'm.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, it was funny. You guys left and it was just me and this like worker. He's looking at me and I'm like, hey, what's up? Man, he's like what. I was like, give him a call tomorrow. Just let tempers die down?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was. So. We had it there after the first fight and it was mocked. You couldn't even walk in there. It was different management.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, they did management.

Speaker 3:

Oh okay, this whole thing and it was. It was great. The line was around like the block to get in. It was like a dj great time. So then they like sold to a new owner. So my dad exempted if they wanted to do it. And yeah, they said yes to whatever, whatever it was. And then out of nowhere the guy just came with like some bill he's. He's like what? He's like we already went over this, like discussed everything. Guys are not going to pay. He's like no, we already went over. And then he snapped and then I'm like what is going on? I'm like, oh my God, it was like Halloween weekend.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was hysterical, it was like right snap at that point.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It was funny Cause you all left. And then he's like you know we were talking, he looked at me, like me, and you were like we grew up together. He's like, yeah, you, you were like what the fuck? Not me, but that was cool, it was fun. Um, actually I have fight. We we bumped into andre rosier and you know he's a good friend of yours, yeah, and man. You were right. You were right, man.

Speaker 2:

I ordered two t-shirts from this website, the great t-shirts, havoc t-shirts, and so I follow havoc on like instagram and I dm'd them like hey man, I noticed they followed my stuff or whatever. I'm like, hey, oh, I ordered a t-shirt, was just wondering, you know. He's like, oh, was that you, these two t-shirtsshirts? I was like, yeah, like two months ago, you guys took my money. So then, long story short though, he was like, yeah, yeah, we'll send them soon. Like a month goes by. We go to the fight and I see Andre in like the bathroom.

Speaker 3:

Yeah yeah, dropped you. I was like he told me man, he told me your stuff is good, but it's late. I always want to wear the havoc trunks like yeah, I promise I'm like, no, I'm like I. I don't need to be stressed on fight night and I'm warming up and five minutes before the fight you're with the sewing machine in the locker room like I'm expected to bring in trunks and it's gotta be.

Speaker 1:

It's gotta be his partner, bro. It's him and his partner.

Speaker 2:

Because he's such a good guy, he doesn't mean to do it.

Speaker 1:

He's not spiteful. He'd be training, he'd be doing a lot.

Speaker 3:

He's so laid back, he doesn't even get stressed, but the fighters get stressed. He's like, no, I'll get it done. And then next thing.

Speaker 2:

You know that's it, because the next day I had a dm.

Speaker 1:

He's like yeah, they're on the way, but it's like yeah, finally jesus, and it's crazy that he's so close with coach jerry. Yeah, yeah, so you know, jerry harvey, he's close with your dad too so yeah, they're very close, so, but yeah, man, that that was a good night.

Speaker 2:

I can't wait to see you in the ring again. Um, you got to put down the espresso martinis though, man oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

I'm freaking double whenever I do drink those. Yeah you know, yeah, I'll do like. My friends think I'm crazy.

Speaker 2:

I just wake up, I'm like 15 miles because I'm like it's not, that's the other thing you're, you, you're like, your mind is just made for boxing too, like workout wise, like we talked about it in the last interview and stuff, uh, but like he did the I don't want to speak about it again, but he did the goggins like challenge, oh my god, I love david, yeah, yeah just like, whatever, the more I eat or whatever it is if I have a bad day of eating, or something like that.

Speaker 3:

I just got to double.

Speaker 2:

What is your go-to espresso martini, though on the island.

Speaker 3:

Moltovino in Babylon.

Speaker 2:

Moltovino in Babylon. Write it down. Write it down.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, best spot.

Speaker 2:

Mine, as a fellow espresso martini fiend, is Brasico, right here in Amityville, so check that out too.

Speaker 3:

Never had it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a Brazilian-Mexican mix. They're Espresso Martinis, dude. We just go there for that, and mine.

Speaker 1:

You even like Espresso Martinis. No, you put me on. I ain't about to share that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I just always got to like I never knew nothing about them. It's always just whenever I'm on like a date or something, I gotta get it, yeah, yeah yo, I never knew nothing about he.

Speaker 1:

I'm like yo, this got caffeine in it. He's like yeah, I'm like oh shit, we use that brunch. I was like oh yeah, give me that, give me that, I need some caffeine, right now me and willie, are we we're teaching each other our different cultures? Yeah, learning a lot, we're learning a lot. This guy took me. Yeah, he's invited to the barbecue. Yeah, I made it to the barbecue, man.

Speaker 2:

That's it. But listen, man, pleasure having you on. We won't take up any more of your time. Yo, we love you, we're the biggest fan we do.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, we appreciate you, bro.

Speaker 2:

You got to tell your promotion that the longer you don't fight right, you get out of the rankings and that's less money for the promotion you know. Like remind them that.

Speaker 3:

I know, I know you would think these things MVP.

Speaker 1:

MVP, mvp.

Speaker 3:

I think we'll get something after we talk this next time, because now, like I said, it's getting to the point where you drop out of the rankings and this and that. I don't think he wants to let that happen. So it's kind of like back and forth.

Speaker 2:

You know for a little bit see what they could do, and kind of thing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, uh, we're just standing our ground until uh we get something, so I'm sure we will after we talk, and it's just like I have to dude you're, you're like, you're the long island guy, like yeah, and it's not just him like, if this is these stories with every promoter, where it's just like yeah, yeah, yeah or at the end, at some point it's like all right, we'll do this, and then everything works out so but in the end, in the end, like in the end, both sides suffer.

Speaker 2:

So it's like come on, like yeah both sides suffer and, uh, not fun.

Speaker 3:

But I I think it was a good little break because I was worn out after my last fight, just from like work, and I fought twice and whatever six months doing both. So it was a little break, like my body's healed up a lot and uh, is it?

Speaker 2:

there's no like rematch possible with that guy, right? Is he like gaming for one with his shit talk, or is?

Speaker 3:

that. Oh, he's probably trying for one, but I don't even. Yeah, I I'd have a much better performance. Like I said, I was really busy at work and then getting dropped in the first round, kind of. I kind of played the whole fight safer than I wanted to.

Speaker 2:

There's that old saying, or whatever, I think it was a Bronx tale the working man is a tough guy, but you are the costumant tough guy because you are the working man and a professional boxer, so we to give it to you for that that's so hard, like, like we can't, we can't even work out yeah, that's what I'm saying I can't imagine fucking tired. Yeah, what you, what you go sometimes we can't even just talk about boxing yeah, we worked today.

Speaker 1:

Yo, you want to reschedule, you want to do it tomorrow, this guy is a different beast, but hey, we're here for it.

Speaker 2:

man, For real, though, I'll hit you up. Man, Come over for a fight or a workout event.

Speaker 1:

Can we do a workout though Sunday?

Speaker 3:

man, sunday you free or no? What's Sunday? What's today? I don't even know my days from work today, today is monday uh, yeah, I think I'm off sunday sunday yeah, I'll hit you up if you're around, come, come by.

Speaker 2:

It's not gonna be nothing crazy. It's a garage heavy bag. It's a good heavy bag, though it's a real one in the garage. It's a real one uh, but yeah, I'll hit you up. Definitely, though, I I would like you to come me for a fight, because, uh, the fight parties we have get a little wild and crazy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I can see that.

Speaker 2:

I'll make the missus. Make some espresso, martinis man, we'll be at your next fight. For sure though, so whenever it does come to fruition, we'll be there. All right, man, take care, tell your pops we said hi.

Speaker 3:

I will.

Speaker 2:

And we'll be looking out for you, man. Thanks again.

Speaker 3:

All right guys. Thanks for having me Peace.