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WBC INTERIM CHAMP GINNY FUCHS TALKING ALL THINGS BOXING ...and more, much more!
Ever tried pronouncing "FUCHS" in a crowded room? Join us as WBC champ, olympian and mental health warrior Ginny Fuchs shares the hilariously awkward encounters her unique last name has sparked oh yeah and some boxing chatter as well. We kick off a Sunday fun day with shots of Jack Daniels and stories from a whirlwind nights. This episode is filled with laughter, camaraderie, and a touch of drama as we set the record straight on some wild accusations. Ginny Fuchs talks about her epic injury in her last fight and what awaits on the roads ahead for the modern day pirate! One of the more fun interviews Willie and Puma have had, as Ginny gives zero Fuchs!
it's time for the main event. It's the sparring podcast you can see us though, yeah no, I can't.
Speaker 2:I can't see any of y'all's faces. All I see is fucking Jameson and Daniel and McCarty. What the hell Really Hold on it's like we're having a good time, I understand.
Speaker 1:You make me want to get a shot right now. I mean, I want to get a shot looking at you guys, because that's all I see.
Speaker 3:This is our little studio here. It's a.
Speaker 2:Sunday Sunday, fun day for me.
Speaker 1:It gets me a rare Sunday fun day.
Speaker 2:So if we're taking a shot can I get? I mean, I'll find a fucking Jack Daniels in my house, hold on, let me see if I can set this up.
Speaker 1:I don't know that Shadow clock.
Speaker 2:Shadow clock.
Speaker 1:Shadow clock.
Speaker 3:Shut. A clock Shut a clock. We had a Halloween party last night. Don't tempt me.
Speaker 2:Don't tempt me, because I haven't done anything for the past three weeks, so I will go do a shot with you guys right now.
Speaker 3:Is that better? Can you see us better?
Speaker 2:I don't know what. No, I can't see anything. I see your hand.
Speaker 3:Oh, this is weird. What's going on here? Sorry, hold on Then here. Sorry, hold on, then we'll get rolling. Uh, can I?
Speaker 1:just you know what I'm gonna go see if I can zoom out real quick and then yeah, give me two seconds. Oh man, thanks for thanks for pulling up though no, I, you guys.
Speaker 2:Well, I saw, I saw what's his name in new york and I was like wait, I know you yeah, yeah, we was both there, but I was drunk. No, I didn't see you, motherfucker. I didn't see you.
Speaker 1:I was I was drunk and tired, I was assuming. I was assuming, yeah, yeah, because I do like 12 hour shifts and shit.
Speaker 2:So I went straight for the fight, like at the work, damn near, you know, yeah that was a rough night for me, especially after Michaela won and then like putting it on the paint thing against her and her doing interviews about that. That's all it was about. It was nothing about her winning the fight. It was all about who threw the paint on sydney or sandy, yeah, yeah who threw it and she was like I don't fucking know, I don't know. And it was like oh, you know?
Speaker 2:no, I don't oh, they oh, they try to blame you, loki they well, no, I'm saying they try to blame mckayla and her team.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's wild crazy, I don't know. Can you see? Can you see?
Speaker 2:I just wanted to fight and get a belt Like don't put this shit on me. But of course they're going to. Of course she's going to be. Oh, it's Michaela's team. They're the only ones that know when I was going to walk out of the hotel and technically they didn't know the exact time.
Speaker 3:Wait, they really blamed you. Are you talking about that paint?
Speaker 1:thing, the paint thing. Well, they blamed not me specifically.
Speaker 2:They just blamed Michaela's team.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, I thought you meant you specifically.
Speaker 2:I was like you're a nice person. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:Not me specifically. You can see us now, though.
Speaker 3:Oh no.
Speaker 2:No, I can't see any one of y'all's faces.
Speaker 3:I just see the liquors.
Speaker 2:I just see the liquors, which is fine for me. All right, Whatever y'all want, whatever y'all want.
Speaker 3:We'll just start and I'll edit it, and I'll edit Whatever y'all want. It's probably better.
Speaker 2:You don't see my ugly face.
Speaker 1:Well, all right.
Speaker 3:No introduction needed, clearly from all these.
Speaker 3:What's going on, but we are here with jenny fuches am I saying that right, no, say it, say it, say it, say it, say it, say it, because I don't want to okay, because, because the last time when I, when I first heard of you I don't even want to tell you what I was saying, jenny fuchs, and definitely you probably wouldn't like that- ass, tiger, ass, tiger, johnson, he's gonna be like the first time I heard her name was they said virginia fox and I was like no way, relax, tiger he like got all excited about it.
Speaker 2:I was like bro relax so, first and foremost, nobody has the last name as fox, whatever you want to call it Imagine that we could probably find some people Probably right.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 3:I'm not Googling it and that's what Meet the parents?
Speaker 1:Meet the parents. What parents can't?
Speaker 2:control that shit. They're just like whatever, just tell them, just tell them what it is.
Speaker 1:But it's fuchsia.
Speaker 2:If you think of the color fuchsia take out the uh and say fuchsia. That's how I explain it to people Fuchsia.
Speaker 3:Okay, that works. Fuchsia I got it now.
Speaker 1:Meet the fox.
Speaker 3:Especially when I start drinking. I'm like, even when I met you, I was like oh, ginny Fuchs.
Speaker 2:What's up? I know it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 3:yeah, that is that is true. That is true, um, but that being said, first of all, how does it feel to be champion?
Speaker 2:you know, you and the new great, I mean. Um, that's what I've been wanting to do as soon as I as soon as I turned pro after the tokyo olympics was compete for a world title ASAP. And you know usually the way how it is you have to get at least 10 fights to make your record proper and then you get a world title fight. There's only been a few fights where, like Lomachico I think it was his third fight where he competed for a world title fight.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think it might have been like his second. I think he just second, I think he's there. Yeah, second, even second, and I wanted.
Speaker 2:I kind of wanted to be that person. Yes, I am. I'm a woman and I have um more experience than more women, so I have that more opportunity. But that's not like that is. That doesn't make a difference. I have more experience, yes, but I am the more experienced boxer, I am more technical, you're an Olympian. I am the better boxer, regardless if they have 20 fights, 15 fights, and so that's what I was up against. I was up against a 15, I think she had 15 or maybe it was 16. Uh, pro fights undefeated.
Speaker 3:I think she was 50 percent knockout rate she was 16, and oh, and she was 16 and oh right, she was yep, yep, she was 16 and oh, and she's known too, she's, and you went to cali and did it. Right, that fight I did in her hometown, right, yeah, that's what I'm saying I don't give a, I didn't give a fuck.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna say it on the line I don't, I don't care you could I? Because I've told eddie, I've told top rank, I've told even golden boy like, look, I'm coming. I mean, and you don't have to put my and and they want to put my age as an uh as a reason to like hold me back, I guess.
Speaker 2:And and to me I was like okay, you can, you can do that, but I have the experience. It doesn't matter about my age, I want to get the world titles ASAP. I don't care if it's two or three or four fights, just give me the opportunity. And thank God, you know Mattroom, eddie Hearn and I was telling him this the last fight I had with Mattroom was when Regis fought in New Orleans and that was the first. You know, I mean, I've been expressing it, but that was the first stage where I could express it to the public. That give me this fight, but then the next fight. I want a real tight fight, fight like ASAP.
Speaker 2:I don't need like tune ups I don't need that shit the time is now.
Speaker 1:It's for you anyway, the time is now.
Speaker 2:I'm not wasting time. Life is short, just give it to me and then I was in that team combat league. Did y'all watch that?
Speaker 3:you never lost a round in there. That shit was fun.
Speaker 2:I'm not gonna lie that never lost a round in there. I was going to ask you yeah, that shit was fun. I'm not going to lie, that was fun. I didn't know what I was getting myself into, but they made a Houston team and you know Austin Trout.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Who's the Bare Knuckle League champ right now. He just defended his world title belt. So the team combat league came to him and bobby, who's bobby's regis is regis pro grace trainer. They came to them and said, let's, we want to start a houston team.
Speaker 2:We have all all over the fucking nation um yeah teams and they're like all right, well, we'll build a team. And austin came to me. He was like you can be on the team if you want. We want you, you don't even have to try out. And I was like, well, shit, I am not getting any fights, let me do this. I feel like this might bring me more recognition, might put me out there. People see me fighting at higher weight classes different girls every fucking week yeah, so it doesn't.
Speaker 3:There's no weight class. Really right, because I saw you were fighting the new y.
Speaker 2:There's a weight class, but they give you a four pound give. So I was fighting at the 126 weight class but all the girls I was fighting at were 130, 130.4.
Speaker 3:They looked big in there. Yeah, I was looking, I'm like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:They didn't care if they were 130.4, 130.2, 130.2, 130.3. They didn't care as long as they were one 130 point something and not 131, right, and I didn't care either. I just wanted to fight, I wanted to get it's awesome I just wanted to get myself recognized. I wanted people. I wanted to show people that I could fight bigger women at weight classes, different women, I didn't care, I just wanted to get a fucking fight and get a world title shot right so I was frustrated for so long so I was gonna say so that's what the league gave me what?
Speaker 3:what is the reason for them not giving you fights? Is it just contractual things? Is it just like promotional issues?
Speaker 2:I don't understand, because pretty much I was a high reward, low risk kind of fighter, like if they fought me you mean, you mean so, yeah, that was it it's like why would I fight her if I'm not getting anything out of it? And it's not like they're getting a lot of money out of it. Unless I put my purse into it and to be honest, I ain't a rich bitch I'm not going to be able to pay them an extra $1, thousand dollars to find me.
Speaker 2:I just can't right now. I wish I could. That would be a different, um different situation, but I'm not in that situation right now. I wish I could. So that was my biggest problem was I couldn't find anybody to find me for the money they wanted unless I paid them more. So I had to find big promoters to put my, to put the money up for the big fights right, and I think it was the how well I was doing in the team combat league, which is what Matt came to me with this fight in August about the WC interim belt, because I think they asked a couple of girls. They didn't even ask my girl, christina Cruz, who's very close with me. I didn't think she wanted to take the fight and so they went to me and I was and automatically I think it was like a month out, maybe a month and a week out.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, wow, I didn't even know that it was very short notice and I was like hell, yeah, let's do it, because this is what I've been training for, this is the moment I've been waiting for. And obviously I was doing the team combat league and yeah, it was only. I did two rounds for three minutes For like every other week, every other two weeks, whatever, because it wasn't consistent.
Speaker 2:You never knew what they were like going to bring you, but I was whatever because it wasn't consistent. You never knew what they were like gonna bring you, but I was in shape, I was ready. I'm not sure if their team knew about that and I'm pretty sure they knew I was doing the team combat league, but I know how ready they thought it was there is, but this is the one that I wanted, so I took it that.
Speaker 3:So in that team combat league there is some like I know from the new york side ronica jeffries she's she's an ex-World Champ. She's older now but she could bang still. There's real competition there. Like you said, austin Trout, it's not like nobodies, it's real people and they're fighting. That's great for you. I'm curious though and I have to talk about it because I was so shocked. I watched the whole fight. It was fight of the night. Your thumb I know I'm harping on your thumb but how that didn't go like more viral than it did. Like that should have been on SportsCenter, that should have been on ESPN. Yeah right, because when they took the glove off and you're just standing there, I'm like I saw it. I'm like is that her bone? Like what is that? Why is it bleeding? I had so many. And then they I'm like holy shit, what round did that happen?
Speaker 2:To be honest, that was my same reaction when I took off the glove. I was like did that? Is that my thumb or is that my brain?
Speaker 3:Yeah, like what was going through your head as you're doing the interview. You're like, oh, like yo. Halloween came early, did I get?
Speaker 2:punched that hard? I'm not. I mean, I've been doing this for a lot of years. Did I get that? Did I get punched that hard that I'm seeing double? But no, but I remember the first round. I threw a right hook because I'm softball right yeah so I threw a right hook and I think I didn't close my hands enough in the glove I mean it happens all the time jam.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You can jam a thumb from throwing a straight left.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:Or a right hook if you're a softball Other way around, a straight left. Sorry, I don't know where you went. Guys, there you go, you're back Sorry.
Speaker 2:Sorry, a straight right or a right left or a hook left, it happens. So I remember in the fight when I throw my, when I threw my right hook, I felt it. I was like god damn, that fucking hurt. I jammed my thumb, like it happens usually. Yeah, I didn't think about it. Um, I didn't think about it on the rest of the fight. 10 rounds go by. I felt it every now and then, but it wasn't like a big deal. And then when my coach took my glove off after the fight, I saw that my thumb was turned to the right and then the bone was sticking out and I go oh shit.
Speaker 3:That was crazy, that was wow.
Speaker 2:So I was more worried about winning the fight than what happened to my thumb. So I saw it for a minute and I was like, okay, let me see the decision, let me see the decision, let me just send me, let me see the decision. And then when they read the decision, I won I still was excited and I was like what happened to my thumb? I looked at my coach. I was like I think I broke my thumb. I don't know what happened to my thumb coach and he was just like oh shit, I mean he didn't even know. He didn't even know, he's didn't even know.
Speaker 3:He was like what's going on with your thumb, I was like.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 3:Tell me that was one of the craziest things I've ever seen in boxing and I can only imagine the emotions because you just won your belt. You beat a tough, tough fighter and you got the decision because I was worried about that, as you were too in the hometown. We know what goes on there. Yeah, home the decision, because I was worried about that, as you were too in the hometown. We know what goes on there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, home cooking, yeah, and and now your thumb bone, your thumb has a boner and you're like it's crazy, yeah, it's, it's like an early halloween.
Speaker 3:Yeah right, we should. We should put that. We should put that on a shirt.
Speaker 2:Boner thumb people like, what are you talking about? My thumb in the picture?
Speaker 1:yeah, we'll start the convo you can make hella money with that yeah but that was crazy. But you know you are, so yo you don't want anything we don't want so tough though that is, that's that's like tough, like you should be the world toughest girl.
Speaker 3:Like yeah, like that is crazy, especially as like, like you know and like people don't understand how tough female fighters are and what a year for female boxing it's been. But there you are standing up there giggling, all happy, so happy about it your thumb is just hanging your whole thumb is off.
Speaker 2:I think because my more my mind was more registered into like did I win this? Did I do enough?
Speaker 1:like fuck my thumb.
Speaker 2:I don't fucking care about my thumb. I don't fucking care about my thumb, I want to win this. I want to win this, that's how my mind was.
Speaker 3:But that's like a real champion.
Speaker 1:Like I said, that's why you're a champion, because that's championship mindset right there, championship right now, and props to you for that, at the age you are too, that's up.
Speaker 2:You kind of said it like that. I'm just repeating All right there goes our profit on that shirt Just because earlier today literally my dad took me to celebrate this belt after what? Two and a half months? And he's like finally can I take you out Because I'm home like steady oh wow. And then we go out to our favorite brunch place and this guy goes how old are you? 21, 22? I'm like thank you 36.
Speaker 1:So watch out when you say hello, yeah, you got it, you got it, no problems.
Speaker 3:No, you're good, You're good.
Speaker 2:I've looked 30, since I was like 15, so it's all right, thank you. Thank you, that's you, but not me.
Speaker 3:But thank you. I was like in high school. I was like the beer guy, like I got invited to every party because I didn't get id. So it's good, help me out here I am.
Speaker 2:They're like you. Come in, we're not worried about you, yeah it was great.
Speaker 3:No id check, but going forward do you have a do you have a fight plan next or?
Speaker 2:so I haven't uh, announced it at all, announced this at all. So matron wants me to, or to get the wc world title belt like you know, I have the interim belt. Yeah, yeah so they want me to get the wc true title belt in february 7th in um mexico, where the girl is from.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that is the plan. As long as my thumb can hit a heavy bag in about a month, then I'll be good, it's still swollen.
Speaker 3:Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:It's still swollen, we just need it.
Speaker 2:Oh man, it's not that bad y'all yeah, y'all are acting like it's bad.
Speaker 3:That's good to me, you can move it. Yeah, that's good, it's thick Okay.
Speaker 1:Y'all are like triple. It has a thick thumb.
Speaker 2:I can turn some like.
Speaker 3:Do you have to go to physical therapy and stuff?
Speaker 2:Well, that's what I'm doing, but if I can turn in a pickle juice jar or whatever, if I can do that easily, then I'm good, which I have been doing for the past two weeks. So you guys are tripping, I'm good.
Speaker 1:Listen, I believe you. So you are like a true Southpaw right, that's not your dominant hand.
Speaker 2:Nope, nope, nope. Oh, so you don't. Nope, nope, Nope. Okay, so you right-handed. I'm a right-handed person, just like Shakur Stevens.
Speaker 1:Yep, I was going to ask you that. Yeah, shakur Me and him.
Speaker 2:Me and him. That's like my brother from the heart and we train at a J Prince's gym together. Yeah.
Speaker 3:So seriously open jars with my everything with my right hand but I'm saupal right?
Speaker 2:yeah, that's why my jab hand is strong.
Speaker 1:That's strong as oh that's good yep I was just gonna ask you that I'm like yeah, that I'm like yeah, sound just like shakur, yeah shakur, yeah, no, me and shakur.
Speaker 2:So oops, so I, uh, so I I.
Speaker 3:Your thumb is fat now your thumb keeps fat finger in the phone. I'm sorry. Sorry, that's my other fat finger it's that big ass thumb, it's jealous it's like all this all this right hand gets used.
Speaker 1:What about me? What about?
Speaker 2:me relax.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry you're good, you're good.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I can't control my other fingers, but yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 3:But no so.
Speaker 2:This is not you guys. Y'all are funny.
Speaker 1:Synergy's going wild, don't laugh at me. No, you're good, it's not me. You fit over here at the Spartan.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's y'all's fault. That's y'all's fault, that's y'all's fault for bringing me in on this podcast.
Speaker 1:Nah, we're good, you fit right in. Yeah, we take anyone.
Speaker 2:No but listen, I'm serious. Go ahead, go ahead. I'm a right-handed person but I fight southpaw, just like Shakur Stevenson. That's my fucking brother. And now I'm training out at Jay Prince's gym, just like himakur stevenson and that's my fucking brother and we.
Speaker 2:and now I'm training out at jay prince's gym, just like him awesome in the fifth ward area of houston yeah I actually just saw him the other day and I was asking him shakur, what are you doing for your physical therapy? He's like they're making me pick up shit, putting them on holes, grip shit, and I go fuck. All I'm doing is squeezing a ball, like am'm stretching my thumb. I'm like am I doing something wrong? But he's got a little more serious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I just got a fucking fat thumb. Yeah, it's all right.
Speaker 2:People might like that. In a way, I'm just saying no, I mean, there's a lot of weird people out there All I got to do is just keep doing my own physical therapy Stretching it Pickle jars. Pickle jars if you want. Squeezing an egg, mine's more of a simple injury. He has a more complex injury than I do, but what I'm saying is good to be around. That I mean me and him Made the team 2016 Olympics.
Speaker 2:I saw him's good to be around that I mean me and him made the team 2016 Olympics. Yep, we are. You know, I saw him grow up to be the silver medalist in Rio and then, you know, be the fucking champion that he is now. So it's just good to be a part of that.
Speaker 3:It's awesome. It's awesome to see like the Olympic team stick together and that one specifically is a little more close than the others, but it's good to see what. And that one specifically is a little more close than the others, but it's good to see. So you train in Texas full-time then.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah, I train in Houston, texas, full-time. This is where I'm from. This is where my team is from.
Speaker 3:I don't know why I'll probably be here until the end of my career.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't say probably, I mean my know.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. Yeah, I've been to Texas a few times. I actually was in San Antonio for a bit, a little bit, but yeah, new York is. I like the seasons.
Speaker 1:I went to Houston. I was messing with a scammer what scammer or stripper?
Speaker 3:I think both, I think he needs both scammer I got scammed.
Speaker 1:I ain't fucking with Houston. No more Wait. Is that the truth?
Speaker 2:I'm south of Houston, so if you come to Houston I'll show you the more pleasant scenery I live right on Galveston Bay. It's more calm, it's awesome.
Speaker 1:It was some good food out there.
Speaker 2:You don't have to live a Drake life
Speaker 1:and go to Treasures. Damn it Damn.
Speaker 2:Drake knows what I'm talking about. But what? But what?
Speaker 1:How was the Tokyo Olympics?
Speaker 2:So I don't know if y'all knew. So I wasn't team captain of the Tokyo Olympic team, I was team captain of the Rio team.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I got to go to Rio and see how Rio Olympics was without COVID and just how it was run right. So I competed in Tokyo, obviously, and I could see the difference. It was just way more closed off, more strict. All you could do was go to the arena, go to the training event or go to your room, and that was literally it.
Speaker 1:They didn't want you to go.
Speaker 2:Especially in Tokyo, they're very, very strict on that kind of stuff. So it didn't feel like Olympics for me, especially when I already had been to one. It felt more like a if you're going to call it a tournament, like a world champion tournament, but it just felt not Like I mean my family couldn't be there. My friends couldn't be, you know, it just didn't feel real.
Speaker 1:Like how you push through that, like I don't understand, like you're so closed off and then you can't do nothing. Like you can't do nothing, that was like fun, like nothing, that was like actually sightseeing, nothing, like you really just went out there to box and and since you're cool as shit and we're talking about the olympics, I didn't want to bring it up.
Speaker 3:I was scared, I didn't know how to. But you definitely be honest with me you definitely faced some adversity and it feels like there's always adversity in boxing in the olympics with the uh, the, the test, the test results, and you went. This is way back when tested every day?
Speaker 2:yeah, we got tested every day for covid. Yeah. Well, to be honest, it's like you're not supposed to look at the olympics as like a fun game or publicity stunt even though it is in a way because this is the, this is the moment where you get yourself out there and then you can start a career after it yeah but initially, you're not supposed to think about that and the coaches are to be like you know focus, focus on what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2:You go and train and you go to the arena and focus on the win. Don't think about the goal, think about your next win, which is true, which you should um so I'm going to be honest and since you're cool, hold on all right all right with kobe.
Speaker 2:I remember my first fight. I fought and I was like, why can't I hear my corner so clearly? And I forgot. I was like, oh, the arena is empty, no one's's in here. I'm fighting Russia by myself with my fucking corner in her corner. So that's literally how it was.
Speaker 3:Was. It was training like where was easier to train? How do you train in Tokyo during COVID?
Speaker 2:I mean, they had a gym section off for the boxing. That was just for us, nobody else. So it was just us and I was like okay. So exclusive Again. Everything was exclusive, nobody there. Exclusive Just us, nobody there.
Speaker 3:Alone, and now I know you had some like real beef with USADA as well, correct.
Speaker 2:In what way are you talking about? There was some drama there. Right, there was a little. Uh, I mean, yeah, I had issues there. I was. Are you talking about the guy that I was kind of dating?
Speaker 3:I maybe I don't know how to yes, yes, that's right I was.
Speaker 2:I was kind of dating this gentleman that was a wrestler and unfortunately I didn. I didn't know what he was taking.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Like a WWE wrestler.
Speaker 2:Unfortunately, he got my system because I was dating him and yeah, it almost screwed up my Olympic career. Yeah, and that's what it is, and I hope everybody out there knows to use protection with my mistake.
Speaker 3:That's right, but that's what it is. It is what it is. No love without the glove. That's another shirt you could get, right, right.
Speaker 2:I made the mistake for everybody else. I'd rather make the mistake than anybody else get caught for being stupid and not covering it up.
Speaker 1:Wrap it up, right, what'd they say? What'd?
Speaker 2:they say for you guys, wrap it up.
Speaker 1:St it up. Right, what they say, what they say for you guys? Wrap it up, strap it up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you living on the wild side, I was strapping up everything on covid, strap it up everything on covid ain't no way, no, but you beat it. You beat it and like it was a little bit of controversy, but you beat it. You beat it and like it was a little bit of controversy but you got cleared.
Speaker 2:I mean because I proved it Like, luckily he was a man and came out and told him what he took and took the test to show that it was in his system and not mine. It was like I'm not going to lie, guys. That was hell for me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can only imagine.
Speaker 2:I can only imagine I was like this motherfucker just ruined my whole career, my whole dream in boxing and if he didn't be honest with the public, then I just would have been done, and luckily he was honest that's awesome.
Speaker 3:I gotta give him props for that that's it though. Nothing else, nothing else.
Speaker 2:That was it he cheated and I was a dumbass, and let him spread that into me In ways that I don't know.
Speaker 1:If we should say she is perfect for this.
Speaker 2:We don't gotta go into detail.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'll be honest, I'm not, I'm going to let you know,
Speaker 2:that it can happen.
Speaker 3:Wrap up, that's what I'm saying Wrap up, strap up. What's the thing that's?
Speaker 2:what I'm trying to help you guys with.
Speaker 3:You got to go give speeches at schools.
Speaker 2:Don't be lenient, yeah no.
Speaker 3:Even though it does feel different, but anyway, moving forward, hold on, I can't hear y'all.
Speaker 2:Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1:I can't hear y'all All right, oh shit.
Speaker 3:Okay, are we good? You can hear us, we're good. Hello, hello.
Speaker 1:Very light, but I can hear y'all very loud okay, still or no, I can see, well, I can see the liquor. I can't see your faces, that's, that's. But yeah, there you go there we go.
Speaker 3:Hey, I don't know what's going on, but it's, it's recording. Oh she probably gotta turn her camera sideways yeah, maybe if you turn it sideways, like your phone what the fuck?
Speaker 2:I don't know what you're talking about. Turn sideways.
Speaker 1:Never mind, we're just going to go.
Speaker 3:I ain't a fucking technician, Like there's no way, don't worry about it, but you are a technician in the ring.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about me and technician in the ring, not fucking liquor-faced what.
Speaker 3:Yo, so it is a great year for women's boxing. Your good friend Michaela Meyer, she did her thing, mayor. Mayor, I told you I'm bad with names. Maybe that's why Mikayla is so mean to me. I say her name.
Speaker 2:Probably. I mean no, no, don't take it personal. She's a bitch to everyone. Yo is she.
Speaker 1:Oh, what you love me.
Speaker 2:If she was nice to me, I'd be like, dude, you don't love me. If she was a bitch to me, I'd be like, oh, you love me.
Speaker 3:So I've met her a few times. So one time she did an event and this is like a long time ago in New York City. At where was that? It was like at Macy's or something right.
Speaker 1:With the picture on the wall right here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was like a cancer event and I was like uh-huh did it.
Speaker 2:It wasn't a dicks, it was not at dicks and there were no dicks in her face at the time. It was a cancer. It was a cancer story. You might see her face plastered all.
Speaker 3:Oh my goodness, this is live, we are. We are recording. Jenny is wow jesus, anyway, I was so so I went there she was. I oh, what does a fan got to do to meet you? She was like, I guess, show up to Macy's or wherever it was. So I showed up there. But it was not at Dick's, so I showed up there. Right, I was like drunk from the night before.
Speaker 2:Show to Dick's. You'll find her face all over the place. I'm going to tag her. I'm trying to help her fans out. That's all I'm saying so.
Speaker 3:why does it seem like, though, now that we're on to her? Why does it seem like she's not well-liked amongst the other female boxers?
Speaker 2:I mean no, I don't want to say that, I mean I love her to death. She's my best friend, she knows the in and outs of me. She's helped me overcome obstacles, mountains. Like she's my number one, right she's, I call her my first mate, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah no, but that's just her personality, um okay that's her personality, that's that's how she knows to show love is be aggressive, and to show her care through aggressiveness everyone says like she's a bitch all around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's just how she is, that's her personality, but it's not who she is in the true person no, no don't get that twisted when you meet her. If she's a bitch, she would be like oh, I think she likes me. If she's nice to you, then like.
Speaker 3:This bitch is being fake as fuck I think, I think, I think she just thinks I'm like creepy, because every time she sees me I'm blasted drunk and we go, hey, hey, exactly, yeah she just looks at me like this fucking. Why do I keep seeing this fucking guy over and over again? Who the fuck is?
Speaker 2:this guy. Just let her know, be like yo, it's me cap. Just say it's your captain's friend. She'd be like oh okay, hi, I'm telling you. If you say those words, she'd be like oh okay, hi, I'm telling you.
Speaker 3:If you say those words, she'd be like oh, I know you, I've been to like a bunch of her fights, even though she doesn't know you.
Speaker 2:But if you, say captain's friend, she'd be like, oh, you're my captain's friend, I know you.
Speaker 3:So, speaking of captain's friend, where's this pirate thing?
Speaker 2:Like you're a self-proclaimed pirate, so how'd that, how'd that come about? 2016 olympic trials or 2016 olympic team? Right? Yeah. When coach billy came on as the head coach from ireland right? Nobody understood the fuck what he was saying. No, nobody understood his excuse, my language. I'm sorry, I'm a pirate. Nobody understood what he was trying to teach us and all that.
Speaker 2:And I'm a very understandable person and I like to give everybody the benefit of the doubt right, and I guess I wanted to relate to him so much because he just came into the United States and tried to change the USA boxing program and wanted to make us great right and I believed in all that and I just wanted to support that right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So when he taught us the little warm-up rituals, right, I just came, I just like focused right into it and understood it. Where everybody else was lost, like Clarissa and Shakur were like what the fuck are we doing I was like just I was like guys just follow me. I got this. I got this Right.
Speaker 1:I was like so do you? I do the the go in a circle, kick your foot up and then Right, right, right. Oh yeah, little like, little like. Yeah, I did that right and I was like just follow me.
Speaker 2:And then I started like saying surrender the booty. Uh, I started saying like pirate, right. I started like, yeah, like fire the cannon, and everyone's like okay, we know what this bitch is saying, because it makes no sense, but it's ridiculous. And we know what she's saying, right, we understand it more than the fucking Irish coach. So we understand what she's saying. We're going to do what she is, that's awesome so that's kind of how I started. My pirate brand was being the mascot or head coach of the….
Speaker 3:You were the captain of the ship.
Speaker 2:The captain of the ship. Yeah, sorry, the captain of the ship. The captain of the team. The captain of the ritual, the captain of the warm-ups, so everybody listened to me because they were like well, at least she understands what's going on. Let's just listen to her, even though I was making up these pirate terms just to make it fun, and they liked it right. They're like all right, let's do the similar to the booty. Let's fire the cannon.
Speaker 2:You know, they like that. And and then we started having multi-nation training camps, like from other countries the uk, australia, um, japan, canada, everybody coming in for these multi-nation training camps and I would still do these commands as pirate terms and everybody was like what is she talking about? Surrender to the booty? What the hell is she talking about?
Speaker 2:And my teammates would be like just, it's part of the fucking warm-up, just go with it. And they were like oh, she's a fucking pirate, and that's how. So if you talk to sky nicholson yeah, oh, she's nice you'd be like oh yeah, that's my pirate. Talk to her, I promise you she'll be like oh that's the pirate and that's how I became, or that's how I made my brand and that's how I became the pirate of the boxing world and made myself captain.
Speaker 3:Well, as a pirate would they travel all over and they steal gold. And you're going to Mexico to steal some gold. That's insane to me, because, coming from what?
Speaker 1:you experienced. I like how you did that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm witty, I'm very witty.
Speaker 1:But he's right. I like how he did that. That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 3:And you did that already in California. You're willing to take that chance again, going to Mexico, the lines and where who knows what the hell is going to go on over there. I mean, it's basically Cali on steroids, you know what I'm saying and you're going to face someone for a belt again and I can't thank you enough. You're a riot. That's awesome. And I have a few more questions before we close out because I'm going to let you go. Oprah Winfrey did you meet her?
Speaker 2:Unfortunately, because of COVID, I didn't get to meet her, but if. Covid didn't happen, I would have. You're talking about the me. You can't see.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah yeah, which was awesome, and that's crazy what you you've went through um, did you watch that? Yeah, I did, I watched it it was insane why?
Speaker 1:why it's good like that face. What's the face?
Speaker 2:I obviously did that and put my vulnerable self out there to show people what I go through. But when I ask people, they saw it. And then I think about what they saw and I'm like oh, but so I did it on purpose, right?
Speaker 3:but you, you and michaela, like years ago, used to like fight and you would be doing your like rituals and I knew I'm like, oh, she, she suffers from ocd and michaela would be like making fun. It was like friendly. So then when I saw it, wasn't it? It wasn't a surprise to me. I was just like oh, wow, but I didn't know it was to that extent.
Speaker 2:Well, no, and I give. That's why I love Michaela, because I give her props to like she didn't understand what was going on at the beginning.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:She had to understand what was going on. And then she would challenge me by fucking being in my face all the time, be like what you fucking doing, stop, you know it was like a challenge and a good challenge and then, it was a good realization of keeping me accountable for my rituals.
Speaker 2:Right like I roomed with her and then I'd wake up at six in the morning going to the bathroom and she was sneaking be like, what are you doing? Washing your hands? Like I'm just fucking trying to take a piss. Bro, for what? I'm going to take a piss for a minute.
Speaker 1:But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It was the accountability Like, okay, just making sure I'm not in the bathroom washing my hands for 30 minutes.
Speaker 1:You know, is it true that you used to clean your shoes like 150 times or something like that?
Speaker 2:Yes, like 100, 150 times or something. I would, I, yes, I would. I still do this. Well, it's not all my shoes. I clean the bottom of my shoes like clorox, and then I I put them in the dish in the washing machine to clean.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's actually though like like yo, you, you, you like open, so we box or whatever, right, and your gyms are nasty. So, like you got, I never cleaned my boxing shoes and I'm like why the hell are these turning weird colors?
Speaker 1:I'm like what is going on when you buy new ones?
Speaker 3:yeah, in a sense it's. It's. Obviously you know you, you're suffering when you're doing it, but like it's, it's like wow. It made me think I'm like I gotta clean these fucking shoes.
Speaker 2:I never do, yeah, yeah, my mind thinks about everything my shoe touches, Like from the gym, from when I walk out from the car I sit in and drive, Unless I take them off. If I wear them just to the gym and they take them off, it's different. But my mind, that's how my mind thinks. It thinks about everything it touches from the gym, from the outside of the gym, from the car, from the store, Whatever I go into. That's how my mind thinks that. Why I have excessive compulsive disorder?
Speaker 2:because it thinks that way so that means covid was the worst for you like that had to be crazy for you it was worse in the sense that everybody was buying latex gloves, clorox people was wowing because my dad, I was going I was going all over. I I think I remember one day and went to fucking like seven walgreens to find latex gloves because all of them were out and I needed them, like I was feeding for them, which is kind of crazy, but that's what ocb is kind of like a addiction in a way and I was like I need my gloves or I can't clean.
Speaker 2:I can't clean with my bare hands, I need to find gloves. And if the walgreens I never like I need my gloves or I can't clean, I can't clean with my bare hands, I need to find gloves. And if the walgreens I never hear, I'm gonna go walgreens fucking 25 miles up north or 25 miles south, I need my gloves.
Speaker 3:So it's like, yes, it's, it's I know it's almost like a fiend I know in the in the special you um, you said you never bring it into the gym with you, except for that one moment in time where you did. But in a sense like being that much of like a perfectionist with like cleaning, does it ever go into like your training, like throw in the same combo until you get it perfect?
Speaker 2:Or is it just strictly coach, but like if my coach is making me do like, uh like um a cardio ritual like lunges or punches on the bag, I'll be like I'm not finished, it didn't feel right. Or if I'm doing lunges, I'm like I can do an extra one to feel right. Or if I'm doing anything on the ground, necessarily I have to put like a towel down so so that's different. But that's not like a big thing.
Speaker 2:But, it's more of like no coach, it didn't feel right, let me do it again. It didn't feel right, let me do it again, but I don't think that's a bad thing.
Speaker 3:No, no, I was going to say it's kind of like striving for perfection Obviously, again you're suffering. Striving for perfection obviously again you're suffering. So I don't wish this on anybody, but in boxing it's kind of like you need to be a perfectionist. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It's like it's like a bad curse, because in my profession is great, but when it comes to real life, yeah and I want to get out of the bathroom for washing my hands. But I'm stuck there for 30 minutes washing my hands like bro, get the fuck out. You've washed your hands for 30 minutes, it's's not that big a deal, but in my mind I'm like I can't. It's not clean enough.
Speaker 3:Power to you. Though You're you're, you're a fricking champion in the ring and out of the ring for for coming forward and talking about it, cause there's millions of people that suffer from that that don't talk about it, and that's accomplishments you are one of the realest I've ever heard.
Speaker 1:You like.
Speaker 2:You keep everything the only reason why I did that because when I was young when it because I was very young when I was diagnosed and I went to inpatient when I was very young in middle school yeah I didn't even understand it and I was like pissed at my parents for sending me into an inpatient treatment for psychos, right, I was like you're sending me into a fucking clinic with fucking crazy people like sorry, sorry, sorry for my cursing.
Speaker 3:It's okay, but that's how I felt like I was.
Speaker 2:Like I was so mad at my parents and I was like how could you do this to me? Like I'm your daughter, you're sending me into a fucking psych ward. But now, now that I'm older, I understand it more and I'm like okay, I get it. I needed the help.
Speaker 3:Isn't that weird when you get older? Like I remember when I was in high school, I'm like what do you mean? I'm 15. I could go get drunk at the bars. Who cares my?
Speaker 2:dad would beat my ass. You don't know me, yeah.
Speaker 3:You don't know the fuck what I'm about. Like, yeah, now I'm 30-something and I'm like, damn, I would never. If I saw a 15-year-old in a bar, I'd kick him out. Like what the fuck.
Speaker 2:Right right.
Speaker 1:I don't know how people like their teens, look at weed.
Speaker 2:When I was hard and my parents put me in inpatient treatment, I was like my parents are in prison. I felt like I was in jail.
Speaker 1:I was like my parents hate me.
Speaker 2:They're putting me in prison. This is fucking ridiculous. My freedom's taken away. You know like I was thinking all the things you think when you're a teenager and you think your freedom's taken away from you, right, and I hated everybody. I even hated my best friends, my best friends. I would write notes to them and they wouldn't write back. I hated everybody at that moment. I did. It was sad, but then I look back at it now I'm like okay, I see why yeah, it's funny when you get older.
Speaker 2:But but you're only in your 20s, so you're good well, I'm in my 30s now but, that was when I was in my teenage years, that's what I'm saying like and it was like a hard lesson to learn, but I feel like if I didn't go through those lessons, I wouldn't be a world champion that I am today.
Speaker 1:Honestly, and no, but you were always an athlete. You was always an athlete, right? So?
Speaker 2:I was an athlete, yeah so what, what other? You can ask my mom when I was in diapers I would go jump in the lake and she's like what the fuck are you doing? You're jumping in the lake, and I was in diapers, I didn't care, I just wanted to get in the water, right? She's like oh, I guess you know how to swim now.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying oh, like you didn't know how to swim, you just jumped like a fish, a pirate.
Speaker 2:When I, when I make my brand the pirate, I'm a pirate like I like love the water. I jumped in there from when I was in diapers and didn't even know what I was doing. I just I got a, I got a question for you.
Speaker 1:So if you wasn't a boxer, what, what sport would you excel in? Because I know you played a couple of sports and you went well. If, if water was the the.
Speaker 2:Olympics and I already thought it was because I was a dumbass talk to the head boxing guy of the Olympic Committee at the USA Olympic Committee and I was like, oh you know, if I was going to do boxing I'd do water skiing. He looks at me and goes you know, water skiing isn't an Olympic sport. I go shut the fuck up, ron. I know it is like I was like I know it is. You know it's not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ron, that's the thing, ron ron is ron's gonna be like I told you, but then I realized that it wasn't and then I was like when did?
Speaker 3:never mind when did you get into boxing? At what age?
Speaker 2:In college I was 21 years old. Lsu I went to LSU as a walk on the cross country and track team right. Freshman year I got kicked off.
Speaker 3:Why.
Speaker 2:For a prank I did Like no big deal.
Speaker 3:What was the prank? No big deal.
Speaker 1:So, the athletes live in the West Campus apartments, right, are y'all listening? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the athletes live in the West Campus apartments, right, are y'all listening? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:The athletes live in the West Campus apartments and it was like a holiday right?
Speaker 2:So it was like a Sunday, monday, we were off, I don't know, and we were just like hanging out at one of my friend's apartments at the West Campus apartments, just, you know, getting a little drunk, having fun. You know, getting a little drunk, having fun, and the next day we had a meeting and I didn't realize I left my um phone charger at his place. So when I went over there to get it, because I had to be at this meeting for my team, he was at the uh dorms right across the street and was like hey, you know, when I called I was like I needed it because I need to be at this meeting now. And he goes well, I'm not going to be back there in like three hours and hung up on me and I got mad and said I'm gonna break down his door and his roommate spent me a hundred bucks that I couldn't break down his door and I know it's a long story, sorry and then I was like fuck it, I'm gonna break down his door.
Speaker 2:I broke down his door, got the $100. He ended up showing up like a minute later calling the cops.
Speaker 3:Jesus, you are a pirate, hey.
Speaker 1:I told them the situation.
Speaker 2:I still got arrested for destruction of school property. Blah blah blah Got kicked off the team.
Speaker 3:That's some pirate shit. If I heard it I was gonna say it's like not exciting.
Speaker 2:All I did was break down a fucking door. That's all I did yeah, that was still.
Speaker 3:Still, though that's still. You got, did you get paid?
Speaker 2:no, I lost money. I had to fucking pay for that I had to pay the door I had to pay the door.
Speaker 2:I had to pay the lawyer. I had to pay the school. I had to pay. So my parents sold my dirt bike to pay for all that. Oh you had a dirt bike. Oh, you had a dirt bike. Yes, I got home, I go, mom, where's my dirt bike? She goes. Well, we sold that to pay off your lawyer and your fucking mischief about breaking the door and lying about stealing the X. You know breaking the door and I was like, oh, Yo ain't no way. Well, there goes my dirt. Bike yeah.
Speaker 1:Did you buy one after that?
Speaker 2:No, I got that dirt bike for Christmas one year.
Speaker 1:Nice, so you never rode after that you.
Speaker 2:You was like fuck this it's kind of uh, I don't know, is it uh?
Speaker 3:we can't see you again omen.
Speaker 2:I know what happened here I think you pressed something.
Speaker 3:Oh, here we go, all right it was a bad omen.
Speaker 2:It was like my mom sold the bike. I was like I'm going to try to get back again.
Speaker 3:So you were in college at the time when you started boxing.
Speaker 2:Freshman college yep.
Speaker 3:Okay, and what gym was that?
Speaker 1:What made you go into boxing?
Speaker 2:I met a professional boxer on the way I ended up dating him in college Okay, what was his name? On the way I ended up dating him in college, okay, but I'm.
Speaker 3:What was his name?
Speaker 2:I took it more serious than he did, and then he kind of fell off. Do you really want to know his name?
Speaker 3:Kind of if I heard of him.
Speaker 2:John Revis. You wouldn't have heard his name. He fell off very soon in the game.
Speaker 3:He got rid of the pirate captain. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2:I'll give him props for introducing me to the sport, but he fell off really quickly after that.
Speaker 1:Imagine what he'd think of you now. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Good question. Will you ask him for me?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to find him, I'm going to find him. Find him on Facebook. All right, we got you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I wonder, because I'm gonna find out. I'm gonna find him on Facebook, I wonder.
Speaker 3:She's probably like damn, this bitch went way far than I thought.
Speaker 2:He just thought I wanted to get a workout in Nope, I was serious.
Speaker 1:I interviewed your ex. Look at her now.
Speaker 2:I'd like for you to find where he is.
Speaker 1:He's probably lost.
Speaker 2:Way lost. You missed out, he's lost, way lost.
Speaker 1:You missed out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he missed out big time.
Speaker 3:So I just tried to look him up on BoxRec and the only thing that came up was John Red Tomahawk.
Speaker 2:I don't think that was him, no, john Revish.
Speaker 3:Wait Revish.
Speaker 2:Revish R-E-V-I-S-H.
Speaker 1:I don't even know if he's on.
Speaker 2:Box Truck anymore. He's been out of the game so long.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you guys, it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 2:All that matters is that.
Speaker 1:Sorry, moving on. Literally it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 3:It's all good.
Speaker 1:What did he?
Speaker 2:look like no picture you probably won't find it it doesn't even matter, it's all good. What do you look like? No picture, no picture, no picture.
Speaker 1:You probably won't find it it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 3:What I'm saying doesn't even matter Look all you want bro.
Speaker 2:We're moving on. We're moving on, look all you want.
Speaker 3:We're moving on, we're moving on.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 3:So, we'll wrap it up with that and no more speaking of John.
Speaker 2:Revis. He missed his opportunity. I mean I don't want to, I mean never mind, Never mind. I got to come across for introducing me to the sport. That's all I got to say.
Speaker 3:That's good, that's good. So what about now, though? Speaking of that, are you single?
Speaker 2:Are you out there? I always, yeah. All my dedication has been to boxing getting this world title and I finally fucking got it, so it's worth it, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it's got to be hard. So yeah, I'm single.
Speaker 2:Single and mingling.
Speaker 3:No, I'm just single, that's all right Now, I know you We'll close out with this because once we get off with you, we're going to talk about it. I know your friends. Like you said with oh, you went away again. There you are With Regis Progray. Did you watch last night?
Speaker 2:I did what is going on with that guy man. I love Regis. He's like my brother. I love him to death. Honestly, I think he wasn't very patient. He was trying too hard and he wanted to get himself back after the loss with Devin. Yeah, Yep.
Speaker 2:And I think that was all his mental stable was like. I got to get back my loss from Devin and I think I mean he could have totally beat Jack. I think he could have and he almost started to from the beginning but I think he obviously was just not patient enough and was trying a little too hard and he totally could have beat Jack. That's the heart, that's what breaks my heart.
Speaker 3:To me it looked like towards the end he was like all right, I've had enough of this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:You could kind of see, and he kept it real at the end I'll give him that. He's like I don't think this is for me anymore, whatever. Yeah, I don't like that. He's going to do bare knuckle though. He's got kids and stuff.
Speaker 2:That bare knuckle stuff is crazy it's all about the money right now. For him, though, true, true, true. So I've been offered the bare knuckle league before too, when I didn't get. When I wasn't getting a world title fight opportunity. I got an offer from them, but it wasn't enough money. I'm like, okay then no, I'm not gonna put myself in that situation if I'm gonna get beat with bare knuckles and give me more money.
Speaker 1:So that makes no, yeah, it makes no sense yo their faces.
Speaker 3:Like you know, like boxing's a rough and rugged sport anyway, but the bare knuckle dudes bare. When you see their faces I'm like, oh, who is that?
Speaker 1:and getting paid less, yeah what type? Of business move. Is that yeah?
Speaker 2:it's a different game, like austin trot, right he was my coach for the team combat league for the houston hitman and I've known Austin for a while and I love that guy and he's always and he was the reason why I was contemplating on going to the Bare Knuckle League Because he was in there and telling me about it. But you know, I mean, if the money's not right, I ain't going to risk myself in that. Because, it's a total different game. You're not wearing any gloves. Eight ounce gloves is that's part enough less enough than nothing, right?
Speaker 2:so, um, and that's why I understand why we just said that, because he's just on the money he's gonna make any more money when he goes any kind of other fights in the program. He'd probably make more money in the bare knuckle league. So that's probably why he's saying that and I get it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, you got to pay the bills.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It is what it is and that's your guy's burden.
Speaker 2:And if they aren't going to give him the opportunity, the right money, then he's not going to do it. He's smart, he ain't dumb.
Speaker 3:Nah, not at all.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:I was just. I really wanted him to win that, because I like Regis, I know I did too.
Speaker 2:Trust me.
Speaker 3:This Jack Catterall guy is no offense to Eddie Hearn. Yeah, I don't see it. I mean, he's been in a lot of fights, he's doing the right things.
Speaker 2:You can't hate him, you can never hate, anybody for doing where they are. But trust me, I was thinking Regis was going to come back on this too. Trust me, that's my brother. I love him like a brother I do. We've been. I've known Regis when he was still living in Louisiana. We were in the trenches and competing and training with each other before he got big, before I was trying to go to the Olympics. I've known him for that long. And I love him to death and yeah.
Speaker 1:I love his story, though. Yeah, he didn't come from nothing. He's a real dude.
Speaker 2:He's a real dude, he speaks how he wants, and it's just.
Speaker 3:I mean I wanted it so bad for him that it hurts me but it is what it is and you know what he kept it real. He kept it real at the end, which I can respect, so that that's good on him. All right, I think that's all we got. Yo been a pleasure. Um, you're great, you're funny, you're awesome.
Speaker 2:I had fun with you guys. Next time I'll.
Speaker 3:Next time you guys speak to me, I'll be on the boat, but it's too late, so all right I'm serious though you think I'm joking, I'm serious, but whatever all right, we got you, we're here, we're here for it anytime.
Speaker 1:Oh, we will see you yo, you heard.
Speaker 2:You heard us cheering, though, at michaela's fight oh, I did, I saw you, I saw you, I saw you, I saw you. Trust, remember, I was like oh, I know you yeah, yeah, but so I'm gonna give you a little sneak peek into the future.
Speaker 2:Okay, uh, matt room wants me to fight february 7th in mexico for the girl who owns, who actually holds the wc world title belt, like the official wc title. So and I'm game to it. As long as my thumb is good in about a month and a half, then I'm game to it. But it all depends on recovery right?
Speaker 3:Well, you keep messing with them.
Speaker 2:Pickle jars yeah, let us know If that is up to plan, then you guys will see me in Mexico fighting for the WC belt.
Speaker 3:Maybe we take a little trip to Mexico? Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1:I got my passport. I have my passport. And you're going to hear us?
Speaker 3:I don't know Me drunk in Mexico does not sound good.
Speaker 1:It don't sound too good. It don't sound too good, especially if you beat her ass. Yeah, true, true, especially if you beat her ass, that's not bad. That's not a bad idea. A little mini vacay. It depends when it is. I just said I'm throwing it out there.
Speaker 3:February a little winter Winter vacay, maybe To watch a couple of months I'm still got a hill.
Speaker 2:You got time to think about it.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. It's a little bit of time, as long as it's at the right month.
Speaker 3:I think we can definitely make it. We go to Mexico and watch an American pirate take some gold from Mexico. There we go. That's what I want. Thank you, that'd be crazy. That's all I ask, ginny, been a pleasure Been a pleasure.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much. Appreciate you.
Speaker 3:Thank you for everything. Hey, we'll have you on again. All right, guys, and we'll see you around. Man, it was fun. Keep fighting, shout out to you. You're mentally strong. Everything you're doing is great. You are a world champion. Maybe we'll see you in Mexico.
Speaker 2:In Mexico. I love you guys. Bye, all right.
Speaker 3:Take care, arr Nice R, we got an R. Bye y'all, bye y'all, bye, bye, oh shit.